I think B2B is better than ABB, but that's about it. Every other Stones album is better IMO. It just does not work for me. Love Saint Of Me though. I give that one a spin every now and then.

Their work from 81 onward:
1. Tattoo You
2. Voodoo Lounge
3. Undercover
4. Dirty Work (believe it)
5. Steel Wheels
6. Bridges To Babylon
7. The Album That Must Not Be Named (but I think I just did above).

It was the last time they tried to get ambitious, and for the most part the effort paid off. The one thing that detracts from the album is that it's kind of like parallel solo albums. It was fragmented, like Dirty Work. Mick and Keith were at loggerheads in a way they weren't on Voodoo Lounge.

But the fact that that process yielded Saint of Me and How Can I Stop ultimately makes it hard to argue with.

Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 12:10pm:


True Dat Mister!!

I revisit this one  a couple of times a year. It's not that I hate it or anything, I just never manage to listen to it and not get distracted. To me it feels like they gave B2B a shot at first, realised they were not getting what they wanted and played it safe. The double Keef ballad at the end is too much, the opener and the Mick ballad Already Over Me are songs on autopilot.  But  Saint Of Me is probably their best song this side of Some Girls.

Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2011 at 4:08pm:


Simply a matter of personal preference... to me it sounds like "Let Me Go" re-worked ( after the leftover Dirty Work guitar hook)...and ILOVE LMG!!!

Ironically, I don't get the same reaction from the live version on No Security ( as much)

Mick or Keith don't hold Ronnie back at all on the solo for Too Tight.

Great album.

Gazza wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2011 at 11:05am:


The first time i saw this clip, i realized the OUT OF CONTROL was like a modern day Midnite Rambler...as far as stage production, instrumentals, and song pace...

Always loved the album, from the moment I bought it. I do wish they would attempt something a little more experimental liek it again, but I think I've more or less given up on that notion ever happening. I can't even really say there's a track I plain dislike, either. Juiced is a fantastic groove track guaranteed to offend blues purists, Saint and Out on Control are bona-fide latter-day classics, and Keith's songs are actually all really great (that incudes Flip the Switch, as he pointed out on his book). Gunface is another that I just totally love.

I think I'm going to play it right now, matter of fact.

gotdablouse wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2011 at 6:03pm:


I've always maintained that Waddy's guitar coda at the end of 'Anybody Seen My Baby' is the best thing on the whole album. Absolutely beautiful.

Yep, Oakland was great, can't remember which night I was there out of the four, the third one possibly, best stadium show ever, the excellent row 11 seats Chelskeith had gotten for the UC gang didn't hurt of course!

Quote:

Need to give that another listen, is it the solo part that Keith is playing (miming if that's the case ?) in the video when he's on top of that skyscraper? Huh!

I remember hearing the debut of Anybody Seen My Baby? on local Philly radio and been really pissed that there's a rap part of the song...but I loved everything else about it. Now I love that song. The only song on the album I don't care for is Might As Well Get Juiced.

Heard ASMB on MTV the first time. My roommate at the time was a black guy from Jersey City. He knew the sample right away: "Hey, that's Biz Markie!" He was impressed. I was ... I don't know what. Don't mind it at all now.

gotdablouse wrote on Oct 24^th, 2011 at 6:14pm:



Yep.

The Chrysler Building if my memory serves me well.

From 4:10 on the video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48M1M-0LUJY&feature=related

On the record, it goes on a bit longer - (from 3:46 for the remaining 45 seconds or so)

Just acting in a video. Nothing deceptive about it -- at least no more deceptive than videos are generally.

I hear that Jagger is also lip syncing in the video too...Gazza? 

Mel Belli wrote on Oct 23^rd, 2011 at 12:35pm:


That's a Keith solo.

I'm not a lawyer but I would have to advise against you that that is a Ronnie solo for Too Tight. 

Mel Belli wrote on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 9:48am:


No recess council, you said it's a Keith solo.

I said it's a Ronnie solo.

No big deal.

And Ronnie was on FIRE for that solo for Too Tight.

Mel Belli wrote on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 9:57am:


I'm waiting for the "Steel Driving Hammer Guitar Series" part V before I decide.   

