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Re: OT - Gulf Coast Disaster
Reply #600 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:26am
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Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:01am:
I see Hope & Change coming right around the corner.

the impeachment drums are beating loud

Sadly, I was referring to the fact that the Observer In Chief & family is bringing
his oil slick to our state for an 11 day vacation.  Bush, Clinton now O always choose
Maine or Mass.  Don't they know there are 48 other states (or 52 as someone once said)
to bring their circus to?
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Reply #601 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:31am
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Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:26am:
Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:01am:
I see Hope & Change coming right around the corner.

the impeachment drums are beating loud

Sadly, I was referring to the fact that the Observer In Chief & family is bringing
his oil slick to our state for an 11 day vacation.  Bush, Clinton now O always choose
Maine or Mass.  Don't they know there are 48 other states (or 52 as someone once said)
to bring their circus to?

it's coming hard and deep
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Reply #602 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:47am
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Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:26am:
Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:01am:
I see Hope & Change coming right around the corner.

the impeachment drums are beating loud

Sadly, I was referring to the fact that the Observer In Chief & family is bringing
his oil slick to our state for an 11 day vacation.  Bush, Clinton now O always choose
Maine or Mass.  Don't they know there are 48 other states (or 52 as someone once said)
to bring their circus to?


you think it is a fact, he created the oil slick? and is causing pollution. there is a reason why they go there, the security and logistic for a presidfent to be there are in place...  if you'd like, we spend alot of money to set up airports, intel and safety networks so he can somewhere else, then you can complain about how mucgh he spent, like when he went to a show in NYC...
anything you don't get a saggy leaky diaper over?
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Reply #603 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:48am
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Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:31am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:26am:
Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:01am:
I see Hope & Change coming right around the corner.

the impeachment drums are beating loud

Sadly, I was referring to the fact that the Observer In Chief & family is bringing
his oil slick to our state for an 11 day vacation.  Bush, Clinton now O always choose
Maine or Mass.  Don't they know there are 48 other states (or 52 as someone once said)
to bring their circus to?

it's coming hard and deep


this never scares me, just gets me horny!
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Re: OT - Gulf Coast Disaster
Reply #604 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 9:31am
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Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:26am:
Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:01am:
I see Hope & Change coming right around the corner.

the impeachment drums are beating loud

Sadly, I was referring to the fact that the Observer In Chief & family is bringing
his oil slick to our state for an 11 day vacation.  Bush, Clinton now O always choose
Maine or Mass.  Don't they know there are 48 other states (or 52 as someone once said)
to bring their circus to?

Would you rather have BP drill a new oil well on Martha's Vineyard?
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Re: OT - Gulf Coast Disaster
Reply #605 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 10:29am
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Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:47am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:26am:
Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:01am:
I see Hope & Change coming right around the corner.

the impeachment drums are beating loud

Sadly, I was referring to the fact that the Observer In Chief & family is bringing
his oil slick to our state for an 11 day vacation.  Bush, Clinton now O always choose
Maine or Mass.  Don't they know there are 48 other states (or 52 as someone once said)
to bring their circus to?


you think it is a fact, he created the oil slick? and is causing pollution. there is a reason why they go there, the security and logistic for a presidfent to be there are in place...  if you'd like, we spend alot of money to set up airports, intel and safety networks so he can somewhere else, then you can complain about how mucgh he spent, like when he went to a show in NYC...
anything you don't get a saggy leaky diaper over?
...

Meds?
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Re: OT - Gulf Coast Disaster
Reply #606 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 10:31am
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 9:31am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:26am:
Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:01am:
I see Hope & Change coming right around the corner.

the impeachment drums are beating loud

Sadly, I was referring to the fact that the Observer In Chief & family is bringing
his oil slick to our state for an 11 day vacation.  Bush, Clinton now O always choose
Maine or Mass.  Don't they know there are 48 other states (or 52 as someone once said)
to bring their circus to?

Would you rather have BP drill a new oil well on Martha's Vineyard?

