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Reply #75 - May 23rd, 2010 at 7:13pm
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Pdog wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 6:20pm:
they need to toss BP oil exec's into the gulf.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFJsalckElo  really?
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Reply #76 - May 23rd, 2010 at 7:50pm
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Edith Grove wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 7:13pm:
Pdog wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 6:20pm:
they need to toss BP oil exec's into the gulf.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFJsalckElo  really?



He's pandering to his audience. Completely unproductive.

All of you gulf coasters, continuously seek info on blogs regarding the byproducts of this disaster.
I guarantee you, there are serious health concerns just from breathing the air.
Major media will not breach the subject.
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Reply #77 - May 23rd, 2010 at 8:07pm
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fuman wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 7:50pm:
All of you gulf coasters, continuously seek info on blogs regarding the byproducts of this disaster.
I guarantee you, there are serious health concerns just from breathing the air.


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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Reply #78 - May 23rd, 2010 at 8:15pm
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Edith Grove wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 8:07pm:
fuman wrote on May 23rd, 2010 at 7:50pm:
All of you gulf coasters, continuously seek info on blogs regarding the byproducts of this disaster.
I guarantee you, there are serious health concerns just from breathing the air.


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Fair enough, but I promise you that the levels of Benzene in gulf coast areas local to this oil spill are about to go thru the roof.
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Reply #79 - May 24th, 2010 at 9:30am
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I found this post and it is fucked if true, they are saying the video we can see is on a loop and the sea floor has collapsed-

It is of course BP's fault, but that point becomes moot when the truth is, nobody can stop this....and most probably nobody will. Basically, BP opened an undersea volcano, and who knows how long it will keep spewing, and what will be left when it is finished. What has been unleashed here is is a catastrophe who's scope is simply beyond our comprehension.




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"  ...  the levels of Benzene in gulf coast areas local
to this oil spill are about to go thru the roof.  "

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Reply #81 - May 24th, 2010 at 9:44am
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this whole situation is truly terrifying... and it's obvious no one has a clue what to do
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Reply #82 - May 24th, 2010 at 9:44am
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"  ...  the levels of Benzene in gulf coast areas local
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" this whole situation is truly terrifying... and it's obvious no one has a clue what to do "

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Reply #84 - May 24th, 2010 at 12:18pm
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jet geyser- man unable to stop?

bp execs are shitting their collective pants
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Reply #85 - May 24th, 2010 at 12:30pm
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I have yet to hear how humans can drill a well a mile below sea-surface, and another 4-5 miles into the Earth, and not be able to cap it off when something like this happens.  piss off
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Reply #86 - May 24th, 2010 at 12:44pm
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Benzene has been proven to cause leukemia.  I'm pissed off.    That dawndetergent commerical is pissing me off too.
Turtles and dolphins and shrimp and crabs and herons and ..................what the #@*($&)(@#&$()*@#$&
BP AND HALLIBURTON MUST DIE
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Reply #87 - May 24th, 2010 at 12:51pm
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Hurricane vs. Oil Slick
What would happen if a tropical storm hit the oil floating in the Gulf?
By Chris Mooney
Posted Friday, May 21, 2010, at 5:24 PM ET

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Gulf oil spill

BP claims to be capturing 5,000 barrels of oil a day from the leaking well at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico, but more continues to gush into the water. Meanwhile, the annual hurricane season begins on June 1, and some scientists are predicting an above-average year with 15 named storms and eight hurricanes. It sounds like a deadly combination—but what would actually happen if a storm like Katrina tracked across the spill in the Gulf?

It could make things even worse. At least one forecast team puts the chance of a strong hurricane hammering some part of the Gulf Coast this year at 44 percent, and any such storm would threaten to disrupt ongoing containment or environmental protection measures. In an absolute worst-case scenario, powerful hurricane winds might drive the oil slick towards land and push some of it ashore with the ensuing storm surge.

Much depends on the angle at which the storm crosses the slick. In the Northern Hemisphere, hurricanes rotate counterclockwise, with the largest storm surge occurring where the winds blow in the direction the storm as a whole is traveling—that's in front of the eye and off to the right. (Meteorologists worry over a hurricane's dangerous "right-front quadrant." So if a powerful storm approached the slick from the southwest, say, its most potent winds would push the oil forward, instead of sweeping it off to the side and out of the storm's path. If the storm then plowed into the Gulf Coast, you'd expect an oily landfall.

The strength, movement, and size of the storm would also make a difference. Fortunately, the height of the Atlantic hurricane season, featuring the strongest storms, doesn't arrive until August. We might reasonably hope to have cleaned up the oil by that point.

