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Gazza wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 4:43pm:
Steel Wheels wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 4:10pm:
Mars.


Maybe.

Mode of transport used for recent tour announcements

1989 - Train
1994 - Boat
1997 - Car
2002 - Blimp

Ok, in 2005 they sort of broke with tradition and actually played some music, but if they revert to type then the only viable options that havent really been tried are via submarine or from space.



At a JFK ( maybe Newark) Hanger in front of a VS 747-400...calling it now!!

EDIT: perhaps break the NYC tradition and do it at the Virgin Hanger at Gatwick...
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I know I sound like a grumpy old man, but I get a 'meh' feeling about yet another documentary. A good unauthorized one could be interesting, but then again...same with the new stuff: if it is 50 licks with 45 rehashed classics and 5 new takes, why not go for an EP?

Anything other than a new record (a good one this time, please) and a tour that reaches further than 4 dates probably won't get me jumping. Then there's the Stones Inc. attitude that's popping up again: if the price of the Brussels vinyl edition is an omen of what is to come, this band is so far out of reach with their fan base it's funny.

Oh well, I'll just keep spinning Exile...
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Gazza wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 4:43pm:
Steel Wheels wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 4:10pm:
Mars.


Maybe.

Mode of transport used for recent tour announcements

1989 - Train
1994 - Boat
1997 - Car
2002 - Blimp

Ok, in 2005 they sort of broke with tradition and actually played some music, but if they revert to type then the only viable options that havent really been tried are via submarine or from space.


1975 - Flatbed truck
1978 - ?
1981 - ?
1982 - Mick at the Longchamps horsetrack based on an old magazine I'd ordered

That's right, the boat's already been done...a bicycle maybe, not very "Rock", motorcyles maybe...oh I know, the Top of the Rock, in NYC, that would be cool.
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anywhere, just a simple we are going to tour, come see us bitches!!!
pull out a few acoustic guitars and play a slow tempo version of JJF, get up and leave!!!
never gonna happen, but making a huge spectacle of an announcemnt isn't needed, they are the spectacle!!! anything else gets in the way!
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gotdablouse wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:43pm:
Gazza wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 4:43pm:
Steel Wheels wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 4:10pm:
Mars.


Maybe.

Mode of transport used for recent tour announcements

1989 - Train
1994 - Boat
1997 - Car
2002 - Blimp

Ok, in 2005 they sort of broke with tradition and actually played some music, but if they revert to type then the only viable options that havent really been tried are via submarine or from space.


1975 - Flatbed truck
1978 - ?
1981 - ?
1982 - Mick at the Longchamps horsetrack based on an old magazine I'd ordered

That's right, the boat's already been done...a bicycle maybe, not very "Rock", motorcyles maybe...oh I know, the Top of the Rock, in NYC, that would be cool.



Dont think there was any formal 'big' announcement for tours prior to 1981, apart from '75

In 1981, Mick did a press conference at JFK Stadium. For the '82 and '90 Euro tours he did press conferences in London at La Beat Route (1982) and at The Tabernacle Club (1990). The latter one was broadcast on MTV Europe and he almost broke his neck when he tripped over a wire as he came onstage after being introduced!

The 1995 European tour was announced via a press conference in Palm Beach, Florida in November 1994, just a couple of days after the Stones had played the Miami PPV show. I only recall the 1998 tour being done via a press release around November - I remember phoning the Stones publicists, telling them I was a journalist (I didnt even have the internet at the time) and getting them to fax me the tour dates at work. The 2003 Euro tour was done much the same way as I recall. For the 2006 tour, they did something similar to what they did for 1995 - the band were playing in Dallas in late November and did a press conference and interviews there. For the second ABB European tour in 2007, Mick took part in a webcast in March of that year.  Keith was also meant to show up for it, but mysteriously failed to do so!


For the 1999 No Security tour, I think (from memory) they just did a press release again but I seem to recall some kind of VH-1 announcement. The European dates that year had already been confirmed in June 1998 after the UK dates had been postponed for 12 months. They just gradually added a few more dates with minimal fanfare.
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Mars.