No, as there is no oil here.
Took over a decade to get approval for a wind farm.
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Re: OT - Gulf Coast Disaster
Reply #607 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 11:16am
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Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 10:29am:
Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:47am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:26am:
Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:01am:
I see Hope & Change coming right around the corner.

the impeachment drums are beating loud

Sadly, I was referring to the fact that the Observer In Chief & family is bringing
his oil slick to our state for an 11 day vacation.  Bush, Clinton now O always choose
Maine or Mass.  Don't they know there are 48 other states (or 52 as someone once said)
to bring their circus to?


you think it is a fact, he created the oil slick? and is causing pollution. there is a reason why they go there, the security and logistic for a presidfent to be there are in place...  if you'd like, we spend alot of money to set up airports, intel and safety networks so he can somewhere else, then you can complain about how mucgh he spent, like when he went to a show in NYC...
anything you don't get a saggy leaky diaper over?
...

Meds?



nice reply... i won't grace you with a return personal insult... at least you're not offensive like some people.
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Re: OT - Gulf Coast Disaster
Reply #608 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 11:29am
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Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 11:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 10:29am:
Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:47am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:26am:
Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:01am:
I see Hope & Change coming right around the corner.

the impeachment drums are beating loud

Sadly, I was referring to the fact that the Observer In Chief & family is bringing
his oil slick to our state for an 11 day vacation.  Bush, Clinton now O always choose
Maine or Mass.  Don't they know there are 48 other states (or 52 as someone once said)
to bring their circus to?


you think it is a fact, he created the oil slick? and is causing pollution. there is a reason why they go there, the security and logistic for a presidfent to be there are in place...  if you'd like, we spend alot of money to set up airports, intel and safety networks so he can somewhere else, then you can complain about how mucgh he spent, like when he went to a show in NYC...
anything you don't get a saggy leaky diaper over?
...

Meds?



nice reply... i won't grace you with a return personal insult... at least you're not offensive like some people.

Say what you want, it's all good for a laugh!
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Re: OT - Gulf Coast Disaster
Reply #609 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 1:03pm
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Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 11:29am:
Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 11:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 10:29am:
Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:47am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:26am:
Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:01am:
I see Hope & Change coming right around the corner.

the impeachment drums are beating loud

Sadly, I was referring to the fact that the Observer In Chief & family is bringing
his oil slick to our state for an 11 day vacation.  Bush, Clinton now O always choose
Maine or Mass.  Don't they know there are 48 other states (or 52 as someone once said)
to bring their circus to?


you think it is a fact, he created the oil slick? and is causing pollution. there is a reason why they go there, the security and logistic for a presidfent to be there are in place...  if you'd like, we spend alot of money to set up airports, intel and safety networks so he can somewhere else, then you can complain about how mucgh he spent, like when he went to a show in NYC...
anything you don't get a saggy leaky diaper over?
...

Meds?



nice reply... i won't grace you with a return personal insult... at least you're not offensive like some people.

Say what you want, it's all good for a laugh!


thanks for the permission to speak what I choose, I was holding myself back...
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Reply #610 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 2:09pm
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Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 1:03pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 11:29am:
Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 11:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 10:29am:
Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:47am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:26am:
Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:01am:
I see Hope & Change coming right around the corner.

the impeachment drums are beating loud

Sadly, I was referring to the fact that the Observer In Chief & family is bringing
his oil slick to our state for an 11 day vacation.  Bush, Clinton now O always choose
Maine or Mass.  Don't they know there are 48 other states (or 52 as someone once said)
to bring their circus to?


you think it is a fact, he created the oil slick? and is causing pollution. there is a reason why they go there, the security and logistic for a presidfent to be there are in place...  if you'd like, we spend alot of money to set up airports, intel and safety networks so he can somewhere else, then you can complain about how mucgh he spent, like when he went to a show in NYC...
anything you don't get a saggy leaky diaper over?
...

Meds?



nice reply... i won't grace you with a return personal insult... at least you're not offensive like some people.

Say what you want, it's all good for a laugh!


thanks for the permission to speak what I choose, I was holding myself back...

Just encouragement, not permission.
Thanks for placing me in such a lofty position.
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Re: OT - Gulf Coast Disaster
Reply #611 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 3:34pm
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By COLLEEN LONG and HARRY R. WEBER, Associated Press Writers Colleen Long And Harry R. Weber, Associated Press Writers – 22 mins ago
NEW ORLEANS – A tightly fitted cap was successfully keeping oil from gushing into the Gulf of Mexico for the first time in three months, BP said Thursday. The victory — long awaited by weary residents along the coast — is the most significant milestone yet in BP's effort to control one of the worst environmental disasters in U.S. history.

