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Congresswoman Giffords and others shot in Arizona.
Jan 8th, 2011 at 2:06pm
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Gabrielle Giffords, a congresswoman from Arizona, was shot and killed today, January 8, 2011, at a public event outside a Safeway grocery store.

A spokesman for the Pima County sheriff says that at least 12 people were shot, with at least 6 fatalities. The Tucson Citizen reports that Rep. Giffords was "shot point blank in the head."

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Reply #1 - Jan 8th, 2011 at 2:12pm
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TUCSON, Arizona (Reuters) – Representative Gabrielle Giffords of Arizona was shot point blank in the head by a man who opened fire indiscriminately at a constituency meeting in Tucson, U.S. media reported on Saturday.

Giffords, a 40-year-old Democrat in her third term in Congress, was airlifted to a hospital in Tucson shortly after the shooting at a Safeway supermarket in the Arizona city.

"She is currently in surgery. She's alive," University Medical Center spokeswoman Darci Slaten told Reuters. Slaten added that nine other shooting victims were being treated at the hospital.

NPR, citing the sheriff's office in Pima County, Arizona, initially reported that Giffords and six others had died in the shooting, though it later said there were conflicting reports.

Fox News reported that between 12 and 15 people were shot.

Giffords was hosting a "Congress on Your Corner" event -- public gatherings to give her constituents a chance to talk directly with her -- when attacked from about four feet away, NPR said.

The report said the suspect tried to run away but was tackled by a bystander and was in police custody.

Re-elected in the November 2 election, Giffords has focused on immigration reform, military issues, stem cell research and alternative energy while serving in Congress. She is married to U.S. astronaut Mark Kelly.

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Reply #2 - Jan 8th, 2011 at 2:13pm
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I just listened to the hospital spokesperson saying (on live TV) the Representative in in surgery, but in critical condition.

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Reply #3 - Jan 8th, 2011 at 2:29pm
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she was on one of Palins "hit lists".

it is possible to get other people fired up and mad enough to do this for you.... Hitler never once as far as I know, said he wanted to kill millions of Jews before or during the War... I beleive he only made reference to it, during his final speech... and I'm not saying Palin is Hitler...  I do think she is very calculating and manipulative, and knows exactly what is going on, and is inciting extremists with her talk. This isn't political because she quit politics to talk... and she isn't responsible for this event, it pisses me off, she created a hit list, and she openly talks of gun rights with zero responsibiltiy and has encouraged people to take drastic action. I'm looking forward to her Twitter response on this...
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Latest report is that the congresswoman is "responsive to doctor's commands."
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I saw this quote concering the shooting today, very true.


Palin, Beck: *THIS* is what happens when you actually put literal crosshairs on congresspeople and tell your listeners to exercise their 2nd amendment rights
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chris girard wrote on Jan 8th, 2011 at 3:33pm:
I saw this quote concering the shooting today, very true.


Palin, Beck: *THIS* is what happens when you actually put literal crosshairs on congresspeople and tell your listeners to exercise their 2nd amendment rights



and that isn't all they say too... Becks talks of things that depict end of world scenarios and apocalyptic outcomes. He not only scares people, when he talks of revolution and how people need to respond to what he deems as threats, he uses a multitude of words that have violent tones... whether or not these people belive in or against these shit stirring types doesn't matter... the hostile envoirment exists and the flames are being fanned.
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Reply #8 - Jan 8th, 2011 at 3:53pm
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chris girard wrote on Jan 8th, 2011 at 3:33pm:
I saw this quote concering the shooting today, very true.


Palin, Beck: *THIS* is what happens when you actually put literal crosshairs on congresspeople and tell your listeners to exercise their 2nd amendment rights


Alternately -

DHS wants to expand their "administrative searches" past the airports and into more public spaces.

The makers of the strip search machines are lobbying Congress hard. They would love to sell even more of them.

Their is a small but meaningful resistance in Congress.

The last line of defense in favor of our freedom and 4th Amendment rights is the federal judiciary.

A congresswoman was shot and a federal judge was killed in a SUPERMARKET.

Some day "If you don't like it, don't fly" will become "if you don't like it don't eat."
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Reply #9 - Jan 8th, 2011 at 3:59pm
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ijwthstd wrote on Jan 8th, 2011 at 3:53pm:
chris girard wrote on Jan 8th, 2011 at 3:33pm:
I saw this quote concering the shooting today, very true.


