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Reply #201 - Aug 30^th, 2012 at 7:16am

gotdablouse wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 6:57am:

Pdog wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 6:21am:

Gazza wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 3:57am:

thanks to erikjjf, who saved me the trouble :

The Barclays Center is available on November 1-3, 5-8, 11, 13, 15, 22-23 and 25-26.
The O2 is available on November 1-4, 13, 16-25, 27 and 29.

if rumor is truth, you're expecting more dates?

Seems easy enough to add a few more dates at the same place if they're all set up. Besides with $25m (and I doubt they'd bother for less) and 80000 seats that's a net of $312.5 per seat so that can't be right.

Assuming Mick still cant sing two nights in a row, they'll probably need three free nights to play two shows (they could still do it by dismantling the stage and allowing the venue to be used for something else on the off night but thats probably too much bother).

In which case, unless they play early in the month, the NYC dates would be (IMO) more likely to be November 23rd and 25th. Its a Friday and a Sunday which helps. Its also around the time the greatest hits package comes out, so it would be a good promotional tie in with that release. There's no other combination available in the second half of November.

Just guesswork, I hasten to add. Quite a roster for this venue that month. Dylan/Knopfler, The Who, Neil Young and now the Stones. And the shows dont have to be two days apart. They could play 22nd and 25th for example.

And thats quite a few nights free at the 02 in London just prior to that. $25 million for 4 indoor shows in front of 80,000 people seems a serious wedge, even by Stones standards (last tour their average gross was $4 million per show - and most of those were stadiums). Unless their prices are through the roof (in which case they can stuff it), there would have to be some kind of TV rights or options on extra shows for any promoter to come up with that kind of dough.

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Reply #202 - Aug 30^th, 2012 at 7:19am

gimmekeef wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 7:10am:

End of November is the big Thanksgiving week end in USA....Watch for a PPV show to be streamed after editing to the USA and World then to add to the revenue.....

Good point. Big risk reputation-wise after five years of inactivity to not only play a big show (with high ticket prices) but to broadcast it 'live'.

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Reply #204 - Aug 30^th, 2012 at 7:36am

Barclays will be capable of holding 19,000 for concerts.

Its due to open next month.

The 02 holds around 20,000

However, all-seated capacity for these venues would be a bit less as Stones shows will probably have that kind of arrangement. The capacity for the 2007 shows there was around 14-15,000 by the time they put in the b-stage as well.

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Reply #207 - Aug 29^th, 2012 at 10:40pm

Ya ... I saw that. As well, Don Was just said they have a number of plans on the table and that they are just coming together on some of them now.

Michael Cohl says that "on the record or off the record" whichever you prefer (paraphrased), right now he can honestly say he knows nothing of any tour. He says .. in short ..."I got nothin".

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Reply #208 - Aug 29^th, 2012 at 10:54pm

i saw this
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/rolling-stones-reportedly-set-to-play-four-2012-s...

ROLLING STONES REPORTEDLY SET TO PLAY FOUR SHOWS IN 2012
by: Chad Childers 1 hour ago

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The Rolling Stones‘ Mick Jagger hinted earlier this year that “autumn” would be the next time he thought we’d see the band onstage. It now looks as though that prediction is pretty spot on, as Billboard reports that the band are in the process of lining up four performances later this year.

A source tells the magazine that Sir Richard Branson and Australian promoter Paul Dainty are backing the four shows, which will take place this November. Two of the shows will take place at London’s O2 Arena, while the other two are heading across the pond to the Barclays Center in Brooklyn.

Though the band are celebrating their 50th anniversary this year, the talk about a tour has been a touchy one with each of the members at time chiming in with differing stories. Earlier this year the group stated that they wouldn’t go on tour, but then they started having a few rehearsals in the studio. By July, Keith Richards hinted that there might be some live shows coming. He explained, “We’ve got together and it feels so good. There’s things in the works. I think it’s definitely happening. But when? I can’t say yet.”

Michael Cohl, who produced the band’s tours from 1989 through the present, told Billboard back in late June that he hadn’t received any info on the band’s upcoming tour plans.

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Reply #210 - Aug 30^th, 2012 at 7:27am

Ian Billen wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 10:40pm:

Ya ... I saw that. As well, Don Was just said they have a number of plans on the table and that they are just coming together on some of them now.

Michael Cohl says that "on the record or off the record" whichever you prefer (paraphrased), right now he can honestly say he knows nothing of any tour. He says .. in short ..."I got nothin".

