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If not Ronnie, who?
Apr 9th, 2011 at 3:50pm
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Let's say this is 1974. Mick Taylor's just left. Out of all the possible contenders and guitarists around, who would you have picked if Woody wasn't available?

I'd love to have seen what Peter Frampton (I heard he auditioned, not sure if true), Eric Clapton or Jimmy Page could've done with the Stones. I  know the latter two weren't contenders, but still.
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Geoffrey Arnold Beck would have my vote.
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I never heard Peter frampton was a contender, Clapton is like Rory Gallagher (who I heard was considered, but turned it down) a band by themselves & wouldn't fit in a already established band content, their lead players & wouldn't want to do all Stones songs, Ronnie was the best choice, he blends in with the look too, although at the time I thought they would pick a blond haired guitarist, Peter frampton would fit in allright, he did a whole Bowie tour & took a back seat to him.
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Heart Of Stone wrote on Apr 9th, 2011 at 4:55pm:
I never heard Peter frampton was a contender, Clapton is like Rory Gallagher (who I heard was considered, but turned it down) a band by themselves & wouldn't fit in a already established band content, their lead players & wouldn't want to do all Stones songs, Ronnie was the best choice, he blends in with the look too, although at the time I thought they would pick a blond haired guitarist, Peter frampton would fit in allright, he did a whole Bowie tour & took a back seat to him.



Myth. The only guitarist who was formally offered the job was Ronnie Wood. Rory's brother has claimed that Gallagher 'turned them down', but its probably more a case of wanting to add to his legend a bit.

The only other serious contenders were Mandel and Perkins.
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According to Bill, they considered asking Jimmy Page to join when Brian first started to become a problem circa 1965.
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Gazza wrote on Apr 9th, 2011 at 6:57pm:
Heart Of Stone wrote on Apr 9th, 2011 at 4:55pm:
I never heard Peter frampton was a contender, Clapton is like Rory Gallagher (who I heard was considered, but turned it down) a band by themselves & wouldn't fit in a already established band content, their lead players & wouldn't want to do all Stones songs, Ronnie was the best choice, he blends in with the look too, although at the time I thought they would pick a blond haired guitarist, Peter frampton would fit in allright, he did a whole Bowie tour & took a back seat to him.



Myth. The only guitarist who was formally offered the job was Ronnie Wood. Rory's brother has claimed that Gallagher 'turned them down', but its probably more a case of wanting to add to his legend a bit.

The only other serious contenders were Mandel and Perkins.


What a way to kill a thread...LOL
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Gazza wrote on Apr 9th, 2011 at 6:57pm:
Heart Of Stone wrote on Apr 9th, 2011 at 4:55pm:
I never heard Peter frampton was a contender, Clapton is like Rory Gallagher (who I heard was considered, but turned it down) a band by themselves & wouldn't fit in a already established band content, their lead players & wouldn't want to do all Stones songs, Ronnie was the best choice, he blends in with the look too, although at the time I thought they would pick a blond haired guitarist, Peter frampton would fit in allright, he did a whole Bowie tour & took a back seat to him.



Myth. The only guitarist who was formally offered the job was Ronnie Wood. Rory's brother has claimed that Gallagher 'turned them down', but its probably more a case of wanting to add to his legend a bit.

The only other serious contenders were Mandel and Perkins.


Thanks Gazza for clearing this up, I was told this by a Irishman (about R. Gallagher) who is for everything that's Irish.
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Reply #8 - Apr 10th, 2011 at 2:57pm
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SORRY I can think of anyone, Oh maybe Jeff Beck, Oh no! not you again but that don't fit either, James Burton,  Oh no! not you again No that don't fit at all, Nope Ronnie was the Best Fit, Ouch! Maybe the only fit!  really?Then again That's easy since that's the one they choose!
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Heart Of Stone wrote on Apr 10th, 2011 at 7:45am:
Gazza wrote on Apr 9th, 2011 at 6:57pm:
Heart Of Stone wrote on Apr 9th, 2011 at 4:55pm:
I never heard Peter frampton was a contender, Clapton is like Rory Gallagher (who I heard was considered, but turned it down) a band by themselves & wouldn't fit in a already established band content, their lead players & wouldn't want to do all Stones songs, Ronnie was the best choice, he blends in with the look too, although at the time I thought they would pick a blond haired guitarist, Peter frampton would fit in allright, he did a whole Bowie tour & took a back seat to him.



