chris girard wrote on May 24^th, 2011 at 12:07pm:


You dont think Keith has built a successful life outside of The Rolling Stones? Hes done several albums and toured with The Winos, unlike Mick hes been successful in movies, and hes done recording with numerous artists ranging from Ziggy Marley to George Jones.

Also, blaming Keith for the imagined end of The Stones is a very simple and easy explanation.  Seems to me Mick and Keith's problems with each other are a two way street. I dont think Mick sleeping with Anita, and Keith's retaliation by sleeping with Marianne Faithful helped out their friendship. Sounds to me like sibling rivalry with plenty of fault on both sides.

Nevertheless, Pdog makes a good point above.

uncleson wrote on May 24^th, 2011 at 5:04pm:



Saying Keith hasn't done anything outside The Stones is a joke... Mick has tried often, and failed and a few successes, and I think it was ego driven to be relevant, not to be creative. He was working with Michael Jackson, and teamed up with many pop contemporaries... Keith does music with Jamaicans no one has ever heard of, and creates a buzz around those unknown musicians. Granted, Keith may not be doing as much, but when he does do something, its pretty damn good IMO... I can't say that about Mick, he's left me gringing alot, and I want to like his acting and albums... When Keith did the wIno's, it seemed effortless, while Micks work at the same times has felt forced, like he needs to prove something. I hope Mick is confident. We shall see, I still stand by me idea, they are doing what they have done for the past 25 years before tours and albums... We saw what went on when they were pissed and The Stones were over... Remember,, they did call it off, and made it real clear how they felt... I don't see anything like that, there's so much conjecture. Mick is making an album b/c Keith said he had a small cock? and may not tour over it too... If they don't tour, it's b/c someone is dead or physically unable. At this point, Keith could say anything and Mick can make as many weird side projects as he wants, Stones will still go on, until the graveyard gets them... Search your hearts, not your heads, you know this.. You all are just getting all emotional and impatient and thinking nervous thoughts.

I think we need to face Reality here....... that line makes me chuckle 

I just started reading  "Life"  entertaining so far,How fortunate Keith is to share his tale with all thatare interested-Thanks

Lets just hope "Super Heavy Fusion" will be as good as the "BlackBird Diaries" 

I did a load of clothes on super heavy

uncleson wrote on May 24^th, 2011 at 5:04pm:


In fairness, he made two albums with the Winos and toured with them. The last time they worked together was 18 years ago. He's barely recorded with anyone else in the last decade either. 

Dont really think you can say he's been more successful in movies - Jagger's movie appearances were in roles where he was at the very worst a co-star. Keith's appearances have been brief cameos in a couple of blockbusters which were parts of an already successful franchise. Its not as if the success of the movies had anything to do with his participation. Mick has accomplished more as an actor - to paraphrase Norma Desmond's classic line from 'Sunset Boulevard', he's bigger, but the pictures were smaller....

Some Guy wrote on May 24^th, 2011 at 9:23pm:


That is VERY FUNNY.

I listened to a remake of "Alfie" by  an artist  with a very odd name and Joss Stone was in it along with Mick singing a little, I didn't know if anyone would be interested !?

Rolling Stones Planning Anniversary Concert?

Andrew Vaughan|05.24.2011    Keith Richards has suggested that The Rolling Stones may be playing a 50th anniversary gig next year in England. Their first-ever show as The Rolling Stones (actually The Rollin’ Stones) happened the Marquee Club in London on July 12, 1962.

According to NME, the band have a notion to mark the occasion. Richards told The Sun: “The idea is there. We kind of know we should do it, but nobody’s put their finger on the moment yet.”

The Stones guitarist also said he and Jagger had patched up any differences that arose from Richards’ memoirs, published last year.

“Mick pouted a bit, as is his wont, ” he said. “I told him, ‘It’s water under the bridge. I want to talk about the future. We’re larger than a little bitching.’”

News came out last week that Jagger has been working with a new group, Super Heavy, alongside Eurythmics’ Dave Stewart, Joss Stone, A.R. Rahman and Damian Marley, while Richards has been working with his X-pensive Winos band.

That has to be at least the 4th or 5th different publication to take the same basic quotes and info and turn it into a new story.

The one article did say the Stones hadn't toured and do not have firm plans for the future for 'legal and personal issues.'   Super Heavy taking so long is probably one of the personal issues.

I don't think it's the end of the Stones.  The last few years have been nutty.

Keith takes two years to write his book, in part delayed because of Patti's illness that no one outside the inner circle knew about until well after the fact.  In the meantime he did record with Marsha Hansen, Marianne Faithful, the Dirty Strangers, Tom Waits, new Wingless Angels project, etc. etc.  And the work on Exile.

Ronnie was in the middle of a divorce not long ago.  Can't tour during that because of the money issues with the separation of property/money.  Then he nearly nose-dived with Katia.  Couldn't tour during that mess either.  Thank goodness he has made a marvelous come back.

