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you get 2 grand a kid here and they know it.
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Bob's take on Barack's comforts for illegals.

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Nellcote wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 1:50pm:
Bob's take on Barack's comforts for illegals.

http://www.youtube.com/user/drinkingwithbob#p/u/1/x8upCLpPlV0



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Some Guy wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 1:49pm:
you get 2 grand a kid here and they know it.


When I was laid off last summer, I could not get food stamps because I had already made too much money earlier that year, but many non english speakers up at my grocery store are always using food stamps.
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Tumbled wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 2:18pm:
Some Guy wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 1:49pm:
you get 2 grand a kid here and they know it.


When I was laid off last summer, I could not get food stamps because I had already made too much money earlier that year, but many non english speakers up at my grocery store are always using food stamps.


Illegal aliens do not qualify for government programs.  Just because they were speaking Spanish, does not mean they were illegal aliens.  Puerto Ricans speak Spanish and they are American citizens.

Bottomline:  I think that nothing is going to make y'all change your mind.  It is obvious that you hate Mexicans, regardless of legal status.  Whether they've been here for generations or if they just crossed over yesterday.  You hate them, because they don't look like you.  How sad!

P.S.  Did you guys even bother to read  my posts or the links to the articles or at least look at the video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6b4564ZeLQ&feature=related

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Reply #55 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 2:46pm Alert Board Moderator about this Post! 
Just how fucked is our border problem?

Well, read this, and watch the accompanying video as well. Too bad that politics is the only thing keeping us from enforcing our own laws. Obummer and the Dems want these poor Mexicans here. They want to grant them all amnesty, and put them all on the government tit. To what end? Why votes, of course!!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/16/closes-park-land-mexico-border-americans/



While it's sad that a 15 year old kid got shot. What about all the murders committed by these drug smugglers, and coyotes on a daily basis? Oh, and the kid that was shot had a rap sheet a mile long, and he had already been arrested twice for human smuggling! Where are all of the pictures of the innocent Americans in Arizona that have been killed by these illegals, gorda? Beheadings, kidnappings, and murders are rife in that state, and you want us to feel bad because a 15 year old criminal was shot by an overworked border patrol agent who was being pelted with rocks? Sorry, I'll save my sympathy for the victims that are purely innocent, this kid was far from innocent. Did he deserve to die? Probably not, but he should not have been smuggling people over our border illegally, and he should have never picked up the damn rocks!



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gorda wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 2:43pm:
Tumbled wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 2:18pm:
Some Guy wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 1:49pm:
you get 2 grand a kid here and they know it.


When I was laid off last summer, I could not get food stamps because I had already made too much money earlier that year, but many non english speakers up at my grocery store are always using food stamps.


Illegal aliens do not qualify for government programs.  Just because they were speaking Spanish, does not mean they were illegal aliens.  Puerto Ricans speak Spanish and they are American citizens.

Bottomline:  I think that nothing is going to make y'all change your mind.  It is obvious that you hate Mexicans, regardless of legal status.  Whether they've been here for generations or if they just crossed over yesterday.  You hate them, because they don't look like you.  How sad!

P.S.  Did you guys even bother to read  my posts or the links to the articles or at least look at the video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6b4564ZeLQ&feature=related

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That is not fair, or true! Since when has Mexico opened it's borders for all of the poor, uneducated, illiterate Guatemalans, Ecuadorians, and Hondurans to pour over the border?!


In Los Angeles alone over 20 hospitals have been forced to close over the last five years because they can't afford to deal with the free service that they must provide by US law! So they just shut the doors. 20 hospitals in LA alone! Now what do the legal Americans that relied on those hospitals to do, gorda?


Is there a law in Mexico where hospitals must provide treatment for illegal Hondurans? Hell no!


The hypocrisy is stunning! We are being flooded by generations entitlement minded illegals, and you say we are the bad guys?!?! It's the American tax payer that is footing the bill for millions of people that have zero legal right to be here. We are the ones watching our property values drop, and our crime rates soar, and instead of seeing the problem from our perspective you just immediatley play the race card?! With all due respect, that's crap, gorda.


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Maybe we should all listen to this song?


