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Keith Talks U2, Mick & 2012 In 'USA Today'
May 20th, 2011 at 6:45am
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By Edna Gundersen
May 20, 2011


LOS ANGELES — In Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, opening today, rival corsairs set out to find the mythical Fountain of Youth. On board as Captain Teague for the second time, Keith Richards is braced for the usual cracks about his indestructibility.

He has heard it all, including the post-apocalyptic prophecy that "it'll be me and the roaches left," Richards says with a hoarse laugh, shrugging off his reputation as a wrinkled survivor. "I've become a cartoonish little icon. You've got to be proud of that. If you can't take the pot shots, you shouldn't be in show business."

Richards, 67, gets the last laugh as one of few in showbiz to hold the globe rapt for five decades. The raggedly charming guitarist for the Rolling Stones has crafted indelible riffs, co-written some of rock's finest classics and influenced countless players with his primal, unpretentious style, often while on a rocky and reckless trail of drug habits, legal scrapes, toxic relationships and life-threatening mishaps. (A fall from a tree in Fiji in 2006 required cranial neurosurgery. Residual damage? "A dent, a war wound," he says.)

The unvarnished tale unfolds in his highly praised, best-selling memoir, Life (which peaked at No. 3 on USA TODAY's Best-Selling Books list), freshly out in paperback (Back Bay Books, $16.99). The tone is pure Keef.

The Boston Phoenix asserts, "He writes the way he sings — naked, straight up, heart on sleeve," and The New York Times compares Richards' prose to his guitar playing: "intense, elemental, utterly distinctive and achingly, emotionally direct." The New Yorker declares Life "a slurry romp through the life of a man who knew every pleasure, denied himself nothing and never paid the price."

What led him down a path of decadence and carefree indulgence?

"Everybody out there gave me the license," says Richards, holed up in a hotel suite the day before the Pirates premiere at Disneyland. He's trim in all gray, save his bright turquoise high tops and a patterned scarf tied around a mop of shaggy gray hair. "People want to live vicariously, and they set me up. You want Keith? I'll give you Keith. It may not always be me, but people want to believe it."

Making peace with Mick


Richards' wildest days are behind him. He gave up heroin in 1978 and cocaine after his head injury. He has been happily married to model Patti Hansen since 1983. He's more workaholic than alcoholic, drinking vodka sparingly these days and hustling moonlighting guitar gigs as he maneuvers to reboot the Stones in time to mark next year's 50th anniversary.

That's a ticklish question in light of Life's tough love for Mick Jagger. Richards dwells on the singer's philandering and dictatorial tendencies, calls him "unbearable" and even impugns his manhood.

When Jagger read Life before publication, "the blue pencil was flying," Richards says. "Of course, he had a few issues. I said, 'What am I going to do, lie? After all, Mick, the book ain't about you.' He did give me a hard time throughout life. Trying to bring the man down to earth took a while and took a toll on me. I have great respect for the man. I love him dearly, quirks and all."

When Jagger and Richards, boyhood pals since the early '50s, met in New York a month ago, "Mick pouted a bit, as is his wont," Richards says. "I told him, 'It's water under the bridge. I want to talk about the future. We're larger than a little bitching here and there. It's only rock 'n' roll.' I love working with Mick. Maybe that friction that makes it work, that bit of sand in the oyster that makes the pearl."

The band is plowing through masters of 1978's Some Girls in search of buried gems for a reissue similar to last year's Exile on Main Street. Jagger has a solo album in the works, and Richards has collaborated with Tom Waits and cut tracks with Steve Jordan, key member of his solo band X-Pensive Winos.

"There's a Wino-ish thing in the air," Richards says. "We've got a track or two."

But a monster milestone is looming, and Richards concedes, "Timing is everything." The Stones played their first gig at London's Marquee Club on July 12, 1962. Richards' golden anniversary wish list: a 2012 studio album and world tour.

"Something's blowing in the wind," he says. "The idea's there. We kind of know we should do it, but nobody's put their finger on the moment yet. This is what we have to ask each other: Do we want to go out in a blaze of glory? We can, if Mick and Charlie (Watts) feel like I do, that we can still turn people on. We don't have to prove nothing anymore. I just love playing, and I miss the crowd."

