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Interesting bit of Olympic history here:







August 10, 2012 8:25 am
The Olympic Salute We Don’t Use Anymore Because it Looked too Much Like Heiling Hitler


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This statue is saluting the Olympics. Image: Arch

If you really loved the Olympics, you would do the official Olympic salute. It goes like this: right arm out slightly and pointed upward, fingers together, palm out. Kind of like you’re raising you’re hand in class. Unfortunately, it also kind of looks like you’re heiling Hitler. Which is why no one uses the official Olympic salute anymore.

At Today I Found Out, they dig up the history, and confusion, caused by the salute. Apparently the Olympic salute came long before Hitler’s gesture, but it caused all sorts of confusion in the 1936 Berlin Olympics. Apparently no one could tell which teams were saluting Hitler, and which were saluting the Olympics. The French team, who were trying to salute the Olympics, got a standing ovation from the German crowd who thought they were saluting the Fuhrer.

The origin of the salutes is unclear. Some people think that both the Olympic and the Nazi versions came from an imaginary Roman salute (imaginary because there are no Roman accounts of this salute, but 19th and 20th century artwork all portrayed Romans doing it). It was adopted by the Olympics, and then also by the Italian Fascist Party. From there, the Nazi party swiped the salute to use for their own rituals. Although that’s not how Hitler tells it. Here’s his story, as Today I Found Out quotes from a “Table Talk” from 1942:

I made it the salute of the Party long after the Duce had adopted it. I’d read the description of the sitting of the Diet of Worms, in the course of which Luther was greeted with the German salute. It was to show him that he was not being confronted with arms, but with peaceful intentions. In the days of Frederick the Great, people still saluted with their hats, with pompous gestures. In the Middle Ages, the serfs humbly doffed their bonnets, whilst the noblemen gave the German salute. It was in the Ratskeller at Bremen, about the year 1921, that I first saw this style of salute. It must be regarded as a survival of an ancient custom, which originally signified: “See, I have no weapon in my hand!” I introduced the salute into the Party at our first meeting in Weimar. The SS at once gave it a soldierly style. It’s from that moment that our opponents honored us with the epithet “dogs of Fascists”.

The salute was commonly used in Olympic posters, like this one from the 1924 Paris Olympics:

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In 1948 the Ottowa Citizen reported that the salute would probably be discontinued after the 1948 games. They write: “The Swiss propose a new salute, consisting of turning the head sharply to the right while keeping the hands to the side.” But it wasn’t really necessary to ban the thing – after 1936 it all but disappeared from use.

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Had to close the screen on my work PC when that Paris 1924 poster popped up as to anyone walking past it would appear that I was perusing a gay porn site
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Stones and Zep got dissed.....Spice Girls blow as bad now as they did before...Pet Shop boys?.....gimme a break...Fab Games but crap closing..
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Stones and Zep got dissed.....Spice Girls blow as bad now as they did before...Pet Shop boys?.....gimme a break...Fab Games but crap closing..


even sadder was the bowie tribute who's still alive!!!  thought he might have come otta retirement and done a couple of numbers with the models sashaying during "fashion". another miss was the the absence of david gilmour singing  "wish you were here" poor olde nick mason with a surrogate band...........
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Reply #208 - Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:03am
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mojoman wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 10:22am:
gimmekeef wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 9:48am:
Stones and Zep got dissed.....Spice Girls blow as bad now as they did before...Pet Shop boys?.....gimme a break...Fab Games but crap closing..


even sadder was the bowie tribute who's still alive!!!  thought he might have come otta retirement and done a couple of numbers with the models sashaying during "fashion". another miss was the the absence of david gilmour singing  "wish you were here" poor olde nick mason with a surrogate band...........

That was the Kaiser Chiefs. Pretty sad when neither Gilmour or Waters wanted to be there. No Stones. That's a crime.
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Reply #209 - Aug 13th, 2012 at 11:42am
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London is the best.  I encourage you all to go.  Even a whining political crybaby would enjoy London.  Probably.

