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R & R Hall Of Fame 2011 Nominees.
Sep 28^th, 2010 at 1:14pm

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Great to see Alice Cooper finally getting in.

Later this morning, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame will announce their 2011 ballot. Rolling Stone can confirm that it includes first-time nominees Bon Jovi, Alice Cooper, Tom Waits, Donovan and Neil Diamond, plus previously nominated acts LL Cool J, J. Geils Band, Beastie Boys, Donna Summer, Chic, Dr. John, Laura Nyro, Joe Tex, Darlene Love and Chuck Willis. Artists must have released their first single in 1985 or earlier to be eligible in 2011. The top vote-getters will be announced in December, and formally inducted on March 14th 2011 at the Waldorf Astoria in New York City. See the 2011 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction nominees Neil Diamond and Alice Cooper have both been eligible for over fifteen years — and only Rush and KISS fans have been more outspoken about the exclusion of their favorite band. “I think the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame should be calling me,” Cooper said in 2002. “I think I'm being blackballed. But it's great to be the Pete Rose of rock and roll.” Last year the Hall of Fame inducted other the long-overlooked acts Genesis, the Stooges, the Hollies, Jimmy Cliff and ABB

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Reply #3 - Sep 28^th, 2010 at 3:13pm

Any chance some arsonist with a rock n roll conscience could torch the place some time between now and March?

I mean, I know its a shame in some ways because it would be hard on Alice Cooper and Tom Waits, but with you-know-who a cert to be inducted, I'm sure they'd understand that it's for the greater good of mankind.

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Reply #4 - Sep 28^th, 2010 at 3:25pm

Gazza wrote on Sep 28^th, 2010 at 3:13pm:

Any chance some arsonist with a rock n roll conscience could torch the place some time between now and March?

I mean, I know its a shame in some ways because it would be hard on Alice Cooper and Tom Waits, but with you-know-who a cert to be inducted, I'm sure they'd understand that it's for the greater good of mankind.

Maybe they should wait till Bon Jovi are actually there before they light it up! Keith syas that Mocks rock and he's roll, I say prove your fucking mettle and do what Gazza says. Burn the place!

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Reply #6 - Sep 28^th, 2010 at 3:47pm

I honestly don't get this current-day Bon Jovi phenomenon. They were pop-metal at its most inane back in the day and JB is a wannabe Bruce without the depth or cultural relevance. They get to sing in front of the Lincoln Memorial for Obama, they sit at Charlie Rose's oak desk.....and they still sound like pop-metal without real musical durability except to their fans.
When and how did this happen? Is it a New Jersey thing that I'm not getting?

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Reply #9 - Sep 28^th, 2010 at 5:02pm

What's the deal with Alice Coopers live act? As far as I know, he pretends to get beheaded and mutiliated and all, but doesn't this just distract from the music, or does it actually work well?

And if they only take people from 25 years before, what's the nominee list gonna look like in 20-25 years from now?!? It'll be pretty weak.

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Reply #10 - Sep 28^th, 2010 at 5:05pm

BILL PERKS wrote on Sep 28^th, 2010 at 4:31pm:

I'M FROM JERSEY AND I HATE BON JOVI..HOWEVER ,I HATE ALICE COOPER MORE..ONLY WAY HE SHOULD GET IN IS TO SWEEP THE FLOORS AT NIGHT.

I don't agree with that, Alice Cooper bit that is, not for the person himself, but for the group that was called Alice Cooper, they have been around since '68, first album came out in '69, they were the for-runners of Glam Rock, they & Bowie happened at the same time, but when the group broke up in '74, Alice Cooper legally adopted the name, so when everybody thinks of AC, they always think of the man instead of the group.
This is from the Toronto Rock & Roll revival in '69.
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Reply #12 - Sep 29^th, 2010 at 6:51am

SoulPlunderer wrote on Sep 28^th, 2010 at 5:02pm:

What's the deal with Alice Coopers live act? As far as I know, he pretends to get beheaded and mutiliated and all, but doesn't this just distract from the music, or does it actually work well?

And if they only take people from 25 years before, what's the nominee list gonna look like in 20-25 years from now?!? It'll be pretty weak.

Rock n roll itself will be a relic from the past in 25 years time, so it'll be a moot point.

Its dying on it's arse as it is. Not necessarily due to a lack of decent music (because thats not the case), but because of the soul being stripped out of it by the likes of Clear Channel, Ticketbastard, corporate greed, Simon Bastardface Cowell, clueless radio and TV programming, and a myriad of other factors.