- Ian

1. He said it in June, according to the quote.

2. No one will confirm anything or claim any insight until the shows are announced.

3. Cohl is not the promoter of these shows. Richard Branson and Paul Dainty will be.

This story is on the other 'Big News' thread as well....should we keep this thread separate or merge it?

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Reply #211 - Aug 30^th, 2012 at 7:33am

Gazza wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 7:27am:

Ian Billen wrote on Aug 29^th, 2012 at 10:40pm:

Ya ... I saw that. As well, Don Was just said they have a number of plans on the table and that they are just coming together on some of them now.

Michael Cohl says that "on the record or off the record" whichever you prefer (paraphrased), right now he can honestly say he knows nothing of any tour. He says .. in short ..."I got nothin".

- Ian

1. He said it in June, according to the quote.

2. No one will confirm anything or claim any insight until the shows are announced.

3. Cohl is not the promoter of these shows. Richard Branson and Paul Dainty will be.

This story is on the other 'Big News' thread as well....should we keep this thread separate or merge it?

No, Together with the other thread

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Reply #213 - Aug 30^th, 2012 at 7:49am

Gazza wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 7:19am:

gimmekeef wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 7:10am:

End of November is the big Thanksgiving week end in USA....Watch for a PPV show to be streamed after editing to the USA and World then to add to the revenue.....

Good point. Big risk reputation-wise after five years of inactivity to not only play a big show (with high ticket prices) but to broadcast it 'live'.

Wouldnt be surprised if they really add a lot of guest guitar players besides Taylor.....Clapton, Townshend, Beck come to mind.......and of course Blondie should be up to the challenge....

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Reply #214 - Aug 30^th, 2012 at 7:54am

Gazza wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 7:36am:

Barclays will be capable of holding 19,000 for concerts.

Its due to open next month.

The 02 holds around 20,000

However, all-seated capacity for these venues would be a bit less as Stones shows will probably have that kind of arrangement. The capacity for the 2007 shows there was around 14-15,000 by the time they put in the b-stage as well.

Thanks G!

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Joey Rocks Off Regular Online Posts: 20,652 Omaha , NE Gender:	Re: "BIG NEWS COMING SOON" !!! - updated 30/8/12 Reply #217 - Aug 30^th, 2012 at 8:32am " holy christ--where the hell do you park?? " The arena is STILL under construction ( First Concert is September 27th ) http://www.barclayscenter.com/getting-here/parking/
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Reply #218 - Aug 30^th, 2012 at 9:09am

Gazza wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 3:57am:

thanks to erikjjf, who saved me the trouble :
The Barclays Center is available on November 1-3, 5-8, 11, 13, 15, 22-23 and 25-26.
The O2 is available on November 1-4, 13, 16-25, 27 and 29.

Gazza, these dates seemed "available" according to the Barclays Center website. But it didn't list the dates for the Brooklyn Nets' home games, which were listed on the team's website. The actually available dates are only November 2, 6, 7, 8, 22 and 26.

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Gazza Unholy Trinity Admin Offline Rat Bastid "We piss anywhere, man.." Posts: 13,231 Belfast, UK Gender:	Re: "BIG NEWS COMING SOON" !!! - updated 30/8/12 Reply #219 - Aug 30^th, 2012 at 9:23am I see. Maybe we shouldnt take the 'November' thing at face value. How's early December fixed up?
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erikjjf Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 133 Sweden Gender:	Re: "BIG NEWS COMING SOON" !!! - updated 30/8/12 Reply #220 - Aug 30^th, 2012 at 9:29am Gazza wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 9:23am: I see. Maybe we shouldnt take the 'November' thing at face value. How's early December fixed up? December 6th, 8th and 13th appear to be available. Otherwise booked solid.
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Reply #221 - Aug 30^th, 2012 at 9:40am

Hmmm..

Maybe last weekend of November in London. First weekend in December in New York.

If the greatest hits record is in the shops that week (which it should be according to sources) that would work perfectly.

'developing'.

Doubt I'd risk crazy money on the hope that an ageing band who havent worked in 5 years MIGHT hit the ground running without a warm up gig, but I'm sure they'll sell out OK.

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Reply #223 - Aug 30^th, 2012 at 11:01am

Bingo wrote on Aug 30^th, 2012 at 9:48am:

Can Keith play? OR is this going to be a Ronnie and Blondie tour while Keith poses? The last tour pretty much sucked, with an occasional highlight here and there.

Most money I'll pay for a ticket is $50.

$50 will barely get you in the parking lot these days. But it might be enough for the DVD from these shows. Blank Frigging Stare

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