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2010 FIFA World Cup (NSC most likely)
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Next week at this time we will be enthralled with this event!  

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i'm excited too.... not sure what the TV schedule will be, last time we had ESPN and ESPN2 carrying HD, now I've got FSC in HD too, hope they carry some games... time to use the google...

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USA vs England next saturday. That's a great way to get started. Also rooting for Germany. But predicting Brazil to win.
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USA vs England next saturday. That's a great way to get started. Also rooting for Germany. But predicting Brazil to win.



Brazil is always a big fave... didn't France or spain win the last one... damn 5 years goes by fast and then slow, and my mind is all sorts of broken...
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 5th, 2010 at 4:02pm:
USA vs England next saturday. That's a great way to get started. Also rooting for Germany. But predicting Brazil to win.



Brazil is always a big fave... didn't France or spain win the last one... damn 5 years goes by fast and then slow, and my mind is all sorts of broken...

Italy won the last one in 2006.
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 5th, 2010 at 4:02pm:
USA vs England next saturday. That's a great way to get started. Also rooting for Germany. But predicting Brazil to win.



Brazil is always a big fave... didn't France or spain win the last one... damn 5 years goes by fast and then slow, and my mind is all sorts of broken...



Italy won the last World Cup - beating France on penalties in Berlin, with Zinedine Zidane being sent off near the end for a headbutt.

Its every four years.

Spain won the  last European Championship - but that was 2008.

They would be favourites to win the World Cup as well.

And I think they will.

I dont expect Germany, France or Italy to do as well as they usually do. England have a great coach and some excellent individual players, but not enough strength in depth in their squad to deal with players getting injured or suspended. Holland are probably the best side in Europe after Spain and are a good bet unless their players fall out with each other as they usually do. Argentina have probably the strongest side on paper and in Messi have the greatest player on the planet, but they struggled to qualify and Maradona is a loose cannon as a coach. Its not the strongest ever Brazil side but there arent a lot of outstanding sides in international football at the minute and (unusually for them) they have a good defence, so they shouldnt be too far away.  They're in a tough group though to begin with, with Portugal and Ivory Coast.

Cant wait. And I'll probably be watching the opening game on a big screen in Prague's Wenceslas Square with a nice cold Budvar.
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Italy won the last one in 2006.


Yes, and Mexico won 2-1 aganist them last Thursday in Brussels. Mexico is going to open the world cup this Friday

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Spain won the  last European Championship - but that was 2008.

They would be favourites to win the World Cup as well.

And I think they will.


You made Voodoo smile. Spain is my favourite too, having two nationalities is cool as I have always two teams, none of them Champion yet


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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 5th, 2010 at 4:02pm:
USA vs England next saturday. That's a great way to get started. Also rooting for Germany. But predicting Brazil to win.



Brazil is always a big fave... didn't France or spain win the last one... damn 5 years goes by fast and then slow, and my mind is all sorts of broken...



Italy won the last World Cup - beating France on penalties in Berlin, with Zinedine Zidane being sent off near the end for a headbutt.

Its every four years.

Spain won the  last European Championship - but that was 2008.

They would be favourites to win the World Cup as well.

And I think they will.

I dont expect Germany, France or Italy to do as well as they usually do. England have a great coach and some excellent individual players, but not enough strength in depth in their squad to deal with players getting injured or suspended. Holland are probably the best side in Europe after Spain and are a good bet unless their players fall out with each other as they usually do. Argentina have probably the strongest side on paper and in Messi have the greatest player on the planet, but they struggled to qualify and Maradona is a loose cannon as a coach. Its not the strongest ever Brazil side but there arent a lot of outstanding sides in international football at the minute and (unusually for them) they have a good defence, so they shouldnt be too far away.  They're in a tough group though to begin with, with Portugal and Ivory Coast.

Cant wait. And I'll probably be watching the opening game on a big screen in Prague's Wenceslas Square with a nice cold Budvar.



I forgot all about the head butt, that was sick... i'm not good at telling time either... i have a feeling we are going to see some exceptional football...
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Reply #10 - Jun 5th, 2010 at 6:43pm
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Okay..I filled in the form and by accident created a final between the Netherlands and Germany. In which my squad will finally win that cup. The road will be long and hard, with a match against Italy in the first round of the knock-out stage (0-0 and penalties...) Brazil in the QF (4-3 win..yes I'm nuts) a semi-final against England (3-2 win) and a clean 2-0 victory over the Germans in the final. Unlikely, I know..but expect me to be drunk for a month if they pull it off..

Surprise of the tournament will be Cameroon: I pushed them to the semi's because they'll kick out Spain in the QF...

There was some bad news today though: Robben left the field with a leg injury today, he'll be in the hospital for the rest of the weekend to see if it's minor or major..he's a big key in the succes of the Dutch, I guess Van Nistelrooy will be added to the squad if Robben's unable to play...but still.


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Well I hope your team can hang this year, Teiz.  Egon appears more then ready....He has purchased this for his humble abode....

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Yes, not long to go now!

I'm usually out on a Saturday evening, but have persuaded my friend to change it to the Friday. I simply cannot miss our boys whipping the yanks 10-0! I'm not one for watching football in the pub, so I'll be observing from the sofa.

Predictions? England will reach the quarter finals before blowing it. It'll be a Brazil vs. Spain final with the former coming out on tops.

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Forget about France guys..Uruguay and Mexico are ready to spank us....we got fantastic players, but they don t succeed in playing together...plus our coach is a dumb.
Well, if we win the WC, I promise to buy a Beatles tee shirt and "Rarities".... Blank Frigging Stare
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Honky Tonk Man wrote on Jun 6th, 2010 at 3:18am:
Yes, not long to go now!

I'm usually out on a Saturday evening, but have persuaded my friend to change it to the Friday. I simply cannot miss our boys whipping the yanks 10-0! I'm not one for watching football in the pub, so I'll be observing from the sofa.

Predictions? England will reach the quarter finals before blowing it. It'll be a Brazil vs. Spain final with the former coming out on tops.

Voodoo: can we make this thread a 'sticky', please

10-0....Don't be surprised when the Yanks win next saturday. They have looked real good in their last 2 preps. Plus hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way. Oh no! not you again
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USA vs England next saturday. That's a great way to get started. Also rooting for Germany. But predicting Brazil to win.



Brazil is always a big fave... didn't France or spain win the last one... damn 5 years goes by fast and then slow, and my mind is all sorts of broken...



Italy won the last World Cup - beating France on penalties in Berlin, with Zinedine Zidane being sent off near the end for a headbutt.

Its every four years.

Spain won the  last European Championship - but that was 2008.

They would be favourites to win the World Cup as well.

And I think they will.

I dont expect Germany, France or Italy to do as well as they usually do. England have a great coach and some excellent individual players, but not enough strength in depth in their squad to deal with players getting injured or suspended. Holland are probably the best side in Europe after Spain and are a good bet unless their players fall out with each other as they usually do. Argentina have probably the strongest side on paper and in Messi have the greatest player on the planet, but they struggled to qualify and Maradona is a loose cannon as a coach. Its not the strongest ever Brazil side but there arent a lot of outstanding sides in international football at the minute and (unusually for them) they have a good defence, so they shouldnt be too far away.  They're in a tough group though to begin with, with Portugal and Ivory Coast.

Cant wait. And I'll probably be watching the opening game on a big screen in Prague's Wenceslas Square with a nice cold Budvar.



I forgot all about the head butt, that was sick... i'm not good at telling time either... i have a feeling we are going to see some exceptional football...



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@Sweetcharmedlife: it's not gonna happen. Under normal conditions England is in another league than the USA. Their goal's probably to minimize the damage against England and try to get through to the next stage with the second place.

@Gazza: I agree...not Zidane's smartest move, but that asshole had it coming..
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10-0....Don't be surprised when the Yanks win next saturday. They have looked real good in their last 2 preps. Plus hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way. Oh no! not you again


Well, perhaps '10-0' is a just a tad optomistic, then. We'll stuff ya 2-1 - how's that for being more of a realist?  Wink
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10-0....Don't be surprised when the Yanks win next saturday. They have looked real good in their last 2 preps. Plus hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way. Oh no! not you again


Well, perhaps '10-0' is a just a tad optomistic, then. We'll stuff ya 2-1 - how's that for being more of a realist?  Wink


Like I said earlier. USA and England are my teams.  Given our past HTM, it would be right to assume that you would murder us.  But I have watched our team make real progress in the qualifying matches and compared to the last World Cup, I'd say we are pretty decent and able to hang with the "big boys"...I  am hoping it will be an historical match.  US the real football could use a big boost of confidence... Wink Wink

Either way..can't wait to watch it! Cool
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This ain't necessarily NSC - I remember MJ attended an English match in '06 (vs. Trini and Tobago or Sweden, can't remember.. or was is Portugal?).  Let's just say the US won't have an excuse for being in the group of death this time - my prediction:
US - 5 points
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Yeah well nice and all Bingo, but check out this Dutch supporter! A statue of grace, hotness etc. etc. god I hate the dress code during the Dutch games. Love football though...
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I'd be shocked if the US won against England.  We aren't in the same league.  It's a bit like putting the best college football team in the country against a really good NFL team.  They more than likely won't get blown off the field, but a win isn't probable.

If I had to put money on who is going to take the cup....my money would be on Mexico.
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Yeah well nice and all Bingo, but check out this Dutch supporter! A statue of grace, hotness etc. etc. god I hate the dress code during the Dutch games. Love football though...

No offense Teiz. But I like Bingo's pic a little better. Who stole this one? (Seriously)
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Like I said earlier. USA and England are my teams.  Given our past HTM, it would be right to assume that you would murder us.  But I have watched our team make real progress in the qualifying matches and compared to the last World Cup, I'd say we are pretty decent and able to hang with the "big boys"...I  am hoping it will be an historical match.  US the real football could use a big boost of confidence... Wink Wink

Either way..can't wait to watch it! Cool



The bottom line is this: we - I.E. England - are nowhere near as good as the U.K. tabloids making us out to be. Take away the handful of genuine talent and we are left with a fairly average, though be it, decent pool of players. Personally, I tire of the likes of Hurst and Charlton blabbering on about how this could be 'our year' etc. It won't be. We are behind Brazil, Spain, and Germany et al and always will be. The reason? Too many foreigners in our top-flight.

Personally Meg, I think we'll beat you, but not comfortably. The U.S. have decent array of players, many of whom perform in our Premier League.

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Just did the family sweepstakes and I got all the shitty teams that are there to make up numbers such as Algeria and Slovakia! The only team I have with half a hope in hell of doing anything is France and they are shakey to say the least. They seem to be a group of individuals rather than a good team. Plus, Dominech is a moron who uses astrology to pick his team! I'm fucked in other words....

I must be the only person in Ireland to be supporting the French!
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Australia are in group D and much like the USA/Eng game our first match against Germany looks fairly one sided on paper - however, if we can limit the damage against Ger. there is, apparently, some hope we can progress to the next  round.

The pundits down here seem to think we have some kind of chance against the other  two teams in the group - Serbia and Ghana  - so goal differences could be crucial.

so our fortunes may well be decided with the first game - put up a good showing against Germany - with a win unlikely - a draw would almost be like a win - as long as we don't get flogged - because if we do we are going to be behind the 8 - ball ( excuse my mixed sporting metaphor) for the rest of the Group matches
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Australia is a tough team to beat. The Aussies are by no means gonna win the cup, but no one likes to play against that squad. Mexico is, like the Netherlands, a dark horse at best. I think my side has the better team btw, but it's been a very long season for a lot of key players: Sneijder, Robben (currently injured but likely to return to the team a week from now) and Van Bommel were playing for the league, the national cup and the Champions League. But: if the coach can keep the group together (always a difficult task with the Dutch), there could be a party in the Netherlands a month from now.
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I must be the only person in Ireland to be supporting the French!
( Northern Ireland actually but you know... I've got no affiliation to the Republic of Ireland but the
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It will be interesting to watch and see if he ever cracks a smile...

http://www.ussoccer.com/~/media/6F078B66C5A44270A4FED4944D1C9927.ashxw=401&h=301


And Rooney already being warned to keep his potty mouth shut and the games haven't even started...
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I absolutely love the footage from that moment. The ref should’ve awarded the goal through the sheer cheekiness of it all.

Best is surely the greatest footballer never to represent his country in a World Cup Finals. It’s almost tragic, in a way. And if you allow me to continue with the Manchester United connections, I would like to nominate Duncan Edwards and Ryan Giggs, too.


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Agree on all counts.

Thats actually a good pub argument. Best would be the obvious one, but the others are great choices too.

George Weah (Liberia), Jim Baxter (Scotland) and Liam Brady (Eire) would probably be up there as well
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Agree on all counts.

Thats actually a good pub argument. Best would be the obvious one, but the others are great choices too.

George Weah (Liberia), Jim Baxter (Scotland) and Liam Brady (Eire) would probably be up there as well


I had forgotten about George Weah - I had to google him!  Oh no! not you again

Seriously, though, another candidate, IMO, is Matt Le Tissier: a phenomenal talent who was never really given the number of chances he deserved. He could've really bolstered England's prospects for USA '94 qualifying or France '98 if Taylor and Hoddle had given him a go respectively.
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Agree on all counts.

Thats actually a good pub argument. Best would be the obvious one, but the others are great choices too.

George Weah (Liberia), Jim Baxter (Scotland) and Liam Brady (Eire) would probably be up there as well


I had forgotten about George Weah - I had to google him!  Oh no! not you again

Seriously, though, another candidate, IMO, is Matt Le Tissier: a phenomenal talent who was never really given the number of chances he deserved. He could've really bolstered England's prospects for USA '94 qualifying or France '98 if Taylor and Hoddle had given him a go respectively.



Actually, now I think about it, alongside Best, the greatest player to have never played in the World Cup finals was Alfredo di Stefano.

And unlike Best he played for a country which was good enough to qualify. Two of them in fact. Argentina didnt enter in 1950 and 1954, he acquired Spanish citizenship in 1956 but Spain didnt qualify in 1958 and then he missed the 1962 finals through injury.  (he even played a few times for Colombia but they werent in FIFA at the time). A bit before my time but he was one of the top half dozen players ever IMO.  49 goals in 58 European Cup games and five winners medals - quite somethin'.
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If you are in NY, you can check out where the immigrants from the World Cup countries live and click to find a pub that is showing the matches.

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If you are in NY, you can check out where the immigrants from the World Cup countries live and click to find a pub that is showing the matches.

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Ha Ha..

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Perhaps they could use this as thier theme song.
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She's got your name
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It's too bad, she's got you by the balls
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She's got your name
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You're screamin' like thunder
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It's too bad, she's got you by the balls
She's nailed you to the wall
Oh, it's a shame
Ah but it's funny
She crashed your car
She spend your money
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It's too bad, she's grabbed a handful
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It's too bad, oo, and it's painful
And you can't break away from this stall
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It's too bad
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You're screamin' blue murder
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It's too bad, she's got you by the balls
It's too bad, she's got you by the balls
It's too bad, she's got you by the balls
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Interesting story on the am news about the new the real football ball Adidas has introduced for the World Cup.
I don't BLAME the goalies from being upset; that thing is all over the place.

[url]http://www.standard.net/topics/sports/2010/06/10/new-the real football-ball-has-world-cup-spin[/url]

NHL season is over.
I may just have to get interested in The World Cup.

