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Reply #25 - Jul 6th, 2011 at 9:10pm
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Factory Girl wrote on Jul 6th, 2011 at 7:35pm:
Question for the lawyers--Can the prosecution appeal the not guilty verdict in a criminal case?  And if yes, will they?

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Hey FG.I'm not a lawyer,I just play one on the internet. Seriously though. As far as I'm aware,double jeopardy applies and the prosecution can not appeal the verdict. The only other ways to try and prosecute Casey would be some type of federal charges or a civil lawsuit. But I don't see where the feds have any case here and the rest of the family isn't likely to sue her. Again,just my best guesstimate from someone who got caught up in this trial a little late and has been hanging on every word since.
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Reply #26 - Jul 6th, 2011 at 9:16pm
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In the United States, the government can never appeal a Not Guilty verdict in a criminal case.

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Reply #27 - Jul 6th, 2011 at 9:27pm
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I was stunned when they found her not guilty of murder, but guilty of lying to the police.  Very odd way for that to come down.

I also don't think this was not a capital murder case.  The prosecution over reached.  No time of death or confirmed manner of death.  Had they gone for second degree murder or negligent homicide - she didn't mean to kill her child, but there was a death that could have been averted - I think the outcome would be different.  Duct tape got on her mouth somehow.  I wonder if Mom didn't tape the baby's mouth shut and accidentally suffocated her.  It would also explain the heart shaped sticker that was found at the scene.  And it just makes more sense from what I've seen of the evidence presented.   That's felony neglect and negligent homicide.  

With only 11 hours deliberation it's obvious the jury just wanted to go home.  They never asked the judge if they could convict on a lesser charge or to review any of the transcripts.  How anyone can draw a conclusion of guilt or innocence after weeks of testimony without reviewing the evidence as presented is beyond me.  One woman on the jury said during selection she couldn't judge people and didn't want to and another male juror flat said he didn't want to be there, period.  JMHO, but I think in high profile cases the idea of finding people who have not heard of the case or not drawn some conclusions is ludicrous.  There must be some leeway there.  Otherwise you end up with ill informed jurors who don't want to do the job.
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Reply #28 - Jul 7th, 2011 at 6:46am
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If this bitch walks today there's gonna be vigilante justice. I think the judge will keep her in jail to avoid violence.
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Reply #29 - Jul 7th, 2011 at 9:17am
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Bitch wrote on Jul 6th, 2011 at 6:57pm:
Some people think the child drowned accidently in the pool and she was scared and was covering it up, but it wasnt intentional murder. I think thats why she got away with it, the actual facts about the way the child died never really came out. I think she just made a series of bad choices compounded it by lying about everything to cover her ass. She lost a child so whatever way it happened that's a living hell that doesnt go away, you live with that pain forever, and if she really did do it, thats even more pain she will carry and endure somehow. I feel sorry for her, no matter what the verdict is she will never have a good normal life, it's ruined.



and if this was the way the DA persued this case, they would've got a conviction for Manslaughter, and probably a 30 year sentence. Instead, a misdemeanor, with most of the time served already... I think all of us seem to agree on one thing, this family is pretty screwed up, and whether involved or not, they are suffering and will suffer til they die... and if any were involved in the childs death, I'm sure the guilt will eat them up. I think a big reason the jury balked, was with no evidence of a murder or pre-meditation, you have the grandfather showing the signs of guily by trying to kill himself. He may have just been depressed, but there was more circumstantial evidence showing he may have been involved in something, with the result of it leading him to attempt to take his life, than Casey doing it. I'm overthinking it... I have a feeling the jury didn't overthink it, they just took the facts and stopped and said, this is where it ends, we can't prove guilt on these charges.
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Reply #30 - Jul 7th, 2011 at 11:21am
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Steel Wheels wrote on Jul 7th, 2011 at 6:46am:
If this bitch walks today there's gonna be vigilante justice. I think the judge will keep her in jail to avoid violence.

She gets out next wednesday. Vigilante justice is just stupid. People need to move on and deal with their own lives.
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Reply #31 - Jul 7th, 2011 at 7:31pm
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jul 7th, 2011 at 11:21am:
Steel Wheels wrote on Jul 7th, 2011 at 6:46am:
If this bitch walks today there's gonna be vigilante justice. I think the judge will keep her in jail to avoid violence.

She gets out next wednesday. Vigilante justice is just stupid. People need to move on and deal with their own lives.


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We'll see what happens.  People are ready to lynch her and her family. I see news reporters outside of her parents house and it's unreal.
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Did someone say....vigilante?

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Reply #34 - Jul 7th, 2011 at 9:47pm
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We'll see what happens.  People are ready to lynch her and her family. I see news reporters outside of her parents house and it's unreal.

