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Reply #75 - Aug 27th, 2010 at 2:16pm
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mick an keef are in the appartment next door writing exile 2.
how do i knoww?
1st of all i live in france and 2nd i havent seen or heard them. hiding from the press and all that...
from the things ive not heard through the wall its going to be great.
we ll have a tour soon, with tickets at 20 euros.
and now if you excuse me i gotta contine the beerd drinking with alice in wonderland...
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Reply #76 - Aug 27th, 2010 at 11:24pm
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Gazza wrote on Aug 27th, 2010 at 6:12am:
Ian Billen wrote on Aug 27th, 2010 at 12:07am:
Well they (Mick & Keith) are now on the same continent. That's a start...



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It might indeed be, if they were. Have I missed something about Keith being in Europe?

Your total misinterpretation of a 'Keith Norwegian publicist' story was explained about 15 posts ago.

Unless Keith was hiding in the bushes with that paparrazzi photographer in Austria, waiting to throw a bag over Mick and spirit him away to a nearby recording studio.



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I didn't see how the Norwegian/Norway thing was explained. Keith is in New York as you know from the other thread that came up recently. Regardless, the comment of them on the same continent being off to a good start was basically a joke...


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keith don't give a shit no more.
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Reply #79 - Aug 28th, 2010 at 9:48am
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Ian Billen wrote on Aug 27th, 2010 at 11:24pm:
I didn't see how the Norwegian/Norway thing was explained. Keith is in New York as you know from the other thread that came up recently.


Yes. I did.

In which case, why persist in speculating that he and Mick may be 'together' when you've known for a few days at least that Mick is in Europe.  Oh no! not you again
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Looks like Mick's added some October dates to his itinerary.
According to this article, he'll be attending a festival in India.


Mick Jagger in Jodhpur!


Piyali Dasgupta, TNN, Aug 30, 2010

Mick Jagger's coming on a culinary trip to India.

The Rolling Stones' lead vocalist will be in Jodhpur between October 21-24 for the Rajasthan International Food Festival (RIFF), which is being organised at the Mehrangarh Fort. Jagger is the patron of the festival with Maharaja Gaj Singh.

Whether Jagger will perform or not is still unclear, but other artistes set to perform at the festival are world percussionist Pete Lockett, Pakistani band Mekaal Hasan, and Indian singers Sona Mohapatra and Ashwini Bhide.

The Times Of India
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Reply #81 - Aug 30th, 2010 at 1:39pm
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SoulPlunderer wrote on Aug 26th, 2010 at 8:28pm:
She's not quite a Stones chick if he hasn't written anything about her. He still seems to write alot
about Jerry and it seems quite bitter. Or maybe he just misses having the odd conquest here and there?!?



I'm ready for the L'wren songs. I'm not so sure all Mick's songs are about Jerry - that relationship was the most public and i think that's why people assume they are, plus Jerry keeps telling everyone they are, but Mick's closet is filled with women from his past who he dissapointed and, like Gazza said, don't underestimate Keith's place in Jagger's box of inspirations.
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Reply #82 - Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:52pm
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Case in point "Party Doll"...hope this doesn't add fuel to Ian's "Mick is a cocksucker" theory Smiley
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Worth mentioning also that a few of the more world-weary reflective songs Jagger wrote which ended up on ABB were written originally for 'Alfie' but werent used - presumably they werent done in time or else he had greater plans for them.

'Laugh I Nearly Died' was certainly one, and I think 'Streets of Love' may have been another. When you think of the latter part of the plot of the movie, its quite feasible that 'Biggest Mistake' may well be another.

I honestly cant see Jagger pouring his soul out so openly on record about the demise of his marriage and how he fucked it up.
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Reply #84 - Aug 30th, 2010 at 3:41pm
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Gazza wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:53pm:
Worth mentioning also that a few of the more world-weary reflective songs Jagger wrote which ended up on ABB were written originally for 'Alfie' but werent used - presumably they werent done in time or else he had greater plans for them.

'Laugh I Nearly Died' was certainly one, and I think 'Streets of Love' may have been another. When you think of the latter part of the plot of the movie, its quite feasible that 'Biggest Mistake' may well be another.

