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Re: How often do you listen to Steel Wheels?
Reply #25 - Jul 19^th, 2010 at 4:16pm

texile wrote on Jul 19^th, 2010 at 2:18pm:

1989 was a stones resurgence and it was seminal for fans. After a string of crappy Mick solos and fights etc..the hype during that period was exiting. But it has dated, mainly due to what others have said, the thin, tinny 80s sound. However, Sad, Sad, Sad and Slipping Away are two of my favorite Stones songs so it had merit. Overall, in retrospect, it sounds thrown together for the sole sake of touring.

Too true. Having not been allowed to go to Buffalo on the Tattoo You tour (I was 14, and my older brother wouldn't take me....after a few years I understood why) I thought it was all over. So it felt like a miracle that they were back. The tour was great. The last with Bill and the last in the days before you knew the setlist in every other city before you went to the show in your town. I remember actually thinking "holy shit, I can't believe they're playing sympathy for the devil " The album....yeah I haven't really played it that much. The last time was about two or three years ago. I couldn't make it all the way through. There are good bits and pieces though. And Continental Drift was the best opening tape for a Stones concert ever.

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Re: How often do you listen to Steel Wheels?
Reply #29 - Jul 19^th, 2010 at 6:54pm

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Too true. Having not been allowed to go to Buffalo on the Tattoo You tour (I was 14, and my older brother wouldn't take me....after a few years I understood why) I thought it was all over. [/quote]

That seems to be a running theme here: I was 15 in 81 and my dad refused to let me go with my older, crazy cousin....he offered, but it was out of the question. I remember going to the Astrodome several times during the 80s and always felt like something was missing, having missed out on the second coming in 81. So when 89 rolled around, I was esctatic and that first time will never be rivaled. Its amazing how many os us are the same age.

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Reply #30 - Jul 19^th, 2010 at 7:00pm

I have to add that while i didn't get to go in 81, my crazy cousin, God bless him, bought me not one, but two concert shirts from the show and my mother drove to his mom's house to pick them up. The shows were on a Thursday and Friday and i managed to miss school both days, at home just listening to the Stones and imagining and watching the local news segments. I went back to school on Monday wearing my shirt, telling anybody who asked what a great show it was. It gave me a certain cache of cool. But I was a fraud.

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Re: How often do you listen to Steel Wheels?
Reply #32 - Jul 19^th, 2010 at 8:44pm

Oh YAH.

"Sad Sad Sad" – 3:35
"Mixed Emotions" – 4:38
"Terrifying" – 4:53
"Hold on to Your Hat" – 3:32
"Hearts for Sale" – 4:40
"Blinded by Love" – 4:37
"Rock and a Hard Place" – 5:25
"Can't Be Seen" – 4:09
"Almost Hear You Sigh" (Mick Jagger/Keith Richards/Steve Jordan) – 4:37
"Continental Drift" – 5:14
"Break the Spell" – 3:06
"Slipping Away" – 4:29

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MrPleasant Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 2,677 Xalapa, Veracruz, México Gender:	Re: How often do you listen to Steel Wheels? Reply #33 - Jul 20^th, 2010 at 12:40am I like this album. A lot. I don't listen to it quite frequently... maybe like once every two years, but "Can't Be Seen" or the last song are really good and they are proof that Keith Richards doesn't need Mick Jagger
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Re: How often do you listen to Steel Wheels?
Reply #34 - Jul 20^th, 2010 at 6:10am

Mel Belli wrote on Jul 19^th, 2010 at 6:18pm:

andrews27 wrote on Jul 19^th, 2010 at 5:13pm:

I listen to Steel Wheels 7 X 70 X 700 times more than ABB.

ABB was like a bad INXS album.

Ain't nothing wrong with INXS.

I mean bad, bad INXS. Every song on ABB sounds like a straining to reinvent the wheel. And the cock-rock songs sound old and age-inappropriate. At their age, Muddy Waters may have been howling his old get-laid songs...but was he grinding out new ones? Maybe these guys are better off refitting their cast-offs, as on Tattoo You and the Exile bonus disc.