So the storm could move the slick. Could the slick affect the storm? Hurricanes draw their energy from the evaporation of warm seawater—that's why they occur over the summer and into the fall. Given that fact, you might think that oil on the surface of the ocean would interfere with a hurricane's access to its power source. Indeed, some have proposed to combat hurricanes by coating the ocean surface with an oily substance (not crude oil, of course) in order to reduce evaporation and quench a storm's strength.

Alas, this scheme probably wouldn't work, nor should we expect the oil spill to slow down any hurricanes very much this season. The first problem is that most hurricanes span an enormous area of the ocean. According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the typical storm is 300 miles wide, dwarfing even this large spill. Even if a hurricane passed directly over the slick, the oil would cover just a fraction of the relevant sea surface.

What's more, by the time winds reach hurricane force (greater than 74 mph), they cause so much ocean mixing that any oil slick on the surface would be driven down into the depths and generally broken up. MIT hurricane expert Kerry Emanuel has tested the phenomenon on a small scale using an enclosed tank, half filled with water, with an air rotor at the top capable of generating hurricane force winds. When the rotor turned at high speeds, the surface of the water was torn apart, and the scientists observed no difference in the amount of evaporation that occurred with or without an oily surface film.

It's even possible that an oil slick could make a powerful hurricane a little stronger. Oil is darker than water, and so it absorbs more sunlight while also blocking evaporation from the sea surface. That means the spill could be trapping heat in one part of the ocean. If a storm passed over and churned up the surface of the water, that potential hurricane energy might then be released.

There is a small silver lining here: A hurricane of sufficient force might cause enough ocean mixing to help disperse and "weather" the oil slick, which could in turn speed up the process of biodegradation.

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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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By Juliet Eilperin
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Monday, May 24, 2010; 11:47 AM

The federal agency responsible for regulating offshore oil drilling repeatedly ignored warnings from government scientists about environmental risks in its push to approve energy exploration activities quickly, according to numerous documents and interviews.

*************Minerals Management Service officials, who receive cash bonuses for meeting federal deadlines on leasing offshore oil and gas exploration************!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   , frequently altered their own documents and bypassed legal requirements aimed at ensuring drilling does not imperil the marine environment, the documents show.

This has dramatically weakened the scientific checks on offshore drilling that were established under landmark laws such as the Marine Mammal Protection Act and the National Environmental Policy Act, according to those who have worked with MMS, which is part of the Interior Department.

"It's a war between the biologists and the engineers," said Thomas A. Campbell, who served as the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's general counsel under George H.W. Bush.


"They just have a very different worldview, and sometimes the engineers simply don't listen to the biologists."

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HELLO!! !WE ALREADY KNEW THAT.  BIOLOGISTS MUST RISE UP AND DEFEAT THE ENEMY!!!!
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Reply #89 - May 24th, 2010 at 2:15pm
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The Obummer Admin is doing bang up job! Imagine if it had Bush in office when this happened?! I mean even that little liberal freak Bill Mahr admits that the media is giving Obummer a free pass. No doubt that they don't want to remind the public that they were too busy blowing him while ignoring all the known facts about his far left ideology. Too bad there were so many uninformed voters that were conned by this fuckstick.


Oh, and guess who Obama's largest contributor was?! You guessed it! BP!!



"While the BP oil geyser pumps millions of gallons of petroleum into the Gulf of Mexico, President Barack Obama and members of Congress may have to answer for the millions in campaign contributions they’ve taken from the oil and gas giant over the years.


BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Donations come from a mix of employees and the company’s political action committees — $2.89 million flowed to campaigns from BP-related PACs and about $638,000 came from individuals."



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This fucking Marxist hack is a goddmaned disaster!


Great job, Obummer!



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Reply #90 - May 24th, 2010 at 2:21pm
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Maybe they can shove Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck into the hole.
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Reply #91 - May 24th, 2010 at 2:23pm
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" Maybe they can shove Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck into the hole.  "

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Reply #92 - May 24th, 2010 at 2:23pm
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Obama caused the oil spill??

There may not be an answer to this.

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Reply #93 - May 24th, 2010 at 2:26pm
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Riffhard wrote on May 24th, 2010 at 2:15pm:
The Obummer Admin is doing bang up job! Imagine if it had Bush in office when this happened?! I mean even that little liberal freak Bill Mahr admits that the media is giving Obummer a free pass. No doubt that they don't want to remind the public that they were too busy blowing him while ignoring all the known facts about his far left ideology. Too bad there were so many uninformed voters that were conned by this fuckstick.


Oh, and guess who Obama's largest contributor was?! You guessed it! BP!!



