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Re: The Rolling Stones in London & Newark - Offici
Reply #150 - Oct 16^th, 2012 at 9:44am

Maybe I missed it...but has there been an official sponsor for these shows??

A friend who works in marketing told me Chanel no. 5...but she is a funny one and knows how to yank me whn it
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Will we see Mick do this next week:

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Re: The Rolling Stones in London & Newark - Offici
Reply #152 - Oct 16^th, 2012 at 9:49am

Gazza wrote on Oct 16^th, 2012 at 9:31am:

Probably similar arrangemen to the Amex one, ie the cream of the worst value seats for the price category.

You'll rarely get much quality and value for money wise in a free pre sale.

So you reckon there'll still be band 1 / band 2 tickets (definitely my limit, anyway) left by the general sale on Friday? Even after the wave of pre-sales is through?

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Re: The Rolling Stones in London & Newark - Offici
Reply #155 - Oct 16^th, 2012 at 11:14am

Edith Grove wrote on Oct 16^th, 2012 at 10:31am:

Paranoid Android wrote on Oct 16^th, 2012 at 9:44am:

Maybe I missed it...but has there been an official sponsor for these shows??

I saw an article this morning claiming the Stones have "paired up" with the World Wrestling Federation for these shows.

I think it was one of those Examiner columns. Oh no! not you again

Actually, WWE Productions working with touring bands on arena shows is quite common. They are tremendous with lighting, fireworks etc

Even smaller acts compared to Stones and U2 like Widespread Panic and Phish use WWE for staging, effects etc.

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Reply #156 - Oct 16^th, 2012 at 11:17am

Paranoid Android wrote on Oct 16^th, 2012 at 9:44am:

Maybe I missed it...but has there been an official sponsor for these shows??

A friend who works in marketing told me Chanel no. 5...but she is a funny one and knows how to yank me whn it
comes to the Stones...

Will we see Mick do this next week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mGs4CjeJiJQ

Ask Richard Branson, he is the promoter, no?

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Saint Sway Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 2,356	Re: The Rolling Stones in London & Newark - Offici Reply #159 - Oct 16^th, 2012 at 11:35am The new sig should be WE NEED A TRUST FUND Prices are out of hand. I guess, careful what we wish for, right?
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Re: The Rolling Stones in London & Newark - Offici
Reply #161 - Oct 16^th, 2012 at 11:56am

the PPV will likley be $60..based on wrestling and fight prices. The buy rate for concerts is always way below fights and wrestling but even 250,000 buys is 15 million......still cant believe they are going live with no edits.....should be interesting but surely will lead to a safe setlist and few surprises. One thing we havenet focused on is Ronnie and how much sharper he has been last 2 years or so live. Might surprise us what having him "on" can do for the sound.

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Re: The Rolling Stones in London & Newark - Offici
Reply #164 - Oct 16^th, 2012 at 12:52pm

Steel Wheels wrote on Oct 16^th, 2012 at 11:46am:

What did everyone think these tickets would go for? They usually bleed us dry with each tour. There's a lot of focus on the $750 ticket, but all I see are $95 seats, and $95 seats are my price!

Pointless comment unless you have an idea how many of them are in that category. There might be 5,000. There might also be about 300.

The fact is that there are less of them with each successive tour. And if the London example is any yardstick, there are a lot more than ever in the most expensive category.

How you measure it is the average price. The average ticket price on the last tour was $167. From what I read today, the £16 million/$25 million that the Stones got for these shows means that the promoters have to sell tickets at at LEAST £207 (thats about $350) just to break even.

So youre probably looking at considerably over $400 for an average ticket price. A 250% hike on their last tour.

Indefensible.

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Re: The Rolling Stones in London & Newark - Offici
Reply #165 - Oct 16^th, 2012 at 12:55pm

Patrick wrote on Oct 16^th, 2012 at 9:49am:

Gazza wrote on Oct 16^th, 2012 at 9:31am:

Probably similar arrangemen to the Amex one, ie the cream of the worst value seats for the price category.

You'll rarely get much quality and value for money wise in a free pre sale.

So you reckon there'll still be band 1 / band 2 tickets (definitely my limit, anyway) left by the general sale on Friday? Even after the wave of pre-sales is through?

There will always be tickets in every category on public sale. No presale gets a monopoly on an allocation for a particular 'area'.

The only thing is that there were some prices on the Amex sale which arent on the general sale (I think it was $250 or something). Whether the seats are necessarily any better I doubt. Its sort of like saying its announced a free presale, but youre actually paying a bit more for the ticket in that block than you will in the public sale

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Re: The Rolling Stones in London & Newark - Offici
Reply #166 - Oct 16^th, 2012 at 2:04pm

Contact Music surpass themselves

http://www.contactmusic.com/news/the-rolling-stones-live-tour-millions-fan-enqui...

