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THE DANCIN WITH MR D VERSION ISNT THE SAME EITHER..SFM AND DANCIN KBFH VERSIONS ARE MUCH BETTER...MASTERS MUST HAVE BEEN TRASHED. Boring post
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I would gladly pay for the flac version, but it appears not to be available in the U.S.??

Might one of you kind souls point me in the right direction. 

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I got it, but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to burn it to disk! Rather pissed really. I can't play it on any device save my PC, and that is tits on a bull useless as far as I'm concerned.



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Reply #103 - Nov 22nd, 2011 at 12:26pm
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Why a Rolling Stones bootleg is one of my albums of the year


Their recent reissues might be rubbish, but 1973 bootleg Brussels Affair shows the Stones at their onstage peak


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One of my albums of the year has just arrived, and it pains me to say it's by the Rolling Stones.


I know, merely mentioning them these days conjures up the acrid smell of their current incarnation, not even a shadow of a ghost of an imitation of their former selves. Moreover, they are maintaining the shameless and unsatisfactory burst of nostalgia that began with last year's Exile on Main Street reissue, presumably to keep the money coming in while they decide whether or not to haul themselves around the planet for yet another tour. The latest superfluous item is this week's re-release of the chronically overrated Some Girls. Fancy some 34-year-old out-takes not even good enough to be included on 1981's odds-and-sods collection Tattoo You, spruced up with new Mick Jagger vocal parts? You really do not.


And so to the online side of their operation. Stonesarchivestore.com has recently been launched, with the standard-issue promises that these days pass for white-knuckle rock excitement: "Unheard music", "rare merchandise", "signed lithographs". But wait! By way of bringing all this to our attention, this new enterprise has begun with the online release of the 1973 live bootleg known as Brussels Affair – put to tape in the well-known R&B heartland that is Belgium, long whispered about as a glimpse of the group at their all-time onstage peak, and put up in fragments on YouTube. Not that anyone seems to have noticed, but it's on sale for what currency converters today put at £4.46, which was enough to tweak my curiosity.


It is, as I half-expected, unimpeachably great: a beautifully recorded, often unhinged 70 minutes during which the Stones manage to sound like the Platonic ideal of a rock band: simultaneously tight, unhinged, absolutely convincing, and gloriously ludicrous. Stones lore has long held that even at their height, they could swing between being awful one night and inspirational the next, and what this recording proves is just how jaw-dropping the latter occasions could be.


At the risk of sounding like the man from Jazz Club, the bass and drums are so wonderfully lithe and interlocked as to sound supernatural. As opposed to his 21st-century habit of just about managing the riffs in between letting loose an open-tuned "clang" once in a while, Keith Richards' rhythm guitar lives up to expectation and drives the whole band, while Mick Taylor's soloing threads itself through the rest of the music with grace and understatement. Mick Jagger, looking back, was at the juncture beyond which lay pantomimic absurdity and a reluctance to sing in what you and I would recognise as English, but everything here is pitched exactly right: in between addressing the crowd in schoolboy French, he growls and hollers to pretty thrilling effect; on the slow songs, he's simply great.


This was late 1973, when Goat's Head Soup had just been released – and, according to retrospective received opinion, the Stones had exited the run of form that stretched from 1968 to 1972. To my mind, this view of things omits how good large swathes of GHS actually were, a point underlined here by versions of Dancing With Mr D, Star Star (or, if you prefer, Starfucker), Angie and Doo Doo Doo Dooo (Heartbreaker). The only shame is the non-appearance of Winter, one of my favourite Stones songs – though Taylor inserts hints of it into a gorgeous 11-minute reading of You Can't Always Get What You Want, so all is well.


So, some concluding thoughts. Leaving aside a disappointing go at Gimme Shelter (which has never worked live, even then), Brussels Affair is better even than 1970's Get Yer Ya Ya's Out – and, unlike that record, apparently unsullied by post-production cheating. It shreds such other Stones in-concert albums as Love You Live, the woeful Still Life, and the even more miserable Flashpoint. Only one mystery hangs over the whole thing: why did they take the best part of 40 years to release it?


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Reply #104 - Nov 22nd, 2011 at 12:29pm
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The journalist sounds like a dick.
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Reply #105 - Nov 22nd, 2011 at 12:39pm
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Hey Riffhard!   Hope things are going well.

Do you have it as a flac or MP3?

Point me in the direction of a flac file and I'll burn it on a disc for you.

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Reply #106 - Nov 22nd, 2011 at 12:58pm
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BILL PERKS wrote on Nov 22nd, 2011 at 8:41am:
THE DANCIN WITH MR D VERSION ISNT THE SAME EITHER..SFM AND DANCIN KBFH VERSIONS ARE MUCH BETTER...MASTERS MUST HAVE BEEN TRASHED. Boring post



They werent. Some songs are from the Brussels Affair bootleg, but most aren't.

