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Reply #450 - Jun 9th, 2010 at 2:22pm
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StPeteStone wrote on Jun 9th, 2010 at 12:07pm:
I just love the song, figured it was as good a place to post as any.

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Reply #451 - Jun 9th, 2010 at 5:37pm
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Some Guy wrote on Jun 9th, 2010 at 2:22pm:
StPeteStone wrote on Jun 9th, 2010 at 12:07pm:
I just love the song, figured it was as good a place to post as any.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnjV8IKe66g

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That alone makes the Indian cry.
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Now I don't mind choppin' wood, and I don't care if ma money's no good. Ya take what ya need and ya leave the rest, But they should never have taken the very best.
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Reply #452 - Jun 10th, 2010 at 7:01pm
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Here's a question I would like answered. When BP decided to go to Plan B instead of Plan A, how much was the monetary savings?

Who much money was The Gulf of Mexico sold out for?

1 million?

25 million?

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Bingo wrote on Jun 10th, 2010 at 7:01pm:
Here's a question I would like answered. When BP decided to go to Plan B instead of Plan A, how much was the monetary savings?

Who much money was The Gulf of Mexico sold out for?

1 million?

25 million?

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good question, and I have no answer. Just more questions. Like why was the scientist BP had a contact in case of an envoirmental disaster deceased?
I'm also sick of hearing from certain extreme media outlets, how envoirmentalists are to blame and contributed to this accident. When the energy policy was put into place, the people present were energy company CEO's, people from the industry and zero people from any envoirmental groups...and in 2008 when people from the MMS and BP were doing lines of each others tits and dicks, no one blinked an eye and checked to see what they didn't do to protect us!!! Once again, zero envoirmentalists involved!!!
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Reply #454 - Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:35am
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It's deja vu all over again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9A36A3GTcY
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Edith Grove wrote on Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:35am:
It's deja vu all over again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9A36A3GTcY



it's fucking creepy... i find people do better when you tell them there;s a conspiracy, like the vice president is going to start a war or the president has a secret agenda to take over prvt. industry, then people do something... but when you have the planet being destroyed by something we do... can't be real, just some pics on TV.
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Reply #456 - Jun 11th, 2010 at 12:29pm
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The oil spill could be the seventh sign of the hopi prophecy (4th world)

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[The Fourth World shall end soon, and the Fifth World will begin. This the elders everywhere know. The Signs over many years have been fulfilled, and so few are left.

"This is the First Sign: We are told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana men who took the land that was not theirs. And men who struck their enemies with thunder.

"This is the Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. In his youth, my father saw this prophecy come true with his eyes -- the white men bringing their families in wagons across the prairies."

"This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. These White Feather saw with his eyes -- the coming of the white men's cattle."

"This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron."

"This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web."

"This is the Sixth sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun."

"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it."

"This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom.

"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease. ]
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Remember to keep your nose to the grindstone, your shoulder to the wheel, your feet on the ground, your eye on the ball, your ear to the ground, your finger on the pulse, your head on your shoulders, the pedal to the metal, a song in your heart, your hand on the helm and the bull by the horns
 
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BP now says spill just a drill

By Rudy M. Vorkapic
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In the wake of the failed “top kill” method to plug the Gulf oil spill, BP has announced the entire spectacle is actually a “long-planned” disaster drill designed to help the company respond effectively to catastrophes.

“Oh, now I see why all you Yanks were so cheesed off,” BP CEO Tony Hayward said. “You silly people thought we had you by the short and curlies, didn’t you you little buggers.

“No, just a little training exercise so we are sharp as tacks in case something like this ever did happen. Good lord, what sort of company would we be if we didn’t plan for even the most remote catastrophes, with so much at stake.”

Hayward said the company has spent nearly a billion dollars staging the disaster drill.

“I don’t know how you didn’t know it wasn’t a drill,” Hayward said. “No company would actually respond that badly. No way. We kept throwing monkey wrenches in our engineers' responses, just to see how bollockesd up we could make the thing. Make them earn those Christmas bonuses, wot?”

Hayward said the now infamous image of the spill spewing crude into the Gulf from a mile below the surface was actually set up in his son’s fish tank.

He said oil-covered birds are all intricately delicate electronic replicas and he insisted not one bird had been injured.

He said the discoloration of the Gulf water is simply food die and should fade away in 20 to 30 years or so.

Heyward encouraged those “who fell for our little charade” to drop lawsuits and “enjoy the black water.”

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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Reply #458 - Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:11pm
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President reflects
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Money no object for Obama's visit
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BP officials have enthusiastically declared the ambitious “top kill” attempt to plug the Gulf of Mexico oil leak completely successful for the approximately half-day period during which President Barack Obama was in the area.

