Oh, how very ridiculous and typical!

I don't agree with it at all, I think every child should be brought up with a Male & Female, other wise the kid will be screwed up, look at single parent families, when there's not a Father or Mother around, it's trouble down the line, this shouldn't be allowed, if they want to live together fine, but don't involve a child.

Brainbell Jangler wrote on Dec 28^th, 2010 at 2:34pm:

Great song. Otherwise I don't have much to say about Elton.

Honky Tonk Man wrote on Dec 28^th, 2010 at 3:20pm:


No, I didn't intend it like that, in a lot of cases the kids turn out o.k. it's just that every kid who is lacking a Male or Female role model growing up, who is without a Mother or Father can be troubled by it.

Well, I guess everything is possible when you've got money. In Holland one can adopt a child from another country only when you're not older than 41 or 42 years old. I think that's a good thing. Elton will be 80 when he must pick up this child at a disco on a saturdaynight (lol). I don't think that's a good thing.

At first I thought this odd,
but its like the saying
"its not the size that counts its how you use it"

This also relates to parenting

Its all a question of being raised correctly.

and people with money are brought up much differently.

Not for people of the Catholic Faith.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpuYoK6wv_Y&list=PLC8163370DB0E8E71&index...

Brainbell Jangler wrote on Dec 28^th, 2010 at 7:34pm:


I may have graduated from public school, but I know my adverbs, dammit!  

Interesting. Certainly I'm not a gay basher. However, I don't know if I can "agree" to this?

Kids generally follow in the path of their parents. If their parents are both losers then the kid is most likely gonna be one. How a child grows up and what he sees going on in his home as "common place" has all the impact, and influence on their lifestyle as they get older. What a child was taught when he was young is instilled in him/her. He or she is then much more likely to pass on those, or at least some of those ideals to his her own children.

That said,

I cant see a boy, with Gay parents, raising him, teaching, showing etc. etc. growing up just as every other boy in the neighborhood. When "dad" wakes up in the morning and walks out to the kitchen and kisses "daddy" and asks what's for breakfast it has to play into the psychology of a child's grasp on his or her take on traditional marriage and later on in life what that child considers standard or expected...

Certainly hope I didn't offend anyone. That's the last thing in the world I want to do in a topic like this. I have had casual friendships with a few gay people in my life (purely casual, never intimate or sexual he he) and I had no issue with it. Most of them had many redeeming qualities. I just believe standard living should be presented to a child first, then it's up to the child. To me, this guy-guy parenting promotes some homosexuality to the child. I don't think it should "promoted" is all I'm saying. Not to a kid growing up. When he or she is older they can do as they please however this type of parenting seems to promote it to the kid more over.

Ian

Honky Tonk Man wrote on Dec 28^th, 2010 at 3:20pm:


the belief that same sex or single parents can not raise a child with love and instruction is a lie. It is false and the people who spew the ignorance aren't worthy of debate. It is the same mindset that argued against interacial or inter- religion ect... My theory is, they either had love at home and were told, it only exists like this, creating a narrow view or they had very little love and do not know how to seek it, and instead create ideas to destroy what others build because they never had it... either way, there is no debate with these folks, they have no vision, they are the human historical equivilent of mile markers, just look at them as you pass and see your own progress in life!
have a nice day!

Ian Billen wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2011 at 12:07am:



most kids don't see any affection in the home... millions grow up with parents who show no love to each other... you are concerned about all these heterosexual relationships that are creating this? you know how high divorce rates are? Kids with no love who are ignored... who don't get asked what they want for breakfast... love and expressing love is not the same as fucking, as so many tend to elude. And there is no evidence, that gay parents raise gay kids or any other type of person...
It always cracks me up, that male fans of the stones, who have been looking at Micks cock in his tight outfits for years, are hung up on any form of male sexuality, period! Some serious issues here boys! I'm glad I don't think about how you guys fuck, because when I start to go there, It seems like it's reall repressed and uncomfortable.

Pdog I think Mick is the ONLY execption...

If you know what I mean............................................

about the only thing worth considering here is that the child grows up healthy and well cared for......

Ginda wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2011 at 12:19pm:



Exactly...

Best tee shirt from 2010 on gay rights!