SALT OF THE EARTH
M. Jagger/K. Richards)

Let's drink to the hard working people
Let's drink to the lowly of birth
Raise your glass to the good and the evil
Let's drink to the salt of the earth

Say a prayer for the common foot soldier
Spare a thought for his back breaking work
Say a prayer for his wife and his children
Who burn the fires and who still till the earth

And when I search a faceless crowd
A swirling mass of gray and black and white
They don't look real to me
In fact, they look so strange

Raise your glass to the hard working people
Let's drink to the uncounted heads
Let's think of the wavering millions
Who need leaders but get gamblers instead

Spare a thought for the stay-at-home voter
His empty eyes gaze at strange beauty shows
And a parade of the gray suited grafters
A choice of cancer or polio

And when I look in the faceless crowd
A swirling mass of grays and black and white
They don't look real to me
Or don't they look so strange

Let's drink to the hard working people
Let's think of the lowly of birth
Spare a thought for the rag taggy people
Let's drink to the salt of the earth

Let's drink to the hard working people
Let's drink to the salt of the earth
Let's drink to the two thousand million
Let's think of the humble of birth 

Lets raise our drink
To the salt of the earth
Lets raise our drink
To the salt of the earth.......
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Reply #58 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 3:33pm Alert Board Moderator about this Post! 
Riffhard, I have no control over the Mexican government.  (Just like you don't have control over the Irish government, Polish government, German government.)

P.S.  Mexicans, Mexican-Americans, Latin people, we pay taxes, too.  Especially, me, since I have no dependants!

I'm tired.  This conversation is a waste of time.  I have a lot of more constructive things to do.
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Reply #59 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 3:36pm Alert Board Moderator about this Post! 
The struggle between the "haves" and the "have nots". Unfortunately, it's part of Human History.
. . . sigh . . .

Grapes of Wrath:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYFJmm0aK-8&feature=fvw

Angela's Ashes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zLpf1XDNko

Schindler's List:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAH3RTRlCHY

The French Revolution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbpXOM4SbGM
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What does Schindler's List have to do with this? I am certainly not advocating gassing people.
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England is also experiencing mass immigration. To have to live in increasingly crushing crowded situations with no relief in sight is very depressing.
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ijwthstd wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 3:50pm:
What does Schindler's List have to do with this? I am certainly not advocating gassing people.


It's sad that you don't see the connection.  I posted the link to this video that explains it all in plain English.  (I don't think anyone bothered to watch it.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6b4564ZeLQ&feature=related

The Nazi did not immediately start killing Jewish people.  It started slowly with certain laws that limited their freedom.  One particular law forced all Jews to wear a yellow band with the Star of David.  And, they always had to have i.d. in case a Nazi officer or any other official requested it. 

Let's call it what it is:  RACISM!  DISCRIMINATION!  XENOPHOBIA!

I see white people with German accents, Russian accents, etc.  They are obviously immigrants.  Why doesn't anyone check their legal status?
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gorda wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 4:05pm:
ijwthstd wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 3:50pm:
What does Schindler's List have to do with this? I am certainly not advocating gassing people.


It's sad that you don't see the connection.  I posted the link to this video that explains it all in plain English.  (I don't think anyone bothered to watch it.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6b4564ZeLQ&feature=related

The Nazi did not immediately start killing Jewish people.  It started slowly with certain laws that limited their freedom.  One particular law forced all Jews to wear a yellow band with the Star of David.  And, they always had to have i.d. in case a Nazi officer or any other official requested it.  

Let's call it what it is:  RACISM!  DISCRIMINATION!  XENOPHOBIA!

I see white people with German accents, Russian accents, etc.  They are obviously immigrants.  Why doesn't anyone check their legal status?

do you live in the USA?
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Some Guy wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 4:08pm:
gorda wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 4:05pm:
ijwthstd wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 3:50pm:
What does Schindler's List have to do with this? I am certainly not advocating gassing people.


It's sad that you don't see the connection.  I posted the link to this video that explains it all in plain English.  (I don't think anyone bothered to watch it.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6b4564ZeLQ&feature=related

The Nazi did not immediately start killing Jewish people.  It started slowly with certain laws that limited their freedom.  One particular law forced all Jews to wear a yellow band with the Star of David.  And, they always had to have i.d. in case a Nazi officer or any other official requested it.  

Let's call it what it is:  RACISM!  DISCRIMINATION!  XENOPHOBIA!

I see white people with German accents, Russian accents, etc.  They are obviously immigrants.  Why doesn't anyone check their legal status?

do you live in the USA?