Theyve tried to make it more interesting for fans by releasing a combination of both shows, meaning that a lot of the songs are different from what was broadcast. Most of these songs come from the 2nd show.

If they'd simply re-issued the bootleg, most hardcore fans would probably have complained that they already had it anyway.



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Reply #107 - Nov 22nd, 2011 at 1:07pm
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Some Guy wrote on Nov 21st, 2011 at 8:32pm:
I never could quite figure out why the Stones chose to release the turgid, slow as molasses and insomnia-curing Love You Live instead of the Brussels recording, other than the fact that Mick Taylor is blazing throughout and was no longer in the band. The truth is, the 1975-77 Stones had as much in common musically with the 1973 band as the 1972 Dolphins have with their current incarnation.


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As Pdog alluded above, it was legal issues with ABKCO. They couldnt release ABKCO era songs on live albums until 1976. So, they couldnt put out live albums from 1972 and 1973 with songs like JJF, Honky Tonk Women, etc.

That limitation had expired by the time Love You Live came out in 1977. As far as I know, they were allowed to release live performances of the ABKCO songs if they were recorded in 1976, but not if they were recorded any earlier....and thats why the source credits on the cover are inaccurate, as they claim the songs were recorded in Paris 1976 and Toronto 1977.  In reality, not only were there songs from London 1976 on the album, but material from both Toronto and LA in 1975 as well.  Fingerprint File and IORR are from Toronto '75 and Sympathy For the Devil comes from Los Angeles.  'Sympathy' is of course an ABKCO-era track.  It wasnt even PLAYED at any of the four Paris shows in 1976, although they did play it at 4 of the 6 London shows.
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Reply #108 - Nov 22nd, 2011 at 3:09pm
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Riffhard wrote on Nov 22nd, 2011 at 12:22pm:
I got it, but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to burn it to disk! Rather pissed really. I can't play it on any device save my PC, and that is tits on a bull useless as far as I'm concerned.



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ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S ON YOUTUBE ANYWAY. Have you no fucking shame?
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Reply #109 - Nov 22nd, 2011 at 3:24pm
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Riffhard wrote on Nov 22nd, 2011 at 12:22pm:
I got it, but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to burn it to disk! Rather pissed really. I can't play it on any device save my PC, and that is tits on a bull useless as far as I'm concerned.



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i'm assuming you used Google Music... look where the song is, and if you take your cursor over the song title, and head to the right, you will see a small triangle shape, click it, it will you allow you as an option to save to computer...
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Reply #110 - Nov 22nd, 2011 at 3:25pm
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Gazza wrote on Nov 22nd, 2011 at 12:58pm:
BILL PERKS wrote on Nov 22nd, 2011 at 8:41am:
THE DANCIN WITH MR D VERSION ISNT THE SAME EITHER..SFM AND DANCIN KBFH VERSIONS ARE MUCH BETTER...MASTERS MUST HAVE BEEN TRASHED. Boring post



They werent. Some songs are from the Brussels Affair bootleg, but most aren't.

Theyve tried to make it more interesting for fans by releasing a combination of both shows, meaning that a lot of the songs are different from what was broadcast. Most of these songs come from the 2nd show.

If they'd simply re-issued the bootleg, most hardcore fans would probably have complained that they already had it anyway.






I think it's awesome they went and took different songs, in this case, they have expanded my collection... not just repeated it.
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Reply #111 - Nov 22nd, 2011 at 3:54pm
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Pdog wrote on Nov 22nd, 2011 at 3:24pm:
Riffhard wrote on Nov 22nd, 2011 at 12:22pm:
I got it, but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to burn it to disk! Rather pissed really. I can't play it on any device save my PC, and that is tits on a bull useless as far as I'm concerned.



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i'm assuming you used Google Music... look where the song is, and if you take your cursor over the song title, and head to the right, you will see a small triangle shape, click it, it will you allow you as an option to save to computer...


Bravo Pdog! So I guess that I just click the "save as" button? I'm so damned computer stupid it's not funny! All of the programs that I use at work are idiot proof, but alas at home the idiocy reemerges! Thanks for your help!


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Reply #112 - Nov 22nd, 2011 at 6:40pm
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Riffhard wrote on Nov 22nd, 2011 at 3:54pm:
Pdog wrote on Nov 22nd, 2011 at 3:24pm:
Riffhard wrote on Nov 22nd, 2011 at 12:22pm:
I got it, but I'll be damned if I can figure out how to burn it to disk! Rather pissed really. I can't play it on any device save my PC, and that is tits on a bull useless as far as I'm concerned.