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One hour to go!!! I'm affraid I'm gonna miss most matches this weekend due to stuff to do elsewhere..but I'll be in front of a screen monday when the Dutch take on Denmark.

Today: South Africa - Mexico 1-3 & Uruguay-France 1-2. Uruguay goal will be by Ajax striker Luis Suarez..
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Oh no! not you again Seriously: I was the only one who didn't have a haloween costume on during the semi's in Euro 2000 (lost against Italy after penalty kicks).

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Yes you can. Shocked Shocked
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Glad you did LOL, and btw youlost your first and second bet


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So you prefer a draw over a Mexico win?  Anyway: great start of the tournament..not. Two draws. Uruguay-France was an awful match...

Anyway: today Argentina will give Nigeria a spanking: 4-0, Korea vs Greece will be a bore: 1-1. England will beat the USA 3-1.
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So you prefer a draw over a Mexico win?


Of course no, I'm pissed off to the extreme, I just said the "Glad you did" because your bet was RSA 3 Mexico 1 and you lost

Today the winners will be England, Argentina and Korea


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Well, the guy in the middle has an elephant toe instead

I do remember how enthusiastic the dutch are, I was in Dallas in 1994 in the Brazil-Netherlands match (considered the best match of the cup). The day before of the match we were drinking with the dutch fans at the hotel, then early in the morning drinking before breakfast, then they were drinking before, during and after the match and at night they were celebrating more than the Brazilian but Brazil was the winner LOL!! So the celebrate if the win or lose!!! (and that fine with me LOL)
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All I ask is that you make us Proud!


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First half 1-1

Can't believe the way the US scored LOL, I'm sure that is already on YouTube and will have millions of visits

Ouch! Oh no! not you again Puke all over me (wait that is BLEED) That was clever piss off
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Probably a Bon Jovi show would be funnier Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?

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First half 1-1

Can't believe the way the US scored LOL, I'm sure that is already on YouTube and will have millions of visits

Ouch! Oh no! not you again Puke all over me (wait that is BLEED) That was clever piss off

Indeed it is Voodoo.

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We beat the bloody brits 200 years ago...We can do it again. USA,USA,USA. You rock! Let's go get drunk Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?


Smiley Jesus wept. Grow up.

Are you going to be calling the Algerians 'towel-heads' next week?

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I'm proud of USA.  We have come a long, long way.....



Wasnt a major surprise. The US have a good enough side. They deserved a draw, without question and will probably qualify from that group.
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We beat the bloody brits 200 years ago...We can do it again. USA,USA,USA. You rock! Let's go get drunk Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?


Smiley Jesus wept. Grow up.

Are you going to be calling the Algerians 'towel-heads' next week?

Oh, and by the way "England" and "Britain" are two different things.

No I won't. Just having a little fun Gazza......Thanks for the geography lesson What a post Ronnie!!!!!
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was that Honky Tonk Man tending the goal??


What are you saying???  Wink

Personally, I think we had the edge – just about. Gerard’s goal was well-taken and I think our number of chances outweighed those that the USA had. On reflection, we’ll take the draw. It’ll be us and the USA to qualify from this group, with us making the quarters – and loosing the plot – and the USA going out in the last-16 stage.

As for Robert Green? He’s an England goalie – what do you expect? We excel at such blunders.
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A snoozefest so far. The two games today have been absolutely turgid. At this rate, it could threaten Italia '90 as dullest tournament ever.

Brazil, Spain and The Netherlands havent played yet, however. So, hopefully that'll kick start it into life as (with the possible exception of Argentina) they're potentially the most entertaining sides in the tournament.
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A snoozefest so far. The two games today have been absolutely turgid.


yes, gazza...this is exactly how one would describe the real football.

when is the baseball world cup?
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A snoozefest so far. The two games today have been absolutely turgid. At this rate, it could threaten Italia '90 as dullest tournament ever.

Brazil, Spain and The Netherlands havent played yet, however. So, hopefully that'll kick start it into life as (with the possible exception of Argentina) they're potentially the most entertaining sides in the tournament.



just watched serb/ghana game... ghana looked fast and very tight passing... i don't get to watch them live, i record them and play catch up... i get to avoid halftime... it will definitely ramp up... i have a feeling the aus. germany game is going to be wothwhile...
for those don't like this sport, don't post here complaining how you don't like the sport, it's the most popular game in the world and this is the biggest single sport event in the world, if you can't appreciate the athleticims and skill involved, so what if the game bores you, then go do something that doesn't bore you... you know the old saying, if you don't got nothing to say, then shut up?
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More pressure on England and the US now - because whoever finishes second in their group will almost certainly be facing the Germans in the second round.
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Germany is a very good team, just won 4-0 against Australia

Let's see why I put that "citizenshit" in my video

Of the 4 goals of Germany let's see who scored:
  • Lukas Podolski - Born in the Polish city of Gliwicze
  • Miroslav Klose - Born in the Polish town of Opole
  • Cacau - Born in the Brazilian city of Santo Andre

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Cool,I have Germany to win in a pool at a local bar. Even more reason to root for them....Not to mention a bit of heritage as well. Cool
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Germany is a very good team, just won 4-0 against Australia

Let's see why I put that "citizenshit" in my video

Of the 4 goals of Germany let's see who scored:
  • Lukas Podolski - Born in the Polish city of Gliwicze
  • Miroslav Klose - Born in the Polish town of Opole
  • Cacau - Born in the Brazilian city of Santo Andre



Ah, well this is citizenship for you. I cannot speak for other European nations, but here in the UK, you are no longer a British Citizen by birth: I.E., being born on British soil. Status is either passed on through the parents - in the first instance - or gained through Naturalisation or Registration through the Home Office. The other option - the most ghastly, IMO - is that of 'treaty rights' - I won't bore you with that one! After a few bottles of Stella Artois, I shall be ranting all evening!
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Seems like the vuvuzuela's may be silenced soon:
The soundtrack to the World Cup has been a steady buzz, but the noise could soon be coming to an end.

South Africa's World Cup organizing chief Danny Jordaan said Sunday there is a chance vuvuzelas may be banned from inside stadiums after numerous complaints, BBC News has reported.

Asked whether he'd consider getting rid of the trumpets, he said: "If there are grounds to do so, yes. We did say that if any land on the pitch in anger we will take action."


France captain Patrice Evra has already blamed the noise generated by the vuvuzelas for his team's poor showing in its opening 0-0 draw with Uruguay.

"We can't sleep at night because of the vuvuzelas," Evra said. "People start playing them from 6 a.m. We can't hear one another out on the pitch because of them."

Jordaan said organizers are doing everything possible.

"We've tried to get some order," Jordaan said. "We have asked for no vuvuzelas during national anthems or stadium announcements. It's difficult, but we're trying to manage the best we can."
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Anyway: I got my first bet right today: Ghana won against the Serbs!

Oh and Voodoo: my bet was a 3-1 win by Mexico, not by RSA. I have Mexico out in the second round (3-2 loss against Argentina). Anyway...it's not like I have invested a lot of cash in this prediction (10 euro's for the entire tournament).
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Germany were superb. The tournament has finally came to life.

More pressure on England and the US now - because whoever finishes second in their group will almost certainly be facing the Germans in the second round.


Germany looked great... they are number two team to support, and USA doesn't usually go far...
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They have better balls than the official "Jabulani" the real football ball

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Well..a 2-0 win is a 2-0 win...overall feeling of the match: meh. First half was very poor, second half was better but not great. Probably a boring match for people who have little with the teams that were in the field. Thanks for the own goal Denmark: we needed that!
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Well..a 2-0 win is a 2-0 win...overall feeling of the match: meh. First half was very poor, second half was better but not great. Probably a boring match for people who have little with the teams that were in the field. Thanks for the own goal Denmark: we needed that!


Well Teiz, they only can get better, and Japan this saturday shouldn't be a problem (I hope)
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Paraguay was great! 1-1 against the champions it's not an easy task. My favourite team here is "Toluca" and for years they had a Paraguayan forward "Cardoso" probably one of the best I have ever seen, fantastic player. ALso we have very good, cool and rocking bastards from Paraguay at our message board in Spanish

Netherlands and Germany have been the best so far
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The fact that you state that Holland was among the best says little about the orange boys and lots about the rest of the teams we've seen til now. Second half was okay-ish, but I've seen better Dutch matches. I agree with Tumbling Dijs though: it can only get better. At the Euro-championships two years ago Holland was the group stage sensation: they wiped Italy and France off of the pitch, only to be kicked out by Russia a week later. Russia was aided by a great Dutch (coach who knew everyone in that team) and the Orange boys themselves, who were really overestimating themselves at that point in the tournament. That's the risk of peaking early..
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Okay, who put 50 euro's on Switzerland for fun today? I'm curious how much the bookmakers were giving for a Swiss win.
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Not my day, we lost against Switzerland and Uruguay is going to win, I was waiting for a draw here to give Mexico more possibilities.
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Spain will be back. This happens sometimes, the squad is 4 times better than the Swiss. So now they have to win the other two games. And they will. Mexico needs a win against France tomorrow. France has had better squads, and Mexico looks pretty solid. So there's always a chance. A draw tomorrow and a win against Uruguay is enough..
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Uruguay 3 South Africa 0 !!¡¡ I Mexico MUST win tomorrow and then I hope a draw between RSA and France an so Uruguay and Mexico pass to the second round
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Gazza wrote on Jun 13th, 2010 at 10:35am:
A snoozefest so far. The two games today have been absolutely turgid.


yes, gazza...this is exactly how one would describe the real football.

when is the baseball world cup?


95 minutes of guys running around with the slight, vague hope of scoring one goal.
No fourth down and inches and 20 seconds left in the game. No 9th inning, bases loaded and your team is down two runs.
Where is the momentum? And people in the stands are just biting their nails....i don't get it. Is that a purely American stance?
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Gazza wrote on Jun 13th, 2010 at 10:35am:
A snoozefest so far. The two games today have been absolutely turgid.


yes, gazza...this is exactly how one would describe the real football.

when is the baseball world cup?


95 minutes of guys running around with the slight, vague hope of scoring one goal.
No fourth down and inches and 20 seconds left in the game. No 9th inning, bases loaded and your team is down two runs.
Where is the momentum? And people in the stands are just biting their nails....i don't get it. Is that a purely American stance?


unfortunately...yes it is

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Cheers Voodoo! Solid win over France. Great match by Mexico

2 bad calls helped out a lot. Ouch!
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2 bad calls helped out a lot. Ouch!

I hate to say it, but the Mexicans deserved to win. Besides, if it weren't for a bad call, we wouldn't have made it to South Africa in the first place!
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2 bad calls? I didn't see them. You can argue about the first goal being offside or not. Generally the Fifa rule is that the linesman should judge in favor of the striker in case of doubt. This was a case of doubt. The penalty kick was pretty obvious.

Or perhaps you were refering to the poor sub choices the French coach made? Anyway: France is on it's way out..Uruguay and Mexico can make a deal for round 2. A draw will do. The question is: will Mexico accept it? Ending in second place will mean they face Argentina in the second round, whereas Uruguay as group winner (more goals) will face either South Korea of Greece. Big difference.
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I hate to say it, but the Mexicans deserved to win. Besides, if it weren't for a bad call, we wouldn't have made it to South Africa in the first place!


Well Caro, same as me we have two teams, so be sure the Germans will be in the final or at least in the semifinals, and if you do the math, France is not out yet but to be honest I don't think they have a chance




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Mexico 2 - 0 France,

Mexico won against the Champion Italy, 2-1 in Brussels some days ago, and today 2-0 the the Subchampion, France 2-0

Who's next? Uruguay... wait that's gonna be a hard task but Mexico must be the first of their group, we don't want to play against Argentina, we want to be in the final against them

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Mexico 2 - 0 France,

Mexico won against the Champion Italy, 2-1 in Brussels some days ago, and today 2-0 the the Subchampion, France 2-0

Who's next? Uruguay... wait that's gonna be a hard task but Mexico must be the first of their group, we don't want to play against Argentina, we want to be in the final against them

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just watched the game, had to record and avoid spoilers... they look great... congrads, enjoy the hangover, i mean drinks...
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The Germans are mere mortals then..... Blank Frigging Stare

they miss a penalty and get beat by the Serbians,  1-0  Blank Frigging Stare
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Howe is that late goal not a goal?   Whatever, we'll take a draw.  Worst case scenario: England wins (at 4 points, with SLV), then ties SLV in the next match.  Best case?  England losing/drawing, then beating Slovenia next match!
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Great comeback by the Yanks. Looked to be a terrific game. And whats more, they were robbed.

A win v Algeria will be enough to put them through.

In fact, from what I can see if the last 3 games in the group are drawn, the USA could conceivably KO England even by just drawing with Algeria - if theyve scored more goals than England over the 3 games.


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Bradley scores and now is 2-2 from a 0-2 go boyz do the turn and win! Great match  Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?


Well I posted that comment just when Bradley scored, too bad the US couldn't make the third but you already explained, they were robbed

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Am I US citizen? LOL I injoyed the match as one and got pissed when they got robbed


Thanks for that, Voodoo!

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Great comeback by the Yanks. Looked to be a terrific game. And whats more, they were robbed.

A win v Algeria will be enough to put them through.

In fact, from what I can see if the last 3 games in the group are drawn, the USA could conceivably KO England even by just drawing with Algeria - if theyve scored more goals than England over the 3 games.




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Kind of glad I couldn't watch the game today (due to work).

I know that I missed a good game, but I would've been a mess during the game. Being down 2-0 is never fun. I just wish Bradley could get the players to be aggressive from 0", not when they are down 2-0.
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Gazza, please do not be cruel to Meg by suggesting false hope, in the sense that the yanks may actually qualify! Whose side are you on, here?????  Wink



They've probably a better chance than England have now, it appears!

That was utter wank. Alex, I dont think England have put in a good 90-minute performance in the World Cup finals since 2002.

After two games

Slovenia - 4 pts  Goals For/Against -  3-2
USA - 2 pts         Goals For/Against -  3-3
England - 2 pts   Goals For/Against -  1-1
Algeria - 1 pt    Goals For/Against -  0-1

Each of the four teams can still qualify and each team can still be knocked out. Any team that wins their final game will go through.

If both the final games are drawn, Slovenia and the USA will qualify - unless the draw in England's game is more than two goals greater than the draw in the USA game (eg, 3-3 and 0-0) because if the teams finish with the same points, it then is decided on goal difference and if that cant separate them, its on goals scored (currently the US lead England by 3-1). If they're still level after that, its decided by drawing lots (which has never been necessary before)

If the US beat Algeria, they will top the group unless England beat Slovenia by a greater margin.
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Must say the last game was painful to watch.  

At least England continues to hold one World Cup record though!

This group will be very exciting to watch next week.  Thank God for Gazza who will give us all the possibilities.  I've gotten a headache trying to figure it out.  Bottom line to my way of thinking( yeah what do I know Wink) is USA has to win big and that won"t be easy gainst Algeria.......


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Thanks for the outstanding break down Gazza. England will probably still go through by beating Slovenia. Carragher missing the next match probably helps them with Dawson coming in and Capello now has the big decision of dropping one of Lampard and Gerrard. Lampard will probably be the one because they can't continue with this midfield. That will help and with those changes they'll probably beat Slovenia.
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Yes, damn that Christine Bleakley for exhausting our Frank. He looked positively knackered and we have to have a scapegoat, of course. There are always excuses with England.