Myth. The only guitarist who was formally offered the job was Ronnie Wood. Rory's brother has claimed that Gallagher 'turned them down', but its probably more a case of wanting to add to his legend a bit.

The only other serious contenders were Mandel and Perkins.


Thanks Gazza for clearing this up, I was told this by a Irishman (about R. Gallagher) who is for everything that's Irish.



Rory has pretty much been elevated to God-like status throughout Ireland amongst music fans over 50.

Was never a big fan of his records, but he was a truly wonderful musician and an even finer human being.

Sometimes the legend overshadows the reality at times, though.
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I think Ronnie was the perfect fit for numerous reasons, although Perkins and Cooder did some great work with the Stones.
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speaking of Rory, here is a new DVD coming out.

Rory Gallagher's Irish Tour '74 Gets the Works
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"Rory was the one to measure yourself against. To be able to play like that with such intensity was awesome and really the only other guitarist that had that ability was Hendrix."  - Peter Frampton

Rory Gallagher’s Irish Tour ’74, a stunning document of extraordinary blues-rock power from one of the world’s greatest guitarists of all-time, will be released to CD, DVD, Blu-Ray and double-disc vinyl on April 12.

Captured at a time when Gallagher was voted the number one guitar player by Melody Maker magazine, Irish Tour is a brilliant showcase of his musical prowess. Award-winning filmmaker Tony Palmer followed Gallagher around Ireland as audiences went wild night after night. The film—which enjoyed a successful run in theaters—has been beautifully restored and remastered from the original footage, and is making its Blu-Ray debut.

The two-hour DVD/Blu-Ray features nine jams—“Walk On Hot Coals,” “Tattoo’d Lady,” “Who’s That Coming,” “A Million Miles Away,” “Going To My Home Town,” “Cradle Rock,” “As The Crow Flies,” “Hands Off” and “Bullfrog Blues”—as well as bonus home movie footage from Gallagher’s Japanese tour of the same year. Also on the DVD/Blu-ray is the 1972 RTE (Irish television network) half-hour documentary “ Rory Gallagher: Music Makers.” Highlights on this rare gem include “Toredown,” “Laundromat,” “Pistol Slapper Blues,” and “Don’t Know Where I’m Going.”

Regarded as one of the greatest live albums of all time, the Irish Tour CD/vinyl captures Gallagher’s exceptional playing, sans overdubs and studio fixes. The sound is raw, real Rory. The CD’s 10 tracks are “Cradle Rock,” “I Wonder Who,” “Tattoo’d Lady,” “Too Much Alcohol,” “As The Crow Flies,” “A Million Miles Away,” “Walk On Hot Coals,” “Who’s That Comin’,” “Back On My Stompin' Ground” and “Maritime.” The vinyl is a double-album. Side A has “Cradle Rock,” “I Wonder Who” and “Tattoo’d Lady.” Side B has “Too Much Alcohol,” “As The Crow Flies” and “A Million Miles Away.” Side C has “”Walk On Hot Coals” and “Who’s That Comin’.” Side D has “Back On My Stompin’ Ground” and “Maritime.”

Gallagher (1948-1995) is as popular now,16 years after his death, as he ever was. His original band Taste, formed in 1967, was a power trio that stretched the limits of what electricity could do to the blues. From his first solo album in 1970 throughout the rest of his tragically shortened life at age 47 due to complications of a liver transplant, his music has inspired millions with its refusal to pander to trends or even radio. Turning down an offer to join the Rolling Stones, Gallagher was passionately and religiously dedicated to his craft and his singular style. Artists as diverse as Slash, Brian May, The Edge, Glenn Tipton (Judas Priest), Janick Gers (Iron Maiden) and many others have cited him as a major influence.

