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Re: Lady Ga-Ga !     ....from Ian
Reply #25 - Jul 18th, 2010 at 7:04pm
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I think she has talent, which is more than can be said of a lot of the pop singers out there. She will be around for a long time, she is this generation's Maddona. She will fade some like Madonna, but she  has talent and brains. We can expect to see and hear of her for many years.
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Reply #26 - Jul 18th, 2010 at 7:08pm
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Wild Bill wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 4:06pm:
Ian Billen wrote on Jul 17th, 2010 at 11:29pm:
Lady Ga-Ga's work can be described in three words: ... catchy, edgy, and artistic.

Her music caught my ear a couple of years ago and ever since I've been nothing but impressed.

Ga-Ga sounds and appears like Madonna meets Marlyn Manson. It is Pop music with a dark undertone.

Yeah it's Pop with a dance/techno theme but guess what  .... I like pop music and Ga-Ga is by far and away the best out there.
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How do you reconcile this with your love of the Rolling Stones who haven't been "pop" for 43 years?

What other bullshit disco music enamors you?

Amy Rigby is pop and for me is much more palatable than Stefani Germanotta.  

By the way, I ain't braggin', but I used to work with Gag-a's mom, Cynthia Bissett, back in the '90s at MFS Telecommunications.   Cynthia was a sales person in NYC.







I don't have to reconcile anything with The Rolling Stones. The Rolling Stones have nothing to do with Lady Ga-Ga or vice verca...

I just noted I dig her, and I think she's got a lot of talent. As far as Pop music goes .... OK so it is manufactured, shallow, and not to be taken too seriously. The recording of it lacks in dynamics and everything's compressed to the hilt. Yeah ... anymore Pop is even worse with 16 or 17 year old kids trying to make a statement.

But I like a lot of it and I always have. I don't take it seriously (who could) but I listen to it and enjoy it.

I like a more than a hand full of different music genre's. Country, a touch of some folk, blues, some gospel, lots of punk, hard rock, classical, even a bit of disco when the time is right or every blue moon ....and yes Pop.



My neighbor wrote a song and plays guitar on it. He is 56. He will never be a rock star. He will never be taken seriously. The song will never be a number one hit. But guess what .... it has a nice hook, a good distorted guitar sound,  and some funny yet even introspective lyrics. It is a bit catchy, and the melody is unique. I was surprised.

I listened to it. I like it. End of story... Same is true for my liking of pop music.

*Everyone always looks down or makes fun of folks who listen to current top 40 radio? Why? Nobody says you have to rank these artists in the top ten acts of all time. Nobody says you have to take it seriously. Hell, nobody says you have to buy any of it. It is simply called listening and enjoying it is all.

Maybe it is an ego thing any more, ..I don't know (not meaning in your case Wild Bill) but really ... why analyze or make fun of it if nobody's claiming today's pop, or any era's pop is the greatest stuff since Beethoven's Fifth Symphony.  


Now as far as The Rolling Stones go?.... I realize this is a Rolling Stones message board and all but as I said .... what does this post , today's pop music, or Lady Ga-Ga have to do with them in any way?

Just sayin I liked her and felt she was a step above the rest out there in top 40 land is all...

Speaking of which how was Lady Ga-Ga's mom?? Nice lady? Strange? Did she ever mention her daughter?


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Re: Lady Ga-Ga !     ....from Ian
Reply #27 - Jul 18th, 2010 at 9:29pm
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Ian Billen wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 7:08pm:
Speaking of which how was Lady Ga-Ga's mom?? Nice lady? Strange? Did she ever mention her daughter?
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Good lady.  Friendly, successful salesperson.   I didn't know about the daughter till she was a superstar.  But a guy I know in suburban Philly knows Cynthia much better than I do. 

I like a lot of genres of music too - dozens that many casual listeners of music (like people who would not be in one of these music discussion forums) have never heard of, but I guess my main point is that as someone way into middle age, I don't have an attraction to mindless pop music anymore and I wouldn't think that other serious Rolling Stones music listeners would either. 

But the human mind is capable of millions of strange feats!

So, God love ya.

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Reply #28 - Jul 18th, 2010 at 9:55pm
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I've been to the Monster Ball twice...once at Radio City Music Hall and then 10 days ago at MSG. This kid is the real deal. She has all of Madonna's stage presence and ambition, with some notable differences: she is more accomplished musically than Madonna, and she truly loves and appreciates her fans. She connects with her Little Monsters on a level that Madonna never cared to.