Kent Wells, a BP PLC vice president, said at a news briefing that oil stopped flowing into the water at 2:25 p.m. CDT after engineers gradually dialed down the amount of crude escaping through the last of three valves in the 75-ton cap.

"I am very pleased that there's no oil going into the Gulf of Mexico. In fact, I'm really excited there's no oil going into the Gulf of Mexico," Wells said.

The stoppage came 85 days, 16 hours and 25 minutes after the first report April 20 of an explosion on the Deepwater Horizon oil rig that killed 11 workers and triggered the spill.

Now begins a waiting period to see if the cap can hold the oil without blowing a new leak in the well. Engineers will monitor pressure readings incrementally for up to 48 hours before reopening the cap while they decide what to do.

Though not a permanent fix, the solution has been the only one that has worked to stem the flow of oil since April. BP is drilling two relief wells so it can pump mud and cement into the leaking well in hopes of plugging it for good by mid-August.

BP has struggled to contain the spill and had so far been successful only in reducing the flow, not stopping it. The company removed an old, leaky cap and installed the new one Monday.

Between 93.5 million and 184.3 million have already spilled into the Gulf, according to federal estimates.
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Reply #612 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 5:37pm
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Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 2:09pm:
Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 1:03pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 11:29am:
Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 11:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 10:29am:
Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:47am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:26am:
Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:01am:
I see Hope & Change coming right around the corner.

the impeachment drums are beating loud

Sadly, I was referring to the fact that the Observer In Chief & family is bringing
his oil slick to our state for an 11 day vacation.  Bush, Clinton now O always choose
Maine or Mass.  Don't they know there are 48 other states (or 52 as someone once said)
to bring their circus to?


you think it is a fact, he created the oil slick? and is causing pollution. there is a reason why they go there, the security and logistic for a presidfent to be there are in place...  if you'd like, we spend alot of money to set up airports, intel and safety networks so he can somewhere else, then you can complain about how mucgh he spent, like when he went to a show in NYC...
anything you don't get a saggy leaky diaper over?
...

Meds?



nice reply... i won't grace you with a return personal insult... at least you're not offensive like some people.

Say what you want, it's all good for a laugh!


thanks for the permission to speak what I choose, I was holding myself back...

Just encouragement, not permission.
Thanks for placing me in such a lofty position.



but sir, you put yourself in the position, twas not I.
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Reply #613 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 5:39pm
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 3:34pm:
By COLLEEN LONG and HARRY R. WEBER, Associated Press Writers Colleen Long And Harry R. Weber, Associated Press Writers – 22 mins ago
NEW ORLEANS – A tightly fitted cap was successfully keeping oil from gushing into the Gulf of Mexico for the first time in three months, BP said Thursday. The victory — long awaited by weary residents along the coast — is the most significant milestone yet in BP's effort to control one of the worst environmental disasters in U.S. history.

Kent Wells, a BP PLC vice president, said at a news briefing that oil stopped flowing into the water at 2:25 p.m. CDT after engineers gradually dialed down the amount of crude escaping through the last of three valves in the 75-ton cap.

"I am very pleased that there's no oil going into the Gulf of Mexico. In fact, I'm really excited there's no oil going into the Gulf of Mexico," Wells said.

The stoppage came 85 days, 16 hours and 25 minutes after the first report April 20 of an explosion on the Deepwater Horizon oil rig that killed 11 workers and triggered the spill.

Now begins a waiting period to see if the cap can hold the oil without blowing a new leak in the well. Engineers will monitor pressure readings incrementally for up to 48 hours before reopening the cap while they decide what to do.

Though not a permanent fix, the solution has been the only one that has worked to stem the flow of oil since April. BP is drilling two relief wells so it can pump mud and cement into the leaking well in hopes of plugging it for good by mid-August.

BP has struggled to contain the spill and had so far been successful only in reducing the flow, not stopping it. The company removed an old, leaky cap and installed the new one Monday.

Between 93.5 million and 184.3 million have already spilled into the Gulf, according to federal estimates.