Marking the band's 50th with a blowout tour "does indeed seem logical, even likely," says Ray Waddell, Billboard's senior editor of touring. "If they do, and if they bill it as their last, which they've never done, it will without a doubt be an international blockbuster and a lock to be among the top tours of all time."

U2's 360 tour just surpassed the record $558 million set by the Stones' Bigger Bang tour, and the Irish quartet is expected to gross $700 million before 360 ends in July, according to Billboard Boxscore. It also holds the record for attendance with 7 million tickets sold, pushing the Stones' Voodoo Lounge, with 6.4 million, to second place.

"If they were to pass U2 and reclaim the record gross, it would probably be driven by ticket prices as opposed to attendance, as the unprecedented capacities on 360, as well as the sheer number of shows, is what drove that band's historic numbers," Waddell says. "If the Stones go out, there is no reason they wouldn't command the highest ticket prices in history, at least on the top end. And it would be worth the price."

Can the Stones reclaim the touring crown?

"I don't know and I don't care," Richards sniffs. "So what? U2 made a few mill more, or maybe not by the time the gross is done and you look at the net. Meanwhile, (Broadway's) Spider-Man is going down the tubes. And I don't think they played to 2 million people in Brazil, which we did (in 2006, the largest rock concert ever).

"U2's a good band, so why not? I hope another band eclipses both of us. Bono's an interesting guy. I wouldn't say he's my favorite guy to hang with."

Film is ‘bizarre other world’


He finds Pirates star Johnny Depp more simpatico. Richards joined Disney's franchise at the behest of Depp and plays the father of his character, Jack Sparrow, a wry, mumbling buccaneer largely inspired by the guitarist.

"I get to shoot somebody," Richards says. "It's fun and a change, a bizarre other world. If you're used to rock 'n' roll, books and movies are fairly tame."

The swashbuckling pair became drinking buddies off set, though Richards says he's not the guzzler he was.

"Johnny loves red wine, and I'll drink anything that's available," he says. "If there ain't any around, I don't drink. If I think, 'I can handle this better with a drink,' I'll take it. Compared to the other stuff I did, a drink is gnat's piss."

As for that other stuff, Richards says his pharmaceutical consumption, while copious, was cautious. "I don't recommend it for anybody else," he says, adding with a cackle: "I'm not human, after all. It's not something to emulate. It was done out of innocence."

Not simply an occupational hazard, drugs "helped you make the gig, especially if you're working 350 days a year," he says. "You can't be vegetarian and straight and play rock 'n' roll."

You can be monogamous, Richards discovered. He had three children with Anita Pallenberg and flings with Ronnie Spector and Marianne Faithfull (partly as payback to Jagger for bedding Pallenberg) before settling down with Hansen.

"If you're married to Patti Hansen, you don't want to switch," he says. "She's the most wonderful woman in the world. I love her more every day. If anyone can keep me on the straight and narrow, she's the one."

Hansen survived bladder cancer after being diagnosed in 2007, a scare that sent her usually unflappable husband into a tailspin.

"I didn't handle it that well," he says. "I had to pretend everything's cool because someone has to not freak out, but it was a terrible jolt."

He was less taken aback when the couple's daughter Theodora, 26, was arrested in March for scrawling on a Soho convent wall and possessing marijuana.

"That was a wake-up call for her," her father says. "She went to the tank for the night, didn't say, 'Do you know who my dad is?' She went to court, did her community service. I admire the way she handled it."

Richards is no stranger to the blunders of youth. Writing Life brought those lessons into sharper focus.

"I realized how stupid I could be at times," he says. "What a dummy."

Lasting bond with a guitar


The redeeming love story at Life's core is between Richards and his guitar.

The book, a notch above most rock autobiographies, "is terrific when Richards writes about the music," says Greg Kot, co-author of The Beatles vs. The Rolling Stones: Sound Opinions on the Great Rock 'n' Roll Rivalry.

"That band, that sound was his mission, though it was eventually derailed by heroin. The human relations, they all fell by the wayside, whether it was with Mick Jagger, friends, associates, wives, children. He treats all of them far more blithely than he does the music, which remains sacred."