I once heard her say that she believes in affirmations. She used to tell herself every day, "you will have a number one record" at a time when there was little likelihood of it happening. She ended up with 5 in one year.

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Reply #29 - Jul 19th, 2010 at 1:04am
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Wild Bill wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 9:29pm:
Ian Billen wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 7:08pm:
Speaking of which how was Lady Ga-Ga's mom?? Nice lady? Strange? Did she ever mention her daughter?
Ian

Good lady.  Friendly, successful salesperson.   I didn't know about the daughter till she was a superstar.  But a guy I know in suburban Philly knows Cynthia much better than I do.  

I like a lot of genres of music too - dozens that many casual listeners of music (like people who would not be in one of these music discussion forums) have never heard of, but I guess my main point is that as someone way into middle age, I don't have an attraction to mindless pop music anymore and I wouldn't think that other serious Rolling Stones music listeners would either.  

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Well Thank you Wild Bill. The reason I gave such a long explanation of why I like pop music is because I knew many would jump all over this so I figured to get my explanation all out there right off the bat.

Anyway,
I suppose the reason I like pop music is it's fun (< as stupid as this sounds..) and it makes me feel young. I'm not one of those people who talk, dress or act younger than I am (Thankfully...hah) but I do like the way Pop makes me feel. Subconsciously it makes me feel kina young again and it does put me in a good mood and the beats, melodies, and choruses are catchy to my ears so I like it. Also I know it really doesn't mean anything. Kina like singing in the shower or something. I take 90% of today's Pop literally about as serious as that. Literally about as serious as me in the shower. I put the radio on when I clean the house or when I'm driving to work and back. And singing in the shower does make you feel alright. We've all done it at times a bit. So does Pop music to me.  It's the same effect. That pretty much sums it up.

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Reply #30 - Jul 19th, 2010 at 1:14am
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Heart Of Stone wrote on Jul 18th, 2010 at 6:50am:
There's Madonna, Britney Spears, & now Lady Ga Ga, in 7 years she'll be forgotten & then another female will be taking over, probably copying Lady Ga Ga only a step further, just another pop star who will be forgotten about in 10 years.


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I see where your coming from and you could be right. HOWEVER what separates Ga-Ga from Madonna and Brittany Spears is she is much more accomplished musically and she is quite versatile. As well she takes her work more on a serious level than Madonna and Spears did initially, early in their fame. She is more involved than even Madonna was in her early years of fame at directing her stage show and being involved with her videos and all the details of her performances and music. From the creation of her show to the conception of her albums she is all over it. Writing it, Directing etc. etc.


So I think she has some promise especially since she is now showing she can do other things and pull it off great besides just Techno like Dance tunes. That is what finally sold me 100% on her.

*As well ...she doesn't lip sync as was noted here earlier. She actually
sings and she's darn good singing while dancing to the different songs she does. She's got lots of talent I'm tellin ya.

And just plain and simply ...I think her music is a cut above the rest in today's pop market.


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Reply #31 - Jul 19th, 2010 at 2:14am
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Telephone - Lady GaGa feat. Beyonce  Smiley Smiley Smiley

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Reply #32 - Jul 19th, 2010 at 5:31am
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Ian, you will be greeted with a swift kick in the ass...
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Reply #33 - Jul 19th, 2010 at 7:26am
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a cut above the rest in todays pop market still doesnt get you to the rim of the toilet imho.........
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Reply #34 - Jul 19th, 2010 at 9:28am
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a cut above the rest in todays pop market still doesnt get you to the rim of the toilet imho.........

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Reply #35 - Jul 19th, 2010 at 10:17am
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Not a comment on Lady Ga-Ga as such, but its a pretty sorry state of affairs when any artist manages to get plaudits for writing songs and singing live instead of lip-synching.

Its not as if they've reinvented the wheel.
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Reply #36 - Jul 19th, 2010 at 10:43am
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Christ we need a tour.............

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Reply #37 - Jul 19th, 2010 at 12:24pm
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Marlyn Manson outraged the church for tearing up bibles, Lady Ga Ga outrages the church for standing for gay rights.
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Reply #38 - Jul 19th, 2010 at 12:38pm
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Telephone - Lady GaGa feat. Beyonce  Smiley Smiley Smiley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW1JP7qNPw8


her videos are wild, lots of s&m, occult and illuminati symbolism
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Reply #39 - Jul 19th, 2010 at 12:40pm
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Not a comment on Lady Ga-Ga as such, but its a pretty sorry state of affairs when any artist manages to get plaudits for writing songs and singing live instead of lip-synching.