I'm crossing my fingers hoping it works and crossing my legs as a personal blowout preventer!
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Reply #614 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 5:45pm
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well allright! lot of oil up in that mug, gas should be a buck a gallon. Abiotic oil reserve!
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Reply #615 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 6:09pm
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Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 5:45pm:
well allright! lot of oil up in that mug, gas should be a buck a gallon. Abiotic oil reserve!


only cost me 2.68 gal. to buy super premium, when I left SF 2 years ago it was just under $5.00 a gal for reg.

if i knew we were taxing it in a way, to not only put every possible effort into safety and researching alternative, I would be more than willing to pay those costs again. Especially knowing, all those profits go to mid-east govts and multi-national companies that avoid paying taxes through offshore companies and some of the lowest forms of humanity western civilazation has ever produced.
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Reply #616 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 6:19pm
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Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 5:45pm:
well allright! lot of oil up in that mug, gas should be a buck a gallon. Abiotic oil reserve!

If they really wanted some good pr,BP would put a huge discount on gas in the gulf states. Hell give those people free gas. After the hell they're going through,they could'nt do enough for them.
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Reply #617 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 6:30pm
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Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 5:45pm:
well allright! lot of oil up in that mug, gas should be a buck a gallon. Abiotic oil reserve!

If they really wanted some good pr,BP would put a huge discount on gas in the gulf states. Hell give those people free gas. After the hell they're going through,they could'nt do enough for them.


I'd be happy with just the chance of putting my foot up Tony Hayward's little bitch ass.  What the fuck?
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Reply #618 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 6:44pm
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well allright! lot of oil up in that mug, gas should be a buck a gallon. Abiotic oil reserve!

If they really wanted some good pr,BP would put a huge discount on gas in the gulf states. Hell give those people free gas. After the hell they're going through,they could'nt do enough for them.


I'd be happy with just the chance of putting my foot up Tony Hayward's little bitch ass.  What the fuck?


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Reply #619 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 6:53pm
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Edith Grove wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 6:30pm:
sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 6:19pm:
Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 5:45pm:
well allright! lot of oil up in that mug, gas should be a buck a gallon. Abiotic oil reserve!

If they really wanted some good pr,BP would put a huge discount on gas in the gulf states. Hell give those people free gas. After the hell they're going through,they could'nt do enough for them.


I'd be happy with just the chance of putting my foot up Tony Hayward's little bitch ass.  What the fuck?



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http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-461896


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This story was broke hear already, and is making its way into the media...

Scientists Warn Gulf Of Mexico Sea Floor Fractured Beyond Repair Video confirms it
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A dire report circulating in the Kremlin today that was prepared for Prime Minister Putin by Anatoly Sagalevich of Russia's Shirshov Institute of Oceanology warns that the Gulf of Mexico sea floor has been fractured “beyond all repair” and our World should begin preparing for an ecological disaster “beyond comprehension” unless “extraordinary measures” are undertaken to stop the massive flow of oil into our Planet’s eleventh largest body of water.
Most important to note about Sagalevich’s warning is that he and his fellow scientists from theRussian Academy of Sciences are the only human beings to have actually been to the Gulf of Mexico oil leak site after their being called to the disaster scene by British oil giant BP shortly after the April 22nd sinking of the Deepwater Horizon oil platform.
BP’s calling on Sagalevich after this catastrophe began is due to his being the holder of the World’s record for the deepest freshwater dive and his expertise with Russia’s two Deep Submergence Vehicles MIR 1 and MIR 2 [photo below] which are able to take their crews to the depth of 6,000 meters (19,685 ft).