Palin, Beck: *THIS* is what happens when you actually put literal crosshairs on congresspeople and tell your listeners to exercise their 2nd amendment rights


Alternately -

DHS wants to expand their "administrative searches" past the airports and into more public spaces.

The makers of the strip search machines are lobbying Congress hard. They would love to sell even more of them.

Their is a small but meaningful resistance in Congress.

The last line of defense in favor of our freedom and 4th Amendment rights is the federal judiciary.

A congresswoman was shot and a federal judge was killed in a SUPERMARKET.

Some day "If you don't like it, don't fly" will become "if you don't like it don't eat."


this wasn't a random act, they were targeted for assisination. Maybe they saying "if you don't want to be killed, do not get into public service"!
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So what are you scared of, if you not carrying anything illegal then it becomes another pain in ass that one has to endure. Some airports are exploring private security and getting rid of TSA. If it becomes too difficult to travel, then people will bitch enough that the politcans will step in and really fuck things up.






ijwthstd wrote on Jan 8th, 2011 at 3:53pm:
chris girard wrote on Jan 8th, 2011 at 3:33pm:
I saw this quote concering the shooting today, very true.


Palin, Beck: *THIS* is what happens when you actually put literal crosshairs on congresspeople and tell your listeners to exercise their 2nd amendment rights


Alternately -

DHS wants to expand their "administrative searches" past the airports and into more public spaces.

The makers of the strip search machines are lobbying Congress hard. They would love to sell even more of them.

Their is a small but meaningful resistance in Congress.

The last line of defense in favor of our freedom and 4th Amendment rights is the federal judiciary.

A congresswoman was shot and a federal judge was killed in a SUPERMARKET.

Some day "If you don't like it, don't fly" will become "if you don't like it don't eat."

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Reply #11 - Jan 8th, 2011 at 6:33pm
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chris girard wrote on Jan 8th, 2011 at 5:56pm:
Some airports are exploring private security and getting rid of TSA.


Uh, WHAT ?

Airports have the authority to do this? Where did you hear this ?

Geez, I can only imagine having to conform to differing regulations depending on which & how many airports I fly through.  Oh no! not you again
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chris girard wrote on Jan 8th, 2011 at 5:56pm:
So what are you scared of, if you not carrying anything illegal then it becomes another pain in ass that one has to endure.


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It was on CNN a few days ago. People are not happy with TSA and all their bullshit, like not allowing nail clippers in a carry on and taking off your shoes and screwing with old people and young kids or babies. Some of these TSA people have let a little bit of authority go to their heads. I fly and dislike all the TSA crap.

Edith Grove wrote on Jan 8th, 2011 at 6:33pm:
chris girard wrote on Jan 8th, 2011 at 5:56pm:
Some airports are exploring private security and getting rid of TSA.


Uh, WHAT ?

Airports have the authority to do this? Where did you hear this ?

Geez, I can only imagine having to conform to differing regulations depending on which & how many airports I fly through.  Oh no! not you again

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Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) is alive and doctors are optimistic about her recovery, the hospital said in an update this afternoon.

University Medical Center's Dr. Peter Rhee says that the facility received 10 patients in all. One died (a 9-year-old child) and are in critical condition, including Giffords, who was shot at a public event in Tucson outside a grocery store.

On Giffords specifically, Rhee said, "The neurosurgeons just finished operating on her and at the current time, I am very optimistic about recovery."

Rhee told the Arizona Republic that Giffords was shot in the head, "through and through," and the bullet passed through her brain.

Dr. Manny Alvarez tells Fox News that Giffords is in for a "long fight," and though survival from a gunshot wound to the head is rare, it is not unprecedented. About 5 percent will survive and it depends where exactly the shot took place.

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I find this so fucking disturbing...I am speechless and numb
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Reply #16 - Jan 9th, 2011 at 7:30am
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This was outrageous, but (sadly) not surprising.  I am in complete agreement with Sheriff Dupnik's assessment.  I hope we haven't reached the point of no return.
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Reply #17 - Jan 9th, 2011 at 8:22am
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Mix the lunatic fringe and guns...and voila. We can only hope she makes it through and others as well scarred by this sensless act of cowardice.
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Reply #18 - Jan 9th, 2011 at 8:22am
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Edith Grove wrote on Jan 8th, 2011 at 6:33pm:
chris girard wrote on Jan 8th, 2011 at 5:56pm:
Some airports are exploring private security and getting rid of TSA.