Anyway, I called my bar earlier.  Told them not to expect me, and I'd be drinking from home today.
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Joey wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 7:47am:


Joey, when I clicked on your You Tube post, this is what I received:

This video contains content from International Olympic Committee, who has blocked it on copyright grounds.

I need to lay down & contain myself now after receiving this response.
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mojoman wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 10:22am:
gimmekeef wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 9:48am:
Stones and Zep got dissed.....Spice Girls blow as bad now as they did before...Pet Shop boys?.....gimme a break...Fab Games but crap closing..


even sadder was the bowie tribute who's still alive!!!  thought he might have come otta retirement and done a couple of numbers with the models sashaying during "fashion". another miss was the the absence of david gilmour singing  "wish you were here" poor olde nick mason with a surrogate band...........



You cant make people play if they don't want to be part of it.

Big fuss over nothing IMO.

The musical universe doesn't revolve around rock bands who appeal to the over 45's and Britain's contribution to the arts and entertainment cultures didn't begin in 1963 and end in the late 70's.

I would daresay that if the Stones had wanted to be part of this, it would have been them and not The Who closing the event.  They chose not to. The main 'blame' for their lack of profile at this event lies with themselves. They had the perfect chance to showcase themselves and instead chose the 'we're not ready' excuse. For fuck sake, even the bloody Spice Girls were able to put a five minute routine together after not having worked together for almost a decade. How difficult would it REALLY have been to play 'Satisfaction'?

I think the guy who put together the musical content had something like 1,000 songs which had to be whittled down to about 30. Hard to effectively showcase every era in history from that. For all we know, the Stones might not have wished their music to be included or maybe asked too much. We simply dont know.

At the end of the day, its not important. The Stones' legacy isn't enhanced or minimised one iota by their inclusion or exclusion from someone's playlist at a sporting event.  Doesnt bother me in the slightest that they werent at the event, but its pointless blaming the show's producers for their absence when they were given the perfect opportunity to present a headlining, show-stealing cameo.

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If you showcase a musical era as they did..and include 2 Beatle tunes...some Who and Bowie...not to play a snippet of Stones or Zep is wrong....it just is.......
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" Closing Ceremony cuts spark outrage  "


" Viewers were left wondering what happened after NBC cut some iconic British performances out of the Olympics Closing Ceremony on Sunday.

Fans looking forward to hearing the Who, Muse, and Ray Davies of the Kinks
instead got a commercial-free airing of the new NBC comedy "Animal Practice. "

The network did air the Who after "Animal Practice" and the local news, around midnight. But that didn't seem to satisfy some fans who couldn't believe the snubbing of Muse, whose contribution was particularly important to the 2012 Summer Olympics.  "


This happened nationwide  ---- totally pissed the entire United States off to no end . There were riots in Phoenix ( well , kinda .................. )



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If you showcase a musical era as they did..and include 2 Beatle tunes...some Who and Bowie...not to play a snippet of Stones or Zep is wrong....it just is.......


Its not 'wrong', its just personal taste. Its only the closing ceremony of a sporting event, after all. It doesnt matter.

The Who actually being there to perform sort of helped their 'case'.

Bowie isn't really the same era as the Stones.

Likewise with Zeppelin.

The Stones' music was included in the opening ceremony anyway. They were mentioned in a newspaper report a couple of days ago as being featured in a '3 hour musical tribute' - maybe the organisers had to edit it down, who knows, as I dont think the music lasted anywhere near that long.
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The same Americans who were happy that Chicago didn't get next games are the ones who predicted London would fail.

I like doing acid, but even more boozing it up.  I don't like injecting drugs.  Cheap fleeting, nowhere licks.  Dont get my creative thoughts flowing, nor my morose ones.

Need to get back to regular business thoughts.  There is NOTHING greater than American business.

