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Re: Can you be a Stones lover & still go to Church
Reply #50 - Nov 20th, 2010 at 8:41am
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Sioux wrote on Nov 19th, 2010 at 11:36pm:
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Go every Sunday, to a fundamental Baptist church. And yes, I am a Stones fan. So............... Wink


Faithfully?

With loving the Stones so much, I'd feel like a hypocrite.



Going every Sunday, and Wednesday night for choir rehersal, is pretty faithful, I would say. Since I was a tot. Smiley

Now, I'm not sayin' that I worship the Stones, or any man, for that matter. I love the music. I mostly love the early era----I love the 60's in general. I really like the Mick Taylor years as well. I do not love the lifestyle that most rock stars live----I did not, no do not, participate in many of the, er, "habits" that they might have endulged in.....I thoroughly enjoyed the '60's....the music, fashion, movies, TV, etc. I remember every minute, as I was a teen and didn't participate in drug or alcohol use, nor was I sexually active. I was really pretty innocent---no, VERY innocent. And I don't regret that at all. Smiley No, I don't worship the Stones---as individuals, or as a group. But.....I think I can still qualify as a fan. Smiley


Good for you Sioux, for standing up for yourself & what you believe, at least you remember the 60's, it really was a great time in the world,  I'm also a fan of that & the Mick Taylor era too, I did idolize the Stones, Keith Richards in particular, when I was a teenager, but with age I outgrew that, at least I can understand why people do that.
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Reply #51 - Nov 20th, 2010 at 9:13am
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Riffhard wrote on Nov 19th, 2010 at 11:14pm:
LOL! You're just stupid enough to think that I'm the one that got my ass handed! It's the other way 'round, pal. As it always has been.

You're right. You, and your Alinskyite Henry Higgins BJ (look it up), have throughly debunked the myth that the Blues was shaped by the very gospel and "negro spiritual" music that damned near every single early practitioner of the Bluse grew up listening to from cradle to grave! Thanks to you guys we now know the real truth!

Pathetic. Not that I've come to expect anything less, or more.


Okay, take the last word......no....I mean it this time!



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I would have had to fight to get my ass handed to me. all you did was make yourself look like a jerk, looking for and starting a fight, for no reason... I assume your religion is being mean to people, because that is the only principle you practice. The ass you hold is your own, by yourself... if you notice, niether me or BJ has fought, we have only discussed, you came in fighting and remain only to fight... A discussion of The Stones music and a history of rock n' roll can't happen with discussing the history of black music... Seems you are of the opinion black music emerged from southern white slave culture and it's religion. The problem isn't that people disagree with you, the only problem is, anyone who stands for something you don't agree with, is bellitled, labeled into political and social groups and viciously assaulted by your foul mouth. The history of black music, my knowledge of it, comes almost totally from being a Stones fan, and things Keith richards has talked about, and then I have gone a little deeper with the information he provided in interviews ect... I never said, anywhere, the southern churchs didn't influence the black culture, they greatly did. But at the core, they preserved many of the core elements from africa that evolved into modern day rock and roll, and even rap... it appears to me, that somehow you are threatened, because being a white southerner, I get the impression, from your hostility, that you really want to claim that your culture is what made this possible. This isn't a stretch, since you have done this before, on political rants... and you always attack people who have adifferent views, and remain mostly rational, while you keep attacking them. When The Stones first came to america, did they go to white churchs and neighborhoods? no, they weren't even welcomed there. They were subject to ridicule, police harrasment and made to feel like an enemy to that white american christian culture... but, after gaining some acceptance, they were slowly welcomed into the very exclusive black musci culture and society. I wonder why The Stones only went to those seedy Go-Go's and backwater juke joints... hmm... and you think we're just making it up... and you're "discusion" on this, is that these happened as a result of singing hymnals in the fields as slaves? The christian influence is so obvious, how did I miss it... oh, but... how does that explain how blacks went off and began their own churches, b/c they weren't welcomed in the white ones, and began their own form of music, that was also rejected by the christian culture...? In your mind it makes perfect sense, that your culture, is responsible for rock and roll... especially since it happened at a time in history when the two cultures were segragted. I bet you and the with from Maryland can have a great discussion on this, but us grown ups, we're going to have a rational, amicable discusion.
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Reply #52 - Nov 20th, 2010 at 10:17am
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So Marley was right...?

