We got another rabbit coming. I don't care what anyone says we love them fuckers. 

[quote author=Gazza link=1295761309/0#23 date=1295961031]>Well Five albums (Stripped had some live in the studio stuff and was an acoustic album).


Um..the studio material for Stripped was recorded in five days.

Your right. ... but it is an album...

>Yeah ... I know.... that's not much being as it is 25 years. But I'm talking everything collectively not simply albums. How many singles...

Huh? Theyve spent a lot of time working on singles in the last 25 years? Have I missed something?

No I m just saying. They have released singles. Jump On Top Of Me... High Wire .... Don't Stop ...plus the other tunes on Forty Licks (not to mention Sex Drive etc.). I know ...your taking this as a literal conversation... which is fine in many topics. But I am looking at the big picture on this one. They write together, tour together, rehearse together... etc. etc. Much more with each other than anyone eles. Sure they are not closely knit as they once were. This is a different era. They are older now. Still though ... There is a bond in which Mick Jagger knows Keith Richards and Keith Richards knows Mick Jagger better than anyone. They are in a sense "stuck" with each other but to contrary ... if it came down to it... they would have to admit they would rather be stuck with no other person.

Remember in Forty Licks when Mick and Keith were separated and then when the band was to reconvene Mick came in and Keith was there. Mick went over to him and they shook and swung each others hand and laughed and grinned at each other as in saying "yeah ...here we go again on another one". Mick then purposefully sat right next to Keith on the couch. He did this it looked as if to say "yeah we are different, we had our fights, and we may have more, you do your thing and I do mine but you know ...it's all good. Your still my side kick and I'm yours".

>how many gargantuan tours? (not to mention tour rehearsals ) A couple movies...


what movies? Their movies are filmed during concert tours and then put together by other people afterwards!!

*I'm just saying they have been involved on projects together. Talking in the same room, talking to each other... you know...

>press conferences.... everything.


You're seriously counting press conferences? Things that last about an hour every four years?

Well yes because they are involved in it together guy. Picking each other up and laughing about. Putting it together with the rest of the band and their people. Again I am not looking at this in such a "literal" sense. I am looking at the big picture. The being they are in a band together. They have shared the same  house, the same studio, they eat together etc. etc. They have to like one another.



>We are talking spending ALOT of time working together... side by side.


Over 25 years? No. We're not. Really.



> I know Gazza ... but sitting down and writing and recording an album intimately,


something they dont do anywhere near as much as you believe - but thats another discussion

> rehearsing a tour, and traveling around the world in these year and a half long tours with someone whom you really don't care for would be extremely difficult ...especially time and time again.


Its not difficult if you're only obliged to see them for two hours at a time on about 60 nights on a year when they happen to be on these 'long tours'. On any tour there are more days when they dont have a gig than there are that they do have one.

-Your right in that they are not ALWAYS buddy-buddy. They have their spats on tour and off but they work through it. On BTB recording and tour they were not seeing 100% eye to eye but you know they played their music and worked it out.



>I know you never said this, but if the two really didn't like each other much that notion would be extremely hard to pull off ESPECIALLY with how big those two's ego's are. I can't see it. Sure, they are not as tied together as they once were. But they are bonded for life, they are still quite connected, and although each can naw at the other in ways that nobody eles can to one another ....they are still close partners / mates.

Thats fair enough. Well, partners - yes. Maybe its like having a long distance brother whom you only see every once in a while. You're bonded together, even though you may not be close.

-No wrong. Mick and Keith are very very close. Too close. So close they are like man and wife or something?? So close that only they know how each of the other ticks and they get under each of each others  skin like nobody can. Still they are close.

I got a call from a female friend last night. She is moving. I don't talk to her much but we used to see each other all the time and hang out all the time. We were close and we still are. We don't see each-other but once every few years, we may even go a year without speaking but we are still "close".

Same is true with Mick and Keith.