Some serious Olympic games!
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Gazza wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 2:29pm:
mojoman wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 10:22am:
gimmekeef wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 9:48am:
Stones and Zep got dissed.....Spice Girls blow as bad now as they did before...Pet Shop boys?.....gimme a break...Fab Games but crap closing..


even sadder was the bowie tribute who's still alive!!!  thought he might have come otta retirement and done a couple of numbers with the models sashaying during "fashion". another miss was the the absence of david gilmour singing  "wish you were here" poor olde nick mason with a surrogate band...........



You cant make people play if they don't want to be part of it.

Big fuss over nothing IMO.

The musical universe doesn't revolve around rock bands who appeal to the over 45's and Britain's contribution to the arts and entertainment cultures didn't begin in 1963 and end in the late 70's.

I would daresay that if the Stones had wanted to be part of this, it would have been them and not The Who closing the event.  They chose not to. The main 'blame' for their lack of profile at this event lies with themselves. They had the perfect chance to showcase themselves and instead chose the 'we're not ready' excuse. For fuck sake, even the bloody Spice Girls were able to put a five minute routine together after not having worked together for almost a decade. How difficult would it REALLY have been to play 'Satisfaction'?

I think the guy who put together the musical content had something like 1,000 songs which had to be whittled down to about 30. Hard to effectively showcase every era in history from that. For all we know, the Stones might not have wished their music to be included or maybe asked too much. We simply dont know.

At the end of the day, its not important. The Stones' legacy isn't enhanced or minimised one iota by their inclusion or exclusion from someone's playlist at a sporting event.  Doesnt bother me in the slightest that they werent at the event, but its pointless blaming the show's producers for their absence when they were given the perfect opportunity to present a headlining, show-stealing cameo.




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Gazza wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 4:12pm:
gimmekeef wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 2:38pm:
If you showcase a musical era as they did..and include 2 Beatle tunes...some Who and Bowie...not to play a snippet of Stones or Zep is wrong....it just is.......


Its not 'wrong', its just personal taste. Its only the closing ceremony of a sporting event, after all. It doesnt matter.

The Who actually being there to perform sort of helped their 'case'.

Bowie isn't really the same era as the Stones.

Likewise with Zeppelin.

The Stones' music was included in the opening ceremony anyway. They were mentioned in a newspaper report a couple of days ago as being featured in a '3 hour musical tribute' - maybe the organisers had to edit it down, who knows, as I dont think the music lasted anywhere near that long.



Gazza...of course its personal taste..but it was wrong from the way my tastes see it.....Glad the world enjoyed a fantastic event..hell if they had played 20 Stones tunes I be bitchin about the ones they left out...
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gimmekeef wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 7:24pm:
Gazza wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 4:12pm:
gimmekeef wrote on Aug 13th, 2012 at 2:38pm:
If you showcase a musical era as they did..and include 2 Beatle tunes...some Who and Bowie...not to play a snippet of Stones or Zep is wrong....it just is.......


Its not 'wrong', its just personal taste. Its only the closing ceremony of a sporting event, after all. It doesnt matter.

The Who actually being there to perform sort of helped their 'case'.

Bowie isn't really the same era as the Stones.

Likewise with Zeppelin.

The Stones' music was included in the opening ceremony anyway. They were mentioned in a newspaper report a couple of days ago as being featured in a '3 hour musical tribute' - maybe the organisers had to edit it down, who knows, as I dont think the music lasted anywhere near that long.



Gazza...of course its personal taste..but it was wrong from the way my tastes see it.....Glad the world enjoyed a fantastic event..hell if they had played 20 Stones tunes I be bitchin about the ones they left out...



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I don't think most people realize just how fast David Rudisha ran that 800.  Incredible time!  Holy fuck.
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I don't think most people realize just how fast David Rudisha ran that 800.  Incredible time!  Holy fuck.



THE most astounding performance of the games for me.

To destroy a field like that - despite most of them setting their personal or season's best times. Incredible.

and to do it from the front - with no pacemakers, as is normally the case when attempting a world record.
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The musical universe doesn't revolve around rock bands who appeal to the over 45's and Britain's contribution to the arts and entertainment cultures didn't begin in 1963 and end in the late 70's.


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