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Re: Wyman & Taylor Confirmed for 02 shows - Offici
Reply #100 - Nov 27^th, 2012 at 12:24am

The Wick wrote on Nov 26^th, 2012 at 11:40pm:

Pdog wrote on Nov 26^th, 2012 at 7:15pm:

Brian jones death, Taylor joining leaving, ronnie joining, Wyman leaving... none of these ruined the sales, very true... but I listen to the music, live shows and studio albums. I really hear a huge difference from Bill, especially when the band rebounded in the late 70's... His playing on some Girls is awesome, and that record wouldn't be the same without him. I don't listen to music and decide how much I like it, based on how much it sold or I hope it sells... same with a concert... People don't care about anyone in the band outside of Jagger more the most part if you take those who follow pop culture and entertainment news... These same folks don't get hard ons and dance around the house listening to Midnight Rambler... I'm just sayin'!!!

Beautifully said. I love Darryl but Wyman is in the DNA of the band and these guys. The band's sound was different with him in it and he was, as Don Was said, underrated genius. I don't care about how much things sell but if they really wanted to sell stuff they would put him on a ship, get Mick Taylor on board, and then people would see ticket sales go through the roof.

He is part of the DNA and to see him back onboard is most satisfying but increasing the take of treasure by our favorite privateers couldnt be much larger with his or MTs precense at any port of call...........

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The Wick Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 1,066	Re: Wyman & Taylor Confirmed for 02 shows - Offici Reply #101 - Nov 27^th, 2012 at 1:36am Maybe not through the roof, but I'm sure they will improve. By how much, I think is hard to tell because the shows will be better and there will be a bigger buzz around the shows and the tour.
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Re: Wyman & Taylor Confirmed for 02 shows - Offici
Reply #102 - Nov 27^th, 2012 at 6:32am

Pdog wrote on Nov 26^th, 2012 at 7:15pm:

Steel Wheels wrote on Nov 26^th, 2012 at 6:32pm:

That's fine. I don't want to highjack the thread, but show me one website, a messageboard thread, articles, etc. that pine for Bill Wyman. His leaving didn't effect record sales, ticket sales, or anything since he left. Nobody is raving about Bill's appearance the way they are for Taylor's - and Bill is one of the original members. When Voodoo Lounge, Bridges, and Bigger Bang were released nobody said "I wish Bill was on this album." People don't turn down the chance to see the Stones because of Bill not being in the band. Look at the view counts for dedicated Bill threads over the years. People really don't care outside of die hards.

With that said, the US fans and the world wide pay per view customers deserve to see Bill. He's not doing anything that he can't cancel or postpone. He's a musician and he needs to play at all the gigs.

Brian jones death, Taylor joining leaving, ronnie joining, Wyman leaving... none of these ruined the sales, very true... but I listen to the music, live shows and studio albums. I really hear a huge difference from Bill, especially when the band rebounded in the late 70's... His playing on some Girls is awesome, and that record wouldn't be the same without him. I don't listen to music and decide how much I like it, based on how much it sold or I hope it sells... same with a concert... People don't care about anyone in the band outside of Jagger more the most part if you take those who follow pop culture and entertainment news... These same folks don't get hard ons and dance around the house listening to Midnight Rambler... I'm just sayin'!!!

I guess my point wasn't made clearly enough. Nobody was missing Bill until this year. Nobody missed him on records at all. He needs to show up at all the US shows. If he can fly to the US and do an east coast book tour and fan greet for his books that don't sell, then he can show up and do the shows.

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Re: Wyman & Taylor Confirmed for 02 shows - Offici
Reply #104 - Nov 27^th, 2012 at 8:13am

Steel Wheels wrote on Nov 27^th, 2012 at 6:32am:

Pdog wrote on Nov 26^th, 2012 at 7:15pm:

Steel Wheels wrote on Nov 26^th, 2012 at 6:32pm:

That's fine. I don't want to highjack the thread, but show me one website, a messageboard thread, articles, etc. that pine for Bill Wyman. His leaving didn't effect record sales, ticket sales, or anything since he left. Nobody is raving about Bill's appearance the way they are for Taylor's - and Bill is one of the original members. When Voodoo Lounge, Bridges, and Bigger Bang were released nobody said "I wish Bill was on this album." People don't turn down the chance to see the Stones because of Bill not being in the band. Look at the view counts for dedicated Bill threads over the years. People really don't care outside of die hards.

With that said, the US fans and the world wide pay per view customers deserve to see Bill. He's not doing anything that he can't cancel or postpone. He's a musician and he needs to play at all the gigs.

Brian jones death, Taylor joining leaving, ronnie joining, Wyman leaving... none of these ruined the sales, very true... but I listen to the music, live shows and studio albums. I really hear a huge difference from Bill, especially when the band rebounded in the late 70's... His playing on some Girls is awesome, and that record wouldn't be the same without him. I don't listen to music and decide how much I like it, based on how much it sold or I hope it sells... same with a concert... People don't care about anyone in the band outside of Jagger more the most part if you take those who follow pop culture and entertainment news... These same folks don't get hard ons and dance around the house listening to Midnight Rambler... I'm just sayin'!!!

I guess my point wasn't made clearly enough. Nobody was missing Bill until this year. Nobody missed him on records at all. He needs to show up at all the US shows. If he can fly to the US and do an east coast book tour and fan greet for his books that don't sell, then he can show up and do the shows.

HE DID FLY OVER IN 2001 AND WHEN 9/11 HAPPENED,THAT WAS THE FINAL STRAW FOR HIM.
I PERSONALLY HAVE MISSED HIS PLAYING AND BEING IN THE BAND.IT'S NOT BEEN THE SAME (TO ME) SINCE HE QUIT.
SW,WHY ALL THE BILL BASHING?

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Re: Wyman & Taylor Confirmed for 02 shows - Offici
Reply #105 - Nov 27^th, 2012 at 11:27am

I'm not bashing Bill at all. I am calling for him to do the US shows.

I am suspect of the sudden interest in Bill that I see all over the internet outside of Rocks Off/Shidoobee/IORR. Nobody seemed to really care about him for years and years. Even on Rocks Off - look at the amount of threads started for Bill, Bill related projects, tours (the one about his tour with the Supremes member didn't even get a response) - and birthday threads for him that don't exist.

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Re: Wyman & Taylor Confirmed for 02 shows - Offici
Reply #108 - Nov 28^th, 2012 at 11:36am

Mel Belli wrote on Nov 28^th, 2012 at 10:03am:

Keith was not pissed. Both he and Ronnie hung by the drum riser in order to give MT the spotlight. That was the whole point of the invitation.

Right. Keith seemed fine and more focused than he has been in a while on playing. Taylor was enjoying his moment and deserved it.

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