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Mel Belli Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,298	Re: How often do you listen to Steel Wheels? Reply #35 - Jul 20^th, 2010 at 8:35am B2B felt more like a wheel-reinventing effort. "Might as Well Get Juiced," for example: an otherwise fine, simple blues number, ruined by a lot of trendy noise. On ABB, there was none of that. Did Mick sing about cock, tits, and booty with embarrassing frequency? Yes. But that's a different story.
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Re: How often do you listen to Steel Wheels?
Reply #36 - Jul 20^th, 2010 at 11:42am

lavendar wrote on Jul 19^th, 2010 at 8:44pm:

Oh YAH.

"Sad Sad Sad" – 3:35
"Mixed Emotions" – 4:38
"Terrifying" – 4:53
"Hold on to Your Hat" – 3:32
"Hearts for Sale" – 4:40
"Blinded by Love" – 4:37
"Rock and a Hard Place" – 5:25
"Can't Be Seen" – 4:09
"Almost Hear You Sigh" (Mick Jagger/Keith Richards/Steve Jordan) – 4:37
"Continental Drift" – 5:14
"Break the Spell" – 3:06
"Slipping Away" – 4:29

Half of it is ok,the other half,not so much.

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Reply #37 - Jul 20^th, 2010 at 12:06pm

texile wrote on Jul 19^th, 2010 at 7:00pm:

I went back to school on Monday wearing my shirt, telling anybody who asked what a great show it was. It gave me a certain cache of cool. But I was a fraud.

Haha! I got the tour program book! My brother kept the shirt. Same reaction, same feeling.

Later I found out he and his friends all dropped acid at the show, so no wonder he didn't take me, but amazing he didn't lose the program. I still have it.

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Re: How often do you listen to Steel Wheels?
Reply #39 - Jul 20^th, 2010 at 2:35pm

MrPleasant wrote on Jul 20^th, 2010 at 12:40am:

I like this album.

A lot.

I don't listen to it quite frequently... maybe like once every two years, but "Can't Be Seen" or the last song are really good and they are proof that Keith Richards doesn't need Mick Jagger

But that's just two songs Mr.Pleasant....out of 12.

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Reply #40 - Jul 20^th, 2010 at 2:43pm

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I mean bad, bad INXS. Every song on ABB sounds like a straining to reinvent the wheel. And the cock-rock songs sound old and age-inappropriate. At their age, Muddy Waters may have been howling his old get-laid songs...but was he grinding out new ones? Maybe these guys are better off refitting their cast-offs, as on Tattoo You and the Exile bonus disc.
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Sadly, that's my take too. Jagger started singing exclusively about sex in the 80s, with a few exceptions.
It's like he had somehow stopped evolving intellectually after Undercover. And that explains what happened to the Stones' decline throughout the 80s, 90s, 00s.....I'm fine with another reissue as opposed to a new release if that's all he has to offer now. Then again, PMS is a great song, so maybe Jagger will enter a new phase in his life and we will be rewarded with intelligent, soulful lyrics....
Jagger's stunted growth kept the Stones from growing musically and, IMO, is the reason they lost their cultural relevance, despite the big money-making tours. Its a subject that has yet to be fully explored. WTF happened to Mick Jagger after 83?

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Re: How often do you listen to Steel Wheels?
Reply #43 - Jul 22^nd, 2010 at 2:34am

Steel Wheel was thrilling to hear during that year (1989) because The Stones had returned. Personally I never listen to it as an album anymore and haven't since 1990-91.

Steel Wheels is a soundtrack to an enormous tour rather than an album that stands on it's own. While not a terrible album I find it mediocre besides a few good tracks. It has this fastly recorded 1989 slick production that, while at the time was fresh sounding, could of been much, much better as a whole if only they would of reconciled 6 months earlier. Not a failure or disappointment of an album but it was no Exile on Main Street...

It is quite experimental in a few places which I appreciate. I will say it has a certain "place" and it definitely has a theme. Every time you hear a song from it you get taken back to 1989 which is nice because you reminisce. 1989 with The Stones was a dream come true. Magical year.

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Reply #45 - Jul 22^nd, 2010 at 9:38pm

" The Stones opened the tour in Philly. They love opening tours here. September 1989 was crazy. Hells Angels showed up here to protest them, radio stations played Stones all the time, newspaper people followed them....it was great. Local news channels were on the beat too. It really was a magical time "

I have heard that Philly is a Great Rock n ' Roll Town !!!!

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Joey wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2010 at 9:38pm:

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