"Stolen from Africa, brought to America?"

Maybe we are greedy and conquerors.

Who knows anymore.

The History Books don't tell you anything.

This is just one's persons opionon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Nem-PNHLY
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Reply #53 - Nov 20th, 2010 at 10:26am
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LadyJane wrote on Nov 20th, 2010 at 12:24am:
Taking Sioux's back on this one.
Answer to Baby Steelies question is Yes.
Both can be done.
In my most humblest of f'ing opinions, of course.

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Thanks, LJ... Smiley Smiley Brian's smile
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Reply #54 - Nov 20th, 2010 at 10:27am
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steel driving hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2010 at 10:17am:
So Marley was right...?

"Stolen from Africa, brought to America?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5Nem-PNHLY

Who knows anymore.

The History Books don't tell you anything.



My local library has some great books on the history of rock and roll, and covers alot of the roots from africa and the influence of american culture and how it has evolved right up to present day... I have been reading books that are fantasy novels right now, except for Keth's book, but if you really are interested, I'll recomend a few or maybe some others will... (begin sarcasm) Maybe Riffy can recomend a few, that support his view... His view is very interesting, especially his experience in jamaica not too long ago, where he saw white people, trying to be jamaican... which really means they were taking back, what the jamaicans had stolen and adopted as their own... which does make sense, since the rastafarians think they are the lost tribe of israel, and everyone knows there's no black people or dark skinned people from that part of the world... they are all white european looking, like in the pictures in the churchs...(end sarcasm)
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Reply #55 - Nov 20th, 2010 at 10:31am
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Heart Of Stone wrote on Nov 20th, 2010 at 8:41am:
Sioux wrote on Nov 19th, 2010 at 11:36pm:
steel driving hammer wrote on Nov 19th, 2010 at 6:51am:
Sioux wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 6:14pm:
Go every Sunday, to a fundamental Baptist church. And yes, I am a Stones fan. So............... Wink


Faithfully?

With loving the Stones so much, I'd feel like a hypocrite.



Going every Sunday, and Wednesday night for choir rehersal, is pretty faithful, I would say. Since I was a tot. Smiley

Now, I'm not sayin' that I worship the Stones, or any man, for that matter. I love the music. I mostly love the early era----I love the 60's in general. I really like the Mick Taylor years as well. I do not love the lifestyle that most rock stars live----I did not, no do not, participate in many of the, er, "habits" that they might have endulged in.....I thoroughly enjoyed the '60's....the music, fashion, movies, TV, etc. I remember every minute, as I was a teen and didn't participate in drug or alcohol use, nor was I sexually active. I was really pretty innocent---no, VERY innocent. And I don't regret that at all. Smiley No, I don't worship the Stones---as individuals, or as a group. But.....I think I can still qualify as a fan. Smiley


Good for you Sioux, for standing up for yourself & what you believe, at least you remember the 60's, it really was a great time in the world,  I'm also a fan of that & the Mick Taylor era too, I did idolize the Stones, Keith Richards in particular, when I was a teenager, but with age I outgrew that, at least I can understand why people do that.



Thanks, HOS...Smiley It's really all about love.....God loves us all, no matter what or who we are. It's how we respond to that love that makes the difference for us all. Smiley I've never condonded everything that anyone has ever done---including the things I've done! We are all flawed......but I still loves me some Stones music.  Wink And the young girl in me still gets excited when I see great pix of the boys! Cool
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Pdog are you still up from last night or just waking up early?

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Reply #57 - Nov 20th, 2010 at 10:35am
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steel driving hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2010 at 10:31am:
Pdog are you still up from last night or just waking up early?




went to bed at 1130, got up at 730.... why do you ask?
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Just thought it was a bit early in San Fran thats all.

I got the older you get, the earlier to rise blues syndrome going on.
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steel driving hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2010 at 11:25am:
Just thought it was a bit early in San Fran thats all.

