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Edith Grove Rocks Off Regular Offline Disco STILL sucks! Posts: 12,336 New Orleans Gender:	Re: Hey fans of the Rolling Stones, check this out Reply #2 - Sep 30^th, 2011 at 9:38am Can someone explain why there was so much lip-synching in the early days?
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Reply #4 - Sep 30^th, 2011 at 1:58pm

Edith Grove wrote on Sep 30^th, 2011 at 9:38am:

Can someone explain why there was so much lip-synching in the early days?

Always wondered that too..maybe because the live shows like Ed Sullivan didnt allow time for band setups and bears on bicyccles as well?...maybe a timing thing to insure the song was exactly 2:45????.....or artists (record labels) were afraid to sound different than the single in fear people would not buy it?..orrrrr...the producers didnt want a rocker adding some sexual words etc because back then they did not have the 7 second delay they have now to edit.

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Reply #5 - Sep 30^th, 2011 at 2:03pm

gimmekeef wrote on Sep 30^th, 2011 at 1:58pm:

Edith Grove wrote on Sep 30^th, 2011 at 9:38am:

Can someone explain why there was so much lip-synching in the early days?

Always wondered that too..maybe because the live shows like Ed Sullivan didnt allow time for band setups and bears on bicyccles as well?...maybe a timing thing to insure the song was exactly 2:45????.....or artists (record labels) were afraid to sound different than the single in fear people would not buy it?..orrrrr...the producers didnt want a rocker adding some sexual words etc because back then they did not have the 7 second delay they have now to edit.

I'd say all of the above......unless you were Glen Campbell.

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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef

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Reply #6 - Sep 30^th, 2011 at 7:51pm

I always thought it was because sound just sucked back then...the broadcast ( production) was generally bad and all forced thru a single little speaker on a TV the size of a Buick.
Like stated above...why would a record company want their bands to sound that way? That, and bands weren't really expected to "perform", just show up and look pretty.
But what do i know?

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Reply #7 - Sep 30^th, 2011 at 8:41pm

Paranoid Android wrote on Sep 30^th, 2011 at 7:51pm:

I always thought it was because sound just sucked back then...the broadcast ( production) was generally bad and all forced thru a single little speaker on a TV the size of a Buick.

Then anything coming through the TV would have the same problem, either live or pre-recorded, but you might be on to something here.

In the very early days of television, nearly everything was broadcast live, but I wonder how much live music on those old shows was amplified?
Seems like whenever I see a video of an old music show, I see only acoustic guitar, stand-up bass, etc.
Then along comes rock & roll, the Beatles & Stones, heavy use of electric instruments, but not a lot of improvement in TV sound technology.

Seems reasonable?

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Reply #8 - Sep 30^th, 2011 at 8:43pm

Edith Grove wrote on Sep 30^th, 2011 at 8:41pm:

Paranoid Android wrote on Sep 30^th, 2011 at 7:51pm:

I always thought it was because sound just sucked back then...the broadcast ( production) was generally bad and all forced thru a single little speaker on a TV the size of a Buick.

Then anything coming through the TV would have the same problem, either live or pre-recorded, but you might be on to something here.

In the very early days of television, nearly everything was broadcast live, but I wonder how much live music on those old shows was amplified?
Seems like whenever I see a video of an old music show, I see only acoustic guitar, stand-up bass, etc.
Then along comes rock & roll, the Beatles & Stones, heavy use of electric instruments, but not a lot of improvement in TV sound technology.

Seems reasonable?

Thanks EG...yeah...that is what I was aiming for...but you hit the target straight on!!! That's what I meant by the "production"...It was the Amplification/modulation that was holding things back, IMO, that is

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Reply #9 - Oct 1^st, 2011 at 3:28am

Yeah, those early variety-type shows simply didn't have the technology or the time for live amplified music. Even those mid-1970s shows dedicated to rock & roll used lip-synching a lot of the time (with the notable exception of "In Concert").

You can see by their faces in this segment that the Stones thought it was a joke, but a necessary evil to get their music across to a wide audience.

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