According to Sagalevich’s report, the oil leaking into the Gulf of Mexico is not just coming from the 22 inch well bore site being shown on American television, but from at least 18 other sites on the “fractured seafloor” with the largest being nearly 11 kilometers (7 miles) from where the Deepwater Horizon sank and is spewing into these precious waters an estimated 2 million gallons of oil a day.
Interesting to note in this report is Sagalevich stating that he and the other Russian scientists were required by the United States to sign documents forbidding them to report their findings to either the American public or media, and which they had to do in order to legally operate in US territorial waters.
However, Sagalevich says that he and the other scientists gave nearly hourly updates to both US government and BP officials about what they were seeing on the sea floor, including the US Senator from their State of Florida Bill Nelson who after one such briefing stated to the MSNBC news service“Andrea we’re looking into something new right now, that there’s reports of oil that’s seeping up from the seabed… which would indicate, if that’s true, that the well casing itself is actually pierced… underneath the seabed. So, you know, the problems could be just enormous with what we’re facing.”
Though not directly stated in Sagalevich’s report, Russian scientists findings on the true state of the Gulf of Mexico oil disaster are beyond doubt being leaked to his longtime friend, and former US President George W. Bush’s top energy advisor Matthew Simmons, who US media reports state has openly said: “Matthew Simmons is sticking by his story that there's another giant leak in the Gulf of Mexico blowing massive amounts of oil into the Gulf of Mexico. On CNBC's Fast Money, he says he'd be surprised if BP lasted this summer, saying this is disaster is entirely BP's fault.”
As a prominent oil-industry insider, and one of the World's leading experts on peak oil, Simmons further warns that the US has only two options, “let the well run dry (taking 30 years, and probably ruining the Atlantic ocean) or nuking the well.”
Obama’s government, on the other hand, has stated that a nuclear option for ending this catastrophe is not being discussed, but which brings him into conflict with both Russian and American experts advocating such an extreme measure before all is lost, and as we can read as reported by Britain’s Telegraph News Service:
“The former Soviet Union (U.S.S.R.) used nuclear weapons on five separate occasions between 1966 and 1981 to successfully cap blown-out gas and oil surface wells (there was also one attempt that failed), which have been documented in a U.S. Department of Energy report on the U.S.S.R.'s peaceful uses of nuclear explosions.
Russia is now urging the United States to consider doing the same. Komsomoloskaya Pravda, the best-selling Russian daily newspaper, asserts that although based on Soviet experience there's a one-in-five chance a nuke might not seal the well, it's "a gamble the Americans could certainly risk."
Reportedly, the U.S.S.R. developed special nuclear devices explicitly for closing blown-out gas wells, theorizing that the blast from a nuclear detonation would plug any hole within 25 to 50 meters, depending on the device's power. Much as I had idly imagined, massive explosions can be employed to collapse a runaway well on itself, thus plugging, or at least substantially stanching, the flow of oil.
“Seafloor nuclear detonation is starting to sound surprisingly feasible and appropriate," University of Texas at Austin mechanical engineer Michael E. Webber is quoted observing, while Columbia University visiting scholar on nuclear policy and former naval officer Christopher Brownfield wrote in the Daily Beast: "We should have demolished this well with explosives over a month ago. And yet we watch in excruciating suspense while BP fumbles through plan after plan to recover its oil and cover its asset.”
As to the reason for Obama’s government refusing to consider nuking this oil well, Sagalevich states in this report that the American’s “main concern” is not the environmental catastrophe this disaster is causing, but rather what the impact of using a nuclear weapon to stop this leak would have on the continued production of oil from the Gulf of Mexico, and which in an energy starved World’s remains the Planet’s only oil producing region able to increase its production.
On top of the environmental catastrophe currently unfolding in the Gulf of Mexico the situation may about to get even worse as new reports from the US are confirming the grim predictions of Russian scientists regarding the oil dispersement poisons being used by BP which are being swept up into the clouds and falling as toxic rain destroying every living plant it touches, and as we had detailed in our May 23rd report titled “Toxic Oil Spill Rains Warned Could Destroy North America”
To what the final outcome of this catastrophe will be it is not in our knowing other than to state the obvious that the choice facing the American’s today is to either stop this disaster now, by any means, or pay dearly for it later.  After all, is cheap petrol really worth the cost of destroying our own Earth?  BP surely thinks so, let’s keep hoping Obama doesn’t.
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Oil industry expert Bob Cavnar isn't buying the official story. He told MSNBC's Keith Olbermann on Wednesday that the repeated missteps cast doubt on BP's explanation for why the cap was necessary in the first place.

"I don't understand this whole operation," Cavnar stated. "Sunday was the first time I heard the words 'well integrity test.' There's never been any discussion about this in their public disclosure or in anything else that I've seen. ... So I'm completely confused as to why they're taking this risk of damaging the well further. ... They didn't have all these steps worked out."

"They shouldn't be doing this at all," he suggested. "They should be continuing with the relief well to get this thing killed."

Cavnar believes that BP's true goal is to make it harder to measure the flow of oil from the damaged well, because under the Clean Water Act, it will be liable for civil penalties of up to $4300 for every barrel spilled.

"While they have every incentive to get the well killed, BP also has every incentive to not capture 100% of the well flow until they do," Cavnar wrote last week at Huffington Post. "As soon as they do capture all the flow, then a real, measurable number will be in front of the public, and that's the last thing BP wants, since that number will then be used to extrapolate environmental damage, hence per barrel fines that will likely run to the tens of billions anyway."