Uh, WHAT ?

Airports have the authority to do this? Where did you hear this ?

Geez, I can only imagine having to conform to differing regulations depending on which & how many airports I fly through.  Oh no! not you again

Many airports DO NOT use TSA...some major ones included...like SFO and MCI...and many more to follow real sooon.

Here is ONE article i recall:

http://www.examiner.com/airlines-airport-in-minneapolis/will-msp-privatize-airpo...

Back to topic...I fear that elected officials will no longer be able to talk to their public...the popemobile will be a common thing
for elected officials at every level if this is any indication.
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This is sad news, I like others, is shocked and  upset by this. This is not us. Pray for all involved.
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she was on one of Palins "hit lists".

it is possible to get other people fired up and mad enough to do this for you.... Hitler never once as far as I know, said he wanted to kill millions of Jews before or during the War... I beleive he only made reference to it, during his final speech... and I'm not saying Palin is Hitler...  I do think she is very calculating and manipulative, and knows exactly what is going on, and is inciting extremists with her talk. This isn't political because she quit politics to talk... and she isn't responsible for this event, it pisses me off, she created a hit list, and she openly talks of gun rights with zero responsibiltiy and has encouraged people to take drastic action. I'm looking forward to her Twitter response on this...




You are insane! This asshole didn't have a damned thing to do with Sarah Palin!! He was not a member of the Tea Party. He was a nut. He believed that the government was controlling people's minds and thought patterns! He was almost crazy as you are!


Did you say shit when that no talent hack Randi Rhodes from the now bankrupt Air America said on national radio that President Bush should "be stood against a wall and face a firing squad!"?  How about when that leftist film maker from Canada made the film about the execution of President Bush? Where was your outrage then?!?! The fact that you would try and lay even a scintilla of blame at Palin's feet is beyond pathetic. It shows that you have the mind of a far left wing hack that will try and insert your assinine immature political philosophy into a national tragedy just for the sake of tearing down your political opponents. You did the exact same thing with 9/11/01. You immediately laid blame with the Bush Admin. All the while ignoring the fact that the radical Islamists "religion of peace" adherents attended flight school while Clinton was in office!

To play politics with a tragedy like this lame beyond measure, and you should strive to remember that. No one on the right started talking about the politics of the gunman at the Virginia Tech back in 2007. This guy left all kinds of crazy left leaning rants on message boards. Did you play a game gotcha with thas insane freak? Of course not. How about that leftwing nut job, and registered Democrat, Joseph Stack, that flew his plane into the IRS building last spring. Where was your outrage then? Did he fly that plane into the IRS building because he was a leftwing douchebag, or did he do it because he was a nut? I would never blame an insane persion's politics for their actions. Nor would I blame the political ads of those I dissagre with for "fanning the flames" of an insane person.

Oh, and for your info, the judge that was killed was a conservative federal judge appointed by George H W Bush. This guy's politics didn't have a damned thing to do with this horrific event. The fact that he was mentally unstable is the only reason that he did it.



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Pdog wrote on Jan 8th, 2011 at 2:32pm:
she was on one of Palins "hit lists".

it is possible to get other people fired up and mad enough to do this for you.... Hitler never once as far as I know, said he wanted to kill millions of Jews before or during the War... I beleive he only made reference to it, during his final speech... and I'm not saying Palin is Hitler...  I do think she is very calculating and manipulative, and knows exactly what is going on, and is inciting extremists with her talk. This isn't political because she quit politics to talk... and she isn't responsible for this event, it pisses me off, she created a hit list, and she openly talks of gun rights with zero responsibiltiy and has encouraged people to take drastic action. I'm looking forward to her Twitter response on this...




You are insane! This asshole didn't have a damned thing to do with Sarah Palin!! He was not a member of the Tea Party. He was a nut. He believed that the government was controlling people's minds and thought patterns! He was almost crazy as you are!