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Anyway, I give up. When, oh when, am I going to sit in front of the box and actually watch an England team that takes my breath away? A team that can actually string two passes together; a team that leaves you in absolute awe? The thrashing against Holland in Euro ’96 is one of my few purely joyous recollections. Then again, the first England international I watched on television was that infamous USA ’94 qualifier – so it’s not all good against those from the land of windmills and clogs.

We can’t pass, we can’t score and we seemingly cannot defend particularly well. Our Captain got crocked and had to go home; Ledley King is Mr. Injury and that souse wally managed to earn himself a suspension for the Slovenia match.

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Alex - isnt that pic photoshopped? I dont recall her doing those kind of photosessions!


Yeah, probably!

It was the most interesting photo – unless you prefer to view her sat on couch next to Adrian Charles.
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Not enough goals on this tournament.
So far my favorites are
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Argentina

France and England were horrible,so was Holland even they did won.I was on Denmarks side,because they are the only scandinavian group on the tournament.I expected more
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for the most part, i feel the intensity picking up and games getting better. low scoring and alot of ties... but alot of teams making oppurtunties, defensive has been great... you only need one goal to win, and block everyone... seems to be this years mantra so far...
what happened in england, is the old goaltender exiled?
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what happened in england, is the old goaltender exiled?


After such a catastrophic mistake, Cappello obviously felt that a more experienced set of hand were needed between the sticks. David James is 39 years-old and has been a professional for nigh on 20 years. He gained the nickname, ‘Calamity James’ for a series of blunders he has made in the past, but he’s been a lot better of late and had a fabulous season at Portsmouth under difficult circumstances – huge financial problems and relegation.

After this competitions over – and James waves goodbye, which he’ll surely do – then perhaps Robert Green will get another chance. Personally, our 3rd choice, Joe Hart, is the best bet for the future.
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No..bad match indeed, but they have the tree points.

I heard a theory on Dutch tv last week: the Germans started off in a way the Dutch usually do, and the Dutch played like the Germans normally do. So that would mean Germany gets the applause for beautiful football and the Netherlands can finally rise the cup.

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Cup seems to be won by luck in equal proportion to skill due to poor quality officials every time it is played.  Fans seem to prefer this element of the game over the potential delays associated with reviews and getting the call right.  Sad, sad, sad!

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Over here in Europe most people are past that. Some tech support should be added: in this day and age there are still goals that didn't pass the line and players being sent off for a foul they didn't commit. Ridiculous, but Fifa blocks every suggestion for a more fair game. Their president Blatter even went on record before this tournament saying that fans prefer the debate over a fair match. Bulshit from a fossil IMO.
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Cup seems to be won by luck in equal proportion to skill due to poor quality officials every time it is played.  Fans seem to prefer this element of the game over the potential delays associated with reviews and getting the call right.  Sad, sad, sad!

Which country will get screwed next?


did you see the USA game... it's ok to mug players in the penalty zone and they get the foul...

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Pdog wrote on Jun 19th, 2010 at 6:12am:
what happened in england, is the old goaltender exiled?


After such a catastrophic mistake, Cappello obviously felt that a more experienced set of hand were needed between the sticks. David James is 39 years-old and has been a professional for nigh on 20 years. He gained the nickname, ‘Calamity James’ for a series of blunders he has made in the past, but he’s been a lot better of late and had a fabulous season at Portsmouth under difficult circumstances – huge financial problems and relegation.

After this competitions over – and James waves goodbye, which he’ll surely do – then perhaps Robert Green will get another chance. Personally, our 3rd choice, Joe Hart, is the best bet for the future.


we get a fair amount of PL games over here on FSC... seen him play goal a few times...  was Portsmouth knocked down that low in rankings, or does he have personla issues... wish I could follow more... just don't have the time... I'm hoping one of these years I will follow UEFA and PL up to the minute... Italian and Argentine leagues get alot of air timw here too...
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Cup seems to be won by luck in equal proportion to skill due to poor quality officials every time it is played.  Fans seem to prefer this element of the game over the potential delays associated with reviews and getting the call right.  Sad, sad, sad!

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They dont, actually. Its the people who run the game who think otherwise.
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that ref jobbed us (the yellow card on finley was bs, too), but we still control our own destiny, so it aint the time to cry (never is). what i wonder is if this is like those judges that were in some country's pocket during the olympics a while back. i really hope not - fifa should deal swiftly and harshly with this guy. heard a commentator on the radio today saying that this controversy is a good thing 'cos it is getting more americans talking about the real football. while the latter is true, i dont ever think it a good thing when your team gets hosed by weak officiating. too bad this stuff isnt in prime time: the crack of dawn is not the easiest time to watch a the real football game...

mexico is looking strong. england... well, they are in the same boat as we are (difference is, everybody expected so much more from england); they have more pressure than the us team to win their next match (i think both win and advance)...

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Reply #150 - Jun 19th, 2010 at 9:25pm
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Jumping Jack wrote on Jun 19th, 2010 at 3:24pm:
Cup seems to be won by luck in equal proportion to skill due to poor quality officials every time it is played.  Fans seem to prefer this element of the game over the potential delays associated with reviews and getting the call right.  Sad, sad, sad!

Which country will get screwed next?


did you see the USA game... it's ok to mug players in the penalty zone and they get the foul...






Right,guy from Slovenia had a bear hug on an American and no call. That ref isn't qualified to call a 10 year old's game....Let alone a WC game. piss off
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Ernie Els will be playing in the second last group with Tiger at Pebble Beach today.  I wonder if someone will blow a vuvuzela in Tiger's backswing?  That would start a torrent of F-bombs for sure, LOL!

Will the luck of the Irish be enough for McDowell today?

Actually Els is playing with Phil Mickelson today. Let's hope their are no vuvu's on the course and good luck to Phil.
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Well...entertaining match from Brazil and Ivory Coast yesterday. French ref was perhaps the worst appearance I've seen during this tournament: missing a double hands ball before the second goal, not giving red cards to two players from Ivory Coast. I guess he desperately wanted to get more attention than his national team.

I double checked to see if the French squad didn't wear orange shirts btw, since the national team of my country has a long tradition to uphold in ruining tournaments in the way France does now.
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French ref was perhaps the worst appearance I've seen during this tournament: missing a double hands ball before the second goal, not giving red cards to two players from Ivory Coast. I guess he desperately wanted to get more attention than his national team.


Yes, shame shame shame, also a clear corner was missing and the worst thing was that after the double-hand before the goal (breaking Maradon's record LOL) he was joking with the player asking him if that was his shoulder instead!

Worst referee so far

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This is old news, but I just found out, so it's NEWS to me!

Javier "El Chicharito" Hernandez is going to be playing for a British team called "Manchester United".  Apparently, it's a big thing.  The whole transaction cost £10 million British pounds!

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This is old news, but I just found out, so it's NEWS to me!

Javier "El Chicharito" Hernandez is going to be playing for a British team called "Manchester United".  Apparently, it's a big thing.  The whole transaction cost £10 million British pounds!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntd-rNZ5mwA&feature=related

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Yay!


Man U is too Brit Premier Legue, what the Yankess are to american baseball...
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Where's the best football?

All the teams now have two matches completed, so far the best football is in Latin América, specially South America:
  • Except for Honduras, all the Latin American teams are on top of their groups
  • Except for the USA and Honduras all the American teams are on top of their groups
  • All the South American teams are heading their groups
  • Today all the latin countries won (Portugal 7-0, Chile 1-0 and Spain 2-0)


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Where's the best football?

All the teams now have two matches completed, so far the best football is in Latin América, specially South America:
  • Except for Honduras, all the Latin American teams are on top of their groups
  • Except for the USA and Honduras all the American teams are on top of their groups
  • All the South American teams are heading their groups
  • Today all the latin countries won (Portugal 7-0, Chile 1-0 and Spain 2-0)




The European teams are in dissaray... France and England seem to be...
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The problem with these group stage matches is that the strong countries face opponents that do no play to win. If a team gets through the wall of defenders early, chances are you'll see a decent match (see Portugal yesterday, Germany in the first round of matches) but if they don't you'll get games like Spain-Switzerland, Netherlands-Japan or Brazil-North Korea.

Results aside, I also see the difference between most of the European teams and those of South America. Somehow the Euro's look more tired. 
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This is old news, but I just found out, so it's NEWS to me!

Javier "El Chicharito" Hernandez is going to be playing for a British team called "Manchester United".  !


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The problem with these group stage matches is that the strong countries face opponents that do no play to win. If a team gets through the wall of defenders early, chances are you'll see a decent match (see Portugal yesterday, Germany in the first round of matches) but if they don't you'll get games like Spain-Switzerland, Netherlands-Japan or Brazil-North Korea.

Results aside, I also see the difference between most of the European teams and those of South America. Somehow the Euro's look more tired.  



how many of these players are coming right from other tournaments and very active leagues? I don't follow close enough to know... we just UEFA, BPL just ended not too long ago, Italians Leagues too... I know Argentina just wrapped up a season... is it possible some players are just not rested and also not used to these teamates...? and others are just tight and have jeeled with their teams...
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Reply #164 - Jun 22nd, 2010 at 8:19am
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Hey Pdog, let me tell you this, when a player is selected to be in the national team they are "recluted" before and leave their league matches, but anyway, many of the national teams played "friendly matches" before the world cup
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Every major league ended a few weeks before the championships started. Especially the players of Inter and Bayern Munchen should be worn out: they played their national league, national cup and Uefa Champions League til the finals..thing is: most of the South American stars play in the big leagues (England, Spain, Italy) so they should be just as tired.

So there must be some differences in the way the teams fill their days...
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gorda wrote on Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:11am:
This is old news, but I just found out, so it's NEWS to me!

Javier "El Chicharito" Hernandez is going to be playing for a British team called "Manchester United".  !


Yeah, I think I've heard of them... Ouch!


LOL Gorda, Manchester United is probably the most important football club all over the planet, I think it's the most successful too, the wealthiest, one of the oldest and the one with more budget with Real Madrid close to them. BTW, even that England is British the proper way to call them is "English"

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Every major league ended a few weeks before the championships started. Especially the players of Inter and Bayern Munchen should be worn out: they played their national league, national cup and Uefa Champions League til the finals..thing is: most of the South American stars play in the big leagues (England, Spain, Italy) so they should be just as tired.

So there must be some differences in the way the teams fill their days...



some of the big stars, think they are coachs, really messing up the teams... so much drama with that french player leaving his team...
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The situation with France was an accident waiting to happen, but I don't think anyone expected the trainwreck it is now. I'm more surprised of the situation with England. Their coach Capello is a force to be reckoned with in football...but I guess that's the lack of results talking through the players.

Normally the Netherlands have this kind of crap: they fucked up tournaments that way in 1990, 1994, 1996, 2002. Even in 78 it was a mess because Cruyff (the greatest Dutch player of all time) refused to go to Argentina. But they reached the final in that one, so it probably doesn't count.
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Gazza wrote on Jun 22nd, 2010 at 6:17am:
gorda wrote on Jun 21st, 2010 at 11:11am:
This is old news, but I just found out, so it's NEWS to me!

Javier "El Chicharito" Hernandez is going to be playing for a British team called "Manchester United".  !


Yeah, I think I've heard of them... Ouch!


LOL Gorda, Manchester United is probably the most important football club all over the planet, I think it's the most successful too, the wealthiest, one of the oldest and the one with more budget with Real Madrid close to them. BTW, even that England is British the proper way to call them is "English"



Certainly not the wealthiest anymore, Gerardo - £1 billion in debt thanks to their American owners using them to finance the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Not even the richest in England either since Roman Abramovich bought over Chelsea a few years ago..or even the richest in Manchester, as Manchester City would be the richest now since being bought by a Dubai sheikh a couple of years back.

Real Madrid and Barcelona would be the only clubs who could really be 'bigger' than United though (although United have a bigger following worldwide and would be the most recognisable club name/brand in world sport). Real Madrid would certainly be the most successful club side in the world, however (9 European Cup wins). Liverpool and Manchester united both have 18 league title wins in England (even though Liverpool have been shit for 20 years), but Liverpool are 5-3 ahead in European Cup wins.
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Mexico is gonna play their last match this Sunday, I don't see how we can beat Argentina

So long sucker

I hope the final to be Argentina - Uruguay so at least we will be able to say "Well, we lost against the champion and subchampion"

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Keep that chin up Voodoo. The offensive part of Diego's team is the greatest on this tournament, but their midfield is okay-ish, and I'm not too impressed with Argentina's defense. Even Greece cut through it a few times tonight, so Mexico can do that too. If your team manages to cut the lines between Messi and the rest, there's a chance.
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England's internal problems will have one of two possible outcomes. Either they'll fuck up completely against Slovenia or else they'll hammer them. Cant really see them scraping a narrow victory.
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Congratulations to the USA and England, especially to the USA as being first of the Group will avoid Germany in the round of 16!!

England - Germany once more  (my guess)

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Cant really see them scraping a narrow victory.


Hmm... didn't quite get that one right, did we?  Wink

Actually, the result was quite close to how I envisaged it - certainly the second half, at least. We really struggled in the latter stages and IMO, we'll be out next round.

One crumb of comfort? The USA will be going out with us!
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Brutal,the USA can't even get in an open net.  Funny comment in the first half from the announcer on ESPN when the USA missed a great chance. The Rolling Stones have a song called 19 th nervous breakdown,that must be how they feel. You rock!


he also mentioned Shattered... it was afunny moment, even though I was freaking out... USA deserved to win on so many levels... I'm so glad we don't play Germany next... that's my 2nd team to support after my home country... I screamed so loud when we socred, my neighbors heard me... I haven't been this ecited over a win, since Phillie won the series...
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And there it is: Germany - England...predictions anyone?


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Ghana has a good chance for the qf's but it won't be 3-0..that team is great at missing great opportunities in front of the goal. And the USA is not the best team, but they fight for every inch of the field. It won't bring them the title, but I wouldn't be surprised if they make it to the last 8. Still, of the certain matches of round 2: Ghana-USA 1-0, Germany - England 2-0, Argentina - Mexico 3-2 (extra time), Uruguay - South Korea 2-0.

I'm curious who will be the next opponent for my team: either Paraguay or Italy, who'll beat Slovakia 1-0 through an offside goal. No walkovers for the Netherlands to say the least..
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A bit more like it from England yesterday. I thought they played pretty well.

Great to see the US going through - would have been an absolute travesty had they been knocked out due to two bad refereeing decisions in their last two games. They're certainly keeping it interesting with these last gasp finishes (the joke going around is that the World Cup is turming out like WW2 - the French surrender near the start, the Americans leave it to  the last minute - and the English end up fighting the Germans..)

Ghana should be beatable for the US - and if they manage that, I think they'll play Uruguay or South Korea. Neither of whom are exactly world beaters. The winners of England v Germany would play Argentina or Mexico.
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Americans do it better and sexier...  Ghana goalie will have more balls in his face than Ryan Seacrest on a Saturday night!

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Ryan Seacreast was at the game!  And, so was former President Clinton.
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And down goes the champion!!! Shocker!!! Italy got a piece of their own medicine in the last 20 minutes..



I know that on the first page of this thread I predicted that Italy and France wouldnt do much in this World Cup, but I sure as hell didnt expect them BOTH to finish bottom of their groups and exit so early. Behind New Zealand and South Africa respectively. Great effort from the Kiwis to leave the tournament undefeated.