I honestly cant see Jagger pouring his soul out so openly on record about the demise of his marriage and how he fucked it up.  


True.
I think Jagger often writes from his personal life, ie. Some Girls and his divorce, "my lady said the baby's dead...' etc..... But I don't think we can just assume that all his songs are so literally personal.  You mentioned a perfect example - he wrote the Alfie songs based on his talks with the director and each song was written in the context of certain scenes. As an artist, he writes from whatever moves him and that could be Keith or whomever. My point is that many people just assume all his 'relationship' songs about Jerry Hall and that seems shortsighted. Mick has many relationships, past, and present and most of those exist privately. With Jerry Hall, she is always talking about him, their relationship, then and now, how they talk all the time, how she still loves him etc...what songs are about her etc.... so the media just assumes they're all about her and that gets played up in the press.....but Mick Jagger has a closet full of past loves - she's just the only one who talks about it. I frankly find it annoying when women make these claims. Like Bebe Buel telling the world that Elvis Costello's "This Year's Model was all about her.....he put that claim to rest rather ungentlemenly at the time, but it must be irritating for an artist to have his art "claimed".
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texile wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 3:41pm:
Gazza wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:53pm:
Worth mentioning also that a few of the more world-weary reflective songs Jagger wrote which ended up on ABB were written originally for 'Alfie' but werent used - presumably they werent done in time or else he had greater plans for them.

'Laugh I Nearly Died' was certainly one, and I think 'Streets of Love' may have been another. When you think of the latter part of the plot of the movie, its quite feasible that 'Biggest Mistake' may well be another.

I honestly cant see Jagger pouring his soul out so openly on record about the demise of his marriage and how he fucked it up.  


True.
I think Jagger often writes from his personal life, ie. Some Girls and his divorce, "my lady said the baby's dead...' etc..... But I don't think we can just assume that all his songs are so literally personal.  You mentioned a perfect example - he wrote the Alfie songs based on his talks with the director and each song was written in the context of certain scenes. As an artist, he writes from whatever moves him and that could be Keith or whomever. My point is that many people just assume all his 'relationship' songs about Jerry Hall and that seems shortsighted. Mick has many relationships, past, and present and most of those exist privately. With Jerry Hall, she is always talking about him, their relationship, then and now, how they talk all the time, how she still loves him etc...what songs are about her etc.... so the media just assumes they're all about her and that gets played up in the press.....but Mick Jagger has a closet full of past loves - she's just the only one who talks about it. I frankly find it annoying when women make these claims. Like Bebe Buel telling the world that Elvis Costello's "This Year's Model was all about her.....he put that claim to rest rather ungentlemenly at the time, but it must be irritating for an artist to have his art "claimed".


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It is my opinion that most of the time Mick is just speaking about a "situation" with no two specific people in mind. I don't think he writes based on his "personal experiences" most of the time. I think Mick writes about general scenarios concerning lost loves, heart ache, ya-da ya-da. Possibly even fictional situations. To me, it doesn't seem as though he writes about his own personal romantic experiences much... maybe here and again but not much.

That's always how I took it. As well Mick writes about other people most of the time....not about himself or any issues with him it seems. I am sure he has at times written of himself ..or about Keith possibly... but in my opinion most of the time his writing is based on situations, general scenarios, or other people (like Dangerous Beauty) not himself.


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Reply #86 - Aug 31st, 2010 at 12:29pm
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I think Jagger does write from personal experience fairly often. After all, that's what gives the best songs a depth, makes them tangible. But my point was that there are many, many people - past and present - in his life to draw from, not just Jerry Hall.
All artists are inspired by the people in their lives and different songwriters work differently and then there are artists like Springsteen, who seem to write like a novelist would write: creating characters that speak to universal truths.
Who knows? Part of what makes it interesting is that we all have our own ideas about what songs are about what or about who and we all relate in different ways.
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Gazza wrote on Aug 30th, 2010 at 2:53pm:
When you think of the latter part of the plot of the movie, its quite feasible that 'Biggest Mistake' may well be another.


Biggest Mistake is a fairly fitting title for that whole movie and its accompanying soundtrack.
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I've been going through some Stones withdrawals.

For cereal, when the fuck are they gon' tour?
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It's sort of all in the Charlie in Paris thread.
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