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Reply #35 - Jul 8th, 2011 at 10:56am
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Pdog wrote on Jul 7th, 2011 at 9:17am:
Bitch wrote on Jul 6th, 2011 at 6:57pm:
Some people think the child drowned accidently in the pool and she was scared and was covering it up, but it wasnt intentional murder. I think thats why she got away with it, the actual facts about the way the child died never really came out. I think she just made a series of bad choices compounded it by lying about everything to cover her ass. She lost a child so whatever way it happened that's a living hell that doesnt go away, you live with that pain forever, and if she really did do it, thats even more pain she will carry and endure somehow. I feel sorry for her, no matter what the verdict is she will never have a good normal life, it's ruined.



and if this was the way the DA persued this case, they would've got a conviction for Manslaughter, and probably a 30 year sentence. Instead, a misdemeanor, with most of the time served already... I think all of us seem to agree on one thing, this family is pretty screwed up, and whether involved or not, they are suffering and will suffer til they die... and if any were involved in the childs death, I'm sure the guilt will eat them up. I think a big reason the jury balked, was with no evidence of a murder or pre-meditation, you have the grandfather showing the signs of guily by trying to kill himself. He may have just been depressed, but there was more circumstantial evidence showing he may have been involved in something, with the result of it leading him to attempt to take his life, than Casey doing it. I'm overthinking it... I have a feeling the jury didn't overthink it, they just took the facts and stopped and said, this is where it ends, we can't prove guilt on these charges.


I live in the area where the jurors are from and I was hoping I would be called to serve.  Murderers have been convicted with a lot less evidence and these people didn't have the balls to convict her.  The grandfather didn't have anything to do with it....if he did he wouldn't of threatened her friends with a gun to obtain info of Cailey's wherabouts, his suicide note would of alot more remorseful, and he and his wife wouldn't of been filmed in the jail asking Casey for info about the baby's whereabouts...that was not an act.  

When someone dies by accident, the person who was involved acts remorseful, depressed and withdrawn.  When someone is murdered on purpose, the murderer acts with joy...as Casey did by partying and getting inked.  Kind of like that woman who killed her husband and then took her kids to Disney to celebrate.

Even Casey was shocked at the verdict.  Did you see her face?  I think the prosecution had convinced her that she would be going away but the jurors would too afraid to reach that verdict.

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Reply #36 - Jul 8th, 2011 at 2:03pm
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StonesChick wrote on Jul 8th, 2011 at 10:56am:
Pdog wrote on Jul 7th, 2011 at 9:17am:
Bitch wrote on Jul 6th, 2011 at 6:57pm:
Some people think the child drowned accidently in the pool and she was scared and was covering it up, but it wasnt intentional murder. I think thats why she got away with it, the actual facts about the way the child died never really came out. I think she just made a series of bad choices compounded it by lying about everything to cover her ass. She lost a child so whatever way it happened that's a living hell that doesnt go away, you live with that pain forever, and if she really did do it, thats even more pain she will carry and endure somehow. I feel sorry for her, no matter what the verdict is she will never have a good normal life, it's ruined.



and if this was the way the DA persued this case, they would've got a conviction for Manslaughter, and probably a 30 year sentence. Instead, a misdemeanor, with most of the time served already... I think all of us seem to agree on one thing, this family is pretty screwed up, and whether involved or not, they are suffering and will suffer til they die... and if any were involved in the childs death, I'm sure the guilt will eat them up. I think a big reason the jury balked, was with no evidence of a murder or pre-meditation, you have the grandfather showing the signs of guily by trying to kill himself. He may have just been depressed, but there was more circumstantial evidence showing he may have been involved in something, with the result of it leading him to attempt to take his life, than Casey doing it. I'm overthinking it... I have a feeling the jury didn't overthink it, they just took the facts and stopped and said, this is where it ends, we can't prove guilt on these charges.


I live in the area where the jurors are from and I was hoping I would be called to serve.  Murderers have been convicted with a lot less evidence and these people didn't have the balls to convict her.  The grandfather didn't have anything to do with it....if he did he wouldn't of threatened her friends with a gun to obtain info of Cailey's wherabouts, his suicide note would of alot more remorseful, and he and his wife wouldn't of been filmed in the jail asking Casey for info about the baby's whereabouts...that was not an act.  

When someone dies by accident, the person who was involved acts remorseful, depressed and withdrawn.  When someone is murdered on purpose, the murderer acts with joy...as Casey did by partying and getting inked.  Kind of like that woman who killed her husband and then took her kids to Disney to celebrate.

Even Casey was shocked at the verdict.  Did you see her face?  I think the prosecution had convinced her that she would be going away but the jurors would too afraid to reach that verdict.