Mick has been working on Super Heavy and Exile.  I could be wrong on the timing, but didn't his film production company make at least one film in the last three years or so?  He would had to have spent time on that.

Charlie has been doing the boogie woogie gigs.

Then we have the unknown of how much the Cohl/Live Nation lawsuit is really affecting any future plans.  Or given how much money Cohl has lost on the Spiderman musical has affected his ability to promote a tour.  That would cause delays even if the Stones decide to give Cohl the heave ho.

I wish Mick well with Super Heavy.  I'll give it a listen.  I'm not a fan of his solo work for the most part, but this sounds like it won't be the standard stuff.

There is still time to put together a tour/residency/short tour, etc. for next year.  I'm just not hopeful for a new Stones album.  Although, if Some Girls has a bounty of 'new' material available touring behind that project wouldn't be an awful idea.  Most of the world didn't get a show for the Some Girls tour.  Make up for it now.

I know, I know, but I'm trying to be glass half full. 

Nothing new. Happens all the time.
It's the internet. Stories spread like wildfire.
Sometimes they get reported accurately, sometimes they get completely convoluted.

Google "Jagger + Super Heavy" and you'll get pages of links.     
The article at the link Ian posted is just one of those.
At least they cite Rolling Stone as their source...

Making music, super heavy

SUDHA MENON

28 May 2011


What happens when one Stones frontman, one Eurythmics founder, one English soul singer, Bob Marley’s youngest son and India’s most famous film composer AR Rahman come together?

WILL THIS BE another Rolling Stones in the making? We don’t know if the magic of that vintage sixties band can ever be replicated but with the band just an year away from its fiftieth anniversary, the rumour mills were agog last week with news that the legendary Rolling Stones front man was all set for the next phase of his checkered life and is in the final stages of announcing an all-new band that would be way different from his gang of boys from back then.

While Mick Jagger initially dismissed the rumour as too premature, saying that it was just a group of music-lovers jamming and trying to create a new type of music, it was music’s new discovery, the “Mozart of Madras”, AR Rahman, who let the cat out of the bag, through, what else, but Facebook?

Rahman’s post on Facebook titled “and Super Heavy is born”, gave away all the details of the new venture. “Eighteen months ago Dave Stewart, Mick Jagger, Damian Marley, Joss Stone and me experimented at a studio in Los Angeles...We had a couple of more sessions...and presently we have aro-und 16 to 18 songs...all have a world sound by contributions from all of us. Dave’s and Mick’s incredible musicality and Joss’ soul singing, Marley’s Jamaican influence and me bringing musicality from my world,” Rahman wrote.

“It’s a bit odd,” Jagger said recently. It’s certainly a motley crew: one Stones frontman, one Eurythmics founder, one English soul singer, plus Bob Marley’s youngest son and India’s most famous film composer. Jagger has promised that Super Heavy’s music is the kind that fans “will find most of it accessible”.

Super Heavy was Stewart’s idea, inspired by the sounds washing into his home in St Ann’s Bay, Jamaica. “I’d hear three sound systems all playing different things,” he said. “I always love that, along with Indian orchestras. I said to Mick, ‘How could we make a fusion?’” They started brainstorming and making phone calls and, six months later, Stewart, Jagger, Stone, Marley and Rahman converged in a Los Angeles studio for the initial trials to find their own rhythm.

We don’t know about the others in the group but we are mighty proud of Rahman, the  earnest young man who sings his heart out and makes heavenly music. A movie called 'Roja' catapulted him to a national level musician. That set the pace for a great body of work but somewhere, the freshness of his work began to fade a bit and the man who pushed the envelope continually found comfort in churning out predictably Rahman kind of stuff.

It took a 'Slumdog Millionaire' to give him his groove back and to get him a global audience and fan base that he richly deserves. His music is the kind that works beyond geographical boundaries and it is perhaps this quality that attracted Jagger to him, leading him to be part of the band.  That and possibly the fact that he is also known as the world’s most prominent and prolific music composer, a man who is film composer, record producer, musician, singer and philanthropist, all rolled into one and the winner of two Academy Awards, two Grammy Awards, a BAFTA Award, a Golden Globe and four National Film Awards.

Rahman’s work is a master stroke of integration — he skillfully fuses eastern classical with electronic music sounds, world music genres and traditional orchestral arrangements and that is perhaps also what got him Jagger’s attention — the latter is a well-known lover of Indian music.

The new band will be a motley bunch of talented people but with four vocalists around, Jagger will get to do other stuff including playing guitar and a producing lots of “high energy” mouth organ. The music is informed by all of the band’s contributors, ranging “from reggae to ballads to Indian songs in Urdu”.

The record is rumoured to be ready to go and negotiations are supposed to be underway with major labels. We hear September is D-day for the new band. Watch this space...

Khaleej Times

Some insight on another of Super Heavy's members.

Slightly skewed perhaps, since the author claims that Rahman was first to confirm the rumors...