Curiosity announces the tour from Mars? Shocked
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I remember the OFFICIAL  listening party at Danceteria for ER...don't know if that could be considered an  announcement since they didn't tour for ER
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Where Bill German got to meet them for the first time?

@gazza - thanks the write-up, I'm going to save that. For the European 2006 tour we got this hilarious webcast with questions from journalists from each country where they all looked embarrassed by Keith's "randomness" (he was drinking some red stuff) and Mick was trying to keep things moving. Somehow I'd recorded the whole thing on my computer but I'm not sure what happened to it, need to go digging...
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I remember the OFFICIAL  listening party at Danceteria for ER...don't know if that could be considered an  announcement since they didn't tour for ER


Yeah, it was sort of an album launch party - with a 'hospital theme'. (Dunno why!). Charlie was absent.

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Some footage :  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExPi1YY3O4k
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Gazza wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 6:28pm:
Paranoid Android wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:57pm:
I remember the OFFICIAL  listening party at Danceteria for ER...don't know if that could be considered an  announcement since they didn't tour for ER


Yeah, it was sort of an album launch party - with a 'hospital theme'. (Dunno why!). Charlie was absent.

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Some footage :  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExPi1YY3O4k



Well...they certainly look medicated!!!  ( see 1;36) Interesting stuff Ronnie!
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Gazza wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 7:27am:
Ian Billen wrote on Aug 29th, 2012 at 10:40pm:
Ya ... I saw that. As well, Don Was just said they have a number of plans on the table and that they are just coming together on some of them now.

Michael Cohl says that "on the record or off the record" whichever you prefer (paraphrased),  right now he can honestly say he knows nothing of any tour. He says .. in short ..."I got nothin".


- Ian



1. He said it in June, according to the quote.

2. No one will confirm anything or claim any insight until the shows are announced.

3. Cohl is not the promoter of these shows. Richard Branson and Paul Dainty will be.

This story is on the other 'Big News' thread as well....should we keep this thread separate or merge it?





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1. I didn't know he said that back in June. My bad.

2. I know... I was just trying to see if we should rule Cohl out.

3. Because Branson and Dainty will be promoting the shows in November does not mean they will be promoting a tour next year ....although it seems a very real possiblility, especially if all goes very well financially (which it almost certainly should) and they can guarantee a bigger paycheck than Cohl.


Where should we put this response you ask? That is entirely up to me. If I see it fit to move it to another thread, I will. If I think it should sit right here, that's the way it will be. If I want to think about it a while... I can. Remember, I'm running this show .. .. .. .. .. ..


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Cohl is out, I think The Stones now his lawsuit problems are toxic... there's other people, and they are using them...
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Cohl is out, I think The Stones now his lawsuit problems are toxic... there's other people, and they are using them...





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Your comment "...there's other people, and they are using them" is ringing very true. The Stones are a corporation (in a sense...sadly, sort of...) and they may take the very safest route to the big cash.. even if there's a tad more in other avenues that pose risk. However, don't count Cohl out. The Stones "are" risk takers in some situations and if Cohl can wave a bigger pay-check in front of their noses for next year they just may chance it. It wouldn't be the first time they had risked and won out. There is no smarter act in the history of music when it comes to touring as The Stones. I'm sure they will make the right choice.

Still... you know Cohl is "concerned" as all get-out right now. It's like seeing a chic you thought you had forever in the bag finally out with another bloke...and having a great time... Will she indeed comeback this time... or is it over? To say Cohl is not mulling this concept over right now is unrealistic. Is Cohl used up by The Stones as so many have been in the past? I can't say Cohls out for a major ticket next year... then again ... guess what...

as you noted... The Stones are proving Cohl is not the only promoter that has the potential to make them record numbers. I openly admit ...a few months ago I just couldn't see this happening with that kind of loot coming from most likely Cohl or at the least Live Nation. I even had argued against the fact that anyone could prove to be that profitable as either those two entities. I am still not saying Cohls out, still it's now it's not so "far fetched" at all in assuming he just may be on the outs. Hmmmm?... we shall see.  


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I think some of you are seriously overstating the importance of a promoter here...
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Correct.

