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Reply #400 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:20am
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Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 8:59am:
Where are all of the "Save The Gulf" concerts?
Where are the celebs such as Sean Penn, Spike Lee, Kanye West?
Is this not as important as the earthquake in Haiti?
Where is Michael Moore asking the hard questions about BP & their operation?
Why isn't FEMA not providing disaster relief to the fisherman who have lost
their jobs from this disaster on Federal land?



sean penn has been non-stop working on haiti releif...
why don't you organize a concert... is your job telling other people what they should be doing? you kinda sound like one of those do as i say, not as i do'er....
as much as i feel for those who are hit economically, ecologically is where all our efforts need to be focused... there is no economics if the envoirment is not the first priority, and guitars and concerts won't do too much to save animals choking on oil right now... until the leak is stopped... what are we going to do, give money to BP? Why is your anger focused on celebs... I don't know how FEMA works to get folks money quickly, of course that is a federal clusterfuck... i think the bigger question is, why isn't BP paying the fisherman working on the clean up and why is the CEO saying people who are getting sick during the clean up may just have food poisoning... you can be angry at whoever you want, but Michael Moore and Kanye West... didn't create this and don't have to fix it... what you just said, would be like going to the eye doctor and complainnig you haven't been served any food by them...
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Re: OT - Gulf Coast Disaster
Reply #401 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:30am
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Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 8:59am:
Where are all of the "Save The Gulf" concerts?
Where are the celebs such as Sean Penn, Spike Lee, Kanye West?
Is this not as important as the earthquake in Haiti?
Where is Michael Moore asking the hard questions about BP & their operation?
Why isn't FEMA not providing disaster relief to the fisherman who have lost
their jobs from this disaster on Federal land?


I got a better idea. Let's have a send the bill to BP concert. We'll have a bunch of really good bands do a benefit for all the fisherman along the gulf coast. Except nobody has to pay for it. Just send BP a bill for another 10 mill.
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Reply #402 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:34am
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Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:20am:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 8:59am:
Where are all of the "Save The Gulf" concerts?
Where are the celebs such as Sean Penn, Spike Lee, Kanye West?
Is this not as important as the earthquake in Haiti?
Where is Michael Moore asking the hard questions about BP & their operation?
Why isn't FEMA not providing disaster relief to the fisherman who have lost
their jobs from this disaster on Federal land?



sean penn has been non-stop working on haiti releif...
why don't you organize a concert... is your job telling other people what they should be doing? you kinda sound like one of those do as i say, not as i do'er....
as much as i feel for those who are hit economically, ecologically is where all our efforts need to be focused... there is no economics if the envoirment is not the first priority, and guitars and concerts won't do too much to save animals choking on oil right now... until the leak is stopped... what are we going to do, give money to BP? Why is your anger focused on celebs... I don't know how FEMA works to get folks money quickly, of course that is a federal clusterfuck... i think the bigger question is, why isn't BP paying the fisherman working on the clean up and why is the CEO saying people who are getting sick during the clean up may just have food poisoning... you can be angry at whoever you want, but Michael Moore and Kanye West... didn't create this and don't have to fix it... what you just said, would be like going to the eye doctor and complainnig you haven't been served any food by them...


Time out.

Do not forget who granted the permits to drill to BP.
That's right, the US Govt.
The US Govt permitting process holds these companies
liable for spills such as this. 
The permits also are supposed to have govt officials determine
before drilling, as well as during operation if a company
is operating correctly. 
There have been many reports since this tragedy that BP, along
with Trans Ocean were operating in a substandard manner.
All I am saying is why is not more being done by the likes
of Michael Moore, who made millions of dollars going after
companies such as GM, to investigate this?  Is not what BP did more
harmful than what GM ever did?

All I am saying is there was widespread assistance to
the people in these other tragedies almost instantly.
The only one I've seen coming forward here is Kevin Costner,
and he may have an ulterior motive.

These are hard working Americans on our soil who have been
and will be financially effected for decades to come.
I find it very ironic that given the enormity of this tragedy that
there is a lack of importance placed on this by the very movie
stars who have wined & dined their way thru the Gulf Coast
for decades.  Maybe I'm missing this, maybe celebs are doing
something, sorry to take up bandwidth if I have missed this.