I got the older you get, the earlier to rise blues syndrome going on.


I left SF 2 1/2 years ago, live in austin, tx.
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Reply #60 - Nov 20th, 2010 at 4:14pm
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Sioux wrote on Nov 19th, 2010 at 11:30pm:
[quote author=Factory Girl link=1290081995/0#12 date=1290125699]   Patti Hansen is a born again Christian.  

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Yes. She is. Thank you for that. Smiley And she's a lot closer to the Stones than I am..... Wink


are you sure about that?

i thought she was old school lutheran like the rest of her family
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No 'born again' about it. She's always been a Christian.
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Reply #62 - Nov 21st, 2010 at 4:12pm
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Ok, so I'm in church today.... Wink Sittin' in the front row of the choir, as usual. And the pastor, in the middle of the sermon, is talking about "satisfaction".  Wink Uh, can you see where I'm going with this?  Wink Tongue Yeah, he says something to the effect, "Well, I am a product of the 60's..." And I'm smilin', cuz I KNOW what's coming..."and there was a song...." Ok, here it comes. Smiley "I Can't Get No...." And he holds out his hand and the congregation chimes in "Satisfaction".  Grin

So, yeah, in a roundabout way, the Stones were in church today..... Wink Tongue Grin


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lol, yer kidding?
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lol, yer kidding?



Naw....true, 'dat!  Wink Grin
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lol, yer kidding?



Naw....true, 'dat!  Wink Grin


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lol, yer kidding?



Naw....true, 'dat!  Wink Grin

That's too funny. Was it the church of the Sacred Bleeding Heart of Jesus? Wink
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Sioux wrote on Nov 21st, 2010 at 4:12pm:
Ok, so I'm in church today.... Wink Sittin' in the front row of the choir, as usual. And the pastor, in the middle of the sermon, is talking about "satisfaction".  Wink Uh, can you see where I'm going with this?  Wink Tongue Yeah, he says something to the effect, "Well, I am a product of the 60's..." And I'm smilin', cuz I KNOW what's coming..."and there was a song...." Ok, here it comes. Smiley "I Can't Get No...." And he holds out his hand and the congregation chimes in "Satisfaction".  Grin

So, yeah, in a roundabout way, the Stones were in church today..... Wink Tongue Grin


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Naw....true, 'dat!  Wink Grin

That's too funny. Was it the church of the Sacred Bleeding Heart of Jesus? Wink


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Sioux wrote on Nov 21st, 2010 at 4:12pm:
Ok, so I'm in church today.... Wink Sittin' in the front row of the choir, as usual. And the pastor, in the middle of the sermon, is talking about "satisfaction".  Wink Uh, can you see where I'm going with this?  Wink Tongue Yeah, he says something to the effect, "Well, I am a product of the 60's..." And I'm smilin', cuz I KNOW what's coming..."and there was a song...." Ok, here it comes. Smiley "I Can't Get No...." And he holds out his hand and the congregation chimes in "Satisfaction".  Grin

So, yeah, in a roundabout way, the Stones were in church today..... Wink Tongue Grin


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if you hear the pastor go... "I hear you talking when I'm on the street, Your mouth don't move but I can hear you speak"... don't sit in front, it might get messy.
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lol, I was thinking he should of stood up and shouted to the preacher;

"Whats a matta w/ cha boy, Jesus don't come round no more,

Is he checking out the show, is he gonna close the door on me..."

Just kidding, but seriously...
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Ha...naw, that's about as wild as my very conservative church ever gets.... Wink
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steel driving hammer wrote on Nov 20th, 2010 at 11:25am:
Just thought it was a bit early in San Fran thats all.

I got the older you get, the earlier to rise blues syndrome going on.


I left SF 2 1/2 years ago, live in austin, tx.


There's a band there called James McMurty and the Heartless Bastards from Austin, best album is Walk Between the Raindrops, it might be too slow for you but very heart felt.

Rex's Blues - http://www.google.com/url?url=http://ilike.myspacecdn.com/play%23James%2BMcMurtr...
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steel driving hammer wrote on Nov 18th, 2010 at 6:06am:
I don't think you can.



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