Actually, I am living in Japan right now?
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Reply #65 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 4:14pm Alert Board Moderator about this Post! 
gorda wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 4:09pm:
Some Guy wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 4:08pm:
gorda wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 4:05pm:
ijwthstd wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 3:50pm:
What does Schindler's List have to do with this? I am certainly not advocating gassing people.


It's sad that you don't see the connection.  I posted the link to this video that explains it all in plain English.  (I don't think anyone bothered to watch it.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6b4564ZeLQ&feature=related

The Nazi did not immediately start killing Jewish people.  It started slowly with certain laws that limited their freedom.  One particular law forced all Jews to wear a yellow band with the Star of David.  And, they always had to have i.d. in case a Nazi officer or any other official requested it.  

Let's call it what it is:  RACISM!  DISCRIMINATION!  XENOPHOBIA!

I see white people with German accents, Russian accents, etc.  They are obviously immigrants.  Why doesn't anyone check their legal status?

do you live in the USA?


Actually, I am living in Japan right now?

I like Mexicans, I've even had to contract illegal Mexican workers. I like them all. I'm angry at our government and mainly at the Mexican government.
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Reply #66 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 4:15pm Alert Board Moderator about this Post! 
Bottomline:

A 14 year old boy is dead!  Gone!  He is never going home to his mama!

And, not one of you showed any kind of sympathy or shared condolences for his death.

Have you people lost all compassion and ability to care for the plight of another human being!

Now, that is really sad!

http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml?cid=2430065
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Japan is know for it's Xenophobia policy. Japanese citizens with Korean last names are not considered real Japanese citizens unless they change their last name to a Japanese last name.
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gorda, you've got to take off the rose colored glasses. A whole lot worse goes unreported. This is going to get even worse.
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Bingo wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 4:16pm:
Japan is know for it's Xenophobia policy. Japanese citizens with Korean last names are not considered real Japanese citizens unless they change their last name to a Japanese last name.



Hello?  I'm just messing with that guy!

P.S.  This conflict has been going on for centuries!
Why can't people just get along!

Click on the second video:
"Henry Louis Gates Jr. reveals the Longoria family struggles to protect their land from encroachment by Anglos settlers in 19th century Texas."

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/profiles/eva-longoria/8/
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..and I'm just adding information.    taylor made smile
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Reply #71 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 4:27pm Alert Board Moderator about this Post! 
I guess you haven't heard of any of these stories Gorda:
http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/15/world/la-fg-mexico-shootings15-2010mar15
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29095730/
And a video for you as well http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/americans-13-brutally-mexico-10099582
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ijwthstd wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 3:50pm:
What does Schindler's List have to do with this? I am certainly not advocating gassing people.


The Holocaust and persecution of the Jews happened in stages.  The first stage was passing legislation that limited their rights.

The anti-Semitic laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws

The Holocaust:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust
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Reply #73 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 4:38pm Alert Board Moderator about this Post! 
gorda wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 4:28pm:
ijwthstd wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 3:50pm:
What does Schindler's List have to do with this? I am certainly not advocating gassing people.


The Holocaust and persecution of the Jews happened in stages.  The first stage was passing legislation that limited their rights.

The anti-Semitic laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Laws

The Holocaust:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust

This post is sitting comfortably in the clubhouse with the lead for stretch of the decade!

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gorda wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 4:05pm:
ijwthstd wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 3:50pm:
What does Schindler's List have to do with this? I am certainly not advocating gassing people.


It's sad that you don't see the connection.  I posted the link to this video that explains it all in plain English.  (I don't think anyone bothered to watch it.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6b4564ZeLQ&feature=related ;


I can't watch video where I am and won't be home for several hours (or days).

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The Nazi did not immediately start killing Jewish people.  It started slowly with certain laws that limited their freedom.  One particular law forced all Jews to wear a yellow band with the Star of David.  And, they always had to have i.d. in case a Nazi officer or any other official requested it.  


Yeah, spare me, I know all about it. If things get bad, they can always return home. No one is going to invade Mexico and points south to carry out a 21st century holocaust.


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I see white people with German accents, Russian accents, etc.  They are obviously immigrants.  Why doesn't anyone check their legal status?


A guitarist for a local rock band was recently deported back to Sweden. I knew a guy from the Balkans who only liked to panhandle cheap/free concert tickets who was also sent back home even though he married a citizen.
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