Still stand by my original prediction that the only two European sides who could win this are Spain and Holland. Even though Spain have a lot to do yet to get into the knockout stages. Holland have cruised through their group with three wins in second gear. An ominous sign for everyone else.

Watched Japan - Denmark this evening and was very impressed with the Japanese. They have a cracker of a player called Honda (he plays like a Ferrari  Smiley ) and will be a tough game for anyone.
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Honda is amazing: he played for small Dutch team till christmas, wanted to go to Ajax or PSV Eindhoven badly but both the teams were out of funds..so now he plays in Moscow. Shame: would've loved to see him in Amsterdam.

The Dutch played with a lack of focus during the begining of the second half, hence the penalty. It could've been worse. And Robben returned and almost made the winning one (hit the pole). Huntelaar was there to finish it in the rebound.
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Honda is amazing: he played for small Dutch team till christmas, wanted to go to Ajax or PSV Eindhoven badly but both the teams were out of funds..so now he plays in Moscow. Shame: would've loved to see him in Amsterdam.

The Dutch played with a lack of focus during the begining of the second half, hence the penalty. It could've been worse. And Robben returned and almost made the winning one (hit the pole). Huntelaar was there to finish it in the rebound.  


I so want to hear a commentator say "and Honda driving forward with the ball"

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Well, please change Argentina by Mexico, too bad Spain and Mexico/argentina cannot be together in the final

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are those your predictions? We differ on Germany/Mexico results... then again, our perspectives may be flawed... I want my home country to win, but Ghana really is a good team... if USa can play like they did last game, and not give up an early goal or any goals, they can pull it out with that one miracle goal... they are creating mid field plays and are getting to the penaly zone alot and putting on the pressure... as long as our defense is tight, we can make it to the quarterfinal... my gut is already in a knot!
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are those your predictions? We differ on Germany/Mexico results... !


Which prediction in the image is Mexico but below the image is Argentina

Well, if you read my comment below the image "Well, please change Argentina by Mexico" is because I don't think Mexico is gonna win against Argentina and in the case it passes I don't bet a dime against Germany. However I think Argentina will beat Germany

The best match is coming and it will be Brazil - Netherlands, I watched the same match in 1994 in Dallas, that is real football babies

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are those your predictions? We differ on Germany/Mexico results... !


Which prediction in the image is Mexico but below the image is Argentina

Well, if you read my comment below the image "Well, please change Argentina by Mexico" is because I do0n't think Mexico is gonna win against Argentina.

The best match is coming and it will be Brazil - Netherlands, I watched the same match in 1994 in Dallas, that is real football babies

Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?


spain and portugaul too... i think that will be a great game to watch... i'm excited for them all...

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Fucking treacherous bastard!

Still, if he shows his face at the England match tomorrow, all is forgiven.
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What could those two possibly have in common?

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Matt Clifford is there too, just behind Mick.



Boooooooooooooooo!!!!

You know what this means. They're there recording the locals playing those fucking vuvuzelas so they can use them on the  token 'experimental' song on the next Stones record.
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Fucking treacherous bastard!

Still, if he shows his face at the England match tomorrow, all is forgiven.



Need I remind you what happened the last time Jagger attended a WC match?

England losing to the Argies in '98. On penalties.
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What the fuck?

Check out the second finger from the end on Mick's left hand.

Something happened he hasnt told anyone about?
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Fucking treacherous bastard!

Still, if he shows his face at the England match tomorrow, all is forgiven.



Need I remind you what happened the last time Jagger attended a WC match?

England losing to the Argies in '98. On penalties.


What about England-Portugal in 2006?

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Need I remind you what happened the last time Jagger attended a WC match?

England losing to the Argies in '98. On penalties.


Oh, yeah...  Oh no! not you again

Still, there was one moment fg bliss, at least.

Oh, if only he stay fit for 5 minutes and be partnering Ronney up front!

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Voodoo predition is @ 100% so far

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Are we going to have show up and help you beat Germany?

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I'm pulling for Germany... my 2nd team...
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haha...

I'm pulling for Germany... my 2nd team...
very proud of my country's team... they did very well, at least after the 45 minute mark.




Are you of German ancestry ? If not, there is only one country you should be rooting for and it’s the nation who colonised your slab of land all ‘em years ago!

No, seriously, you guys did well and should be proud to have made it out of the group stages. Hopefully, your exploits will heighten the awareness and you’ll get more kids wanting to play the sport. Donovan and co have done more for U.S. the real football than brand Beckham could ever do.
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I don't think I could have taken another game from the USA had they won!

Scrappy players with guts and determination, but they ran out of gas.  Best USA World Cup team we've ever had.  Maybe there IS hope for the future!


So tomorrow I cheer for my number 2 team.  Please, Rooney, show up to play!!
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Are we going to have show up and help you beat Germany?

haha...

I'm pulling for Germany... my 2nd team...
very proud of my country's team... they did very well, at least after the 45 minute mark.




Are you of German ancestry ? If not, there is only one country you should be rooting for and it’s the nation who colonised your slab of land all ‘em years ago!

No, seriously, you guys did well and should be proud to have made it out of the group stages. Hopefully, your exploits will heighten the awareness and you’ll get more kids wanting to play the sport. Donovan and co have done more for U.S. the real football than brand Beckham could ever do.

"brand Beckham"...

good one HTM!! Grin Grin 

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I don't think I could have taken another game from the USA had they won!

Scrappy players with guts and determination, but they ran out of gas.  Best USA World Cup team we've ever had.  Maybe there IS hope for the future!


So tomorrow I cheer for my number 2 team.  Please, Rooney, show up to play!!



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Well, we all know how it started, don’t we?

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Of course the war plays a part among the older generations. In the Netherlands people are never going to forget the 74 world cup, when Germany beat the Dutch dream team in the final. Then the orange boys won the semi-final of Euro 88 after which a rivalry started between the teams. It got ugly in 1990, but in recent years it's gotten more friendly. There's more mutual respect these days. I was at the university the other week when the Germans lost against the Serbs. Students were actually venting their dissapointments. 20 years ago they would've been tarred and feathered, now most people actually agreed.

Sorry to see team USA go btw. They put up a good fight in the second half, but in the extra time the energy was gone..
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Don't get me wrong, HTM!

I DO like the Beckham Brand, but he hasn't done anything to help the real football in the USA.
I wish he would take his beeeeeuuutiful  wife back home where she belongs....
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Honky Tonk Man wrote on Jun 26th, 2010 at 4:40pm:

Don't get me wrong, HTM!

I DO like the Beckham Brand, but he hasn't done anything to help the real football in the USA.
I wish he would take his beeeeeuuutiful  wife back home where she belongs....



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Great pictures. They also show how tight he is with Matt Clifford.
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That might account for the wedding ring!

Anyway, they're at the England - Germany game too. Jagger was on-camera singing GSTQ - and then quite visibly noticed that he had been picked out by the cameras.....
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He's Mick's water-boy.

Played keyboards on the 1989-90 Stones tour and been a regular collaborator on solo work ever since. Also played a bit on ABB.

This will probably be the only time we'll see Mick sing in 2010.

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WTF a real authentic goal was missed by the referee, the revenge from 1966 or what?
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'66 was a debatable decision. That one wasnt even close. Absolute fucking robbery and another embarrassment for a billion dollar sport which refuses to move out of the dark ages and use technology which would have cleared that error up in seconds. Everyone but FIFA seems to want this.  You cant really blame the ref - if he doesnt see something, he cant give it. FIFA refuse to make his job easier.

That said, England should have been about four down by the time they got a goal back. They were being outplayed and the two goals they conceded were criminal.

Theyve come back well but maybe the break will give Germany a chance to compose themselves again.

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That decision was horrifying and Blatter is the worst head of FIFA there has ever been. However, England were shocking in the first half and even worse in the second. People can talk about the goal but they were useless in almost every game and didn't even deserve to get out of the group. Honestly there can be few excuses for this. Germany were just considerably superior. They passed beautifully, moved well, finished, and were just miles ahead of England.
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That decision was horrifying and Blatter is the worst head of FIFA there has ever been. However, England were shocking in the first half and even worse in the second. People can talk about the goal but they were useless in almost every game and didn't even deserve to get out of the group. Honestly there can be few excuses for this. Germany were just considerably superior. They passed beautifully, moved well, finished, and were just miles ahead of England.



Agree totally, unfortunately. If anything, it was better to lose 4-1 than to lose to the disallowed goal. No arguments needed.

Another tournament of abject performances. If I saw goals conceded like that in the Irish League, I'd be hounding the players responsible out of the club. Yet David James in goal was England's best player.

Maybe a blessing in disguise that they went out now. I shudder to think what Messi and Argentina would have done to that back four of England.

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Well, what an utterly despicable display we put in. Our back four were atrocious – no other way to put it. James was commanding in goal, but he was let down badly.

We could debate Lampard’s disallowed effort all evening, but it was on overall poor display and we probably would’ve lost anyway. I think we looked OK in the early stages of the second-half, before totally switching off.

There is only one thing for it now: a cap on the number of foreigners in the Premier League. As great as they are for entertainment value, we have an ageing squad and we should all fear for the future. Just how, exactly, are England’s brightest youngsters going to make it if they are squeezed out by the likes of Arsen Wenger’s Arsenal and Abramovich’s foreign regime at Chelsea?
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Now, now, now......

The Germans were a superior team.  
FIFA should come out of the dark ages.

And on with the games.  My 2 teams are out..  
Who do I cheer for..
Can't bring myself to cheer for Germany, as good as they were..
No not Brazil either
Portugal has Ronaldo- good looking but...nah
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There is only one thing for it now: a cap on the number of foreigners in the Premier League. As great as they are for entertainment value, we have an ageing squad and we should all fear for the future. Just how, exactly, are England’s brightest youngsters going to make it if they are squeezed out by the likes of Arsen Wenger’s Arsenal and Abramovich’s foreign regime at Chelsea?


I think it might be more complicated than that. The game at younger levels in England is not based on technical ability and things haven't changed much in the last 20 years with regards to a fast paced physical game. Kids don't play street football in the same way as kids in other countries with better technical skills. Apart from that, what about the English talent that did make it through? Upson? shocking. Even the big names of Lampard, Gerrard, and Rooney were shocking. These are players who play regularly for their clubs. I think there is an argument for restrictions simply because the coach can pick from a far bigger pool but I honestly don't think the first eleven would be that much different. English players have been technically inferior to the other countries since 1990 and have never had a team to match even smaller countries like Romania.
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Well, so far my prediction still at 100%

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And as posted before, I think Argentina is gonna win today, but just change Mexico by Argentina, the rest will be the same (now I have second thoughts about Germany, I'm sure they will beat Argentina (or Mexico)

Today first half of Germany-England was the best part of the world cup so far
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Absolute fucking robbery and another embarrassment for a billion dollar sport which refuses to move out of the dark ages and use technology which would have cleared that error up in seconds. Everyone but FIFA seems to want this.  You cant really blame the ref - if he doesnt see something, he cant give it. FIFA refuse to make his job easier.


Same now, Argenina Scored in a very clear off-side, shame shame shame
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I don't understand the FIFA leaders. All those bad referee calls are making them look like fools. Besides, it's unfair to the winning teams too - it makes it look like they didn't deserve their victory.

Of course, I'm not saying this for the English goal, which was clearly invalid !
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Excellent game once again ruined by the fuckwittery of the officials and thanks to the clowns at FIFA.

the irony being that it seemed that the referee knew he had made a mistake when the Mexican team pointed out his mistake on the big screen - yet he couldnt/wouldnt change his decision because he would have been using video technology to make the right call.

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Now, now, now......

The Germans were a superior team.  
FIFA should come out of the dark ages.

And on with the games.  My 2 teams are out..  
Who do I cheer for..
Can't bring myself to cheer for Germany, as good as they were..
No not Brazil either
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This World Cup has been a joke because of the referees. The ball is a superstar compared to the refs. Handing out red cards for nothing, disallowing goals, calling offside with people miles onside, not calling clear offside goals. How many mistakes can there be. In any organization, the sensible thing would be to say the CEO needs to go but when you have a the Blatter machine behind you, no one says anything. This has been a joke and a potentially great tournament has been utterly destroyed by the worst standard of refereeing I have ever seen.
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Two matches, two major fuck-ups by the refs. And that idiot Blatter issues a statement right after the England-Germany match that says they stand by their decision to work without chipped balls that give a sign if they pass the goal line and that there's not gonna be revised judgements based on video. England was robbed and so was Mexico: Tevez was offside by 2 meters with that first goal..
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Thanks Teiz and not just that we gave the second goal as a gift, a big fuck up by our player

Well, Spain is alive, so I still have my very own team on the road
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I think Germany would've defeated England anyway, like Argentina probably would've won against Mexico. But we'll never know what would've happened if the ref in the first match would've seen the goal and if the ref in the second one would've called the first Tevez goal for what it was: offside. You get totally different matches. And that's the point. Losing a match in a fair fight is fine: ending up grumpy for an evening is usually all it takes. But losing a match because bunch of fossils refuse to acknowledge that living in 2010 has some advantages that will help the game forward just sucks balls.

Guus Hiddink said it today: Blatter has two options: admit Fifa is wrong or get the hell out of his office. Of course, that idiot will do neither. Time for the big football nations to make a stand.
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Well this answers my question from last week about who will get screwed next.

Fans should just walk away from the sport until it gets cleaned up.  It's humiliating.

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Well this answers my question from last week about who will get screwed next.

Fans should just walk away from the sport until it gets cleaned up.  It's humiliating.




I agree, the calls were bad... but both teams blew it too... I know it sucks for fans... Mexico lloked downright terrible at one point, passing the ball right to Argentinians or just kicking the ball blindly... and I thought Germany played damned near perfect...

while were talking about it, how would the use replay? In the MLB, they have allowed it in a very limited sense for homeruns... but in the NFL, they stop the game, which already has enough timeouts, and the games take forever... the one thing I love about the real football, is a 90 minute game, is played in less than two hours, including the halftime break... have you ever watched a 4 hour american football game... the NHL seems to get it right with replay...
would they look at ball crossing the line fully? offsides, which is sometimes really close and subjective... and would an opposing player touch be looked at? so much to think about if FIFA uses replays....
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Who's in charge of officiating for the World Cup, Tony Hayward Ouch!

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Field hockey has a video umpire that monitors the match from the sidelines. He intervenes at bad calls. It hardly breaks up the matches.

Fans aren't gonna ban games. This is something the national federations must do: if the big markets tell Blatter to go fuck himself if he doesn't allow modern technology for the next tournament, we'll see a change. Fifa needs the money from the big leagues. Sponsors should do the same.
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Won't happen, Alex. Restriction of trade under EU regulations and all that pc-bollocks.


Oh, I know it won’t happen, but it should. I may be wrong, but is there not some kind of restriction in the lower tiers, now? I.E. Championship, League One, etc?  Actually, also, were they not recently talking about a cap on foreigners for European competitions? For example: Arsenal could only field 4 non-English players?

If there are rules in place regarding international football and which nation you represent, then why can there not be in the domestic leagues? It’s all an utter nonsense.

Tiez. I take your points on board, but I am going to respectfully disagree with you, here.
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@HTM: so you're against the use of video replay?

