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StickyStones Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 301 Gender:	Stones Fans Opinions: Nirvana Jan 19^th, 2012 at 6:33pm What do you guys think of Nirvana, Kurt Cobain and all of that Grunge stuff from the late 80s-mid 90s?
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Kilroy Rocks Off Regular Offline I love this place! Posts: 2,863 Mickville Virginny USA Gender:	Re: Stones Fans Opinions: Nirvana Reply #1 - Jan 19^th, 2012 at 6:56pm Ok For the kids! Not for me, sorry.
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patioaintdry Rocks Off Regular Offline the pools in but the patio ain't dry Posts: 144 Gender:	Re: Stones Fans Opinions: Nirvana Reply #2 - Jan 19^th, 2012 at 6:57pm In Utero is a good album. Soundgarden were terrific live - Badmotorfinger is a great album. Pearl Jam have been consistently boring, but are certainly resilient.
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Brainbell Jangler Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,331 Portland, OR Gender:	Re: Stones Fans Opinions: Nirvana Reply #3 - Jan 19^th, 2012 at 7:00pm I own In Utero, Nevermind and Unplugged. I'm particularly fond of Unplugged; some of the chord progressions and vocals remind me of John Lennon. And, Kilroy, it's great to be considered one of "the kids" at age 57!
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lotsajizz Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,818 Rhode Island Gender:	Re: Stones Fans Opinions: Nirvana Reply #4 - Jan 19^th, 2012 at 7:09pm Nirvana and, especially, Pearl Jam rock! The latter have consistently put on some of the best concerts this thousand-plus show veteran has ever seen...
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BILL PERKS Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 1,188 NJ	Re: Stones Fans Opinions: Nirvana Reply #5 - Jan 19^th, 2012 at 7:19pm NIRVANA-HATED IT! PEARL JAM IS FANTATSTIC.QUITE POSSIBLY THE BEST LIVE SHOW I'VE SEEN IN 1998.MADE THE STONES LOOK LIKE A SKIFFLE GROUP.
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Re: Stones Fans Opinions: Nirvana
Reply #6 - Jan 19^th, 2012 at 7:58pm

Brainbell Jangler wrote on Jan 19^th, 2012 at 7:00pm:

I own In Utero, Nevermind and Unplugged. I'm particularly fond of Unplugged; some of the chord progressions and vocals remind me of John Lennon. And, Kilroy, it's great to be considered one of "the kids" at age 57!
Have you no fucking shame?

No Problem and you are welcome my fellow 50 + friend, There is stuff here and there I really Like by them, don't get me wrong. it's, IMO, for the younger kids.
Maybe I should listen more intently if a fellow Rocks Off patron is reminded of John Lennon. I will! Thanks for your Opinion, and i to am considered from time to time "one Of the Kids"
I love the video of them in the Gym, the tune Smell like Teen Spirit, I think................

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Re: Stones Fans Opinions: Nirvana
Reply #7 - Jan 19^th, 2012 at 9:37pm

Nirvana - loved them. Except for the suicide part. Nevermind was the Never Mind The Bollocks of the 90s. Maybe that's why they called it that. Loved all their videos, especially the one where they alternate between being a cute pop band and drunken rampaging transvestites. Their live TV performances always bordered on anarchy. Remember when Krist Novaselic hit himself in the head with his bass? Their version of In The Pines by Leadbelly is too fucking cool. They knocked Thriller off the top of the charts.

Pearl Jam - never understood the fuss until I saw Eddy Vedder sing "Masters of War" at the Bob Dylan tribute at MSG in '92. When he came out, I was really looking down my nose - the line-up of that show was SO amazing, and I wondered why the hell this KID was there. (It turns out he had offered to roadie just to be with "ten of the twelve apostles" as he put it and was invited to perform by his elders.) As soon as he opened his mouth, everyone was transfixed. You could hear a pin drop. All the hair on my neck stood up. He sounded like he had written the song, or that he was writing it on the spot, and he meant every word. And I hope that you die. And your death will come soon. I will follow your casket. In the pale afternoon.