Judge Gazza will return soon for the verdict.

steel driving hammer wrote on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 10:09am:


Tuff call...but IF I had to place a small wager...i would say Woodie and Keith at the VERY VERY end with the fade out

That solo is from Ronnie.

Can't believe you don't know that style twang style of riff from Ronnie - it's so good you don't know what's coming next.

To clarify...Woody in the middle after the mentioned lyrics...and Keith at the end...

again...a small wager...like a latte or shot of rail bourbon...

Where's Gazza?

Mel Belli wrote on Oct 26^th, 2011 at 1:04pm:


Mel, I remember a few years ago on a less prestigious board than this where an astonishingly large group of people thought the guitar on Highway Child was played by Jagger!  So it gets worse than this.

steel driving hammer wrote on Oct 27^th, 2011 at 8:32am:


Don't depend on me.  I'm never right.  Ask my wife.

Maybe mojo knows.

The solo on Too Tight (at the 2 minute mark) is coming mainly from the right channel, which bleeds into the left. I've always associated the right channel with Keith's guitar.  Keith gets my vote, with Waddy a close 2nd. I think if it was Ronnie, they'd mix it to the left channel.

Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Oct 29^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:



I had never seen her or even heard of her before this video.

The beginning is very good indeed, up to the "ahahahahaa" backing vox...then it turns into a good old neo boogie-woogie number like Neighbors, Mean Disposition, etc...they're enjoybale on first listen mind you, but you get tired of them pretty quick.

That Husker Du thing rings a bell from back then. The article was off to a good start but very bad review , the guy grossly exaggerates some aspects (AOMe) and misses SOM and OOC.

1997 was quite year though for the ol'guys, Macca, Dylan, Stones...like 89 had been...both good years for me too incidentally!

Flip The Switch ~ Great opening riff and a tight little tune, I enjoy it!

Anybody Seen My Baby? ~ Essential Stones tune and one of my faves. Love the video with young Angie too.  This was also MICK's intro into 'Rap music' We came to rock for Brooklyn, And Queens, And Manhattan, And The Bronx, And Staten Island, I can't forget

New Jersey

, and Long Island, And all over the world, we came to rock for everybody like this.. Shout to to New Jersey always makes me happy!

Low Down ~ I like it, it speaks a having an honest relationship I know that you won't lie to me, But you hold back the truth

Already Over Me ~ TRULY love this song! I've been hurt, So confused, I've been burned, I've been bruised, Are you already over me, Are you already sick of me

Gunface~ it took me a while to like this one, I'm not into violence and revenge.

You Don't Have To Mean ~ don't like it, because you DO have to mean it or dont say it! Whay bullshit yourself, it makes no sense.

Out Of Control ~ LOVE IT! I remember the first time I saw it played live, MICK builds it up from slow and soft to hard and fast. Yeah this song ROCKS!

Saint Of Me ~ LOVE IT! I thought I heard an angel cry, I thought I saw a teardrop falling from his eye, I thought I saw an angel cry A beautiful image, and a great tune.

Might As Well Get Juiced ~ Sometimes I dont like it and other times I do.

Always Suffering ~ MICK has some sweet vocals on this song but it's not one of my faves.

Too Tight ~ This song is amusing. Instructions to a new girlfriend!If you try to chain me up, I'll vanish like a broken dream

Thief In The Night ~ Absolutely great tune. Great when I saw it played live too. This is a very sweet song, KEEF wants to be with a woman who must be living with another man who, according to KEEF, isnt right for her. He's very persistant in convincing her to let him fvck her! He wont give up and it would be enough to convince me to open up and let him in! OK KEEF! You win!

How Can I Stop ~ Beautiful song. This song is about a KEEF contemplating an affair, but he knows that once it starts, it wont end. So I think what is he saying is it is better not to start at all, for the sake of his marriage. At least he is thinking ahead of the consequences. You tell me baby, Once I've started with you, How could I stop, Once I start  

Bitch wrote on Oct 30^th, 2011 at 8:27pm:


Keith explains the inspiration for the song pretty well in 'Life'...