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Some Guy wrote on Jun 14th, 2010 at 2:57pm:
What would you do if 20 thousand people were crossing your border nightly, illegally?.


20,000 people crossing the border nightly?  Seriously dude!  Even you know that is a MAJOR EXXAGERATION!

The truth is that it is less about "illegal immigration" and more about racism and discrimination.  

Furthermore, there are many people in prominent positions who do not want the illegals to go away.  

Starting with the billion dollar ag business.  Would you be willing to pick strawberries for 90 cents a basket?  Of course, not.  Go visit a strawberry field sometime.  Or an apple orchard!  Or a vineyard! There are no white people or black people.  It's all Mexicans!

Then, another billion dollar business, the hotel and restaurant business.  Who cleans the rooms in all the hotels?  It's Latin women!  I've never seen a white woman or a black woman doing this job.  (Except for when I went to England, I did see some black maids and a white maid!  Which completely shocked me!)  

Then, the restaurants, the "head chef" and waitresses may all be white, but the ones doing all the actual cooking are Mexican men!  (Ask Anthony Bourdain, reknown celebrity chef!)

Another, the billion dollar construction business.  The architects and contracters are all legal and licensed, but the ones doing the actually building are all predominately Mexican!

Finally, the billion dollar, fashion industry.  The focus is always on the designers and the models, but no one ever thinks of those Latin women and men who actually make the clothes!

So, you see, a lot of important people don't want to see the illegals leave.
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Reply #27 - Jun 14th, 2010 at 11:55pm
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You don't have to list the menial work, in NYC, most of the finest restaurants you go to, all ethnic levels, the Mexicans run the entire kitchen. From Head Chef, sous chef, line workers, prep and dishwashers.

I find it funny that this country is trying to keep out the most dedicated and hardest workers out there, not to mention the close strong family unit.

Besides, we're all illegal immigrants in this country. Hate, lies and deception in Washington DC concern me a helleva lot more then people looking for a better future for themselves and their family!
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Thank you Bingo and Voodoo Chile for your eloquent and insightful comments!  I appreciate it!
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If you don't want that Border Agent in the US please send him to UK Border Agency.
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you hit the nail on the head with the Xenophobia, as a whole I'm pissed, but when it comes to individuals in my daily life, no I have no ill feelings... like I said before, bottom line is money. Untaxed and then a great deal is sent back to Mexico, but services in the USA are consumed and used for free... that is what I am mad about. A big problem in USA is people just think they are entitled. I'm not talking just entitlement govt. programs.. I'm talking on all levels and people of all economic classes... a big part of the problem is people expecting this cheap labor, and then you have the people coming over to do the work. Both parties feel entitled to what they can take from the system... do the poor workers get fucked? Hell yes, always the case histrorically... the solution has nothing to do with the problem, and as long as we try to spend money keeping out people, we will be wasting the money and creating a criminal industry. The solution is based in employers and consumers and the ability to collect fair taxes and impose fees to be allowed to here while working. And the gripe that it will cost more is bullshit... just like we have cheap gas, and now have a huge bill to pay to clean it up, or with drugs the immense cost of the problems dealing with drime, there is a huge price being paid for what we think is cheap fruit... hopefully people see my position isn't one against human rights, in fact, my position is one that i feel will give people some rights and some not fuck over anyone else in the process...
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Reply #31 - Jun 15th, 2010 at 2:14pm
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Mexico is a mess with the drug cartels running things. I'd flee too. A quicker less costly form of immigration would actually help the US economy and get more people on the tax rolls. Many work much harder at menial jobs than long term residents who have worked their way down to those jobs. Killing people is never the answer and people that advocate that are jaded and as much a pervert as anyone who molests a kid imo. (off my soap box now)
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lotsajizz wrote on Jun 14th, 2010 at 8:30pm:
The USA will cease to meaningfully exist if the borders are not defended with TERMINAL intenisty.  It is time.  Shoot to kill.