"While the BP oil geyser pumps millions of gallons of petroleum into the Gulf of Mexico, President Barack Obama and members of Congress may have to answer for the millions in campaign contributions they’ve taken from the oil and gas giant over the years.


BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Donations come from a mix of employees and the company’s political action committees — $2.89 million flowed to campaigns from BP-related PACs and about $638,000 came from individuals."



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This fucking Marxist hack is a goddmaned disaster!


Great job, Obummer!



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thanks for the breaking news that energy companies have bought and sold governement policy... we would be fucking clueless without you telling us that.
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Reply #94 - May 24th, 2010 at 2:33pm
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If they had been successful with this rig, gas would have been below a buck a gallon. There is the largest amount of oil ever discovered by man there. Sadly, it can't be stopped now. According to a friend
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Reply #95 - May 24th, 2010 at 2:40pm
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Pdog wrote on May 24th, 2010 at 2:26pm:
Riffhard wrote on May 24th, 2010 at 2:15pm:
The Obummer Admin is doing bang up job! Imagine if it had Bush in office when this happened?! I mean even that little liberal freak Bill Mahr admits that the media is giving Obummer a free pass. No doubt that they don't want to remind the public that they were too busy blowing him while ignoring all the known facts about his far left ideology. Too bad there were so many uninformed voters that were conned by this fuckstick.


Oh, and guess who Obama's largest contributor was?! You guessed it! BP!!



"While the BP oil geyser pumps millions of gallons of petroleum into the Gulf of Mexico, President Barack Obama and members of Congress may have to answer for the millions in campaign contributions they’ve taken from the oil and gas giant over the years.


BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Donations come from a mix of employees and the company’s political action committees — $2.89 million flowed to campaigns from BP-related PACs and about $638,000 came from individuals."



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html#ixzz0osM6cw9i



This fucking Marxist hack is a goddmaned disaster!


Great job, Obummer!



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thanks for the breaking news that energy companies have bought and sold governement policy... we would be fucking clueless without you telling us that.



You're quite welcome, Pdog!!


Now what's your take on Obummer and Co. completely punting any responsibilty on the clean up process? Do you think that had it been Bush you would forgive him for being MIA for over a month? While we're at it, what do you think about Obummer and Co. violating federal law by offering Joe Sestak a job in order to keep him from running for the Senate?


Face it, I was right, and you and whole slew of other drones were wrong! Big time wrong!

Ya can't say I didn't warn you. Obummer is the worst president in US history, and that includes James Buccanhan and Jimma Carter!


And then there's this......

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 25% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-three percent (43%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -18"


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Health care? LOL!

"Following passage of health care, enthusiasm for the president among Democrats soared. Today, however, just 49% of Democrats Strongly Approve of Obama’s performance. That’s down from a high of 65%. It remains to be seen whether this is a temporary aberration or the beginning of a lasting change.

Sixty-three percent (63%) of voters nationwide favor repeal of the health care law. That’s the highest level of support for repeal yet measured."


Hope and change? Hardly!!


" Most Americans have “come to believe that the political system is broken, that most politicians are corrupt, and that neither major political party has the answers,” observes Scott Rasmussen. Forty-one percent (41%) of voters say that a group of people randomly selected from the phone book would do a better job than the current Congress."



He sucks, and you drones voted for his Marxist ass! You own this moron!



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Reply #96 - May 24th, 2010 at 2:44pm
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Well the peace without political bullshit was nice while it lasted. Shut the fuck up now So long sucker Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?
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I am very unhappy with the attention that the Obama Admin is giving this disaster too.
Not sure how much they can do without "owning" the result though.
It's a thousand times worse than they are letting on.

Oil consumption has been negotiated for all developed nations (who gets what), for the coming decades.
If the US was to move to another source for our energy needs,
China would instantly get access to more oil, which is cheaper and thus their economy would skyrocket.
So I don't see us cutting back on our own consumption anytime soon . . .

But we really have to start talking about nuclear energy.
A disaster would be worse for sure, but the energy is cleaner.
Of course, the Dems will have to go it alone, with the current bat shit insane R's in Congress opposing everything.
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Blame Obama first policy in full effect here.
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Reply #99 - May 24th, 2010 at 3:03pm
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Blame Obama first policy in full effect here.

Not in my book, however, h'es not making easy to think his admin are on the job, by allowing
BP to dictate when progress is being made.

Everything humanly possible should be placed in full battle mode
now to handle this.  If the US can go to the moon they should be able
to go 5K @ the bottom of the ocean to repair this leak now, not later.
35 days is completely unacceptable.
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