But still, Pearl Jam songs always lose me. They don't have any hooks. I love to hear them playing cover songs. I even like their version of The Last Kiss, because it seems to be completely un-ironic.

I've never been to one, but I know damn well that their shows are probably religious experiences, judging from that one song I heard Eddy sing. He's the real deal.

Never cared for any of the other grunge bands much, Alice in Chains or what have you. It all sounded pretty much like metal to me. But I think Nirvana was a genuinely great band.

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Sioux Rocks Off Regular Offline Brian Jones---Foundation Stone--Golden Stone Posts: 4,176 Virginia, U.S.A. Gender:	Re: Stones Fans Opinions: Nirvana Reply #8 - Jan 19^th, 2012 at 9:43pm I really liked grunge. I guess it just reminded me of some of the early grungy sounding garage stuff from the 60's... I like Nirvana--really like Pearl Jam and like Alice in Chains as well. Oh. And I'm 59....and a half.
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steel driving hammer Ex Member	Re: Stones Fans Opinions: Nirvana Reply #9 - Jan 20^th, 2012 at 8:19am Nirvana are for kids. Get out kid...
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gimmekeef Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 5,759 Ontario Canada Gender:	Re: Stones Fans Opinions: Nirvana Reply #10 - Jan 20^th, 2012 at 8:26am all good stuff..wish there had been more bands like that to have pushed rock further along...instead we get hip hop and rap shoved down our throats.
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Lil-Brian Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 222 Iron Mountain	Re: Stones Fans Opinions: Nirvana Reply #11 - Jan 20^th, 2012 at 9:34am I really enjoyed The Dum Dum Girls this year on Sub Pop, The Head and the Heart too.
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Brainbell Jangler Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,331 Portland, OR Gender:	Re: Stones Fans Opinions: Nirvana Reply #12 - Jan 20^th, 2012 at 6:49pm steel driving hammer wrote on Jan 20^th, 2012 at 8:19am: Nirvana are for kids. Get out kid... who you callin' kid, Junior?
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Reply #13 - Jan 20^th, 2012 at 8:16pm

Soundgarden probably stands atop 90s bands for me. Nirvana is up there. Always had a soft spot for 3-member bands, too...

I remember seeing Neil Young in the early 90s and had Blues Traveler, Soundgarden AND Pearl Jam as the opening acts. All three were quite good - Soundgarden was the best. I was amazed at how many 'kids' left after Pearl Jam finished! Bet they're kicking themselves, now...

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Reply #14 - Jan 20^th, 2012 at 9:03pm

Here is how it is folks :

1. Nirvana - Great guitar sound. Technically were the first to introduce a grunge sound to the masses. Had catchy tunes ... and were the real deal as far as grunge is concerned but were by no means any sort of legendary group and as well they were severely limited.

2. Kurt Kobain - Tormented soul. Took his music seriously. Hard working at his craft. With that said and all due respect, he is sometimes wrongfully categorized as some sort of "legend" simply because of his demise.

3. Gurnge - Better than the 80's hair band sound. Nice variation of rock. Not to take seriously... and not to last in that vain.

4. 90's music in general from pop to grunge - Pretty decent decade for music. Nothing earth shattering, and certainly not in the league of the late sixties and early seventies era but pretty darn good and enjoyable over-all. Light years better than anything going on right now ..which is basically nothing.