Tell you what-I'll fly there to do something the same day you fly there.

In the meantime, I'm calling on friends/relatives to call your senators
and congressman's to demand The White House to start acting Presidential instead of
hosting parties at the White House, or worrying about which NBA team LeBron
plays for, and act daily on this disaster.  I would ask you consider doing the same.
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Reply #403 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:53am
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if we can get that puppy under control we'll be shitting in tall cotton when it comes to oil.
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Reply #404 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 10:27am
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anyone heard about a second leak?
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Reply #405 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 10:28am
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Pdog wrote on Jun 4th, 2010 at 3:07pm:
I still can remember seeing those beaches as a very small child... never saw anything like it, reminded me of snow...

BP
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Reply #406 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 10:44am
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Some Guy wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 10:27am:
anyone heard about a second leak?

I took a second leak this morning. Roll Eyes
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Reply #407 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 10:46am
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 10:44am:
Some Guy wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 10:27am:
anyone heard about a second leak?

I took a second leak this morning. Roll Eyes

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Re: OT - Gulf Coast Disaster
Reply #408 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 11:06am
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Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 8:59am:
Where are all of the "Save The Gulf" concerts?
Where are the celebs such as Sean Penn, Spike Lee, Kanye West?
Is this not as important as the earthquake in Haiti?
Where is Michael Moore asking the hard questions about BP & their operation?
Why isn't FEMA not providing disaster relief to the fisherman who have lost
their jobs from this disaster on Federal land?



"Gulf Aid" happened a couple of weekends ago in New Orleans. Lenny Kravitz headlined.

This was recorded that same weekend: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnR1BrGgRVM  Wow!
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Reply #409 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 11:09am
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EG, thanks for this.  Again, I apologize, as I did not see this
event given such exposure as other relief events of this type.
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Reply #410 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 11:28am
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Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 11:09am:
EG, thanks for this.  Again, I apologize, as I did not see this
event given such exposure as other relief events of this type.


No apology needed and you're right, it didn't get much exposure.  you made a grown man cry
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Reply #411 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 1:00pm
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Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:34am:
Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:20am:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 8:59am:
Where are all of the "Save The Gulf" concerts?
Where are the celebs such as Sean Penn, Spike Lee, Kanye West?
Is this not as important as the earthquake in Haiti?
Where is Michael Moore asking the hard questions about BP & their operation?
Why isn't FEMA not providing disaster relief to the fisherman who have lost
their jobs from this disaster on Federal land?



sean penn has been non-stop working on haiti releif...
why don't you organize a concert... is your job telling other people what they should be doing? you kinda sound like one of those do as i say, not as i do'er....
as much as i feel for those who are hit economically, ecologically is where all our efforts need to be focused... there is no economics if the envoirment is not the first priority, and guitars and concerts won't do too much to save animals choking on oil right now... until the leak is stopped... what are we going to do, give money to BP? Why is your anger focused on celebs... I don't know how FEMA works to get folks money quickly, of course that is a federal clusterfuck... i think the bigger question is, why isn't BP paying the fisherman working on the clean up and why is the CEO saying people who are getting sick during the clean up may just have food poisoning... you can be angry at whoever you want, but Michael Moore and Kanye West... didn't create this and don't have to fix it... what you just said, would be like going to the eye doctor and complainnig you haven't been served any food by them...


Time out.

Do not forget who granted the permits to drill to BP.
That's right, the US Govt.
The US Govt permitting process holds these companies
liable for spills such as this.  
The permits also are supposed to have govt officials determine
before drilling, as well as during operation if a company
is operating correctly.  
There have been many reports since this tragedy that BP, along
with Trans Ocean were operating in a substandard manner.
All I am saying is why is not more being done by the likes
of Michael Moore, who made millions of dollars going after
companies such as GM, to investigate this?  Is not what BP did more
harmful than what GM ever did?