Pdog wrote on Jan 3^rd, 2011 at 8:03am:

__________________________

A single parent can raise a kid with love, proper instruction, and all the things needed to be productive in life. Certainly it can be done and there are many individuals that serve as nice examples. I do feel two parents provide the best atmosphere if they are both decent people with decent values. Not a requirement, just better in terms of it being the probability of a better home-life for a child is all. That said, it would be far better to have a decent single parent raise a child than two half wits or one horrible parent in the couple. I agree. I feel in order to understand the opposite sex as one ages, it is best to "live" with one and see their needs. This is why I feel the so called Mom and Pop situation is best. Is it needed ... no. It can be done with either. Are two better to have that other side to understand ...in my opinion definitely.

Ian

Pdog wrote on Jan 4^th, 2011 at 8:51am:


______________________________

I have researched just a tad in the past on this very topic after seeing a special concerning it on TV. I researched it and read on it you know...just for the hell of it. "Supposedly" ... Kids with gay parents have no more chance of being gay than the next...( I still have a hard time believing this. If they are not gay then.... are they going to be the same and basically normal just as the next bloke or chic...? hmmmm). I don't hate anyone gay. I'm not a redneck who bashes gays all day. In fact I actually find the subject humorous at times... Anyway, your sign about ...."if the fetus your about to save is gay would you still save it".... my answer is sure. A life is a life. I will think about your opinion and I'll rethink mine a bit. Nuff said I suppose.

Ian

Ian Billen wrote on Jan 4^th, 2011 at 8:41pm:



love your reply. just being open to the idea, and you being willing to see anothers views, says tons about your character. i think a big problem with people, is that many can't do what you just did, and then it just goes horribly wrong. sex is sex, and i think sex is great, and is one of my favorite things about being alive... and our sexuality doesn't make us good or bad parents...  and it is great we live in a world, were people take on caring for children when for whatever reason, the biological parents aren't around...

NEWS
DIRE STRAITS - 'Money For Nothing' Banned In Canada
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Posted on Thursday, January 13, 2011 at 09:02:10 EST

According to Spectator Wire Services, the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council has ruled that DIRE STRAITS’ 1980s hit 'Money For Nothing' (which features THE POLICE's Sting on background vocals) is too offensive for Canadian radio.

The ruling, released Wednesday, was in response to a complaint against St. John’s radio station CHOZ-FM. The listener complained that the word faggot – which appears three times in the song is “extremely offensive” to gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.

The council is an independent body created by Canadian radio and television broadcasters to review the standards of their content.

The award-winning song was the first single off of Dire Straits’ album Brothers in Arms and has been an international music staple for 25 years.

The council ruled that the song contravenes its ethics code which states: “broadcasters shall ensure that their programming contains no abusive or unduly discriminatory material or comment which is based on matters of race, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, age, sex, sexual orientation, marital status or physical or mental disability.”

It ruled that “faggot,” when used to describe a homosexual, is “even if entirely or marginally acceptable in earlier days, is no longer so.”

Offending Lyrics from Money for Nothing, by Dire Straits:

The little faggot with the earring and the makeup

Yeah, buddy, that’s his own hair

That little faggot’s got his own jet airplane

That little faggot, he’s a millionaire
http://www.bravewords.com/news/153967

only in Canada eh?....why don't they ban that Elton song??..."Don't Let Your Son Go Down On Me"???

Heart Of Stone wrote on Jan 13^th, 2011 at 11:29am:



It's a shame when your freedom of speech gets taken ain't it...

Elton John Gives Billy Joel 'Tough Love' in New Rolling Stone Cover Story
Singer criticizes Billy Joel, explains his decision to play Rush Limbaugh's wedding and more
Photograph by Mark Seliger for RollingStone.com
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By Andy Greene
February 2, 2011 8:30 AM EDT

See video from John's cover shoot below.


In the new issue of Rolling Stone – on stands and in the digital archives Friday (subscription required) – Elton John reflects on his 40-year career. Just days after the birth of his son Zachary, John speaks about the joys of fatherhood, his enduring relationship with lyricist Bernie Taupin, how he's mentored Eminem through difficult times – and his true feelings about his longtime friend and tourmate Billy Joel.