"The whole [original] reason for this cap was to allow two more outlets to produce to four ships so they could capture between sixty and eighty thousand barrels a day," Cavnar told Olbermann "This whole business of shutting in -- and shutting down the relief well -- just doesn't make any sense to me at this point. ... My guess is that they're hoping to be able to shut down at least some of the production from the well so once they open it back up to the surface ... it will be producing at a rate less than what it was 'open flow.' So it'll be harder to measure what the total flow was from the well when it was completely uncontrolled."

This "test" is probably a good political and public relations bet for both the Obama administration and BP. It's really not a test at all and has no chance of actually testing anything about the well, except their ability to shut it in with no surface leaks. They want to shut in the well and get it off the nightly news. They want that so badly they're willing to risk anything for it. That's both BP and Our Government. They shut in the well and Thad Allen is a hero. They fail and he's no more of a moron than he has been for the last three months. If they succeed in shutting it in or not, any damage they've done in the "test" that makes the kill operation more difficult, or even impossible, will be a matter of opinion. This bet is against the citizens of the United States of America being smart enough to figure any of this out. It's not a bet on actual physical outcomes. It has nothing at all to do with what's the best plan for stopping this disaster.
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Reply #622 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:39pm
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Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 5:37pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 2:09pm:
Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 1:03pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 11:29am:
Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 11:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 10:29am:
Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:47am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:26am:
Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:01am:
I see Hope & Change coming right around the corner.

the impeachment drums are beating loud

Sadly, I was referring to the fact that the Observer In Chief & family is bringing
his oil slick to our state for an 11 day vacation.  Bush, Clinton now O always choose
Maine or Mass.  Don't they know there are 48 other states (or 52 as someone once said)
to bring their circus to?


you think it is a fact, he created the oil slick? and is causing pollution. there is a reason why they go there, the security and logistic for a presidfent to be there are in place...  if you'd like, we spend alot of money to set up airports, intel and safety networks so he can somewhere else, then you can complain about how mucgh he spent, like when he went to a show in NYC...
anything you don't get a saggy leaky diaper over?
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nice reply... i won't grace you with a return personal insult... at least you're not offensive like some people.

Say what you want, it's all good for a laugh!


thanks for the permission to speak what I choose, I was holding myself back...

Just encouragement, not permission.
Thanks for placing me in such a lofty position.



but sir, you put yourself in the position, twas not I.

Au contraire mon frere', for it was not I who brought the diaper comment to the fore.
I am bowing to your endless diatribe of wisdom.

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Reply #623 - Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:53pm
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Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:39pm:
Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 5:37pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 2:09pm:
Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 1:03pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 11:29am:
Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 11:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 10:29am:
Pdog wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:47am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:26am:
Some Guy wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:16am:
Nellcote wrote on Jul 15th, 2010 at 8:01am:
I see Hope & Change coming right around the corner.

the impeachment drums are beating loud

Sadly, I was referring to the fact that the Observer In Chief & family is bringing
his oil slick to our state for an 11 day vacation.  Bush, Clinton now O always choose
Maine or Mass.  Don't they know there are 48 other states (or 52 as someone once said)
to bring their circus to?


you think it is a fact, he created the oil slick? and is causing pollution. there is a reason why they go there, the security and logistic for a presidfent to be there are in place...  if you'd like, we spend alot of money to set up airports, intel and safety networks so he can somewhere else, then you can complain about how mucgh he spent, like when he went to a show in NYC...
anything you don't get a saggy leaky diaper over?
...

Meds?



nice reply... i won't grace you with a return personal insult... at least you're not offensive like some people.

Say what you want, it's all good for a laugh!


thanks for the permission to speak what I choose, I was holding myself back...

Just encouragement, not permission.
Thanks for placing me in such a lofty position.



but sir, you put yourself in the position, twas not I.

Au contraire mon frere', for it was not I who brought the diaper comment to the fore.
I am bowing to your endless diatribe of wisdom.




a metaphorical description of how I percieved the tone, not the same as a a rhetorical one words question alluding to my well being and need for medical/chemical help... but I see your point... if you felt as if I was making the comment to attack you personaly, it wasn't meant that way, it was to describe the complaining tone, no more than that...
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