>Your right Gazz... I should of stopped and thought more before typing that. However in the examples you gave their ego's were not on the same playing field as Mick and Keith.

With respect, how can you say that with any degree of authority? We dont know any of these people.

Geesh... we don't have to guy. Ask anyone that has been around them. I don't mean they are "mean", "snippy" or think they are "above" everyone in saying they have ego's. I mean they are too proud at times and never expose themselves. They walk a proud line is all I meant and they will not show their inner self or want to be the one to give in. We all know that. Look at them. Ask people who know them.


Ian

You are really shitting on Ian's Corn Flakes.

Round 18 goes to Gazza.

I don't know anyone who has been successful in a band for a long time with their best friend/s and hasn't had that friendship dramtically altered... it's truly a love hate thing... most artists can't even stand themselves, that's why they abuse drugs and booze and have sex lives that are like roman orgies. If you really think about it, step back and look at it, Mick and Keith are close, considering everything after all these years. Despite our want of more albums and a new tour... that's just my 2 cents....

Sorry I don't feel as though Mick and Keith dislike each other...

Call me crazy... but for two people who dislike each-other so much they sure plan alot of outings together... and guess what ...these outings start with them... They aren't brought together by others it starts with Mick calling Keith. They meet, write and record an album... rehearse a tour ....and go on year and a half long jaunts around the world every three or four years...

Sorry I don't feel the two dislike each other... Mick disliked Allen Klein... Keith dislikes Elton John and some reporter it seems...

That is more realistic. Lets see Mick write and record an album with Alen Klein. I want to see Keith tour for two years with Elton John.... it couldn't happen it was a feasible reality.

Is it a "love-hate" thing like pdog coined it... kinda but now-a-days the hate thing is more a big irritation verse any hate...

Do they dislike each-other deep down? No... they care for one another because they have that bond. Is their relationship perfect .... well no. Well all know that... But do they actually "dislike" each other or whatever? .... come on...isn't that a bit over blown and over stated...

Keith was asked it point blank a few years ago.... his answer was it is a "very deep friendship". What more does one need? There's your answer right there. Nuff said...


Ian

Gazza wrote on Jan 26^th, 2011 at 7:02am:


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You didn't. Some folks opinions indicated it without really "saying" it is all. I understand what your saying. I think the meaning of the "closeness" they have is the main issue here. To me being "close" to someone means is if their is a sort of "bond".  I don't base it on the amount of time two people spend together so much. I don't base it so much on if they are consistently talking to one another on a regular basis. We all know that during Rolling Stones off time Mick and Keith don't talk much at all. The only time they do spend alot of time together is on Rolling Stones projects (as we all know). They do that on and off over the years and they have so much history together and they understand each other so well and they genuinely care for one another. See the Shine a Light video where they kinda hug or whatever and share the same mic. Sure, they did it for the camera because they don't like to expose that side to each other much anymore and The Stones the two of them are in a different era now. It's not 1972 anymore. Still the basis and feelings are there. To me "close" is a bond and an understanding not a record on the amount of minutes they spend together each day or the amount of days two people share together each year. I know they are not side by side, spending the whole time together even in Rolling Stones off time any more. In Rolling Stones off time they don't speak hardly at all... basically only when necessary. They are not inseparable like they were in 66-68. Now-a-days and for a long while they give each other space. Still they share the same feelings, thoughts (well ..for the most part hah), and there is that everlasting bond between them and when they do get together they can basically pick up as if no time has passed. That is my definition of "close". That's my take on their situation anyway.


Ian

Gazza and Ian are 'close'.

Ian Billen wrote on Jan 25^th, 2011 at 11:36pm:

Your crazy.....Just kidding Ian. We all appreciate your passion for the Stones.

Gazza wrote on Jan 26^th, 2011 at 10:13am:

Give that man some rim!

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jan 26^th, 2011 at 9:35am:




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Thank You Sir. Yazzum.

Gazza wrote on Jan 26^th, 2011 at 10:13am:


Thanks boss.

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