You say "the USA will cease to meaningfully exist" as if that were a bad thing.
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Brainbell Jangler wrote on Jun 15th, 2010 at 3:26pm:
lotsajizz wrote on Jun 14th, 2010 at 8:30pm:
The USA will cease to meaningfully exist if the borders are not defended with TERMINAL intenisty.  It is time.  Shoot to kill.

You say "the USA will cease to meaningfully exist" as if that were a bad thing.  




Bam! Well that explains just about everything about you BJ. Can't say as I'm shocked by your contempt for your own country, but still it is very enlightening to see such a strong supporter, and Harvard buddy, of Barack's come to the conclusion that the USA is inherently a bad country. Two peas, and all that, I suppose. Seems the only history of this nation that you two ever soaked up was how god (note little g) awful we have been for mankind!


The USA will cease to exist if we allow millions of largely uneducated, menial skilled, undocumented, and illegal immigrants to cross the border at will. It will finacially bankrupt the country, and ruin our society, and our way of life forever. So by your estimation BJ, we, the USA, are the bad guys here?! Are you nuts?!

I'm all for immigration providing that it is done legally, and that everyone waits in the same line to get in. You want to see some draconian immigration laws? Then look no further than Mexico's own law! What Arizona is doing is simply mirroring the current US federal law that has been on the books for decades. In fact, the federal law is more restrictive than the Arizona law is. The only reason that so many people are up in arms about it is because the leftists open borders crowds , and groups like La Raza know full well that unlike the federal government, Arizona will enforce this law! And God bless them for it! Note capital G.


BJ let me guess, if Israel disappeared, and the USA would cease to exist as a world leader then all would be well in your little socialist nirvana, right? We could all live like those happy Cubans, or Venezuelans, right? They are only suffering because of us, right?

Boy howdy! Harvard sure does turn out some kind of geniuses, huh?!



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gorda wrote on Jun 14th, 2010 at 11:34pm:
Some Guy wrote on Jun 14th, 2010 at 2:57pm:
What would you do if 20 thousand people were crossing your border nightly, illegally?.


20,000 people crossing the border nightly?  Seriously dude!  Even you know that is a MAJOR EXXAGERATION!

The truth is that it is less about "illegal immigration" and more about racism and discrimination.  

Furthermore, there are many people in prominent positions who do not want the illegals to go away.  

Starting with the billion dollar ag business.  Would you be willing to pick strawberries for 90 cents a basket?  Of course, not.  Go visit a strawberry field sometime.  Or an apple orchard!  Or a vineyard! There are no white people or black people.  It's all Mexicans!

Then, another billion dollar business, the hotel and restaurant business.  Who cleans the rooms in all the hotels?  It's Latin women!  I've never seen a white woman or a black woman doing this job.  (Except for when I went to England, I did see some black maids and a white maid!  Which completely shocked me!)  

Then, the restaurants, the "head chef" and waitresses may all be white, but the ones doing all the actual cooking are Mexican men!  (Ask Anthony Bourdain, reknown celebrity chef!)

Another, the billion dollar construction business.  The architects and contracters are all legal and licensed, but the ones doing the actually building are all predominately Mexican!

Finally, the billion dollar, fashion industry.  The focus is always on the designers and the models, but no one ever thinks of those Latin women and men who actually make the clothes!

So, you see, a lot of important people don't want to see the illegals leave.


Yep, 10-20K daily is what I've heard and seen, some up to 50K. Thus the term invasion I used earlier. It's fucked and I have no solution.
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Reply #36 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 8:03am
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Some Guy wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 7:15am:
It's fucked and I have no solution.


It’s easy:
  • Don’t want illegal immigrants: Don’t hire them!
  • Don’t want problems hiring illegal immigrants: Legalize them!
  • Don’t want Mexican mafia and their weed, heroin and cocaine: Don’t buy them!


Ouch!

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Reply #37 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 8:09am
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Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 8:03am:
Some Guy wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 7:15am:
It's fucked and I have no solution.