The method, which involved plugging up the failed blow-out preventer with mud and debris, was started hours before Obama arrived, and was structured such that it would be 24 to 48 hours before any bad news could feasibly be reported.

“As of the five-hour mark of the president’s visit, we have succeeded in filling the well with heavy drilling mud, completely displacing the flow of oil. Everything is going according to our plan. Although we cannot speculate on the final outcome of these efforts, we will be able to make further comments as soon as Air Force One leaves the state of Louisiana,” BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles said during the procedure.

The half-day success of the top kill was mirrored on land by a massive spike in Gulf Coast clean-up operations, which dramatically improved the appearance of local beaches, marshes, and barrier islands in the vicinity of the president’s helicopter.

“About two hours before the president’s flyover, several bus loads of workers arrived on the shore with shovels. They covered all the oil with clean sand just before noon and then waved when as his helicopter flew by,” Grand Isle resident Will Marchal said. “It was beautiful, like the spill never happened. They were all gone after lunch.”

However, LSU environmental engineer Nick Nitopulous said the light dusting of clean sand would be washed away by the next high tide, leaving the oil-dabbled beach back in its contaminated condition.

When asked whether the sand shoveling was meant to be a permanent solution, Suttles replied no solution is perfect, but “our workers have provided several hours of remediation, which we think was extremely significant.” Suttles then glanced over a copy of Obama's itinerary and smiled.

Other BP efforts coordinated with the president’s appearance include injecting large tendrils of oil with blue dyes to "visually disperse” them, making sure all clean-up vessels prominently featured a BP logo, and removing oily build-up from the miles of sorbent boom girding the Louisiana coast so it will be “highly visible from helicopter level, for safety reasons.”

Meanwhile, BP-hired workers dropped hay bales into marshes, covering up dead and dying grasses and oil puddles so the wetlands would be “less visually jarring” to birds and other airborne observers.

“We’ve spent close to $200 million in the last three days alone preparing for our ‘Executive Push,’ as we call it. We promise local leaders that they will see a huge difference in our commitment over the coming hours,” Suttles said.

Upon Obama’s return to Washington D.C. on Friday evening and with most media outlets shutting down for the Memorial Day weekend, BP announced the top kill had completely failed, the flow from the broken wellhead had nearly doubled, new oil had washed ashore in Plaquemines, Terrebonne and Jefferson Parishes, while the BP PLC stock price had closed up nearly 7 percent.

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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Reply #459 - Jun 11th, 2010 at 2:16pm
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BP quickly contains lawsuits
Company has been field-testing legal response for years
By Helen Cox
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The growing slick of lawsuits seeping toward BP since “that whole Deepwater Horizon thing” is being effectively contained, a company spokesperson insists.

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(LEVEE illustration/Folwell Dunbar)The company’s success is due to the wide array of techniques BP has been field-testing for years in case such a disastrous quantity of suits were leveled at it simultaneously, BP spokesperson Cassius McFarlow assured reporters.

McFarlow said a 560,000-foot boom of BP lawyers quickly surrounded the company’s headquarters after the disaster began in a desperate effort to protect the company’s fiscal environment.

More than 670,000 barrels of toxically worded, lawsuit-dispersing warning letters to potential litigants were quickly released into the churning sea of claims.

The EPA demanded BP use less-toxic lawsuit dispersants, but the company insisted on using its most toxic attorneys first.
BP officials initially estimated 1,000 lawsuits per day were spewing toward them, but independent legal groups have indicated the rate is easily five times that, judging from careful studies of angry blogs describing litigious intentions.

Seventeen BP-attorney staging areas have been put into place in coastal locations where fishermen are threatening to sue over potential loss of livelihood.

According to McFarlow, fishermen are being told not to worry because “oil doesn’t really taste that bad on fish anyway and people probably won’t notice” and “those white shrimp boots will go great with your new, fully subsidized HAZMAT suits.”

One of BP’s most successful methods of combating the flow of oil has been hiring Halliburton to “do something” in the Gulf because when things go horribly awry, “who can resist just assuming it was all Halliburton’s fault?” Halliburton blame operations manager Dennis Frank said.

“Halliburton is the world leader in being right smack dab in the middle of colossal screw ups. We took an enormous amount of flak for the Bush Administration in Iraq, and we’re going to apply those lessons to this disaster as well,” Frank said.

Legal analysts marveled at BP’s ability to continually minimize the disaster, dissipating the impact of possible legal assaults.

“Every time someone compulsively calls a 1-800 lawyer after hearing one of BP’s low-ball environmental impact statements, or reading about our billions in profits last quarter, they’re more likely to file a weak, poorly thought out ‘tar ball’ complaint,” Tulane environmental law professor Hucaire A. Boutchafish said.

