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Reply #25 - Oct 21st, 2010 at 6:52pm
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Honky Tonk Man wrote on Oct 21st, 2010 at 6:17pm:
Gazza wrote on Oct 21st, 2010 at 6:02pm:
 Although I notice there is something called a "She Wolf Early Access - Standing Package' which costs £170 !!


Perhaps for that price she does some sserious arse-shaking in your direction?



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Reply #26 - Oct 21st, 2010 at 7:25pm
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mojoman wrote on Oct 21st, 2010 at 6:52pm:
Honky Tonk Man wrote on Oct 21st, 2010 at 6:17pm:
Gazza wrote on Oct 21st, 2010 at 6:02pm:
 Although I notice there is something called a "She Wolf Early Access - Standing Package' which costs £170 !!


Perhaps for that price she does some sserious arse-shaking in your direction?



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Does she have a "butter face"? All i have ever seen are pictures of her dorsal qualities.
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Does she have a "butter face"? All i have ever seen are pictures of her dorsal qualities.


Butterface ? Nah.


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" there is something called a "She Wolf Early Access - Standing Package' which costs £170  "


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Reply #30 - Oct 21st, 2010 at 11:08pm
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Ticket prices are so far out of hand it's got to the point of an almost ridiculousness. $200.00 to see a concert??? Just for simply a seat? No hotel for the weekend or back-stage passes to meet the band???


The writer of this short article tells only half of the truth. Sure, today concerts are an organized business. A corporate affair.  Yes stages, techs, crews are larger than they were thirty years ago... (for the big acts anyway). Sure there are hotel accommodations to be made for permanent crew and all that BUT...

We are not paying fifteen dollars a ticket anymore either. As well there is corporate sponsorship that helps out today where as in the seventies there was not.  

No matter how you look at it ...they are over priced incredibly. I can see paying $50.00 maybe $60.00 for real good seating but that's it....and yes, even I have paid up to $150.00 to see The Stones. This bull about paying $120.00...$130.00...$150.00 for prime seats is non-sense. Voodoo Lounge had a great concept. :

25.00 for upper level. $40.00 for better seats and like 60.00-65.00 for prime seating ... everyone had a chance to see the show. That was a large scale tour, with corporate sponsorship, broke records...the whole nine ...yet it was affordable by all. There was pricey seats and cheap seats. The pricey seats were simply only just that though...."pricey". ..not totally ball backbreakingly out of hand. As well there were a few cheaper options.

Why don't they follow that model to it's entirety anymore? I suppose the main reason is they simply don't have to with large acts. Nine times out of ten the tour does well....because people pay it.

Concerts make loads of money and all the talk about more over-head today and higher scale staging is quite true. HOWEVER there is sponsorship, renting vs. buying equipment (in the older days you had to buy much of it and sell it after....now you can rent many items/equipment) and other factors that cut into things yet the tickets keep going up and up till now it is totally out of hand.

All the overhead does not compensate for how high ticket prices have become simply because the whole business has changed to the point that while overhead and staging costs much, much more than before still the major concert tour has money coming in from different angles as where before it didn't has near as many. It's a shame. We are getting ripped every major tour. I am not expecting to pay $20.00 anymore like it is 1981. I realize prices go up. But paying the amount to that basically of a car payment ($200.00) is absurd. It is one night. A "concert". A good time, a show. A two/two and a half hour ordeal.... It should be kept in perspective to the outrageous prices.


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Corporate sponsorship is no panacea.

More acts than not tour without it, and many of them - Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam and Phish to name but a few - manage to keep their tickets costs down and still turn a tidy profit.

I'd imagine that Phish's "staging costs" are comparable to acts charging considerably more, so that rationale goes pffft.

Not as many people as some might think are actually willing to paying those inflated prices anymore.
Just ask Rihanna, The Eagles and Jonas Brothers. They all canceled shows due to low ticket sales.

The ridiculously overpriced Lilith Fair tour tanked BIG this summer.
A slew of dates were canceled, and it played to less than half-filled houses most everywhere else.

Sales for NY area stadium shows by The Eagles and Bon Jovi were so sluggish that discounted package deals were offered, and in the case of The Eagles, the pricing was also restructured - the expensive seats suddenly weren't so expensive.

My local shed was offering deeply discounted tickets for virtually every show on their schedule.
I bought $10 tickets for The Dukes Of September a few days before the show.
People sitting behind us paid $65 when they initially went on sale.

Same deal with Brooks & Dunn.
Not a fan of theirs, but Merle Haggard was opening.
Got my 10 bucks worth - and then some - from Merle & The Strangers, and bailed long before B & D hit the stage.

Of course there are acts that are immune to these problems. For now.

The days of needing to get tickets day of sale are over for me.
I'll wait for the inevitable "Great Seats Just Released!" or discount offer e-mails.