It’s easy:
  • Don’t want illegal immigrants: Don’t hire them!
  • Don’t want problems hiring illegal immigrants: Legalize them!
  • Don’t want Mexican mafia and their weed, heroin and cocaine: Don’t buy them!


Ouch!


Businesses here are cracking down on hiring illegals, but these fake ID's and SS cards they make are good. I've even been fooled.
America would freak if they legalized the illegals already here- it would open the flood gates even more.
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Riffhard wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 12:31am:
Brainbell Jangler wrote on Jun 15th, 2010 at 3:26pm:
lotsajizz wrote on Jun 14th, 2010 at 8:30pm:
The USA will cease to meaningfully exist if the borders are not defended with TERMINAL intenisty.  It is time.  Shoot to kill.

You say "the USA will cease to meaningfully exist" as if that were a bad thing.  




Bam! Well that explains just about everything about you BJ. Can't say as I'm shocked by your contempt for your own country, but still it is very enlightening to see such a strong supporter, and Harvard buddy, of Barack's come to the conclusion that the USA is inherently a bad country. Two peas, and all that, I suppose. Seems the only history of this nation that you two ever soaked up was how god (note little g) awful we have been for mankind!


The USA will cease to exist if we allow millions of largely uneducated, menial skilled, undocumented, and illegal immigrants to cross the border at will. It will finacially bankrupt the country, and ruin our society, and our way of life forever. So by your estimation BJ, we, the USA, are the bad guys here?! Are you nuts?!

I'm all for immigration providing that it is done legally, and that everyone waits in the same line to get in. You want to see some draconian immigration laws? Then look no further than Mexico's own law! What Arizona is doing is simply mirroring the current US federal law that has been on the books for decades. In fact, the federal law is more restrictive than the Arizona law is. The only reason that so many people are up in arms about it is because the leftists open borders crowds , and groups like La Raza know full well that unlike the federal government, Arizona will enforce this law! And God bless them for it! Note capital G.


BJ let me guess, if Israel disappeared, and the USA would cease to exist as a world leader then all would be well in your little socialist nirvana, right? We could all live like those happy Cubans, or Venezuelans, right? They are only suffering because of us, right?

Boy howdy! Harvard sure does turn out some kind of geniuses, huh?!



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Some Guy wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 8:09am:
Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 8:03am:
Some Guy wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 7:15am:
It's fucked and I have no solution.


It’s easy:
  • Don’t want illegal immigrants: Don’t hire them!
  • Don’t want problems hiring illegal immigrants: Legalize them!
  • Don’t want Mexican mafia and their weed, heroin and cocaine: Don’t buy them!


Ouch!


Businesses here are cracking down on hiring illegals, but these fake ID's and SS cards they make are good. I've even been fooled.
America would freak if they legalized the illegals already here- it would open the flood gates even more.
I need my weed.


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Riffhard wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 12:31am:
Brainbell Jangler wrote on Jun 15th, 2010 at 3:26pm:
lotsajizz wrote on Jun 14th, 2010 at 8:30pm:
The USA will cease to meaningfully exist if the borders are not defended with TERMINAL intenisty.  It is time.  Shoot to kill.

You say "the USA will cease to meaningfully exist" as if that were a bad thing.  




Bam! Well that explains just about everything about you BJ. Can't say as I'm shocked by your contempt for your own country, but still it is very enlightening to see such a strong supporter, and Harvard buddy, of Barack's come to the conclusion that the USA is inherently a bad country. Two peas, and all that, I suppose. Seems the only history of this nation that you two ever soaked up was how god (note little g) awful we have been for mankind!


The USA will cease to exist if we allow millions of largely uneducated, menial skilled, undocumented, and illegal immigrants to cross the border at will. It will finacially bankrupt the country, and ruin our society, and our way of life forever. So by your estimation BJ, we, the USA, are the bad guys here?! Are you nuts?!