I only mentioned it to highlight the fact that the comment Cohl did make was back in June. Before these shows were seriously considered. Some fans even seriously argued that the Stones COULDNT tour until the Cohl/Live Nation lawsuit was resolved ffs! (aside from the fact that the band actually issued a statement about two years ago stating that he was no longer employed as their promoter)

I dont recall Branson having any history as a music promoter though. Which makes the reasoning behind using him a bit more intriguing than it normally would be.
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Gazza wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 3:22pm:
LadyJane wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 2:35pm:
I've waited so long for this and it couldn't come at a worse time for me.
Employment issues. Sad
I'd never get a ticket anyway.

Unless they add some shows in 2013, Boardwalk Hall will be my last Stones show.  Cry

stu watching how stupid we are LOL



Please!

There will be a tour in 2013. This is just a taster.

There's no way they're going to rehearse for weeks just for four or five concerts.

The shows later this year will not be the last Rolling Stones concerts.

I know many of us are a bit wary of potentially sky high prices but I do think someone will be underwriting a large amount of the money to put them together. I dont think its a coincidence that theyre playing a new Barclays-owned concert venue for the New York shows instead of Madison Square Garden.

I'm also more confident in Richard Branson - who has a very good track record as a philanthropist - being more fan friendly as a promoter than Michael Cohl. The Aussies on here could maybe give us more of an insight into Paul Dainty.


You will see the Stones in 2013. As will that rat bastid friend of ours from Joisey.


Thanks G.
This is all very exciting!!!
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my spare 250 quid is well & truly ready to be spent on a nosebleed seat at the O2.

I can't wait for renditions of 'Start Me Up' & 'Streets Of Love' as viewed from the rafters, whilst corporate suits barge past you, every two minutes, with trays of warm beer and hotdogs.

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Ian Billen wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 12:00am:
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Cohl is out, I think The Stones now his lawsuit problems are toxic... there's other people, and they are using them...





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Your comment "...there's other people, and they are using them" is ringing very true. The Stones are a corporation (in a sense...sadly, sort of...) and they may take the very safest route to the big cash.. even if there's a tad more in other avenues that pose risk. However, don't count Cohl out. The Stones "are" risk takers in some situations and if Cohl can wave a bigger pay-check in front of their noses for next year they just may chance it. It wouldn't be the first time they had risked and won out. There is no smarter act in the history of music when it comes to touring as The Stones. I'm sure they will make the right choice.

Still... you know Cohl is "concerned" as all get-out right now. It's like seeing a chic you thought you had forever in the bag finally out with another bloke...and having a great time... Will she indeed comeback this time... or is it over? To say Cohl is not mulling this concept over right now is unrealistic. Is Cohl used up by The Stones as so many have been in the past? I



Bill Graham on the Stones' decision to hire Cohl in 1989 :

"Losing the Stones was like watching my favorite lover become a whore"

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Ade wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:00am:
my spare 250 quid is well & truly ready to be spent on a nosebleed seat at the O2.

I can't wait for renditions of 'Start Me Up' & 'Streets Of Love' as viewed from the rafters, whilst corporate suits barge past you, every two minutes, with trays of warm beer and hotdogs.

Have you no fucking shame?


Chris Epting (hbwriter on IORR) who some of you may know is a music journalist stated that he'd been told that there may be a lottery-type ticketless system for these shows to make availability fairer and to cut down on scalping as they know the demand will be massive.  Something similar to what was used when Led Zeppelin did their reunion gig at the 02 five years ago.

If true, this might explain why Richard Branson - who has no track record in concert promotion to speak of but is big on philanthopical and charitable endeavours - is involved in this venture with an established concert promoter in Paul Dainty.
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Gazza wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 6:28pm:
Paranoid Android wrote on Aug 30th, 2012 at 5:57pm:
I remember the OFFICIAL  listening party at Danceteria for ER...don't know if that could be considered an  announcement since they didn't tour for ER


Yeah, it was sort of an album launch party - with a 'hospital theme'. (Dunno why!). Charlie was absent.

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Some footage :  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExPi1YY3O4k


Hospital theme in connection with the "Rescue" concept, love that look on Keith's face during the interview, looks he's just been woken up from hibernation! This makes me want to listen to ER like...NOW!