I'd be all for a cap of players from abroad. Ajax is in ruins because everyone that gives a decent pass will move to the bigger leagues because that's where the money is. No way you can build a team in a smaller country this way. At the same time you see problems with the English and the Italian teams: young players don't get a chance because the latest star from Holland, Poland, Belgium or Uruguay arrived. People like Bergkamp or Robben will always get a shot in a bigger league, but these days even the players that don't bring that much extra leave after a few years.

Uefa must think of a way to go around the EU-regulations: I'd say 3/4 of a team should be schooled within their own team, something like that. Probably won't work, but something should be done.

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No, not that part! I agree with you on that one.  Smiley
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Are we going to have show up and help you beat Germany?

haha...

I'm pulling for Germany... my 2nd team...
very proud of my country's team... they did very well, at least after the 45 minute mark.




Are you of German ancestry ? If not, there is only one country you should be rooting for and it’s the nation who colonised your slab of land all ‘em years ago!

No, seriously, you guys did well and should be proud to have made it out of the group stages. Hopefully, your exploits will heighten the awareness and you’ll get more kids wanting to play the sport. Donovan and co have done more for U.S. the real football than brand Beckham could ever do.


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Next stop: Brazil! Let's just say I don't expect a walk-over..
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Next stop: Brazil! Let's just say I don't expect a walk-over..


Teiz, IF we beat Brazil, yes IF, I think Holland will be the next Worldchampion. They don't play very well, but they do play solid I think.
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Next stop: Brazil! Let's just say I don't expect a walk-over..


you got my support, i like the underdog, but i like holland anyway... great country! i'm stilling pulling for germany to win it all...
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TOMMY COOPER joke. A man goes to the doctor.

"Doctor, " he says, "I've broken my arm in several places."

"Well, " says the doctor, "don't go to those places."

This is the moral to take from this World Cup, not to mention the last 10 World Cups. "Doctor, England's hearts have been broken in several places." "Well, don't go to those places."

It's high time England stopped playing international football.

It sends a generally sensible nation stupid. We, unlike half the rest of the world, do not normally live in a state of borderline hysteria. But that's what we've just been through. It must not be allowed to happen again. England should just give it up, forget it and leave it to the poor suckers who really need it.

This isn't a new feeling for me. I've had it for years. In fact I can't remember why I haven't told you before. Because it's just not our thing. We're no good at it, it upsets us and there's no need for us to do it. As the millionaire businessman said when he'd missed yet another simple putt: "I've been very successful in business, I've all the money I'll ever need. I've a lovely wife, lovely house, lovely family, why do I keep coming to this golf club and humiliating myself like this?"

We have the Premier League, which is the richest and most popular in the world, watched and relished everywhere from Bel Air to Beijing; Manchester United is the most famous club on earth; David Beckham by far the biggest thing in global football.

He knows what's what: he went through the whole tournament in South Africa without taking his waistcoat off. Why? Because he knows if he had played, he would be a disappointment for all concerned.

OTHER countries play in this World Cup thingy because they need the money or the glory: they're failed states, dictatorships, new (Slovenia, Slovakia) or else international football's the best thing they've got (most of Latin America). The US was in the World Cup but they only go because they know it doesn't matter - whether they win or lose at the real football is of no importance to any of the population.

None of this is true of England. We have the beating of the Germans at some things; it just happens that, give or take one exception, it isn't World Cup football. Let's take them on at cricket, rock music, cheese making, fashion, morris dancing, monarchy; in fact anything but football, motor cars and sausages.

I am more concerned for the humilaited ordinary folk of this country than I am for the feelings of David Cameron. After all, he's paid to be humiliated. Nonetheless watching the Germany match with Angela Merkel, as he did, cannot have made for a happy afternoon.

Sportswise, the Americans are people who know what's what. They concentrate on sports nobody else plays. They don't have to worry about being stuffed by Algeria or Slovenia. They play baseball and call their cup final the World Series.

Nobody else in the world is involved, which is what makes it great. What they call "football" is American football. Nobody else plays it.

The English have often been slow at getting out of things they aren't very good at any more. It took about a hundred years to realise the empire was not much cop and we'd be better off not sending chaps to far-flung parts to get sunburn and malaria and bitten by tsetse flies.

The secret of happiness and success is simple: stick to what you're good at, do it in the place where you do it best and don't get delusions of grandeur. When great-looking women everybody fancies decide they want to be appreciated for something else, they come to grief.

They're loved for their beauty but they want to be loved for their brains. Bad idea.

This is the moment to disband the whole England football operation.

Comrade Rooney must rue the day he got picked for England - go back to Manchester where you're a legend.

That's where you make people happy and that's the business you're in.

Only one exception to this "no England" rule can be considered. We aren't too bad at home - 1966 went well and Euro 96 was good - but we haven't beaten a major country in the knockout stages of the World Cup abroad in the last 44 years. If the 2018 World Cup is in England, maybe go for it. If not, forget it.

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Gazza, do you think england is just a sore loser... I mean jeez... only one team, one country will win it all... and there's alot of talent out there. Look how mnay countries don't even qualify. I hope you don't agree with the media, they are just doing what they do best... be assholes. This talk of quitting because you can't win, is way lamer that defeat!!! I hope you disagree... IMO, the problewm is, most of the Englsih player, and other teams like france and Italy, have too many overpaid asshole superstars... Field a team of hungry no names, who love the game, and you'd be surprised... they'd probably do better!
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My prediction still @ 100% as Paraguay just won in penalties 5-3, bye bye Japan

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Gazza, do you think england is just a sore loser... I mean jeez... only one team, one country will win it all... and there's alot of talent out there. Look how mnay countries don't even qualify. I hope you don't agree with the media, they are just doing what they do best... be assholes. This talk of quitting because you can't win, is way lamer that defeat!!! I hope you disagree... IMO, the problewm is, most of the Englsih player, and other teams like france and Italy, have too many overpaid asshole superstars... Field a team of hungry no names, who love the game, and you'd be surprised... they'd probably do better!



Its not being a 'sore loser', mate - the whole article is quite evidently tongue in cheek.

If anything, the English press tend to be sore winners. They tend to build people up just to knock them down again. They're like baying wolves drooling waiting for someone to fail so they can devour them.

Totally agree with the problem of overpaid superstars. Thats a main reason why I prefer following my own local club who I've more in common  with (and am absolutely fanatical about)  than getting worked up about teams who I only see on TV and who aren't really anywhere near as good as the exposure they get and money they generate suggests.
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Totally agree with the problem of overpaid superstars. Thats a main reason why I prefer following my own local club who I've more in common  with (and am absolutely fanatical about)  than getting worked up about teams who I only see on TV and who aren't really anywhere near as good as the exposure they get and money they generate suggests.


And I couldn’t agree with you more, Gazza. More and more folk are turning to lower league football (non-league, in particular) as the top-flight is getting far too dear and the pampered premiership stars are getting more and more spoilt with every passing season.

A friend of mine is a Spurs season ticket holder and follows Dartford (Conference South) when they’re away from White Hart Lane. He seriously gets as much joy from watching his local team than he does from sitting in overpriced seats in North London every other Saturday.

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The semi's: Uruguay-Netherlands and Germany-Spain. Then my team will go on to beat Germany in the final. Wishful thinking? Perhaps. But for the first time in a long time the orange boys have nothing to lose this friday.

Revelation of the tournament for me: Mesut Ozil from Germany. But the German midfield is a joy to watch anyway. I hope Ozil's management is wise enough to allow him one more season with his current team Werder Bremen.
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Pdog wrote on Jun 29th, 2010 at 8:53am:
Gazza, do you think england is just a sore loser... I mean jeez... only one team, one country will win it all... and there's alot of talent out there. Look how mnay countries don't even qualify. I hope you don't agree with the media, they are just doing what they do best... be assholes. This talk of quitting because you can't win, is way lamer that defeat!!! I hope you disagree... IMO, the problewm is, most of the Englsih player, and other teams like france and Italy, have too many overpaid asshole superstars... Field a team of hungry no names, who love the game, and you'd be surprised... they'd probably do better!



Its not being a 'sore loser', mate - the whole article is quite evidently tongue in cheek.

If anything, the English press tend to be sore winners. They tend to build people up just to knock them down again. They're like baying wolves drooling waiting for someone to fail so they can devour them.

Totally agree with the problem of overpaid superstars. Thats a main reason why I prefer following my own local club who I've more in common  with (and am absolutely fanatical about)  than getting worked up about teams who I only see on TV and who aren't really anywhere near as good as the exposure they get and money they generate suggests.



sound like the NFL, NBA and MLB here in the states... anything past the high school level here is getting to be all about money and marquee players... bummer too, because they are all great games and most of us played them as kids, and remember how much fun we had...
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My quarterfinal predictions on who will win:
Brazil
Uruguay
Germany
Spain


Two of the best five teams will be going out this weekend.

Netherlands/Brazil is a toss-up.  I've gone for a Spain-Netherlands final from the start, so I'm sticking with that. Low scoring game. 1-0 for the Dutch, or maybe they'll win on penalties.

Uruguay should have too much for Ghana. Both have done remarkably well to get this far, Uruguay are by far the smallest country ever to win the World Cup, and theyve too much firepower on this occasion. 2-0 Uruguay.

Germany have been better in this tournament than I thought they'd be as theyve a young side. Could be a tournament too soon for them. Argentina to shade it by 2-1.

Paraguay have done very well to get to the last eight, but Spain are a big step up for them. 2-0 Spain.
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germany will win it all, defeating Brazil and putting to rest once and for all the beleif that hitler's clones were raised in south america...
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I hope you're right Gazza. I'd love to see my team beat Brazil. It's been a while and in 94 and 98 the eliminations weren't that fair. I put 10 euro's on a 4-3 win for the Netherlands. I guess I was drunk, and had my head filled with the beautiful all offense and no defense style both countries have showed in the past. The times have changed, but if I'm right it will be a qf long remembered. I don't think I have to state that a small win will do just fine for me tomorrow as well.
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I'll be wearing orange tomorrow Teiz!

You already have Mick Jagger rooting against you, which so far in the World Cup has been a guarantee of success.
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I'll be wearing orange tomorrow Teiz!

You already have Mick Jagger rooting against you, which so far in the World Cup has been a guarantee of success.
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Well to be fair. Mick is 1-2 in teams he has rooted for so far. The 1 being Brazil of course. Blank Frigging Stare
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In the USA, football is that game that dominates winter Sundays and features Lycra, helmets and men so large they should come with their own zip code.


Elsewhere, football is football. The round-ball sport, the beautiful game, with its biggest prize to be handed out here on July 11.

the real football? Pah, a silly American term created by a nation that has its own national obsession.

No country has been snootier toward the USA’s use of the term “the real football” than England. Before the Group C opener between the two sides in Rustenburg, the Sun newspaper even ran a spoof front page urging Fabio Capello’s side to win the “soccerball world series.”

But let’s take a halftime break here.

Coupled with their team’s humiliating exit from the World Cup it might be another rude awakening to the Brits that the real football isn’t an American term, it is actually an English one. And it isn’t some modern fad that shows disrespect to the world’s most popular sport, it dates back to the earliest days of the game’s professional history.

Indeed, until the last few decades, even Englishmen would routinely refer to their favorite pastime as the real football, just as often as they would say football.

Clive Toye, an Englishman who moved to the U.S. and became known as the father of modern American the real football, bringing Brazilian legend Pele to play for the New York Cosmos, takes up the story.

“the real football is a synonym for football,” said Toye, who helped launch the North American the real football League in the late 1960s. “And it has been used as such for more years than I can count. When I was a kid in England and grabbed a ball to go out and play … I would just as easily have said: ‘Let’s have a game of the real football’ as I would use the word ‘football’ instead. And I didn’t start it.”

To trace the origin of “the real football” we must go all the way back to 1863, and a meeting of gentlemen at a London pub, who congregated with the purpose of standardizing the rules of “football,” which was in its infant years as an organized sport but was growing rapidly in popularity.

Those assembled became the founding members of the Football Association (which still oversees the game in England to this day). And they decided to call their code Association Football, to differentiate it from Rugby Football.

A quirk of British culture is the permanent need to familiarize names by shortening them. “My friend Brian Johnston was Johnners,” said Toye. “They took the third, fourth and fifth letters of Association and called it the real football. So there you are.”

So forget that English condescension and carry on calling it the real football, safe in the knowledge that you’re more in tune with the roots of the sport than those mocking Brits.
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Rolling Stones frontman Sir Mick Jagger is back at the FIFA World Cup™ for a third time. He has been seen on TV as an enthusiastic football fan at the Round of 16 games featuring USA and Ghana, as well as his beloved England playing against Germany.

In an exclusive interview, FIFA.com caught up with Sir Mick to discuss his thoughts on South Africa 2010™ as he prepared to head to the Brazil v Chile game in Johannesburg.

FIFA.com: You've been spotted taking pictures at a few games at the FIFA World Cup™. So far, how have you enjoyed the matches?
Sir Mick Jagger: Well, I watched the rounds on TV when I was back in England, and I came for the post-group stage. I was kindly invited to go to the USA game [v Ghana, in Rustenburg]. I’ve got a large extended US family, so they said ‘Go!’ you know, but it was quite a long way. I didn’t realise how far it was! But it was fun. I enjoyed it, it was a good match, but USA lost, though they did pretty good.

You seemed to be supporting USA against Ghana...
I kind of was... I don’t have any Ghanaian relatives but I’ve got lots of American ones. I support England and my team is England. When I was there and you’re with 30 Americans in the box, I’m not going to support Ghana really, let’s face it!

Who will you be supporting now that England and USA have gone out?
Well, my son is half-Brazilian and absolutely mad keen on football, like most people who are Brazilian, so we are going to see Brazil [v Chile] tonight. I hope they do better than England did.

You were sitting next to former President Bill Clinton at the Ghana match. How was he after the game?
Well, they were a bit disappointed. Obviously, every team wants to get as far as they can but I think they were kind of almost happy with getting past the group stage and obviously very happy coming top in that group. We always thought we were going to that game to see England play because we thought that was a relatively easy group.

What are you impressions of the first FIFA World Cup to be played in Africa? That’s quite special.
Yes, it’s very special. I was actually here about six months ago, just on holiday, and obviously everyone was so revved up for it and so proud. It’s a lot of work, but I think through it all it seems to be going well, there haven’t been any major problems... there’s the odd thing here and there but you’ll always get that. I think they should be really happy with it. I hope the host nation has enjoyed it as much as everyone who has visited.

Like any Englishman, you would have been disappointed to see England go out but why do you think England can’t match those expectations that are always there?
Well, obviously England always thinks of itself as a top international country, so that’s your expectation. It’s not like the United States that thinks: ‘OK, we’re glad to be in it... we’re not lucky to be in it, but proud to be in it’, whereas England you want them to go at least to the semi-finals, you know you expect it. When they don’t come up to that expectation, well... the higher the expectation, the bigger the disappointment, obviously. It has to be said, though everyone’s a pundit, that they didn’t really play. In this tournament they only scored three goals, so you are never going to win much if you only score three goals. You cut away the rest of it and that’s really where you’re left. I mean, you can let a few in but you’ve got to score a lot more, so that’s not what they did.