I'm all for immigration providing that it is done legally, and that everyone waits in the same line to get in. You want to see some draconian immigration laws? Then look no further than Mexico's own law! What Arizona is doing is simply mirroring the current US federal law that has been on the books for decades. In fact, the federal law is more restrictive than the Arizona law is. The only reason that so many people are up in arms about it is because the leftists open borders crowds , and groups like La Raza know full well that unlike the federal government, Arizona will enforce this law! And God bless them for it! Note capital G.


BJ let me guess, if Israel disappeared, and the USA would cease to exist as a world leader then all would be well in your little socialist nirvana, right? We could all live like those happy Cubans, or Venezuelans, right? They are only suffering because of us, right?

Boy howdy! Harvard sure does turn out some kind of geniuses, huh?!



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Bingo wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 8:52am:
Some Guy wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 8:09am:
Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 8:03am:
Some Guy wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 7:15am:
It's fucked and I have no solution.


It’s easy:
  • Don’t want illegal immigrants: Don’t hire them!
  • Don’t want problems hiring illegal immigrants: Legalize them!
  • Don’t want Mexican mafia and their weed, heroin and cocaine: Don’t buy them!


Ouch!


Businesses here are cracking down on hiring illegals, but these fake ID's and SS cards they make are good. I've even been fooled.
America would freak if they legalized the illegals already here- it would open the flood gates even more.
I need my weed.


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Smoke california weed. Much better anyway.
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If people are starving in Mexico, how come Mexico doesn't do something about attracting industry to their country and give out free birth control.   Why is everyone having loads of babies.  We are overpopulated  Lets talk about OVERPOPULATION.  There are too many immigrants in this country, they come here and have loads of babies and we can't even drive up or down route 95 anymore its so crowded the grocery stores have lines 20 deep, prices are going up and the jobs are not available.  The 14 year old boy was thowing stones at a police man it isn't a wise thing that he did.   If ANYONE did that here you would expect the same treatment.  Everyone is living 15 people per house, the quality of life here has gone drastically downward.
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If people are starving in Mexico, how come Mexico doens't do something about attracting industry to their country and give out free birth control.   Why is everyone having loads of babies.  We are overpopulated  Lets talk about OVERPOPULATION.  There are too many immigrants in this country, they come here and have loads of babies and we can't even drive up or down route 95 anymore its so crowded the grocery stores have lines 20 deep, prices are going up and the jobs are not available.  The 14 year old boy was thowing stones at a police man it isn't a wise thing that he did.   If ANYONE did that here you would expect the same treatment.  Everyone is living 15 people per house, the quality of life here has gone drastically downward.


yeah, but if you say that you get termed a racist...
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I prefer "pragmatist"  The children being born in this area that I can see are neglected and not well taken care of. I see ragamuffins everywhere. I feel sorry for the children being born into this situation.  I question why people would have babies when they don't even have enough $ to eat themselves.


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If people are starving in Mexico, how come Mexico doesn't do something about attracting industry to their country and give out free birth control.   Why is everyone having loads of babies.  We are overpopulated  Lets talk about OVERPOPULATION.  There are too many immigrants in this country, they come here and have loads of babies and we can't even drive up or down route 95 anymore its so crowded the grocery stores have lines 20 deep, prices are going up and the jobs are not available.  The 14 year old boy was thowing stones at a police man it isn't a wise thing that he did.   If ANYONE did that here you would expect the same treatment.  Everyone is living 15 people per house, the quality of life here has gone drastically downward.




Judging from your grammatical structure, you're not from this country. Then again, you may be an example of the poor educational system we have?
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Some Guy wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 8:20am:
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Brainbell Jangler wrote on Jun 15th, 2010 at 3:26pm:
lotsajizz wrote on Jun 14th, 2010 at 8:30pm:
The USA will cease to meaningfully exist if the borders are not defended with TERMINAL intenisty.  It is time.  Shoot to kill.

You say "the USA will cease to meaningfully exist" as if that were a bad thing.  