Life is on the shelf, but Richards' life isn't. Overwhelmed by reaction to the book, he may consider a sequel.

"Not a lot of cats get to be No. 1 on their first bash at it," he says. "I might fill in the gaps later. It's not the Bible, but I didn't realize what a task it would be. You try being Keith Richards twice in one lifetime."

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Edit: "Out-takes" from the interview. Mo' Keef, mo' better!

Richards longs for days before iPods, guitar lessons, 'Idol'


The famously candid Rolling Stone gives us a few more riffs:

On digital sound: "Everyone's being shortchanged. Digital sound is not as good as vinyl. The quality is nowhere near as good as it was with analog. You feel like you're fighting a losing battle against iPods. People now make drumbeats with fingers. I like to see a guy sweat. Music is physical, not mental."

On hip-hop: "I've heard so many cats talk without a drumbeat, and they bore me to death. With a bad drumbeat, it's even worse. It points out millions of tone-deaf people out there. Melody and harmony don't come into it. I mean, I'm a rhythm man myself, but it's not enough."

On modern music: "I hear a lot of new stuff, but I don't listen to it. Down South, there's some great pickers, but mainstream stuff, nah. Nothing inspiring. There are some great chick singers around. Guys? There are too many posers. They don't get real. I don't like American Idol and all these competitions and voting. Hey, you prove who you are on the road and with records. You don't get lucky on a talent show."

On playing guitar: "It's a learning process till the day you die. I feel kind of sorry for the guys who know so much about playing. I pick it up, put my finger in the wrong place and — ah, a song! The accidents, the dissonance. I make sounds. I don't really play guitar. A guitar teacher talking about sixths and ninths and suspended sevenths, I don't understand that. I put my finger there and say, 'How about that?' I work on feel."

On his collection of 500 guitars: "People give them to me. They're in a warehouse that I pay storage on. What I'm slowly trying to do is pass them on to other players or give them to charity. I can't play them all. I play maybe 5%. I've got 10 or 15 that are my workhorses."

On not being invited to the royal wedding: "I wouldn't go near that family. They're very good for England, as long as they bring in the tourist bread. But I have no interest in them at all. Heads of state should be elected. They shouldn't be born into power. I mean, they've got to put up with Charlie before they get to King Willie. And God knows when (Queen) Liz is going to croak."

On the notion of being knighted: "I wouldn't let them near me with a sword. No way."


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Talking about a blaze of glory-that does sound like the last time, doesn't it?
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Nice read - as usual from Ms Gundersen - and encouraging news on the Some Girls and Tom Waits projects (the latter is something I must have missed, as I dont recall hearing about it before..)

I'll take the hot air about studio albums, a tour and them not giving a shit about topping U2 with the proverbial grain of salt though until I see something more than a vague statement of intent from Jagger himself about future Stones activity, not to mention waiting to see the venue sizes and ticket prices for any future tour.

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No sequel - PLEASE!  The out-takes were more interesting to me than the main interview.   Thanks for including them.  The sooner he quits talking about Mick the better. 

As angry as he makes me sometimes, I would never think of Keith as anything close to a cartoonish little icon and I don't believe for a minute he's as comfortable with the notion as he pretends.
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Judging from the lack of comments in the Stones threads...maybe it is over.  Sure hope not.
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Some Guy wrote on May 20th, 2011 at 9:20am:
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Judging from the lack of comments in the Stones threads...maybe it is over.  Sure hope not.

I'm back on board. Let's see, if they do a final tour and bill it as such. They all look great. Plus this little tid bit- Richards' golden anniversary wish list: a 2012 studio album and world tour. Shit, they'll gross 2 zillion dollars. I'm in I'm down.

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Some Guy wrote on May 20th, 2011 at 9:20am:
it's over.


Judging from the lack of comments in the Stones threads...maybe it is over.  Sure hope not.