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Sioux Rocks Off Regular Offline Brian Jones---Foundation Stone--Golden Stone Posts: 4,176 Virginia, U.S.A. Gender:	Re: Stones Fans Opinions: Nirvana Reply #15 - Jan 20^th, 2012 at 10:51pm Well, I think there is plenty going on right now. But it sure ain't in mainstream music.... You gotta look for it, but there's a lot of interesting and good stuff out there...IMHO, of course.
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The Wick Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 1,066	Re: Stones Fans Opinions: Nirvana Reply #16 - Jan 20^th, 2012 at 11:47pm Here is how it is folks: 1. With some rare exceptions, Nirvana and most of the other bands from that movement were a bunch of media driven crap that one minute praise Nirvana and the next minute rave about the songwriting skills of Madonna
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Reply #17 - Jan 20^th, 2012 at 11:49pm

Sioux wrote on Jan 20^th, 2012 at 10:51pm:

Well, I think there is plenty going on right now. But it sure ain't in mainstream music.... Wink

You gotta look for it, but there's a lot of interesting and good stuff out there...IMHO, of course. Wink

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I admire your willingness to look for good stuff. But that's the point I was trying to make... in order to find good stuff now-a-days you have to pretty much dig and seek. In the 90's it was much more plentiful, exposed, and it found it's way to you. Today you may find an artist or two every six months you really dig. From 91-95 there was good stuff put out much more frequently by various artists. Now it requires some work to find..

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Reply #19 - Jan 21^st, 2012 at 9:44am

Ian Billen wrote on Jan 20^th, 2012 at 11:49pm:

Sioux wrote on Jan 20^th, 2012 at 10:51pm:

Well, I think there is plenty going on right now. But it sure ain't in mainstream music.... Wink

You gotta look for it, but there's a lot of interesting and good stuff out there...IMHO, of course. Wink

That's absolutely true. But, I am desperate enough to seek out some good stuff!

I found a college-type radio station around there that is exposing me to artists and groups I've previously been unfamiliar with---and I research from there.

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I admire your willingness to look for good stuff. But that's the point I was trying to make... in order to find good stuff now-a-days you have to pretty much dig and seek. In the 90's it was much more plentiful, exposed, and it found it's way to you. Today you may find an artist or two every six months you really dig. From 91-95 there was good stuff put out much more frequently by various artists. Now it requires some work to find..

Ian

That's absolutely true. But, I'm desperate enough to seek out some good stuff!

I found a college-type radio station around here that is exposing me to artists and groups I've previously been unfamiliar with--and I research from there...

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Reply #20 - Jan 21^st, 2012 at 9:57am

The whole grunge thing gave rock a creative boost and forced mainstream radio station that prefer lame middle of the road crap to play a kind of music that they considered 'not suited for the mainstream' for quite a few years. Nirvana was the flag ship of that scene, with two classic studio albums and a great Unplugged disc. I really like a lot of the other stuff: I used to spin Pearl Jam's Ten more often than Nevermind. Man what a great album. Must be one of the best debuts ever.

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Reply #21 - Jan 21^st, 2012 at 12:52pm

Lazy Bones wrote on Jan 20^th, 2012 at 8:16pm:

Soundgarden probably stands atop 90s bands for me. Nirvana is up there. Always had a soft spot for 3-member bands, too...

I remember seeing Neil Young in the early 90s and had Blues Traveler, Soundgarden AND Pearl Jam as the opening acts. All three were quite good - Soundgarden was the best. I was amazed at how many 'kids' left after Pearl Jam finished! Bet they're kicking themselves, now...

I was at this show in Toronto - CN Festival. Soungarden and Neil w/ Booker T & MG's were great.

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uncleson Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,169 USA Gender:	Re: Stones Fans Opinions: Nirvana Reply #22 - Jan 21^st, 2012 at 4:55pm Loved Nirvana, they were a great band. Cobain was great at all that he did musically.
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Zack Rocks Off Regular Offline Chiba Face Rules You Bastards! Posts: 1,729 Dakar Gender:	Re: Stones Fans Opinions: Nirvana Reply #24 - Jan 21^st, 2012 at 6:29pm uncleson wrote on Jan 21^st, 2012 at 4:56pm: Zack wrote on Jan 21^st, 2012 at 6:20am: I prefer The Kinks. So do I! Bless you, uncleson . . .
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