Following on the heels of 2010's popular feature documentary, Ghost Blues, the April 12 multi-format release of Irish Tour '74 triggers a 2011 bonanza for the legion of Gallagher fans worldwide as Eagle Rock Entertainment plans a busy year for the restoration, re-release and re-mastering of Gallagher’s entire catalog.
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Heart Of Stone wrote on Apr 12th, 2011 at 5:05pm:
speaking of Rory, here is a new DVD coming out.

Rory Gallagher's Irish Tour '74 Gets the Works
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"Rory was the one to measure yourself against. To be able to play like that with such intensity was awesome and really the only other guitarist that had that ability was Hendrix."  - Peter Frampton

Rory Gallagher’s Irish Tour ’74, a stunning document of extraordinary blues-rock power from one of the world’s greatest guitarists of all-time, will be released to CD, DVD, Blu-Ray and double-disc vinyl on April 12.

Captured at a time when Gallagher was voted the number one guitar player by Melody Maker magazine, Irish Tour is a brilliant showcase of his musical prowess. Award-winning filmmaker Tony Palmer followed Gallagher around Ireland as audiences went wild night after night. The film—which enjoyed a successful run in theaters—has been beautifully restored and remastered from the original footage, and is making its Blu-Ray debut.

The two-hour DVD/Blu-Ray features nine jams—“Walk On Hot Coals,” “Tattoo’d Lady,” “Who’s That Coming,” “A Million Miles Away,” “Going To My Home Town,” “Cradle Rock,” “As The Crow Flies,” “Hands Off” and “Bullfrog Blues”—as well as bonus home movie footage from Gallagher’s Japanese tour of the same year. Also on the DVD/Blu-ray is the 1972 RTE (Irish television network) half-hour documentary “ Rory Gallagher: Music Makers.” Highlights on this rare gem include “Toredown,” “Laundromat,” “Pistol Slapper Blues,” and “Don’t Know Where I’m Going.”

Regarded as one of the greatest live albums of all time, the Irish Tour CD/vinyl captures Gallagher’s exceptional playing, sans overdubs and studio fixes. The sound is raw, real Rory. The CD’s 10 tracks are “Cradle Rock,” “I Wonder Who,” “Tattoo’d Lady,” “Too Much Alcohol,” “As The Crow Flies,” “A Million Miles Away,” “Walk On Hot Coals,” “Who’s That Comin’,” “Back On My Stompin' Ground” and “Maritime.” The vinyl is a double-album. Side A has “Cradle Rock,” “I Wonder Who” and “Tattoo’d Lady.” Side B has “Too Much Alcohol,” “As The Crow Flies” and “A Million Miles Away.” Side C has “”Walk On Hot Coals” and “Who’s That Comin’.” Side D has “Back On My Stompin’ Ground” and “Maritime.”

Gallagher (1948-1995) is as popular now,16 years after his death, as he ever was. His original band Taste, formed in 1967, was a power trio that stretched the limits of what electricity could do to the blues. From his first solo album in 1970 throughout the rest of his tragically shortened life at age 47 due to complications of a liver transplant, his music has inspired millions with its refusal to pander to trends or even radio. Turning down an offer to join the Rolling Stones, Gallagher was passionately and religiously dedicated to his craft and his singular style. Artists as diverse as Slash, Brian May, The Edge, Glenn Tipton (Judas Priest), Janick Gers (Iron Maiden) and many others have cited him as a major influence.

Following on the heels of 2010's popular feature documentary, Ghost Blues, the April 12 multi-format release of Irish Tour '74 triggers a 2011 bonanza for the legion of Gallagher fans worldwide as Eagle Rock Entertainment plans a busy year for the restoration, re-release and re-mastering of Gallagher’s entire catalog.
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i have read that cardinal fang was offered the job.
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