I hope the host nation has enjoyed it as much as everyone who has visited.Sir Mick Jagger
How many other FIFA World Cup finals have you been to?
I’ve been to two. I was at the France one [1998] and I was at it when it was in Germany [2006]. I think that was the only two. I sometimes get a bit confused with my European Cups, but I’ve definitely been to two.

Do you have any special memories of the finals?
My special memory, which was unfortunately not 100 per cent happy, was England v Argentina at St Etienne [1998], which was at a small ground in a very small town and it was an amazing match, for anyone that wasn’t there. I think David Beckham got sent off in that match for a pretty marginal incident, but it was an amazing game, England-Argentina, and that was one of my definite really stark memories of the World Cup. In 1966, God knows where I was, in America on tour I should think! This is my third World Cup and I’m very pleased to have brought my youngest son to it and it’s a great thing to be able to do, so I’m really having a good time.

You’ve been watching the games from home from the start. Which teams and players have impressed you so far?
Argentina. I think they’ve got fantastic scoring ability, which is what we were talking about earlier, which England didn’t seem to be able to match in this tournament. With [Carlos] Tevez, last night you could see how good they were against Mexico, so I think they are impressive. I mean, everyone fancied Spain pre-tournament. We’ll see, but I don’t know if they are going to be as good, and Germany have got some very good moves. I think this is quite wide open, this tournament, as we speak.

Where does your love of football stem from? Were you any good at it at school?
Useless, but actually I never played the real football at school. I went to a school that only played rugby and the real football was kind of frowned on, but we did play at the weekends. We didn’t play very seriously, but we always loved the real football and my family was always a great Arsenal-supporting family. I support Arsenal, but my eldest son goes every week, and I don’t go every week. We come from a family of keen supporters.

The sound of this FIFA World Cup has undoubtedly been the vuvuzela. What do you think of them?
Yes, it’s pretty mad really! It wasn’t as loud in the two games that I have been to as I was led to believe, but we’ll see tonight. It’s kind of odd rhythms that it sets up and you get used to it. You see so much of it on telly, so it’s not a surprise, but it is pretty loud in the stadium.

Have you had the chance to catch any South African music while you have been here?
I haven’t yet but I hope to now we’ve got a little bit of respite, so I hope to go and hear some live music in the next couple of days.

What are your plans from here? Are you going to stay with Brazil all the way?
We’ll see how Brazil do and then stay with that!

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In the USA, football is that game that dominates winter Sundays and features Lycra, helmets and men so large they should come with their own zip code.


Elsewhere, football is football. The round-ball sport, the beautiful game, with its biggest prize to be handed out here on July 11.

the real football? Pah, a silly American term created by a nation that has its own national obsession.

No country has been snootier toward the USA’s use of the term “the real football” than England. Before the Group C opener between the two sides in Rustenburg, the Sun newspaper even ran a spoof front page urging Fabio Capello’s side to win the “soccerball world series.”

But let’s take a halftime break here.

Coupled with their team’s humiliating exit from the World Cup it might be another rude awakening to the Brits that the real football isn’t an American term, it is actually an English one. And it isn’t some modern fad that shows disrespect to the world’s most popular sport, it dates back to the earliest days of the game’s professional history.

Indeed, until the last few decades, even Englishmen would routinely refer to their favorite pastime as the real football, just as often as they would say football.

Clive Toye, an Englishman who moved to the U.S. and became known as the father of modern American the real football, bringing Brazilian legend Pele to play for the New York Cosmos, takes up the story.

“the real football is a synonym for football,” said Toye, who helped launch the North American the real football League in the late 1960s. “And it has been used as such for more years than I can count. When I was a kid in England and grabbed a ball to go out and play … I would just as easily have said: ‘Let’s have a game of the real football’ as I would use the word ‘football’ instead. And I didn’t start it.”

To trace the origin of “the real football” we must go all the way back to 1863, and a meeting of gentlemen at a London pub, who congregated with the purpose of standardizing the rules of “football,” which was in its infant years as an organized sport but was growing rapidly in popularity.

Those assembled became the founding members of the Football Association (which still oversees the game in England to this day). And they decided to call their code Association Football, to differentiate it from Rugby Football.

A quirk of British culture is the permanent need to familiarize names by shortening them. “My friend Brian Johnston was Johnners,” said Toye. “They took the third, fourth and fifth letters of Association and called it the real football. So there you are.”

So forget that English condescension and carry on calling it the real football, safe in the knowledge that you’re more in tune with the roots of the sport than those mocking Brits.



For a country that supports the real football as poorly as we do in the USA, I think we've fielded some damn good teams, and we're getting better and better all the time... I'm not saying NASCAR drivers are out of shape people, but alot of the fans are... and that is huge here... most people love sports they platyed or even still play... well, here in the USa most people like to sit on their asses and would rather drive a block to get a cheeseburger than walk a mile for exercise... i'm not judging, i just have eyes!!! I can't wait for the next set of games... I think most of us here are rooting the orange men...
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Half time and I died a few times..my boys are getting slaughtered. Stupid goal..regular defender got injured during the warmup and we now have a 35 year old Ooijer that can't keep up with the strikers in the Dutch League against Robino. In short: it will take a miracle to get out of this one alive.. you made a grown man cry
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Felipe Melo is the "Man of the Match" for you LOL own goal and then red card

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I was at the Brazil- Netherlands match in 1994 in Dallas, it was 2-1 too but Brazil won, now it was "Chunga's Revenge" in the "Waka Jawaka" tournament

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Jesus!!!!! Guess who'll be drunk about right NOW!!! FUCK FUCK FUCK!!! We're in the semi's!

I thought it was all done...first half it could've been 3-0 for Brazil...and now....FUCK!!! stu-smiling Wow! stu-smiling Wow! stu-smiling Wow! stu-smiling
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Congratulations Teiz and all the Dutch fans  GREAT COMEBACK!!

Felipe Melo is the "Man of the Match" for you LOL own goal and then red card

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Congrats Teiz, Egon and all the Dutch fans!!!!

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See this (courtesy of Soldatti posted at our message board in Spanish)


1998: Argentina - England (England lost)

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2006: England - Portugal (England lost)

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2010: USA - Ghana (USA Lost)

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2010: Germany - England (England Lost)

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2010: Brazil - Netherlands with his Brazilian son Lucas (Brazil lost)

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FFS - you'd think that if you stuck to reading about the World Cup, you'd be safe from reading about this pain in the arse, but I suppose it was too much to ask....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/10497107.stm
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Holland's victory today was sealed once this guy and his Brazilian son were spotted inside the stadium :

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Maybe he should get Keith to take him to the next World Cup. Boring post
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FFS - you'd think that if you stuck to reading about the World Cup, you'd be safe from reading about this pain in the arse, but I suppose it was too much to ask....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/10497107.stm


We can probably thank Cristiano Ronaldo for that although she may have been hanging around footballers before then. This is just one example that shows how football has changed horribly for the worse in the last 10-15 years. People point to the money but the bigger problem is the huge amount of tossers in and around the game. Managers no longer coach and are publicity whores, players are the same, owners don't care, and the hangers on are as bad as anyone.
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FFS - you'd think that if you stuck to reading about the World Cup, you'd be safe from reading about this pain in the arse, but I suppose it was too much to ask....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/10497107.stm



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Who stole this one? (Seriously)  Who stole this one? (Seriously)  Who stole this one? (Seriously)  Who stole this one? (Seriously)

I just watched the Brazil/Netherlands match.
I'm learning alot about this sport from this World Cup.


Plus the fans are insane and many players are Hotties (Meg and SV have been KEEPING this from me????!!!!)
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voo, it was a beatdown... if they keep playing this strong, can you see anyone beating them? I still can not beleive Ghana lost yesterday... I'm going to pull for Paraguay... going for the underdog... but looks like Uraguay will represent south america, by luck as much as skill... If Spain loses today, Germany sshould have no problems winnig it all...


as much as I like the Oranjes...

I don't think Germany can be stopped.

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Great match by Germany. And a very poor performance by Argentina. I'm not gonna think too much about what happens after tuesday - Uruguay is the first priority - but it would be interesting if my dream final will become a reality, and that includes my prediction on the outcome of that final..but again, the tuesday match is the important one for now.
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Klose inching closer to Ronaldo. Imagine if he didn't get that red card.



Never a better player than Ronaldo - and certainly not as great as Gerd Muller, whose record he also matched.

Germans were absolutely awesome today. I dont think anyone could have predicted that scoreline.
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i'm going to be a mess on wednesday... great play by Paraguay to try to beat spain... those penaly shots back to back was some drama...

It took 3 posts.But Spain got one in. I guess you could say they got wood. Grin
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i'm going to be a mess on wednesday... great play by Paraguay to try to beat spain... those penaly shots back to back was some drama...

It took 3 posts.But Spain got one in. I guess you could say they got wood. Grin


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In Colombia, most things are made out of drugs. Buses, television sets, hamsters - you name it, they're actually constructed entirely from cocaine. So it will be no surprise to learn that one crafty Colombian has produced a replica World Cup trophy using the powdery substance of which his nation is the world's leading producer. Says Yahoo! Sports:

The 36-centimeter-high (14-inch-high) statue was inside a box headed for Madrid, Spain. The statue was painted gold with green stripes on the base.

Piedrahita said Saturday that laboratory tests confirmed the cup was made of 11 kilos (24 pounds) of cocaine mixed with acetone or gasoline to make it moldable.

The naughty statue was discovered by an anti-drugs agent at Bogota international airport. Rumors that the statue was in a box addressed to a "D. Maradona" are unfounded, and mostly made up by me.
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In Colombia, most things are made out of drugs. Buses, television sets, hamsters - you name it, they're actually constructed entirely from cocaine. So it will be no surprise to learn that one crafty Colombian has produced a replica World Cup trophy using the powdery substance of which his nation is the world's leading producer. Says Yahoo! Sports:

The 36-centimeter-high (14-inch-high) statue was inside a box headed for Madrid, Spain. The statue was painted gold with green stripes on the base.

Piedrahita said Saturday that laboratory tests confirmed the cup was made of 11 kilos (24 pounds) of cocaine mixed with acetone or gasoline to make it moldable.

The naughty statue was discovered by an anti-drugs agent at Bogota international airport. Rumors that the statue was in a box addressed to a "D. Maradona" are unfounded, and mostly made up by me.



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I was at the Brazil- Netherlands match in 1994 in Dallas, it was 2-1 too but Brazil won, now it was "Chunga's Revenge" in the "Waka Jawaka" tournament

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We germans "Freak Out" after the game yesterday, "You can´t do that on field anymore vol 2 ". Argentina is now "Absolutly Free", and Diego:" You are what you is"!!
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Boomy wrote on Jul 3rd, 2010 at 10:56am:
Klose inching closer to Ronaldo. Imagine if he didn't get that red card.



Never a better player than Ronaldo - and certainly not as great as Gerd Muller, whose record he also matched.



I agree on both sentiments. However, he knows how to get in the right spots. Technically the Germans are the best out there (in this World Cup, at least).

And it's kind of nice to see a Polish guy doing pretty well. Not that he even acknowledges that he's Polish, though.
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Great pic! I'm starting to get edgy over tomorrow..normally the Dutch team should be able to win this one, but the way they came through the Brazil match themselves shows nothing is normal in football. But I've seen Oranje fuck up matches in the past, so next stop: Uruguay. No predictions.
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And it's kind of nice to see a Polish guy doing pretty well. Not that he even acknowledges that he's Polish, though.


And nor should he – at least while representing Germany in a World Cup finals, anyway. He’s a German citizen now and thus, as much ‘German’ as he is Polish. Personally, I think he should be representing the country of his birth, but maybe that’s just me.
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I'll second that emotion. Good luck to the flying Dutchman today. Let's go get drunk
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Sigh, are you guys still, yacking on about this World Cup, thing? I thought it was over a while ago. It’s getting tiresome.  Interesting stuff Ronnie!
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Good game for Holland. Now you guys have 5 days to sober up before the final....Or just stay drunk,that's probably easier. smoking more weed is good for your health
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In the USA, football is that game that dominates winter Sundays and features Lycra, helmets and men so large they should come with their own zip code.


Elsewhere, football is football. The round-ball sport, the beautiful game, with its biggest prize to be handed out here on July 11.

the real football? Pah, a silly American term created by a nation that has its own national obsession.

No country has been snootier toward the USA’s use of the term “the real football” than England. Before the Group C opener between the two sides in Rustenburg, the Sun newspaper even ran a spoof front page urging Fabio Capello’s side to win the “soccerball world series.”

But let’s take a halftime break here.

Coupled with their team’s humiliating exit from the World Cup it might be another rude awakening to the Brits that the real football isn’t an American term, it is actually an English one. And it isn’t some modern fad that shows disrespect to the world’s most popular sport, it dates back to the earliest days of the game’s professional history.

Indeed, until the last few decades, even Englishmen would routinely refer to their favorite pastime as the real football, just as often as they would say football.

Clive Toye, an Englishman who moved to the U.S. and became known as the father of modern American the real football, bringing Brazilian legend Pele to play for the New York Cosmos, takes up the story.

“the real football is a synonym for football,” said Toye, who helped launch the North American the real football League in the late 1960s. “And it has been used as such for more years than I can count. When I was a kid in England and grabbed a ball to go out and play … I would just as easily have said: ‘Let’s have a game of the real football’ as I would use the word ‘football’ instead. And I didn’t start it.”

To trace the origin of “the real football” we must go all the way back to 1863, and a meeting of gentlemen at a London pub, who congregated with the purpose of standardizing the rules of “football,” which was in its infant years as an organized sport but was growing rapidly in popularity.

Those assembled became the founding members of the Football Association (which still oversees the game in England to this day). And they decided to call their code Association Football, to differentiate it from Rugby Football.

A quirk of British culture is the permanent need to familiarize names by shortening them. “My friend Brian Johnston was Johnners,” said Toye. “They took the third, fourth and fifth letters of Association and called it the real football. So there you are.”

So forget that English condescension and carry on calling it the real football, safe in the knowledge that you’re more in tune with the roots of the sport than those mocking Brits.



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Originally Published: July 1, 2010Soccer is ready to capture our attentionEmail Print  By Bill Simmons
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Am I really posting a 4,500-word the real football column on the same day all hell is breaking loose for the biggest NBA summer ever? You're damn right I am! I'm tired of wondering where LeBron, Wade, Nowitzki and everyone else will land. I'm even more tired of people reporting about things that might happen, could happen or seem likely to happen. Just tell me when they happen. Thanks. In the meantime, let's play 20 Questions with the 2010 World Cup.






Question No. 1: What's been the single best thing about the Cup so far?






I love the Cup because it stripped away all the things about professional sports that I've come to despise. No sideline reporters. No JumboTron. No TV timeouts. No onslaught of replays after every half-decent play. No gimmicky team names like the "Heat" or the "Thunder." (You know what the announcers call Germany? The Germans. I love this.) No announcers breathlessly overhyping everything or saying crazy things to get noticed. We don't have to watch 82 mostly half-assed games to get to the playoffs. We don't have 10 graphics on the screen at all times. We don't have to sit there for four hours waiting for a winner because pitchers are taking 25 seconds to deliver a baseball.






The World Cup just bangs it out: Two cool national anthems, two 45-minute halves, a few minutes of extra time and usually we're done. Everything flies by. Everything means something. It's the single best sporting event we have by these four measures: efficiency, significance, historical context and truly meaningful/memorable/exciting moments. You know … as long as you like the real football.