Rolling Stone's 1976 Cover Story: Elton John: Lonely at the Top

"At the end of the day, he's coasting," John tells Scaggs."I always say, 'Billy, can't you write another song?' It's either fear or laziness. It upsets me. Billy's a conundrum. We've had so many cancelled tours because of illnesses and various other things, alcoholism."

The 100 Greatest Artists of All Time: Elton John

He goes on to criticize Joel's past attempts to stop drinking. "He's going to hate me for this, but every time he goes to rehab they've been light," John says. "When I went to rehab, I had to clean the floors. He goes to rehab where they have TVs. I love you, Billy, and this is tough love. Billy, you have your demons and you're not going to get rid of them at rehab light. You've got to be serious. People adore you, they love you and respect you. You should be able to do something better than what you're doing now."

The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time: Elton John's Elton John

Other highlights from the piece:

- John explains his controversial decision to play Rush Limbaugh's wedding. "I could not believe when I was asked to play," he says. "I thought it was a joke. I had dialogue with him before and he said, 'I'm not anti-gay, I want you to come, bring David.' My goal is for Rush to say, 'I support civil partnerships,' and if I rang him right now, I think he might agree. He was one of the first people to congratulate us on the baby."

Photos: Elton John's Outfits Through the Years

- He regularly speaks to Eminem on the phone. "We call each other cunts," John says. "He's worked really hard at sobriety and it's changed him so much. He's also got a great sense of humor. When David and I had our civil partnership, he sent us a present. In a case, on velvet cushions, were two diamond cock rings. So there's a homophobe for you [laughs]."

The 100 Greatest Singers of All Time: Elton John

- Lady Gaga is one of his favorite new artists. "I've heard her new album," John says. "It's amazing. The first single, 'Born This Way,' is the anthem that's going to obliterate 'I Will Survive.' I can't think of how huge it's going to be."

More From the Cover Story: Elton John on Playing With Kanye, Hanging With Dylan and Filling His Baby's iPod
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/elton-john-gives-billy-joel-tough-love-in...

As it turns out, I got free tickets to see Elton and Leon Russell on The Late Show with Dave Letterman in 2 days Feb. 9. Maybe he'll talk about the baby.

Mckellen Wants Gay Sex Scene
                                                           

British actor SIR IAN MCKELLEN complained on the set of upcoming sequel X-MEN: THE LAST STAND, because he wanted his character MAGNETO to have some gay sex scenes. THE LORD OF THE RINGS star, who has been openly gay since 1988, insists a homoerotic sub-plot would have enhanced the movie. MCKellen tells Empire magazine, "He hasn't been given a love line, which I think is a pity. It would be wonderful if the camera hovered over Magneto's bed, to discover him making love to Professor X." However, MCKellen admits he needed camera trickery to help him match Magneto's muscular physique. He adds, "I'd like to see him at the gym, because in the comics he has the most amazing body. I'm the slimline version of Magneto, but of course, these days you could morph my body into something really fantastic."

paul wrote on Feb 8^th, 2011 at 12:14pm:


Maybe true, but actually arent everyones reasons for having kids for personal gratification? What other reason is there?  To re-populate the planet?

I LOVED Elton John, and it's clear that he is the mother role. He was trying to adopt for a few years but couldnt get a child easily due to his age and other red tape. Thats when he decided to do a surrogate. I wish Dave would of asked him whos wad it was and who donated the egg. I guess that info is being kept secret for now. The birth mother isnt in the picture, they have a nanny. Drop off the baby and cash the check. Women who become surrogates are extraordinary, give birth and let the child go.

Leon Russell is a relic. He can barely walk on stage, but once he sat down at the piano he was in his element, Elton was fabulous singing and playing a duet.

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I don't call that extraordinary. I call it aberrant. This is not natural behavior by any stretch of the imagination and I hope to God it is never considered to be something that is acceptable to any mother. Carrying a child and giving birth is the most sacred and holy of human experiences and it should never be irreparably tainted by the utter selfishness and self-entitlement of people like Elton john.

Are you adopted?

Have you given birth?

Do you want me to put it so politically incorrect and bluntly?

Elton John bought a child.

Whatever the situation, Elton John's baby is going to be loved I'm sure, he will sure be better of then most babies financially, I'm not really for same sex couples adopting babies, but that's just me, I'm old fashioned.

Bitch wrote on Feb 8^th, 2011 at 9:39pm:


Yes.