Well Ginda,we've heard lots and lots(did I say lots) of rumours. Maybe we're all more than a little jaded about all this and want some concrete news. Yes I'd like to see one more tour. But I don't want to see a blaze of glory,this is the last time,bigger,more expensive than ever type of tour. Just go out and play....Yeah that'll happen.
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on May 20th, 2011 at 11:11am:
Ginda wrote on May 20th, 2011 at 11:00am:
Some Guy wrote on May 20th, 2011 at 9:20am:
it's over.


Judging from the lack of comments in the Stones threads...maybe it is over.  Sure hope not.

Well Ginda,we've heard lots and lots(did I say lots) of rumours. Maybe we're all more than a little jaded about all this and want some concrete news. Yes I'd like to see one more tour. But I don't want to see a blaze of glory,this is the last time,bigger,more expensive than ever type of tour. Just go out and play....Yeah that'll happen.

earliest starting time this time next year, meanwhile we need a VH tour.
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Ginda wrote on May 20th, 2011 at 11:00am:
Some Guy wrote on May 20th, 2011 at 9:20am:
it's over.


Judging from the lack of comments in the Stones threads...maybe it is over.  Sure hope not.

Well Ginda,we've heard lots and lots(did I say lots) of rumours. Maybe we're all more than a little jaded about all this and want some concrete news. Yes I'd like to see one more tour. But I don't want to see a blaze of glory,this is the last time,bigger,more expensive than ever type of tour. Just go out and play....Yeah that'll happen.


I'm with you on the blaze of glory, scl.  I think the Stones view of glory and ours might differ.  I don't want a big explosive war horse salute either.  I want to hear them play the BLUES.  And I want them standing still and focusing on what they are playing and singing.  I want them to feel it the way I do.
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Ginda wrote on May 20th, 2011 at 11:00am:
Judging from the lack of comments in the Stones threads...maybe it is over.

With all due respect and sincere best wishes for a speedy recovery to Jeff Conaway, but he might not be the only one in a coma...

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Well, Keith, if you don't like digital audio, guitar lessons, American Idol, etc. get the band together for a 2012 tour. Not a blaze of glory tour, which implies The Last Time, but rather a "This is how it's done you motherfuckers" tour. 

"The Crown Kings of Rock and Roll" was how Solomon Burke described them.

Keep rocking and rolling. Enough with the books and movie roles.

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Does anyone else find it odd that he's talking about Patti keeping him on the straight and narrow?  He claims not to have done coke since 2006. They got married in 83.  He did coke through their entire marriage I guess. How has she been with his drinking and smoking and anger management?

Patti, while I love her, seems to have put up with 30+ years of bad behavior.
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Judging from the lack of comments in the Stones threads...maybe it is over.

With all due respect and sincere best wishes for a speedy recovery to Jeff Conaway, but he might not be the only one in a coma...


Gimmie some tour dates and everybody will wake up. Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?
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Tour dates will make everything better....as long as ticket prices are reasonable. I'm not paying 500 bucks for a floor seat unless Theo is on my lap.
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I'm only excited about Winos, Waits and Some Girls. Nothing about a tour is even exciting me, but if they do tour, and I'm close, I know I'll go, and probably get the feeling back... I definitely won't be going all out like I have before. I still feel like Oakland 2006 was my last show seeing them. i challenge them, to prove me wrong!
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Thanks for posting this.  Keith is great!
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I want a 2012 Stones album.  There's time in the future for overpriced re-issues.
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keith has done well for himslf.  he formed a great side group, The Winos, he is a movie star, and a successful author. not bad.

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Tour dates will make everything better....as long as ticket prices are reasonable. I'm not paying 500 bucks for a floor seat unless Theo is on my lap.


That's funny.  The most I ever paid for a ticket was $150.  Higher than that, I doth not go.  I've never had a floor seat - but not for lack of trying.
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He says they finally met face-to-face a month ago and made up.

"Mick pouted a bit, as is his wont," Richards recalled.

"I told him, 'It's water under the bridge. I want to talk about the future. We're larger than a little bitching here and there. It's only rock 'n' roll'."


read here : http://www.musicrooms.net/showbiz/33653-keith-richards-makes-up-with-pouting-mic...
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Bring on the "U WHO ?" tour !


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What we all need to hear in concert is a groove-filled rendition of Tumblin' Dice to make everything better.
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