Did you say shit when that no talent hack Randi Rhodes from the now bankrupt Air America said on national radio that President Bush should "be stood against a wall and face a firing squad!"?  How about when that leftist film maker from Canada made the film about the execution of President Bush? Where was your outrage then?!?! The fact that you would try and lay even a scintilla of blame at Palin's feet is beyond pathetic. It shows that you have the mind of a far left wing hack that will try and insert your assinine immature political philosophy into a national tragedy just for the sake of tearing down your political opponents. You did the exact same thing with 9/11/01. You immediately laid blame with the Bush Admin. All the while ignoring the fact that the radical Islamists "religion of peace" adherents attended flight school while Clinton was in office!

To play politics with a tragedy like this lame beyond measure, and you should strive to remember that. No one on the right started talking about the politics of the gunman at the Virginia Tech back in 2007. This guy left all kinds of crazy left leaning rants on message boards. Did you play a game gotcha with thas insane freak? Of course not. How about that leftwing nut job, and registered Democrat, Joseph Stack, that flew his plane into the IRS building last spring. Where was your outrage then? Did he fly that plane into the IRS building because he was a leftwing douchebag, or did he do it because he was a nut? I would never blame an insane persion's politics for their actions. Nor would I blame the political ads of those I dissagre with for "fanning the flames" of an insane person.

Oh, and for your info, the judge that was killed was a conservative federal judge appointed by George H W Bush. This guy's politics didn't have a damned thing to do with this horrific event. The fact that he was mentally unstable is the only reason that he did it.



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Pdog wrote on Jan 9th, 2011 at 1:44pm:
Riffhard wrote on Jan 9th, 2011 at 11:40am:
Pdog wrote on Jan 8th, 2011 at 2:32pm:
she was on one of Palins "hit lists".

it is possible to get other people fired up and mad enough to do this for you.... Hitler never once as far as I know, said he wanted to kill millions of Jews before or during the War... I beleive he only made reference to it, during his final speech... and I'm not saying Palin is Hitler...  I do think she is very calculating and manipulative, and knows exactly what is going on, and is inciting extremists with her talk. This isn't political because she quit politics to talk... and she isn't responsible for this event, it pisses me off, she created a hit list, and she openly talks of gun rights with zero responsibiltiy and has encouraged people to take drastic action. I'm looking forward to her Twitter response on this...




You are insane! This asshole didn't have a damned thing to do with Sarah Palin!! He was not a member of the Tea Party. He was a nut. He believed that the government was controlling people's minds and thought patterns! He was almost crazy as you are!


Did you say shit when that no talent hack Randi Rhodes from the now bankrupt Air America said on national radio that President Bush should "be stood against a wall and face a firing squad!"?  How about when that leftist film maker from Canada made the film about the execution of President Bush? Where was your outrage then?!?! The fact that you would try and lay even a scintilla of blame at Palin's feet is beyond pathetic. It shows that you have the mind of a far left wing hack that will try and insert your assinine immature political philosophy into a national tragedy just for the sake of tearing down your political opponents. You did the exact same thing with 9/11/01. You immediately laid blame with the Bush Admin. All the while ignoring the fact that the radical Islamists "religion of peace" adherents attended flight school while Clinton was in office!

To play politics with a tragedy like this lame beyond measure, and you should strive to remember that. No one on the right started talking about the politics of the gunman at the Virginia Tech back in 2007. This guy left all kinds of crazy left leaning rants on message boards. Did you play a game gotcha with thas insane freak? Of course not. How about that leftwing nut job, and registered Democrat, Joseph Stack, that flew his plane into the IRS building last spring. Where was your outrage then? Did he fly that plane into the IRS building because he was a leftwing douchebag, or did he do it because he was a nut? I would never blame an insane persion's politics for their actions. Nor would I blame the political ads of those I dissagre with for "fanning the flames" of an insane person.

Oh, and for your info, the judge that was killed was a conservative federal judge appointed by George H W Bush. This guy's politics didn't have a damned thing to do with this horrific event. The fact that he was mentally unstable is the only reason that he did it.



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LOL! Good answer you pathetic fuckstick!

This mentally deranged murderer had zero to do with Sarah Palin, but you sure wish you could make that connection, don't you?

LOL! You, like all liberal drones, are so god damned predictable in your blanket stupidity!


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