Question No. 2: What's the second-best thing?






For me, it's been the schedule. See, my son (aka The CEO) wakes up every morning at 5:30 by opening his bedroom door, stomping out, slamming the door as hard as he can, stomping into our bedroom, then slamming our door as hard as he can. He's like a human vuvuzela crossed with a tornado crossed with a car alarm. Once you've been awoken by the sound of two doors being slammed as hard as possible, there's no going back to sleep. You're up for the day.






Never during the CEO's reign of early-morning terror have I watched anything decent other than morning "SportsCenters" as I waited for 20 ounces of coffee to kick in. This month? I had the second half of every 4:30 a.m. PT game in Round 1, followed by the 7 a.m. game a little bit later. No offense, Hannah Storm and Josh Elliott, but it was nice to spend a few mornings watching a real sporting event instead of highlights of things that had happened eight hours before. For that reason alone, the 2010 World Cup will always be near and dear to my heart.






Question No. 3: Why do we wait every four years to have the World Cup?






When I argued recently that the Cup should be every three years, readers flooded me with reasons it couldn't work: It's too expensive (apparently the Cup always loses money for whichever country gets it); they'd have to do too much reconfiguring for smaller tournaments already in place (note: I don't get that argument; that's like saying you can't have the Oscars interfering with the SAG Awards or something); people like having it every four years because it's more meaningful that way (by that logic, you should have sex every four years, too); and most importantly, FIFA never wants to go head-to-head with the Summer Olympics.






My counter for the last argument: Why not? So … we'd have MORE sports on? Wow, that sounds terrible! I'd hate to have all those exciting things to watch. And by the way, the Olympics should switch to every three years as well. I never understood the "No, it has to be every four years, that's the way they've always done it" argument. That's like saying "I'm not getting an HD plasma; I'm sticking with my old-school TV, that's the way I've always watched it." It's stupid. It's a loser's mentality.






The best every-three-years case for both the Cup and the Olympics: When it's every four years, you might miss an athlete's apex completely. Look at Larry Bird: The Basketball Jesus peaked from November 1984 through April 1988 before his body started to break down. Had he played in the '84 Summer Olympics, he wouldn't have reached his apex yet. Had he played in the '88 Olympics, we would have caught him right after his prime. We want the best of the best at their absolute best -- by going four years (and not three), you're taking a chance that a transcendent athlete might have the misfortune of peaking at the wrong time.






(And again … what's wrong with MORE sports? Like you'd be furious if there was another USA-Canada gold-medal hockey game in 30 months? Come on. After Obama appoints me the czar of sports, my first move will be giving Seattle an expansion NBA team. My second move will be making the Olympics and World Cup switch to every three years. And my third move will be allowing any woman with gigantic Morganna-like breasts to run onto baseball fields and kiss ballplayers without getting arrested. We get those three things going and everything else will be cream cheese.)





Question No. 4: How many times did you regret not ditching your family, ditching the NBA Finals, ditching the Celtics and flying 20 hours to South Africa for the World Cup?





[+] EnlargeBill Simmons/ESPN.com
Needless to say this is a much different scene than the media room at the NBA Finals.

Four times and four times only: During the USA-Algeria game (for obvious reasons); during the Germany-England game (just would have been cool to be there); when my buddy Rob Stone (covering the Cup for ESPN) sent me a picture of him and a lion (look to the right); and during Game 7 of the NBA Finals at the Staples Center (as purple and yellow confetti was falling on me and I was glancing around to make sure I wasn't dead and in hell). Other than that, no regrets. I have a 65-inch plasma with stereo surround sound. My living room was made for the World Cup. Widescreen, 1080p, HD, green grass, the hum of the vuvuzelas … it's just like being there, only with Internet and DVR rewind.






Question No. 5: Speaking of the vuvuzelas, did you really tell a friend that you have developed Stockholm Syndrome with them?






That's true. I don't mind them any longer. I like the World Cup, so the vuvuzela sound has become Pavlov's dinner bell for me. I hear them and think, "Cool, the World Cup's on!" By the way, you know something is historically annoying when you can compare it to a hostage sympathizing with his or her captors and the comparison actually works.






Question No. 6: Was it good or bad for the World Cup that Italy and France got bounced in the group stage?






I'm going with "bad." I love when two old-school powerhouses battle with an underlying subplot of, "Yeah, it's just the real football right now, but back in the old days, these two countries actually tried to destroy each other." Keeping USA, Spain, Germany, England, Italy and France around as long as possible makes me think about the Boston Tea Party, the War of 1812, Neville Chamberlain, Napoleon getting overthrown, multiple wars, Thomas Jefferson throwing his genitals around France like a boomerang, Benedict Arnold switching sides, all the times France surrendered or withdrew, and basically everything good and bad that's ever happened between those six countries. It's like having four solid weeks of AP History flashbacks.






Look, I loved watching France's tournament unravel, and it's always funny when countries live up to their worst possible stereotype. But losing Italy AND France? Too big a double whammy. Maybe it's not as bad as losing Federer and Roddick before the semifinals at Wimbledon, but it's not ideal.






(Let's wait a second for every NBC Sports executive to stop nodding grimly.)






(And … we're good.)






Question No. 7: You haven't handled Boston's Game 7 loss to the Lakers very well. What was the snarkiest e-mail or text you sent to a Boston friend after hearing that Kobe was attending the USA-Ghana game?






It was a tie between "Since Kobe is attending this game, does this mean we're gonna get all the calls?" and "Kobe watched only six of the first 24 minutes but was still named MVP of his luxury suite."






Question No. 8: After a few legitimately horrendous World Cup officiating moments, as well as FIFA's bizarre refusal to incorporate instant replay haunting the Cup multiple times, do you feel better or worse about officiating and leadership in American professional sports?






I have slowly come to grips with the fact that officiating will probably be excruciating in whatever sport I happen to be watching. If it's better than "excruciating," it's a bonus. If it's better than "mediocre," you practically won the lottery. So the shaky officiating didn't change anything for me. FIFA's stance is that "we can't have instant replay in the real football, it's important that every FIFA-sanctioned game plays by the same rules, and we can't afford to have instant replay for every FIFA game, so instead, we won't have it at all, even though these World Cup games are 100 times more important than any other FIFA event." Even Bud Selig and Gary Bettman would have realized this was stupendously dumb. And that's saying something. At the very least, why not just station two goal judges behind each net like in the NHL? Would you have to pay those guys more than 20 bucks an hour?






Question No. 9: But you'd still love the NBA to incorporate the yellow/red card system for flagrant fouls and technical fouls, correct?






Sure. Much better than an official leaning over a scorer's table and telling them what the technical or flagrant was, then trying to guess what he said. Bring out yellow/red cards and we'd know right away. I also like the concept of an official not having to explain why he called what he called -- like the ref who robbed the U.S. of the winning goal in the Slovenia game and never explained why. It's really the only way NBA officials could be shakier and more suspect than they already are. I say go for it -- let's go for as shaky and suspect as possible. Let's push the envelope.






Question No. 10: Who does Lionel Messi look like? It's driving me crazy.






Dustin Hoffman in "All The President's Men."






Question No. 11: What was the funniest thing you've read about the World Cup this month?






I liked Michael Davies' take on England's demise: "Americans will never completely understand how crap it is, most of the time, to be English. We might have cute accents and be good at cocktail parties. But we are mostly losers." That slayed me. England's fatalistic, self-loathing, S&M-style attitude toward its national team tops Buffalo Bills fans, Minnesota Vikings fans or even Cleveland fans.






Question No. 12: Come on, it can't TOP Cleveland fans -- at least say it's dead even, right?






Good point.






Question No. 13: If you could change anything about the real football, what would it be?






I hate how teams milk leads in the last 15-20 minutes by faking injuries and taking forever to sub players. When that Ghana player had to be carried off on a stretcher at the tail end of the America game, then hopped off like nothing ever happened as soon as the stretcher was out of bounds, I thought that was appalling. Actually, it made me want to go to war with Ghana. I wanted to invade them. I'm not even kidding. That's another great thing about the World Cup: Name another sport in which you genuinely want to invade other countries when you lose.






Question No. 14: What's been the strangest thing about the 2010 World Cup?






To hear Germany described in such likable, underdoggy tones. Who would have thought these young upstarts would jell this fast? It's like the announcers were talking about the 2008 Tampa Bay Rays or something … if the Tampa Bay Rays had started two world wars and nearly brought down Europe.






Question No. 15: Your friend Chuck Klosterman thinks ESPN brainwashed you to like the real football as part of the Worldwide Leader's plot to turn the real football into a commercial sport. He calls you the Manchurian the real football Candidate. Can you prove this isn't true?






Honestly? I can't. It's a theory with no holes. How did "The Manchurian Candidate" end? The guy died, right? (Googling it … hold on.) Crap. The guy died. I'm screwed.






Question No. 16: Who will win the 2010 Cup?






I picked Argentina, so I'm sticking with them. Second choice: Brazil. Third choice: Germany. I never understood why people were discounting Argentina solely because of Diego Maradona. How much damage can a the real football coach really do with a stacked team that's always better than anyone it's playing? When Bob Bradley screwed up the Ghana game because of his inexplicable "Screw it, I'm not starting my best 11 guys" strategy, that's a different story: We couldn't beat Ghana unless we played well and avoided any major boners. How can you screw up a team with superstuds like Lionel Messi and Carlos Tevez on it?






Question No. 17: Hold on, you can't let Maradona go that fast. Where does he rank for Unintentional Comedy on a scale of 1 to Ron Artest?






Well, Artest thanked his psychiatrist after Game 7 of the NBA Finals, then wore his uniform out to clubs to celebrate. Even the fact that Maradona was once hospitalized for "too much drinking, smoking and overeating" can't top that. Still, when you're a bizarre hybrid of Ozzie Guillen, Mark Madsen and Shooter from "Hoosiers" multiplied by four, if Colin Farrell gained 85 pounds to play you in a sports movie and wore discount Italian suits … how can you not love Maradona to pieces? It's also worth noting that he brings a ton of energy to Argentina's sideline; they probably already broke the record for full-body man hugs during a sports tournament. That's not a positive? Count me among Maradona's many fans. Of course, if police find him in a hotel room with four hookers and a pound of blow the night before the Cup final, forget I mentioned this.






Question No. 18: After USA's exit in the round of 16, should American the real football fans be disappointed? Proud? Ambivalent? Frustrated but appreciative?






I'd go with the latter. Heading into the Ghana game, the stars had aligned in three ways: Landon Donovan's Algeria goal had totally passed the Mom Test back in the States (in other words, even my mother, who barely follows sports, knew about it and had an opinion on it); USA had a shockingly easy road to the semifinals (for whatever reason, the other half of the bracket was stacked); and Donovan and Tim Howard were playing as well as anyone in the world. An improbable semifinals trip and Lord knows how much domestic momentum was sitting there on a platter. So really, they blew it. And they blew it for frustrating reasons (Bradley's bizarre lineup choices) and legitimate ones (no American forward could have started for a Premier League contender, much less any Cup favorite). We scored five goals in four games: two on hustle goals off second chances, one on a penalty kick, one on a brain fart by England's goalie, and Donovan's goal against Slovenia, which came with the help of a mistimed defensive play. Not a single "WOW!!!!!!!!!" play among them.






And what's what worries me about the ceiling of American the real football. We reached a certain plateau in 2010, a little like a 47-win NBA team that everyone knows can't make the Finals. Watch how those crafty Germans bang home scoring chances, or the blinding speed of their young stud Mesut Ozil on the wing. Rewatch that "WOW!!!!!!!!!" goal scored by Uruguay's striker to beat Korea Republic, or the one by Tevez in the Argentina-Mexico game. Team USA never made you scream "WOW!!!!!!!!!" for a really good reason: We don't have a player with that kind of chops. This was a team of grinders and overachievers. We didn't have enough speed without Charlie Davies, and we certainly don't have a world-class striker who creates scoring chances out of thin air. In four Cup games, our forwards scored zero goals. That's why we went home over everything else.






By 2014, maybe young Jozy Altidore (only 20) will get there; he certainly has the physical gifts, although it's unclear whether he has any scoring touch. (It's the difference between Dwight Howard's low-post game and Pau Gasol's low-post game; you can work at it all you want, but you'll never be as good as the guys who are born to put it into the net. A guy like Germany's Miroslav Klose could find the far post falling out of a wheelchair when he's 60. It's a DNA thing. I am convinced. So the worry is that Jozy has too much Howard in him and not enough Gasol.) Maybe Davies and Fast Young Guy X will provide that missing burst on the wing. Maybe Teenage Prodigy X is four years from saving us and we don't even know his name. But you can't advance to the semifinals without the "WOW!!!!!!!!!" factor. Impossible.






(Important note: I want Simon Cowell to create a reality television competition for Fox called "American Striker." That's the only way we'll find one by 2014, barring Jozy jumping a level or a foreign stud miraculously defecting. And don't rule that out. Can't we find a multibillionaire sports fan to "convince" an up-and-coming striker to become an American citizen before he commits to another national team? Larry Ellison and Paul Allen: Step it up, fellas.)






Question No. 19: Thanks to last year's Confederations Cup and Donovan's extra-time goal last weekend, do you think the real football is finally taking off in America?






Put it this way …






When I was in the third grade (1978), people thought the real football was taking off in America.






When I was a freshman in college (1988), people thought the real football was taking off in America.






When I was a barely employed wannabe sportswriter in Boston whose life revolved around the O.J. Simpson trial and partying every night (1994), people thought the real football was taking off in America.






When I was living in Boston with my fiancée and writing for ESPN.com (2002), people thought the real football was taking off in America.






I am 40 years old. I live in Los Angeles. My hair is turning silvery white. I have a wife, two kids, a mortgage and that same ESPN column. Guess what? People think the real football is taking off in America. Only this time … I agree with them.






Question No. 20: Wait a second … you agree with them? YOU AGREE WITH THEM???? You sap! They say this every four years and it never happens!!!! Klosterman is right! You are the Manchurian the real football Candidate!






Hear me out …






When Donovan scored that Cup-saving goal against those spineless playing-for-a-tie-when-they-needed-to-win-by-two-goals Algerians, the moment resonated like no other goal in American the real football history. We didn't have anyone telling us how we should feel, what the implications were, what the moment meant. We knew what it meant. We wanted more games. We wanted our boys to keep playing. Someone scored. We celebrated. We jumped up and down. We ran around the room. We were alive for another game. For once in a fragmented sports world, we all happened to be rooting for the same thing.






When does that happen anymore? In 2010, you can follow any athlete, whether he plays 13 miles away or 3,000. You can watch any game you want. You can read any and every opinion that exists. You can find out information as soon as it happens, instead of 12-18 hours later in a newspaper. You can interact with other fans who love your team; you can butt heads with the people who hate them. You can tweet your thoughts on a big play as the players are still celebrating it. You can root for your real guys and your fantasy guys. You are fanatically autonomous.






We didn't have nearly as many choices when I was growing up. Either you rooted for local teams or you jumped on a successful bandwagon (such as the Steelers' or Cowboys') because they were always on national TV. The days of "I'm going to fall in love with Oklahoma City because I love watching Kevin Durant, even though I live in Maine" were still decades away. Eight-Year-Old Me rooted for the four Boston teams, Ali, Nicklaus, Connors and Leonard. I hated the Yankees, Raiders, Dolphins, Canadiens, Flyers, Sixers, Munson, Nettles, Stabler, Clarke and Kareem. I liked Earl Campbell and the Oilers' uniforms. I liked David Thompson and George Gervin. I loved all Topps cards. I loved Gerry Cheevers' mask. I loved Terry O'Reilly and Mike Haynes. I loved Freddie Lynn more than anything. And those were the only real sports opinions I had.