All I am saying is there was widespread assistance to
the people in these other tragedies almost instantly.
The only one I've seen coming forward here is Kevin Costner,
and he may have an ulterior motive.

These are hard working Americans on our soil who have been
and will be financially effected for decades to come.
I find it very ironic that given the enormity of this tragedy that
there is a lack of importance placed on this by the very movie
stars who have wined & dined their way thru the Gulf Coast
for decades.  Maybe I'm missing this, maybe celebs are doing
something, sorry to take up bandwidth if I have missed this.

Tell you what-I'll fly there to do something the same day you fly there.

In the meantime, I'm calling on friends/relatives to call your senators
and congressman's to demand The White House to start acting Presidential instead of
hosting parties at the White House, or worrying about which NBA team LeBron
plays for, and act daily on this disaster.  I would ask you consider doing the same.



you're upset michael morre isn't doing anything, or other famous people... i have heard you yourself, just recently bitch about stars using their starpower... is only when you deem they should...
are these your words or did you cut and paste that response from somewhere... looks familiar?
fyi... the white house is doing what they always have done in regards to PR sports ect... do you really need the presidnet to say things to make you feel more secure, or do you just want to complain about a guy you already didn't like... i'm just saying, there's a difference... you think this is about jobs and money? it's about life and the survival of life on this planet, which is created by and sustained by oceans... without that, were dead, and then you won't need to worry about jobs!
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Re: OT - Gulf Coast Disaster
Reply #412 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 1:32pm
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Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 1:00pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:34am:
Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:20am:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 8:59am:
Where are all of the "Save The Gulf" concerts?
Where are the celebs such as Sean Penn, Spike Lee, Kanye West?
Is this not as important as the earthquake in Haiti?
Where is Michael Moore asking the hard questions about BP & their operation?
Why isn't FEMA not providing disaster relief to the fisherman who have lost
their jobs from this disaster on Federal land?



sean penn has been non-stop working on haiti releif...
why don't you organize a concert... is your job telling other people what they should be doing? you kinda sound like one of those do as i say, not as i do'er....
as much as i feel for those who are hit economically, ecologically is where all our efforts need to be focused... there is no economics if the envoirment is not the first priority, and guitars and concerts won't do too much to save animals choking on oil right now... until the leak is stopped... what are we going to do, give money to BP? Why is your anger focused on celebs... I don't know how FEMA works to get folks money quickly, of course that is a federal clusterfuck... i think the bigger question is, why isn't BP paying the fisherman working on the clean up and why is the CEO saying people who are getting sick during the clean up may just have food poisoning... you can be angry at whoever you want, but Michael Moore and Kanye West... didn't create this and don't have to fix it... what you just said, would be like going to the eye doctor and complainnig you haven't been served any food by them...


Time out.

Do not forget who granted the permits to drill to BP.
That's right, the US Govt.
The US Govt permitting process holds these companies
liable for spills such as this.  
The permits also are supposed to have govt officials determine
before drilling, as well as during operation if a company
is operating correctly.  
There have been many reports since this tragedy that BP, along
with Trans Ocean were operating in a substandard manner.
All I am saying is why is not more being done by the likes
of Michael Moore, who made millions of dollars going after
companies such as GM, to investigate this?  Is not what BP did more
harmful than what GM ever did?

All I am saying is there was widespread assistance to
the people in these other tragedies almost instantly.
The only one I've seen coming forward here is Kevin Costner,
and he may have an ulterior motive.

These are hard working Americans on our soil who have been
and will be financially effected for decades to come.
I find it very ironic that given the enormity of this tragedy that
there is a lack of importance placed on this by the very movie
stars who have wined & dined their way thru the Gulf Coast
for decades.  Maybe I'm missing this, maybe celebs are doing
something, sorry to take up bandwidth if I have missed this.

Tell you what-I'll fly there to do something the same day you fly there.