Such lawsuits are expected to be much easier to deal with than large slicks of gooey class-action litigation, which could seriously erode BP’s stock ecosystem.

McFarlow defended the company’s legal-containment effort.

“Given the inherent danger of deep-water drilling, we’ve spent years putting everything in place to deal with a flood of lawsuits exactly like this,” McFarlow said.

But McFarlow insisted BP is not resting on its laurels and will seek innovative new ways to deal with the lawsuit threat as it evolves “over the coming months, years, and probably, decades.”

Asked if he expects BP to fare better than Exxon, which was able to reduce its damages in the Exxon Valdez lawsuit spill to under $15,000 per litigant after two decades in the courts, McFarlow was optimistic.

“Legal technology has come a very long way since then,” he said. “We expect to have this entire situation under control in a fraction of the time, and at a fraction of the cost.”

“Many executive careers were destroyed in that tragic incident. We’ve made a commitment not to allow that to happen to our Gulf Coast Business Unit.”
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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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BP claims it owns 'blackened'
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Attorneys for oil conglomerate BP have filed for a cease-and-desist order to keep restaurants in New Orleans from using the phrase “blackened” in describing any seafood menu item.

“BP now owns the trademark on blackened seafood.” said Nigel Toothe, vice president of marketing for BP-USA. “Our trademark rights were retroactively effective the day the rig blew up and we blackened all the gulf seafood and wildlife.”

Toothe said BP also plans to stop Daiquiri shops in the area from selling their popular “Dead Dolphin” and “Petro-Pelican” daiquiris.

Some restaurants have already altered their menus, crossing out “blackened” to read “Redfish Scrubbed with Dawn dishwashing detergent.”

Some restaurateurs are up in arms about the move, but others say they’re too tired to fight.

“If there ain’t no effin fish to blacken, what the eff does it matter?” Hal Peno of Peno Brothers Bar and Grill said.

The claim comes on the heels of the National Football League trying to claim the trademark to the local phrase, “Who Dat?” as New Orleans Saints fans propelled team merchandise sales to league-best status buying everything with “Who Dat?” on it during the team’s first Super Bowl season,

“It’s simple economics,” BP’s Toothe said. “BP is losing billions of dollars in oil revenue from this spill. Not to mention we’ll have to pay thousands of dollars to the families of those who died, provided they waive their rights to future litigation. We need these trademark revenues so we can help the people.”

Toothe and other BP execs have claimed the Gulf catastrophe will cause minimal environmental damage. “Even if Grand Isle is a total loss, the damage could only be pennies when considering it in the grand immenseness of the universe.”

“We don’t mean to sound insensitive to the residents of the Gulf Coast.” he said. “This unfortunate Act of God slash Natural Disaster slash No Fault Accident has affected all of us.”

Already, the chief executive officers of BP are bracing for annual bonus reductions of 3 to 5 percent the first year.

Combined with likely gains in selling their BP stock and repurchasing it at a low cost and seeing it build after the company cuts short it disaster obligations, they may make only six to seven times what they would have made had the oil spill not occurred.

“You’re talking a loss of $5 million to $10 million in Christmas shopping money,” Toothe said. “So yes, we feel your pain.”

State and local officials expressed outrage at BP’s latest action.

Gov. Bobby Jindal said, “I’m outraged.”

U.S. Sen. David Vitter said, “I’m really angry.”

Jindal and Vitter promised to reiterate their outrage and anger in the next few weeks.

President Obama said he was disappointed by BP’s actions, sternly adding he will not hesitate to again express his disappointment in a month or so if necessary. He promised to form a committee to study how disappointed everyone is in BP.

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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Reply #461 - Jun 11th, 2010 at 3:08pm
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BP is using its google...

did you see the quote off BP's homepage? They had no idea why their stock prices have fallen...

What?

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Great motivation for the US the real football team tomorrow when they play the brits. The coach just needs to point towards the English players and tell his team.Those are the same guys who fucked up the Gulf. Now go win this for Louisiana. Huh
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Sunday afternoon at the Cajun-Zydeco Festival in New Orleans:



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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Man, the calls for Obama's impeachment are growing strong in the blogs. Maybe Riffy was right all along.
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Some Guy wrote on Jun 13th, 2010 at 6:17pm:
Man, the calls for Obama's impeachment are growing strong in the blogs. Maybe Riffy was right all along.

You might want to rethink that idea.
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Reply #466 - Jun 13th, 2010 at 6:33pm
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Some Guy wrote on Jun 13th, 2010 at 6:17pm:
Man, the calls for Obama's impeachment are growing strong in the blogs. Maybe Riffy was right all along.

You might want to rethink that idea.