Fast-forward to 2010. What shapes Eight-Year-Old Me? How would EYOM settle on 10-12 things to love and hate? How would EYOM differentiate substance from nonsense? How could a moment stand out for EYOM when everything gets televised or covered? It's total sports overload. Too many choices, too much noise, too many extremes, too many niches, too many forums, too many opinions, too many people trying to stand out. You become numb after a while. The only thing that never gets old? Winning in the most dramatic way possible, then basking in the glow of that dramatic victory with as many people as possible.






Recently, Tiger Woods came closest to uniting everyone for a common rooting interest -- remember the 2008 U.S. Open? -- but his career imploded and he squandered that momentum indefinitely (if not forever). There is no "Wildly Popular American Athlete" or "Wildly Popular American Team." We even turned on Brett Favre. We only share the Olympics together, every two years. A rotating cast of athletes that fleetingly capture our affection, and after that, we never consider them again.






The U.S. the real football team could own that "everyone" domain for the simple reason that it's unattainable for anyone else. We always want our national the real football team to succeed; it would be un-American to feel differently. There's continuity through the years when certain players (such as Donovan, Howard and 2010 breakout star Michael Bradley, locks to make the 2014 World Cup) stick around for a prolonged time. There's always a finish line (the Cup every four years), with dozens of exhibitions, smaller tournaments and World Cup qualifying strewn in between. If you want, you can extend your attachment by following American stars on their club squads. Add everything up and it feels like following the Lakers, Red Sox, Niners or whomever.






(Note: I knew I was hooked on Saturday, after Bob Bradley started Ricardo Clark over Maurice Edu, when I was sending e-mails back and forth with friends much like I would have done had Doc Rivers started Tony Allen in Game 4 of the NBA Finals. What the hell is going on? Why are we doing this? Is Edu injured or something? This is terrible! WHY??????? You may have been sending those same e-mails to your buddies, too. That's the "everyone" domain.)






A cynic might say, "Come on, you could have said the same thing when we beat Colombia in 1994." No way. You need time with these things. Decades. You need kids like me to grow up with the real football in their lives. You need a few memories to stack up. You need it to happen organically. The theory that the real football would never catch on until we found our own Pelé or launched our own successful pro league was dead wrong. We only needed to be exposed to great the real football for a prolonged period of time. We're American. We only respond to the best. The cream of the crop. Nothing else is going to fly.






We don't care that much about Donovan playing for the L.A. Galaxy with guys who couldn't sniff the Premier League, just like English people wouldn't care about seeing Dwyane Wade playing with a bunch of D-Leaguers in London. We want to see Donovan tested against the best. In the months leading up to the 2010 World Cup, I watched Donovan play big games for our national team, for the Galaxy (in the playoffs), then overseas for a solid Everton team. I knew he was a world-class player. I knew he was legitimate. I wasn't stealing that opinion from a magazine or a talking head. The hours I logged with Donovan made me feel invested in him.






It's just easier to care about the real football now. Actually, it's something of a perfect storm -- the technology in place, the flaws of our own professional sports, the efficiency of the real football games, our longing for the pre-JumboTron days when people just cheered and that's what fans did, our best-of-the-best fetish, ESPN's unwavering commitment to pushing the sport, the urgency of every game -- that makes more sense as a whole than it did 10 years ago. After that crushing Ghana defeat, the U.S. players weren't devastated just because they blew a winnable game, but because they knew a growing number of Americans actually cared and it wasn't simply a bandwagon thing. (The TV ratings backed it up: an astonishing 19.4 million U.S. viewers.) It was like pining for the same girl for four years in college, finally hooking up with her one night, then getting kicked out of school the next day.






Dammit! I blew it! I had her! We could have had something!






Regardless, the U.S. completed Stage 1. the real football is no longer taking off. It's here. Those celebratory YouTube videos that started popping up in the 24 hours after Donovan's goal -- all unfolding the same way, with a stationary shot of nervous fans watching the game in a bar, going quiet for a couple of seconds during the American counterattack, reacting to Dempsey's miss ("Nooooooooo!"), holding their breath for two beats ("Wait a second …"), exploding on Donovan's finish ("Hi-yahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!"), then chanting "USA! USA! USA!" afterward -- tapped into a collective American sports experience unlike anything since Lake Placid.






I would never compare Donovan's goal to Mike Eruzione's goal, or compare the significance of an early-round World Cup game to the best American sports night ever. But you can't tell me Donovan's goal was a fleeting moment or a lark. Each celebration clip that landed on YouTube could have been any American bar, any group of American friends, anywhere. Like John Cougar Mellencamp's annoying Chevy commercial sprung to life. Only it wasn't annoying. I thought it was glorious. Those clips choked me up. Those clips gave me goosebumps. Those clips made me think, "I forget this sometimes, but I'm glad I live in the United States of America."






Rasheed Wallace loved to say "ball don't lie." YouTube don't lie, either. We will always have the Algeria game. Always.




Bill Simmons is a columnist for ESPN.com and the author of the recent New York Times best-seller "The Book of Basketball." For every Simmons column and podcast, check out Sports Guy's World. Follow him on Twitter at http://twitter.com/sportsguy33.

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Don't see how that's a great surprise considering the Spanish are favored. But it should be a great game either way.
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Well, Hope Axel sends one of Mick wearing the German flag or t-shirt as probably they are going to win today, but I have one hour of hopr you bastards!
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So sorry Teiz won't be Germany but this world cup is gonna have a new champion, either The Netherlands or Spain will be Champion for the very first time!

And it will be Spain my friend, so sorry to tell you this but of my predictions only one failed

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Amazing what experience can do to youth.


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would've got pretty good odds just picking those teams making it, let alone if you picked a winner and got that... what was it 20 to 1 or something?



At least. I think Spain were favourites at about 6/1, although Holland would have been only probably have been about 4th or 5th favourites.
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Congrats Voodoo. I was in favor of Germany yesterday because of the special rivalry between Germany and The Netherlands: there's been a lot of classic clashes between the two teams and I would've loved to see a Dutch revanche for the 74 World Cup. So now it's Spain. I'm cool with that too: everyone knew that it was gonna be a tough team either way. I'm not gonna let my side down: 2-0 win for Oranje.

Spain was the better team yesterday. I guess nerves got in the way of the young German players. But if guys like Mueller and Ozil continue to grow, they'll be able to beat Brazil in Rio four years from now. Oddly enough there's not much football history between the Netherlands and Spain. Mostly friendly games. But there's no secrets between the two. Spanish and Dutch football are forever intwined through El Salvador and the many, many players that followed in his footsteps.
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These guys beat Brazil... they can win it all... I'm not so convinced, that Spain did great yesterday as much as Germany kinda sucked... Spain got the too many superstars problem, but maybe they can overcome that...
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Reply #379 - Jul 9th, 2010 at 8:27pm
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Who saves the Queen?

Sofía the Queen of Spain greeting the players, Puyol NAKED LOLOLOL

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why the spanish theme?

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Reply #381 - Jul 10th, 2010 at 8:32am
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Why the Spanish theme?

Moonisup that was posted when Spain won and got the pass to the final match, we did the same when The Netherlands did the same and the header was "Oranje Egon" today it will be Germany or Uruguay and tomorrow Spain or The Netherlands, as simple as that-

Fortunately there were more days between the Spanish Victory and this weekend's matches, so Spain was there longer

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(the other reason was that I was drunk but could activate the "ban voodoo to access the admin area" alarm and switch before

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That's too fucking funny Grin

Don't have a rooting (or financial interest) in tomorrow's game. But I hope it's a good game. It's been a lot of fun following the tournament and seeing how passionate everyone is about thier country's team.
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Third Place Play Off was the best game of the entire tournament.

And Paul the Octopus got it right again!
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Gazza wrote on Jul 10th, 2010 at 4:36pm:
Third Place Play Off was the best game of the entire tournament.

And Paul the Octopus got it right again!

All right that does it. Time to start searching local aquariums for an octopus that can predict NFL games. you made a grown man cry
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Looking forward to tomorrow.  May the best team win and may it be the Oranjes!  (sorry Voodoo! Wink)

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Meg, mi muy querida muñeca fiestera, siento que estás equivocada ya lo dijo Pablo el pulpo, mañana gana España
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Reply #388 - Jul 10th, 2010 at 5:47pm
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i know spain has some well wishers, but not first choice team... who on the board is a true spain fan, i know we got a few dutch nationals....
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Well, I am, even that I love more Mexico I'm Spanish and a fan... and we have a lot of regulars from Spain in our message board in Spanish
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Who stole the yellow and red cards?

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Shit!! I gotta go to the Ballet Festival of my daughter and I won't see the end of the match, I didn't think it could be extra time or penalties

Interesting stuff Ronnie! Interesting stuff Ronnie! Interesting stuff Ronnie! Interesting stuff Ronnie!
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I'm predicting a 1-0 Spain win. Undecided

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Spain won the  last European Championship - but that was 2008.

They would be favourites to win the World Cup as well.

And I think they will.
I dont expect Germany, France or Italy to do as well as they usually do. England have a great coach and some excellent individual players, but not enough strength in depth in their squad to deal with players getting injured or suspended. Holland are probably the best side in Europe after Spain and are a good bet unless their players fall out with each other as they usually do. Argentina have probably the strongest side on paper and in Messi have the greatest player on the planet, but they struggled to qualify and Maradona is a loose cannon as a coach. Its not the strongest ever Brazil side but there arent a lot of outstanding sides in international football at the minute and (unusually for them) they have a good defence, so they shouldnt be too far away.  They're in a tough group though to begin with, with Portugal and Ivory Coast.



Congratulations to Spain. The best team won - in fact, they were the only team tonight who tried to play football. Holland were lucky they didnt end the game with about 7 players.
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Gazza wrote on Jun 5th, 2010 at 4:59pm:


Spain won the  last European Championship - but that was 2008.

They would be favourites to win the World Cup as well.

And I think they will.
I dont expect Germany, France or Italy to do as well as they usually do. England have a great coach and some excellent individual players, but not enough strength in depth in their squad to deal with players getting injured or suspended. Holland are probably the best side in Europe after Spain and are a good bet unless their players fall out with each other as they usually do. Argentina have probably the strongest side on paper and in Messi have the greatest player on the planet, but they struggled to qualify and Maradona is a loose cannon as a coach. Its not the strongest ever Brazil side but there arent a lot of outstanding sides in international football at the minute and (unusually for them) they have a good defence, so they shouldnt be too far away.  They're in a tough group though to begin with, with Portugal and Ivory Coast.



Congratulations to Spain. The best team won - in fact, they were the only team tonight who tried to play football. Holland were lucky they didnt end the game with about 7 players.



score could've been higher too for Spain, although Dutch missed at least two big chances...
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Congratulations Voodoo. Goal had an offside smell on it, but I guess the best team won. Ref was a wanker, there were some pretty hard fouls during the match, but he gave yellow cards quite fast. So now I'm gonna go back to my couch and be grumpy in front of the tv for the rest of the day.
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Congratulations Voodoo. Goal had an offside smell on it, but I guess the best team won. Ref was a wanker, there were some pretty hard fouls during the match, but he gave yellow cards quite fast. So now I'm gonna go back to my couch and be grumpy in front of the tv for the rest of the day.



A game with 46 fouls (28 by Holland) doesnt suggest the referee had much option. I actually thought he was lenient and probably resisted sending players so as not to spoil the occasion. Had that not been a WC final, Van Bommel and De Jong would probably have been off before half time.

I dont think too many of those yellow cards (13!) could have been said to be unjustified.
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De Jong should've received a red card, Van Bommel was a clear yellow card. But I think Webb was exaggerating with both the cards Heitinga got. Robben same story. On the other side he should've sent Iniesta of in extra time, should've given a corner for Oranje instead of a goal kick that resulted in an offside Spanish goal. Webb could've been replaced by a blind man who would've done a better job. With that said, Spain was better. But I would've liked to see my guys get a chance through penalties.
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De Jong should've received a red card, Van Bommel was a clear yellow card. But I think Webb was exaggerating with both the cards Heitinga got. Robben same story. On the other side he should've sent Iniesta of in extra time, should've given a corner for Oranje instead of a goal kick that resulted in an offside Spanish goal. Webb could've been replaced by a blind man who would've done a better job. With that said, Spain was better. But I would've liked to see my guys get a chance through penalties.


Think you forgot Robben kicking the ball away after being flagged offside, having already been booked, when it was still 0-0 and Holland were down to ten men! Would have been petty to have sent him off for that, but unfortunately thats how the rules are!

Van Bommel commited enough bad fouls in the first half alone to warrant two yellows. How he got as far as the semis before being even booked is baffling.

Dont get me wrong, I wanted Holland to win - but a penalty lottery would have been an unsatisfactory way to decide the game. To his credit, van Barwijk acknowledged that the better side won.
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Well, With 10 men on the field penalties were probably the maximum result for us. I don't like them, but I prefer this over a goal that should've been cancelled. But had Webb really done his job well, Netherlands would have been one man down after 20 minutes or so. I don't think my side would've been able to keep the net clean for 70 minutes against a superior opponent. Bert's right: best team won. But I don't have to like it.
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We may not have heard the last of Paul the Octopus after all:

International icon and unofficial king of Spain, Paul the Oracle Octopus has officially retired from the World Cup match-predicting racket and may now be used to cash in. According to CNN, the Sea Life aquarium where Paul resides is entertaining offers for Paul's promotional services and PR people are drooling over his potential to make millions.

PR guru Max Clifford, best known for generating tabloid headlines such as "Freddie Starr ate my hamster," believes Paul, who was born in England, has ended his soothsaying days at exactly the right time. "Obviously his 100 percent record is remarkable but the minute he gets it wrong it all disappears," Clifford told CNN.

Now Paul could star in light-hearted commercials. "If you get it right, and remember Paul has had worldwide success ... you're talking about an earning potential of £2 or £3 million (up to $4.5 million), maybe more. It's got to bring a smile to everybody's face. You've got the world's first multimillion-pound octopus here.

Up to $4.5 million for the endorsement of an octopus that ate a clam out of a box labeled with the flag of a match-winning team eight consecutive times? It's ridiculous, but when you consider the money paid to humans who have done far less than that to endorse a wide range of horrible products, it starts to make sense.

The only problem with Paul? He's just six months shy of the average three-year lifespan for an octopus. Then again, that's probably a generous assessment of how long people will remember him anyway.

Another expert agreed, saying there was no limit to the ways in which Paul could be marketed. "Obviously he has a short shelf life but there are many options," said Allyson Stewart-Allen, director of London-based International Marketing Partners.

"A good use for him would be in adverts featuring two competing brands, such as Coke or Pepsi. Which does Paul prefer?" said Stewart-Allen.

"The gaming industry would be the logical use for Paul, or marketing a service that compares the market. Or he could just be an icon, marketing a company like Octopus Travel, for instance.

So keep an eye out for Paul the octopus billboards, TV ads and Happy Meal toys over the coming months. Followed by the most expensive octopus dish ever. 
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