texile wrote on Aug 30
th, 2010 at 3:41pm:
Gazza wrote on Aug 30
th, 2010 at 2:53pm:
Worth mentioning also that a few of the more world-weary reflective songs Jagger wrote which ended up on ABB were written originally for 'Alfie' but werent used - presumably they werent done in time or else he had greater plans for them.
'Laugh I Nearly Died' was certainly one, and I think 'Streets of Love' may have been another. When you think of the latter part of the plot of the movie, its quite feasible that 'Biggest Mistake' may well be another.
I honestly cant see Jagger pouring his soul out so openly on record about the demise of his marriage and how he fucked it up.
True.
I think Jagger often writes from his personal life, ie. Some Girls and his divorce,
"my lady said the baby's dead...' etc..... But I don't think we can just assume that all his songs are so literally personal. You mentioned a perfect example - he wrote the Alfie songs based on his talks with the director and each song was written in the context of certain scenes. As an artist, he writes from whatever moves him and that could be Keith or whomever. My point is that many people just assume all his 'relationship' songs about Jerry Hall and that seems shortsighted. Mick has many relationships, past, and present and most of those exist privately. With Jerry Hall, she is always talking about him, their relationship, then and now, how they talk all the time, how she still loves him etc...what songs are about her etc.... so the media just assumes they're all about her and that gets played up in the press.....but Mick Jagger has a closet full of past loves - she's just the only one who talks about it. I frankly find it annoying when women make these claims. Like Bebe Buel telling the world that Elvis Costello's "This Year's Model was all about her.....he put that claim to rest rather ungentlemenly at the time, but it must be irritating for an artist to have his art "claimed".
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It is my opinion that most of the time Mick is just speaking about a "situation" with no two specific people in mind. I don't think he writes based on his "personal experiences" most of the time. I think Mick writes about general scenarios concerning lost loves, heart ache, ya-da ya-da. Possibly even fictional situations. To me, it doesn't seem as though he writes about his own personal romantic experiences much... maybe here and again but not much.
That's always how I took it. As well Mick writes about other people most of the time....not about himself or any issues with him it seems. I am sure he has at times written of himself ..or about Keith possibly... but in my opinion most of the time his writing is based on situations, general scenarios, or other people (like Dangerous Beauty) not himself.
Ian