And there's always somebody outside the venue with an extra or two that's willing to shake hands with Mr. Jackson...
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Reply #32 - Oct 22nd, 2010 at 6:47am
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The long-term "excuse" for us had always been long distance & the value of our dollar against the U.S. Now that our dollar is more or less equal (and in a few weeks, will probably be worth more!) it will be interesting to see if any major acts flock here next year. Ac/Dc raked it in earlier this year in their "welcome home" shows. U2 is up soon. And they are not charging alot. But... i wouldnt see them unless my tix were free. I aint a fan & i despise "in the round" shows.

Major acts like Madonna & McCartney baulked at past Aussie tours because our dollar was pretty low & they'd have to charge astronimical prices to tix. Madonna has only toured here once & McCartney bailed a few years ago because ticket sales were poor (not many pensioners could afford to see him). Though the fool blamed the Bali bombing for his cancelling!

So, all being good, is there a chance that the Stones might START a tour here?

I for one cannot see why not. Get the machine oiled up and treat us to make up for the 22 years they didnt come here.
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Reply #33 - Oct 22nd, 2010 at 10:16am
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As I told you in another post, the most expensive ticket to Macca (sold out) is USD 1.200.- in a 60.000 people stadium here in Buenos Aires.
It's a record price never seen before!
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" As I told you in another post, the most expensive ticket to Macca (sold out) is USD 1.200.- in a 60.000 people stadium here in Buenos Aires.
It's a record price never seen before ! "

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Macca could play free in my backyard....and I'd close the drapes and pull the electric plugs. Uncle Albert indeed........
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Reply #36 - Oct 22nd, 2010 at 1:01pm
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Macca could play free in my backyard....and I'd close the drapes and pull the electric plugs. Uncle Albert indeed........

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Reply #37 - Oct 22nd, 2010 at 6:22pm
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Here's the real explanation of why concerts cost so much:

Back in the day when tix were $20-$50, fans and scalpers (touts) would buy them. The scalpers would charge and get $100-$300 for those tix. This went on for years.

Then someone or some group said..."ya know what, if people are paying those crazy prices to scalpers, why don't we get a piece of that pie and charge that price ourselves?" 


Plain and simple why concerts cost so much.
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Reply #38 - Oct 23rd, 2010 at 1:34am
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left shoe shuffle wrote on Oct 22nd, 2010 at 12:05am:
Corporate sponsorship is no panacea.

More acts than not tour without it, and many of them - Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam and Phish to name but a few - manage to keep their tickets costs down and still turn a tidy profit.

I'd imagine that Phish's "staging costs" are comparable to acts charging considerably more, so that rationale goes pffft.

Not as many people as some might think are actually willing to paying those inflated prices anymore.
Just ask Rihanna, The Eagles and Jonas Brothers. They all canceled shows due to low ticket sales.

The ridiculously overpriced Lilith Fair tour tanked BIG this summer.
A slew of dates were canceled, and it played to less than half-filled houses most everywhere else.

Sales for NY area stadium shows by The Eagles and Bon Jovi were so sluggish that discounted package deals were offered, and in the case of The Eagles, the pricing was also restructured - the expensive seats suddenly weren't so expensive.

My local shed was offering deeply discounted tickets for virtually every show on their schedule.
I bought $10 tickets for The Dukes Of September a few days before the show.
People sitting behind us paid $65 when they initially went on sale.

Same deal with Brooks & Dunn.
Not a fan of theirs, but Merle Haggard was opening.
Got my 10 bucks worth - and then some - from Merle & The Strangers, and bailed long before B & D hit the stage.

Of course there are acts that are immune to these problems. For now.

The days of needing to get tickets day of sale are over for me.
I'll wait for the inevitable "Great Seats Just Released!" or discount offer e-mails.

And there's always somebody outside the venue with an extra or two that's willing to shake hands with Mr. Jackson...


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Nice input. However I said "9" out of ten times the major acts clean house. It's true. If you've looked at ticket prices over the past twelve years 90% of those major tours, with high ticket prices, were successes. It can certainly be done quite easily and promoters know that. It is more than likely if things are managed properly they "should" get away with it.... promoters realize they get away with it "most" of the time. Not always (especially within the past three years due to the economy)...but the majority of the time the major acts make a load of money. Sure...maybe not as much as The Stones but they make their millions and the tour is a success. This is what I was saying.

I realize certain bands refuse corporate sponsorship. This adds to what I was saying. By bands not having corporate sponsorship and pulling off successful tours is more testimony to our initial analysis of us being raked.


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"  Then someone or some group said..."ya know what, if people are paying those crazy prices to scalpers, why don't we get a piece of that pie and charge that price ourselves?"  * "


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I think another reason ticket prices went up is because the bands arent making as much money thru record sales anymore, due to the internet, so they have to make their majority of income from touring.
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Reply #41 - Oct 25th, 2010 at 9:15am
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Bitch wrote on Oct 23rd, 2010 at 9:31pm:
I think another reason ticket prices went up is because the bands arent making as much money thru record sales anymore, due to the internet, so they have to make their majority of income from touring.


I agree!
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