Can't wait for more details to emerge now that the cat is out of the bag!
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Exactly..its not as if Cohl was Bobby The Brain Heenan....
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The first insight into the new songs recorded in Paris comes from Chuck Leavell...





THE ARENA Updated August 30, 2012, 10:49 p.m. ET

A Stones Sideman Steps Out
By JOHN JURGENSEN


The email from Mick Jagger came in on July 24. He was putting Chuck Leavell on active duty with the Rolling Stones, as he has many times since the journeyman keyboard player first toured with the band in 1982. From his home near Macon, Ga., Mr. Leavell flew to Paris for a weeklong recording session that ended last Thursday, and contributed piano and organ parts for two new songs intended for a Stones 50th-anniversary release expected later this year.


Mr. Leavell's calendar reflects his career as a musical wingman to the likes of the Allman Brothers, Eric Clapton and George Harrison. Before parachuting into Paris, he recorded in Nashville with blues harmonica heavy James Cotton. He then spent two weeks at John Mayer's house on the Yellowstone River in Montana, where the chart-topping singer and guitarist was breaking in a studio and recording new material while recovering from throat surgery. The Stones finished just in time for Mr. Leavell to make a concert—with his own band—in Chattanooga, Tenn.

In addition to impeccable chops, musicians hired for long-haul sessions and tours must provide good company. During an interview in New York this summer, Mr. Leavell chuckled over road memories, like winging it on an out-of-tune piano in Italy during his freshman tour with the Stones; or when a stage tech attached two hair dryers to a plastic tube to warm the pianist's fingers during a frigid mid-'70s Allman Brothers show.

Seated at a Steinway in Electric Lady Studios, where he played on Mr. Mayer's last album, "Born and Raised," Mr. Leavell improvised some boogie-woogie, stride and barrelhouse riffs. He explored these styles on his recent album "Back to the Woods," a homage to Otis Spann, Leroy Carr and other piano pioneers. He says, "When you say 'blues,' everybody thinks 'guitars.' "

Mr. Leavell last joined the Stones for a rehearsal in New York in April, the first time the band had assembled in five years. He describes the songs they recorded in Paris as "up-tempo" Jagger/Richards rockers, including one on which Ronnie Wood played slide guitar. "Great hooks. Great energy. Bare bones," he says. With co-producer Don Was present, they dashed off the songs with just a few takes each. Mr. Leavell wouldn't confirm a recent report that the band will play concerts in London and Brooklyn in November.

There are risks to playing sideman to the stars. When Mr. Mayer canceled a tour because of his throat problem, Mr. Leavell lost a job that would have lasted at least six months. It was also too late to book many of his own solo gigs for the summer. In part to buffer himself, he has built side careers, including a founding stake in a conservationist website, the Mother Nature Network, and a 2,500-acre tree farm he runs with his wife. When gigs fall through, he says, "I don't mind spending time on that tractor."

A version of this article appeared August 31, 2012, on page D5 in the U.S. edition of The Wall Street Journal, with the headline: A Stones Sideman Steps Out.

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Ade wrote on Aug 31st, 2012 at 6:00am:
my spare 250 quid is well & truly ready to be spent on a nosebleed seat at the O2.

I can't wait for renditions of 'Start Me Up' & 'Streets Of Love' as viewed from the rafters, whilst corporate suits barge past you, every two minutes, with trays of warm beer and hotdogs.

Have you no fucking shame?


Chris Epting (hbwriter on IORR) who some of you may know is a music journalist stated that he'd been told that there may be a lottery-type ticketless system for these shows to make availability fairer and to cut down on scalping as they know the demand will be massive.  Something similar to what was used when Led Zeppelin did their reunion gig at the 02 five years ago.

If true, this might explain why Richard Branson - who has no track record in concert promotion to speak of but is big on philanthopical and charitable endeavours - is involved in this venture with an established concert promoter in Paul Dainty.


thanks for the info, Gary

This particular mug-punter is sorely unconvinced 'our boys' could genuinely, sell out multiple nights at London's O2 in 2012.
 They couldn't, circa 2007 (remember the stewards on the stairwells with fistfull's of free upgrades??)
The ballot system would be a cannny way of generating positive p.r & a guaranteed 'sell out'
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