In the meantime, I'm calling on friends/relatives to call your senators
and congressman's to demand The White House to start acting Presidential instead of
hosting parties at the White House, or worrying about which NBA team LeBron
plays for, and act daily on this disaster.  I would ask you consider doing the same.



you're upset michael morre isn't doing anything, or other famous people... i have heard you yourself, just recently bitch about stars using their starpower... is only when you deem they should...
are these your words or did you cut and paste that response from somewhere... looks familiar?
fyi... the white house is doing what they always have done in regards to PR sports ect... do you really need the presidnet to say things to make you feel more secure, or do you just want to complain about a guy you already didn't like... i'm just saying, there's a difference... you think this is about jobs and money? it's about life and the survival of life on this planet, which is created by and sustained by oceans... without that, were dead, and then you won't need to worry about jobs!


Go ahead & Google my words & phrases to find the articles I plagiarized.
I'll save you the time as I know you are a busy man.
I was fortunate enough to formulate these words on my own.
I'm a bit flattered you would hold my thoughts in such high regard!

Jobs & money=survival.
People who rely upon fishing in the Gulf, who fish within the closed off 32%
of the Gulf due to the BP spill are now out of work, where they have not been
able to eat for several days.  Next will come a spike in the suicide rate from
this as banks & other creditors will start to bear down.
So it will have a direct correlation to survival.

If your not too busy, pleas consider a call to your Senator or Congressman & tell them to get Party Boy
Obama's little ass out of the private theater screenings (held last night, did
you know?)  & down to the Gulf to do something.  And to answer your question, yes, I and the majority
of Americans feel he is not doing enough.
New polls released today indicate 66% of the population of the US are saying the Govt is
not doing enough about BP Oil spill.  This compared to 62% at it's highest
during Katrina.
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Reply #413 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 1:55pm
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Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 1:32pm:
Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 1:00pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:34am:
Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:20am:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 8:59am:
Where are all of the "Save The Gulf" concerts?
Where are the celebs such as Sean Penn, Spike Lee, Kanye West?
Is this not as important as the earthquake in Haiti?
Where is Michael Moore asking the hard questions about BP & their operation?
Why isn't FEMA not providing disaster relief to the fisherman who have lost
their jobs from this disaster on Federal land?



sean penn has been non-stop working on haiti releif...
why don't you organize a concert... is your job telling other people what they should be doing? you kinda sound like one of those do as i say, not as i do'er....
as much as i feel for those who are hit economically, ecologically is where all our efforts need to be focused... there is no economics if the envoirment is not the first priority, and guitars and concerts won't do too much to save animals choking on oil right now... until the leak is stopped... what are we going to do, give money to BP? Why is your anger focused on celebs... I don't know how FEMA works to get folks money quickly, of course that is a federal clusterfuck... i think the bigger question is, why isn't BP paying the fisherman working on the clean up and why is the CEO saying people who are getting sick during the clean up may just have food poisoning... you can be angry at whoever you want, but Michael Moore and Kanye West... didn't create this and don't have to fix it... what you just said, would be like going to the eye doctor and complainnig you haven't been served any food by them...


Time out.

Do not forget who granted the permits to drill to BP.
That's right, the US Govt.
The US Govt permitting process holds these companies
liable for spills such as this.  
The permits also are supposed to have govt officials determine
before drilling, as well as during operation if a company
is operating correctly.  
There have been many reports since this tragedy that BP, along
with Trans Ocean were operating in a substandard manner.
All I am saying is why is not more being done by the likes
of Michael Moore, who made millions of dollars going after
companies such as GM, to investigate this?  Is not what BP did more
harmful than what GM ever did?

All I am saying is there was widespread assistance to
the people in these other tragedies almost instantly.
The only one I've seen coming forward here is Kevin Costner,
and he may have an ulterior motive.

These are hard working Americans on our soil who have been
and will be financially effected for decades to come.
I find it very ironic that given the enormity of this tragedy that
there is a lack of importance placed on this by the very movie
stars who have wined & dined their way thru the Gulf Coast
for decades.  Maybe I'm missing this, maybe celebs are doing
something, sorry to take up bandwidth if I have missed this.

Tell you what-I'll fly there to do something the same day you fly there.