Why were they afraid to come up with a verdict that the whole world seems to have wanted?.......Seems to me they would be seen a heros now?......
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imo the prosecution's first mistake was going for the death penalty without a "smoking gun" so to speak. if the death penalty hadn't been on the table, i think she would have been convicted of something more than lying to authorities. there was just too much reasonable doubt presented to convict and execute her.

i think it was an accidental death and i think her family lied for her to keep her from the lethal dose. its possible she accidentally drowned in their pool. its also possible, i was impressed with this scenario that someone gave me yesterday: that nanny zanny could be XANAX. that she possibly administered small doses of the drug to the child to get her to sleep and maybe dosed her up too much. they found her dead and disposed of the body to make it look like a kidnapping.

we can't judge her. she has a higher power to answer to.
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Reply #38 - Jul 8th, 2011 at 6:26pm
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StonesChick wrote on Jul 8th, 2011 at 10:56am:
Pdog wrote on Jul 7th, 2011 at 9:17am:
Bitch wrote on Jul 6th, 2011 at 6:57pm:
Some people think the child drowned accidently in the pool and she was scared and was covering it up, but it wasnt intentional murder. I think thats why she got away with it, the actual facts about the way the child died never really came out. I think she just made a series of bad choices compounded it by lying about everything to cover her ass. She lost a child so whatever way it happened that's a living hell that doesnt go away, you live with that pain forever, and if she really did do it, thats even more pain she will carry and endure somehow. I feel sorry for her, no matter what the verdict is she will never have a good normal life, it's ruined.



and if this was the way the DA persued this case, they would've got a conviction for Manslaughter, and probably a 30 year sentence. Instead, a misdemeanor, with most of the time served already... I think all of us seem to agree on one thing, this family is pretty screwed up, and whether involved or not, they are suffering and will suffer til they die... and if any were involved in the childs death, I'm sure the guilt will eat them up. I think a big reason the jury balked, was with no evidence of a murder or pre-meditation, you have the grandfather showing the signs of guily by trying to kill himself. He may have just been depressed, but there was more circumstantial evidence showing he may have been involved in something, with the result of it leading him to attempt to take his life, than Casey doing it. I'm overthinking it... I have a feeling the jury didn't overthink it, they just took the facts and stopped and said, this is where it ends, we can't prove guilt on these charges.


I live in the area where the jurors are from and I was hoping I would be called to serve.  Murderers have been convicted with a lot less evidence and these people didn't have the balls to convict her.  The grandfather didn't have anything to do with it....if he did he wouldn't of threatened her friends with a gun to obtain info of Cailey's wherabouts, his suicide note would of alot more remorseful, and he and his wife wouldn't of been filmed in the jail asking Casey for info about the baby's whereabouts...that was not an act.  

When someone dies by accident, the person who was involved acts remorseful, depressed and withdrawn.  When someone is murdered on purpose, the murderer acts with joy...as Casey did by partying and getting inked.  Kind of like that woman who killed her husband and then took her kids to Disney to celebrate.

Even Casey was shocked at the verdict.  Did you see her face?  I think the prosecution had convinced her that she would be going away but the jurors would too afraid to reach that verdict.



you're talking about appearances, not the law. they are not the same... many a person has gone to jail or been put to death based on what you're talking about, and later found out they weren't guilty... in this case, you're overlooking a huge matter of law in a capital murder case... you have to prove a murder took place to start it off... they could've slam dunked a manslaughter and goven her alot of jail time... as in when she would've gotten out, if ever, she would be old and ugly!
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It's been days now.  America needs a new case to follow.  Nobody's killed anyone in a spectacular manner?  WTF?  I say WTF?
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Why were they afraid to come up with a verdict that the whole world seems to have wanted?.......Seems to me they would be seen a heros now?...... [/quote]

Because of the death penalty.  At least one juror was totally against the death penalty from the get go.  
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you're talking about appearances, not the law. they are not the same... many a person has gone to jail or been put to death based on what you're talking about, and later found out they weren't guilty... in this case, you're overlooking a huge matter of law in a capital murder case... you have to prove a murder took place to start it off... they could've slam dunked a manslaughter and goven her alot of jail time... as in when she would've gotten out, if ever, she would be old and ugly!
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True.  That's what is so frustrating about the system...murderers are let go and innocent people are incarcerated and/or killed.
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Reply #42 - Jul 11th, 2011 at 11:33am
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Why were they afraid to come up with a verdict that the whole world seems to have wanted?.......Seems to me they would be seen a heros now?...... [/quote]

Because of the death penalty.  At least one juror was totally against the death penalty from the get go.  
Saying I wish I had been called was in haste, at the time I was thankful I hadn't been called! [/quote]

Ok..then the error may have been in the way prosecution managed jury selection......venting potential jurors who are 100% against the death penalty should have been don ..if possible......wonder how the jury would have voted if the most seriuos charge was 2nd degree murder and 15- 20 yrs?
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It's been days now.  America needs a new case to follow.  Nobody's killed anyone in a spectacular manner?  WTF?  I say WTF?


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I've got the perfect job for Casey Anthony when she gets out of jail. She can be a nanny for Octomom's kids. Kiss my undercover ass
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I've got the perfect job for Casey Anthony when she gets out of jail. She can be a nanny for Octomom's kids. Kiss my undercover ass


This bitch will Lindsay Lohan her way back into trouble.......over/under is 6 months?
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I have a feeling Casey will be killed. People are fighting other people near the courthouse over this case.
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