Its not as if they've reinvented the wheel.


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Lady Ga-Ga is the real thing. She does a fantastic acoustic piano version of Paparazzi that sounds like as mournful as Judy Garland. And as for reconciling liking something like this with being a Stones fan: how can a Stones fan reconcile rigid tastes? You can bet Jagger has been listening to Lady Ga Ga.
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Lady Ga-Ga is the real thing. She does a fantastic acoustic piano version of Paparazzi that sounds like as mournful as Judy Garland. And as for reconciling liking something like this with being a Stones fan: how can a Stones fan reconcile rigid tastes? You can bet Jagger has been listening to Lady Ga Ga.



so she'll be guesting  on some dates on the next tour?
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Reply #42 - Jul 19th, 2010 at 3:15pm
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so she'll be guesting  on some dates on the next tour?


No, but I'm kinda hoping they'll give Lisa a break and give this girl a go on back-up vocals  Cheesy

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Lady Ga-Ga is the real thing. She does a fantastic acoustic piano version of Paparazzi that sounds like as mournful as Judy Garland. And as for reconciling liking something like this with being a Stones fan: how can a Stones fan reconcile rigid tastes? You can bet Jagger has been listening to Lady Ga Ga.



so she'll be guesting  on some dates on the next tour?


at least she should be better than kanye West ffs..............how could it be worse?
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Reply #44 - Jul 19th, 2010 at 3:26pm
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mojoman wrote on Jul 19th, 2010 at 3:05pm:
so she'll be guesting  on some dates on the next tour?


No, but I'm kinda hoping they'll give Lisa a break and give this girl a go on back-up vocals  Cheesy

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Reply #45 - Jul 19th, 2010 at 3:28pm
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mojoman wrote on Jul 19th, 2010 at 3:05pm:
texile wrote on Jul 19th, 2010 at 2:29pm:
Lady Ga-Ga is the real thing. She does a fantastic acoustic piano version of Paparazzi that sounds like as mournful as Judy Garland. And as for reconciling liking something like this with being a Stones fan: how can a Stones fan reconcile rigid tastes? You can bet Jagger has been listening to Lady Ga Ga.



so she'll be guesting  on some dates on the next tour?


at least she should be better than kanye West ffs..............how could it be worse?




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Reply #46 - Jul 19th, 2010 at 3:33pm
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Man look at those thighs. they'd squash you like a grape....What a way to go Who stole this one? (Seriously)



Thunder Thighs indeed! The girl is the absolute full-package: heavenly, lustful, yearning vocal styling’s and a bootylicious body.

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Reply #47 - Jul 19th, 2010 at 4:00pm
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texile wrote on Jul 19th, 2010 at 2:29pm:
Lady Ga-Ga is the real thing. She does a fantastic acoustic piano version of Paparazzi that sounds like as mournful as Judy Garland. And as for reconciling liking something like this with being a Stones fan: how can a Stones fan reconcile rigid tastes? You can bet Jagger has been listening to Lady Ga Ga.



so she'll be guesting  on some dates on the next tour?


Why not? My point being that those who mock 'pop' acts or anything that falls out of the realm of 'authenticity', forget that the Stones have always been about popularity, as the Beatles were.
Mick and Keith have always been more attuned to whatever constitutes contemporary 'pop' at any given time. Keith maybe less so, but the Jagger, in particular, is always listening.
The Stones have never been about not being pop. , never.
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Reply #48 - Jul 19th, 2010 at 9:01pm
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Ahhhh come on. It is such an ego thing to say anything Pop is so horrid.

Everyone here raved about Lucinda Williams well ..

I do not see the big deal. Lucinda Williams writes her muic, sings and plays the guitar...

Lady Ga-Ga writes her music, sings, and plays the piano...

Besides musical styles what is the difference? It is just all in someones particular cup of tea.

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As was already stated here ...it isn't like The Stones never did anything that didn't have certain Pop qualities or at least Pop sensability because they have. Certainly The Stones are not considered Pop music per say but they didn't  turn their nose to it at certain junctures of their career either. It was incorporated into their music too in one way or another before and ya'll still dig The Stones so really ...what's the issue?



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I'd rather listen to Radio GaGa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FNoIDgNE6o
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