Its the usual rehashed bland article that tells you nothing, but they choose to accompany the piece with a photo of a young girl in a Stones t-shirt.........standing in front of a toilet.

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Re: The Rolling Stones in London & Newark - Offici
Reply #170 - Oct 16^th, 2012 at 4:18pm

Steel Wheels wrote on Oct 16^th, 2012 at 11:46am:

What did everyone think these tickets would go for? They usually bleed us dry with each tour. There's a lot of focus on the $750 ticket, but all I see are $95 seats, and $95 seats are my price!

What Gazza said...I do know that at the last AC show...there were $60.00 tickets...the entire back 3 rows of the opposite-stage section...an approx total of 120 seats went for that price...

Our very own beautiful GotToRollMe scored a ticket and sold it to me after she decided to upgrade w/ Lady Jane to the floor...

Bless her heart...we have been friends ever since!!!

Thank You Mary

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Re: The Rolling Stones in London & Newark - Offici
Reply #171 - Oct 16^th, 2012 at 4:20pm

Gazza wrote on Oct 16^th, 2012 at 2:04pm:

Contact Music surpass themselves

http://www.contactmusic.com/news/the-rolling-stones-live-tour-millions-fan-enqui...

Its the usual rehashed bland article that tells you nothing, but they choose to accompany the piece with a photo of a young girl in a Stones t-shirt.........standing in front of a toilet.

Gazza...you missed it entirely...That "girl"was Paris Jackson...the son of the late King of Pop...according to the caption!! Grin

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Reply #172 - Oct 16^th, 2012 at 4:39pm

Paranoid Android wrote on Oct 16^th, 2012 at 4:20pm:

Gazza wrote on Oct 16^th, 2012 at 2:04pm:

Contact Music surpass themselves

http://www.contactmusic.com/news/the-rolling-stones-live-tour-millions-fan-enqui...

Its the usual rehashed bland article that tells you nothing, but they choose to accompany the piece with a photo of a young girl in a Stones t-shirt.........standing in front of a toilet.

Gazza...you missed it entirely...That "girl"was Paris Jackson...the son of the late King of Pop...according to the caption!! Grin

Looks like my daughter... changes her hair daily... cute as a button, mine and the late MJ...

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Re: The Rolling Stones in London & Newark - Offici
Reply #173 - Oct 16^th, 2012 at 4:46pm

What's pointless is complaining about the prices. That's pointless. For years we've all wished for another show. Well, now we got it. If I cannot afford a ticket to a show in the dead of winter on the east coast, I'll get the pay per view.

For all of the great affordable items Stones, Inc. have sold us (great downloads, Some Girls two disc set, $20-$30 shirts at Macys) they've also given us $5,000 pin ball machines, $1,500 cd box sets, and lithos with questionable signatures.

Also, I was the lucky guy to be with Lady Jane and You Got To Roll Me on the arena floor for that AC show.

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Re: The Rolling Stones in London & Newark - Offici
Reply #174 - Oct 16^th, 2012 at 5:05pm

Gazza wrote on Oct 16^th, 2012 at 12:55pm:

Patrick wrote on Oct 16^th, 2012 at 9:49am:

Gazza wrote on Oct 16^th, 2012 at 9:31am:

Probably similar arrangemen to the Amex one, ie the cream of the worst value seats for the price category.

You'll rarely get much quality and value for money wise in a free pre sale.

So you reckon there'll still be band 1 / band 2 tickets (definitely my limit, anyway) left by the general sale on Friday? Even after the wave of pre-sales is through?

There will always be tickets in every category on public sale. No presale gets a monopoly on an allocation for a particular 'area'.

The only thing is that there were some prices on the Amex sale which arent on the general sale (I think it was $250 or something). Whether the seats are necessarily any better I doubt. Its sort of like saying its announced a free presale, but youre actually paying a bit more for the ticket in that block than you will in the public sale

So from that derives that if you pay X amount for a certain block through Amex / o2 / Archive presale, and that gets you a seat in, say, block 102, someone else (who has waited until Friday's general sale) could also pay X amount but get a better seat later on, because that seat was not part of the pre-sale? Maybe even for cheaper?

From this it follows that the people who buy up presale tickets, in general, pay more for limited (therefore more likely to be worse) seats, depending on what blocks are included. So what drives people to buy tickets through a pre-sale? The mere sense of exclusivity?

This is making me lose my faith in any pre-sale. I'm trying to analyse whether it's better to secure a 106/166 ticket tomorrow at 9am (through the o2 presale - if i can) or take the risk of waiting until the floodgates open on Friday.

The question for me is which wave of sales (o2 or general) is going to take me further for my money... literally, towards the stage

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