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i'm assuming you used Google Music... look where the song is, and if you take your cursor over the song title, and head to the right, you will see a small triangle shape, click it, it will you allow you as an option to save to computer...


Bravo Pdog! So I guess that I just click the "save as" button? I'm so damned computer stupid it's not funny! All of the programs that I use at work are idiot proof, but alas at home the idiocy reemerges! Thanks for your help!


Riffy



It took me getting help off another forum, pass it along... I had to force each file transfer too, before it would DL... I was very anxious too... you should be able to burn using iTunes, it's not my fave, but it works.
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Where are you getting the flac files..?. I only see the option to buy the mp3s...

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You know, I judge this show by the quality of Happy. The version on the bootleg - from the first show, if I'm not mistaken - is probably the finest performance of the song in existence. Keith Richards SOUNDS LIKE HE IS GOING TO DIE. That version of Happy sounds like his last. Every second - every note - is soaked in this unspeakable drama; Keith is screaming his final will and testament to any and all sundry.

On the new release? Well, Happy kicks ass, to sure. But, I dunno... it lacks that edge-of-desperation drama. I wonder what happened in those few, short hours between shows?
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Child of the Moon wrote on Nov 23rd, 2011 at 1:24am:
You know, I judge this show by the quality of Happy. The version on the bootleg - from the first show, if I'm not mistaken - is probably the finest performance of the song in existence. Keith Richards SOUNDS LIKE HE IS GOING TO DIE. That version of Happy sounds like his last. Every second - every note - is soaked in this unspeakable drama; Keith is screaming his final will and testament to any and all sundry.

On the new release? Well, Happy kicks ass, to sure. But, I dunno... it lacks that edge-of-desperation drama. I wonder what happened in those few, short hours between shows?




I'd say the Rambler more than makes up for it though. Pure brilliance! Oh, and Pdog, I got it burned to disk and I somehow managed to get it to transfer to ITunes! Thanks for your help.



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I'M GLAD THEY PUT THIS OUT, BUT THE "DANCIN WITH MR D" FROM THE BOOT IS THE GREATEST (IMO) MICK TAYLOR LEAD GUITAR EVER HEARD AND THIS VERSION IS NOT EVEN CLOSE.SIMILAR TO HAPPY,SOME ENERGY SEEMS TO BE LACKING ON THIS VERSION.
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It's just so damned great! I'm cranking this bitch to 11 and it just keeps going on, and on. The sustain on it is incredible! You can go grab a bite and it's still just...whaaaa, whaaaaa.....


I must say it's the greatest Tumblin' Dice that I've ever heard. Jagger just owns it on that number. Especially near the end when he just ad libs. Starfucker kills it too. Did I mention Rambler?! Damn it's good to be a Stones' fan these days! Or has someone already said that?



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I've been preaching to the unconverted....YCAGWYW and MR ...the greatest 22 mins of live rock EVER recorded.
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Where are you getting the flac files..?. I only see the option to buy the mp3s...




There's google music and stonesarchive... Flacs weren't available in the US not sure if they are now. I paid for mp3's and got the Flacs from Demonoid.
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Child of the Moon wrote on Nov 23rd, 2011 at 1:24am:
You know, I judge this show by the quality of Happy. The version on the bootleg - from the first show, if I'm not mistaken - is probably the finest performance of the song in existence. Keith Richards SOUNDS LIKE HE IS GOING TO DIE. That version of Happy sounds like his last. Every second - every note - is soaked in this unspeakable drama; Keith is screaming his final will and testament to any and all sundry.

On the new release? Well, Happy kicks ass, to sure. But, I dunno... it lacks that edge-of-desperation drama. I wonder what happened in those few, short hours between shows?



I can imagine he smoked some cigarettes, snorted some coke and injected a shot or two of heroin in his ass... probably nodded a bit, had a garbled conversation and drank some whiskey... maybe he at a bite or two, attempted sex... who knows... what's amazing to me is, to hear of his state of mind, before going onstage and then somehow pull off a gig before going back into that state, is amazing...
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Ok..question..how did the Stones know back in 1973 just how long to play this show so that it would just fit on an 80 minute CDR??????? Coincidence or Stonesadamus at work!
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Ok..question..how did the Stones know back in 1973 just how long to play this show so that it would just fit on an 80 minute CDR??????? Coincidence or Stonesadamus at work!


The had already registered an internet domain name in 1970...
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I can't get over Star, Star...never been a huge fan of that song but it's really amazing on Brussels...now FF 5 years to the Texas concert and, well, it doesn't sound like the same band does it Sad
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I can't get over Star, Star...never been a huge fan of that song but it's really amazing on Brussels...now FF 5 years to the Texas concert and, well, it doesn't sound like the same band does it Sad

Not quite the same no. But their is certainly nothing wrong with it either.
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