There'll always be great music being made. Its just that it's becoming harder to actually be exposed to it in mainstream media.

There was a band a few years ago called Pop Will Eat Itself. It's becoming very prophetic.

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Reply #14 - Sep 29^th, 2010 at 9:02am

Gazza wrote on Sep 29^th, 2010 at 6:51am:

SoulPlunderer wrote on Sep 28^th, 2010 at 5:02pm:

What's the deal with Alice Coopers live act? As far as I know, he pretends to get beheaded and mutiliated and all, but doesn't this just distract from the music, or does it actually work well?

And if they only take people from 25 years before, what's the nominee list gonna look like in 20-25 years from now?!? It'll be pretty weak.

Rock n roll itself will be a relic from the past in 25 years time, so it'll be a moot point.

Its dying on it's arse as it is. Not necessarily due to a lack of decent music (because thats not the case), but because of the soul being stripped out of it by the likes of Clear Channel, Ticketbastard, corporate greed, Simon Bastardface Cowell, clueless radio and TV programming, and a myriad of other factors.

There'll always be great music being made. Its just that it's becoming harder to actually be exposed to it in mainstream media.

There was a band a few years ago called Pop Will Eat Itself. It's becoming very prophetic.

Popular music is sown up between faceless record companies, reality shows and the media these days. People seem to get the music, not of their favourite artist, but of their favourite celebrity. There isn't much original in the charts these days is there?
Cause its made-to-order, production line, personality vacuum "music" that appeals to the young generation that couldn't be arsed to listen to anything else!

But what can a good, decent young band do to get any attention these days? The media only seems to run stories on their usual favourites. The most successful artist of the last year or two is Lady Gaga! But not much that she does is original. And the choruses of her songs all consist of jibberish! And yet this is a style icon?!?!

Anyone who read the piece in the Sunday Times about her a few weeks ago will know what I'm talking about. Popular music lost its soul years ago!

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Reply #17 - Sep 29^th, 2010 at 1:05pm

It's the Rock Hall not the Pop Hall. Unfortunately, to keep the place open they probably have to put the Pop people in. I have learned by attending a million concerts, to simply ignore the crap I do not like and go straight to the great stuff in the Rock Hall, (like the new Elvis exhibit that I LOVE and the Stones exhibit, The Boss exhibit and Johnny Cash's tour bus) and give it my undying attention.

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Reply #19 - Sep 29^th, 2010 at 5:13pm

Gazza wrote on Sep 29^th, 2010 at 4:28pm:

Its not really a 'rock' hall either. Its a music hall of fame - if anything, its a monument to the history of popular music. And thats just fine. Many of the original inductees and pioneers couldnt really be described as 'rock' and nothing has changed.

'Rock n roll hall of fame' just trips off the tongue better.

I’m not sure who the first years inductees were off hand, but with the 25 year rule, I would bet that most of the acts were what we’d consider to be ‘rock n’ roll’

Perhaps they should now finally change the name!

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Reply #20 - Sep 29^th, 2010 at 6:30pm

Honky Tonk Man wrote on Sep 29^th, 2010 at 5:13pm:

Gazza wrote on Sep 29^th, 2010 at 4:28pm:

Its not really a 'rock' hall either. Its a music hall of fame - if anything, its a monument to the history of popular music. And thats just fine. Many of the original inductees and pioneers couldnt really be described as 'rock' and nothing has changed.

'Rock n roll hall of fame' just trips off the tongue better.

I’m not sure who the first years inductees were off hand, but with the 25 year rule, I would bet that most of the acts were what we’d consider to be ‘rock n’ roll’

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame_inductees

most of them were but a few weren't - James Brown, Sam Cooke for example.

Then add, 1987 - Aretha, BB King, Marvin Gaye, Smokey, Big Joe Turner, Muddy etc

There's always been plenty of room for other genres. As there should be.

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Reply #21 - Sep 29^th, 2010 at 8:53pm

Martha wrote on Sep 29^th, 2010 at 1:05pm:

It's the Rock Hall not the Pop Hall. Unfortunately, to keep the place open they probably have to put the Pop people in. I have learned by attending a million concerts, to simply ignore the crap I do not like and go straight to the great stuff in the Rock Hall, (like the new Elvis exhibit that I LOVE and the Stones exhibit, The Boss exhibit and Johnny Cash's tour bus) and give it my undying attention.

Long Live the King!

xoxoxo,
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