Bam! Well that explains just about everything about you BJ. Can't say as I'm shocked by your contempt for your own country, but still it is very enlightening to see such a strong supporter, and Harvard buddy, of Barack's come to the conclusion that the USA is inherently a bad country. Two peas, and all that, I suppose. Seems the only history of this nation that you two ever soaked up was how god (note little g) awful we have been for mankind!


The USA will cease to exist if we allow millions of largely uneducated, menial skilled, undocumented, and illegal immigrants to cross the border at will. It will finacially bankrupt the country, and ruin our society, and our way of life forever. So by your estimation BJ, we, the USA, are the bad guys here?! Are you nuts?!

I'm all for immigration providing that it is done legally, and that everyone waits in the same line to get in. You want to see some draconian immigration laws? Then look no further than Mexico's own law! What Arizona is doing is simply mirroring the current US federal law that has been on the books for decades. In fact, the federal law is more restrictive than the Arizona law is. The only reason that so many people are up in arms about it is because the leftists open borders crowds , and groups like La Raza know full well that unlike the federal government, Arizona will enforce this law! And God bless them for it! Note capital G.


BJ let me guess, if Israel disappeared, and the USA would cease to exist as a world leader then all would be well in your little socialist nirvana, right? We could all live like those happy Cubans, or Venezuelans, right? They are only suffering because of us, right?

Boy howdy! Harvard sure does turn out some kind of geniuses, huh?!



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Riffy's response is awesome, too bad he went all long winded on a very subjective and obviously sarcastic post... if we could bottle Riffy's passion and turn it into fuel... no more need for Arabian crude or miggrant workers... just his typing power alone could feed 100 americans and suplly enough hot air to heat 50 homes!!!
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And yet you see nothing wrong at all about BJ implying that the world would be better off if the USA ceased to exist? As I also posted to The True Believer, he and Obummer are two peas in a pod. I will revise that now to BJ, Barry, and you are three peas in a pod.


Oh, and on a related subject (Obama's suckage)-Did you see the report released Monday that confirms that upwards of 51% of all private sector employees will NOT be able to keep their private health coverage once Obummercare kicks in?! Yep, that was just another Obummer lie. It's true, Dog, and guess who told you that would happen months ago? Your pal Riffy told you! You're welcome.


But hey, fear not! This won't affect union employees or government employees! Yay socialism!!!


See you on-line for our government meds!


He sucks! He is the worst president ever, and it's NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!



Riffy
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Deja vu?  I think I've had this conversation before . . .

Yes, birth control and education can help ease over-population problems world-wide.
(Personally, I do not have children.)

But . . . could there be other factors?

I once read an article, (Unfortunately, I don't remember the name of the author or the title.) but in this article, the author stated that referring to a country as "developing" or "Third-World" was very rude and disrespectful.

Furthermore, he went on to ponder the question: Is "under-development" a stage towards "development" or the result of the "neo-colonialized" relationship that so-called Third World nations have with industrialized nations?

He went on to explain how people in countries like the United States, Germany and Japan use up 75% of the world's natural resources. While people living in these so-called "Third World nations" don't utilize not even a fraction of that.

The people of Africa and Latin America never begged for food until the "discovery" of gold, silver, diamonds, fruits and vegetables, petroleum, natrual gas, minerals, and timber. How is it that they are so rich in natural resources, yet still they are hungry?

Why is it that the world's richest man in the world lives in Mexico? The 4th and 5th richest men live in India? The 8th richest man lives in Brazil? How can that be?

http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/economics/richest-man-in-world-2010/

P.S.  This is what happens when poor people try to "empower" and "lift" themselves out of poverty
(Scroll down to Nicaragua and the Sandinistas):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Ronald_Reagan_administration
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Re: 14 year old boy shot and killed by Border Patr
Reply #49 - Jun 16th, 2010 at 1:40pm
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P.S.  Involuntary sterilization. It's called "Eugenics" and it's not a new idea. The founder of Planned Parenthood supported this theory. Check this video out:
(Scroll to 3:29.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6b4564ZeLQ&feature=related ;
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