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Some Guy wrote on Jun 13th, 2010 at 6:33pm:
sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 13th, 2010 at 6:31pm:
Some Guy wrote on Jun 13th, 2010 at 6:17pm:
Man, the calls for Obama's impeachment are growing strong in the blogs. Maybe Riffy was right all along.

You might want to rethink that idea.

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after tuesday nights speech, they will return... and the thread will be like it was... oily and yucky and not fun to be in...
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community organizer skills will not help here.
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community organizer skills will not help here.


if he can organize a fish fry, we're fine... otherwise, only the league of super heros can fix this mess... Aquaman is in rehab with doctor drew, seems he likes to smoke alot of speed and drink scotch... we're fucked!
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weak speech last night. Damn, I'm a drone.
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Some Guy wrote on Jun 16th, 2010 at 7:18am:
weak speech last night. Damn, I'm a drone.


it was a good speech, just too bad speeches are powerless, they do nothing unless followed by substantial action.
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weak speech last night. Damn, I'm a drone.


it was a good speech, just too bad speeches are powerless, they do nothing unless followed by substantial action.

It is what it is....and that's all it is. Interesting stuff Ronnie!
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What is likely to happen now?

Well...none of what is likely to happen is good, in fact...it's about as bad as it gets. I am convinced the erosion and compromising of the entire system is accelerating and attacking more key structural areas of the well, the blow out preventer and surrounding strata holding it all up and together. This is evidenced by the tilt of the blow out preventer and the erosion which has exposed the well head connection. What eventually will happen is that the blow out preventer will literally tip over if they do not run supports to it as the currents push on it. I suspect they will run those supports as cables tied to anchors very soon, if they don't, they are inviting disaster that much sooner.

Eventually even that will be futile as the well casings cannot support the weight of the massive system above with out the cement bond to the earth and that bond is being eroded away. When enough is eroded away the casings will buckle and the BOP will collapse the well. If and when you begin to see oil and gas coming up around the well area from under the BOP? or the area around the well head connection and casing sinking more and more rapidly? ...it won't be too long after that the entire system fails. BP must be aware of this, they are mapping the sea floor sonically and that is not a mere exercise. Our Gov't must be well aware too, they just are not telling us.

All of these things lead to only one place, a fully wide open well bore directly to the oil deposit...after that, it goes into the realm of "the worst things you can think of" The well may come completely apart as the inner liners fail. There is still a very long drill string in the well, that could literally come flying out...as I said...all the worst things you can think of are a possibility, but the very least damaging outcome as bad as it is, is that we are stuck with a wide open gusher blowing out 150,000 barrels a day of raw oil or more. There isn't any "cap dome" or any other suck fixer device on earth that exists or could be built that will stop it from gushing out and doing more and more damage to the gulf. While at the same time also doing more damage to the well, making the chance of halting it with a kill from the bottom up less and less likely to work, which as it stands now?....is the only real chance we have left to stop it all.

It's a race now...a race to drill the relief wells and take our last chance at killing this monster before the whole weakened, wore out, blown out, leaking and failing system gives up it's last gasp in a horrific crescendo.

We are not even 2 months into it, barely half way by even optimistic estimates. The damage done by the leaked oil now is virtually immeasurable already and it will not get better, it can only get worse. No matter how much they can collect, there will still be thousands and thousands of gallons leaking out every minute, every hour of every day. We have 2 months left before the relief wells are even near in position and set up to take a kill shot and that is being optimistic as I said.

Over the next 2 months the mechanical situation also cannot improve, it can only get worse, getting better is an impossibility. While they may make some gains on collecting the leaked oil, the structural situation cannot heal itself. It will continue to erode and flow out more oil and eventually the inevitable collapse which cannot be stopped will happen. It is only a simple matter of who can "get there first"...us or the well.

We can only hope the race against that eventuality is one we can win, but my assessment I am sad to say is that we will not.

The system will collapse or fail substantially before we reach the finish line ahead of the well and the worst is yet to come.

Sorry to bring you that news, I know it is grim, but that is the way I see it....I sincerely hope I am wrong.

We need to prepare for the possibility of this blow out sending more oil into the gulf per week then what we already have now, because that is what a collapse of the system will cause. All the collection efforts that have captured oil will be erased in short order. The magnitude of this disaster will increase exponentially by the time we can do anything to halt it and our odds of actually even being able to halt it will go down.

The magnitude and impact of this disaster will eclipse anything we have known in our life times if the worst or even near worst happens...

We are seeing the puny forces of man vs the awesome forces of nature.
We are going to need some luck and a lot of effort to win...
and if nature decides we ought to lose, we will....
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Re: OT - Gulf Coast Disaster
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Exxon Valdez.....every four days, according to CBS news this morning.  you made a grown man cry
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