In the meantime, I'm calling on friends/relatives to call your senators
and congressman's to demand The White House to start acting Presidential instead of
hosting parties at the White House, or worrying about which NBA team LeBron
plays for, and act daily on this disaster.  I would ask you consider doing the same.



you're upset michael morre isn't doing anything, or other famous people... i have heard you yourself, just recently bitch about stars using their starpower... is only when you deem they should...
are these your words or did you cut and paste that response from somewhere... looks familiar?
fyi... the white house is doing what they always have done in regards to PR sports ect... do you really need the presidnet to say things to make you feel more secure, or do you just want to complain about a guy you already didn't like... i'm just saying, there's a difference... you think this is about jobs and money? it's about life and the survival of life on this planet, which is created by and sustained by oceans... without that, were dead, and then you won't need to worry about jobs!


Go ahead & Google my words & phrases to find the articles I plagiarized.
I'll save you the time as I know you are a busy man.
I was fortunate enough to formulate these words on my own.
I'm a bit flattered you would hold my thoughts in such high regard!

Jobs & money=survival.
People who rely upon fishing in the Gulf, who fish within the closed off 32%
of the Gulf due to the BP spill are now out of work, where they have not been
able to eat for several days.  Next will come a spike in the suicide rate from
this as banks & other creditors will start to bear down.
So it will have a direct correlation to survival.

If your not too busy, pleas consider a call to your Senator or Congressman & tell them to get Party Boy
Obama's little ass out of the private theater screenings (held last night, did
you know?)  & down to the Gulf to do something.  And to answer your question, yes, I and the majority
of Americans feel he is not doing enough.
New polls released today indicate 66% of the population of the US are saying the Govt is
not doing enough about BP Oil spill.  This compared to 62% at it's highest
during Katrina.



i hope that got alot of govt. cheese for those folks, because i don't think they'll be fishing for another generation or so... you're now teling me that people are going to kill themselves? And they aren't getting food... because the presibet ain't doing enough... so, you're, a conservative, is calling for the feds to give people cash... okay. problem solved...i think... oh wait no, what you're talking about isn't the problem... it's the consequences of the problem... oil leak, envoirmental catastrophes is still ongoing... that is the problem... you keep on obama, that's really going to stop the leak and save the near dead ecosystem. just a sarcastic fyi... i know you're used to reactionary politicans and leaders who have great uniformed one line solutions that have no effect, but sure get people riled up... Obama isn't one of them, he is very smart and can actually multi-task... he actaully could read a book and chew gum... he's failing on many levels, no doubt... because no one did this before, and then he very unobjective critics scrutinizing things of no consequence, like what he had for lunch... what you don't know.. is who and how much he has done... like it would matter... you view is obtuse b/c you don't like him... and that doesn't stop the leak or help the envoirment. which is important to you, i hope....
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Reply #414 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 2:19pm
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Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 1:55pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 1:32pm:
Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 1:00pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:34am:
Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:20am:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 8:59am:
Where are all of the "Save The Gulf" concerts?
Where are the celebs such as Sean Penn, Spike Lee, Kanye West?
Is this not as important as the earthquake in Haiti?
Where is Michael Moore asking the hard questions about BP & their operation?
Why isn't FEMA not providing disaster relief to the fisherman who have lost
their jobs from this disaster on Federal land?



sean penn has been non-stop working on haiti releif...
why don't you organize a concert... is your job telling other people what they should be doing? you kinda sound like one of those do as i say, not as i do'er....
as much as i feel for those who are hit economically, ecologically is where all our efforts need to be focused... there is no economics if the envoirment is not the first priority, and guitars and concerts won't do too much to save animals choking on oil right now... until the leak is stopped... what are we going to do, give money to BP? Why is your anger focused on celebs... I don't know how FEMA works to get folks money quickly, of course that is a federal clusterfuck... i think the bigger question is, why isn't BP paying the fisherman working on the clean up and why is the CEO saying people who are getting sick during the clean up may just have food poisoning... you can be angry at whoever you want, but Michael Moore and Kanye West... didn't create this and don't have to fix it... what you just said, would be like going to the eye doctor and complainnig you haven't been served any food by them...


Time out.

Do not forget who granted the permits to drill to BP.
That's right, the US Govt.
The US Govt permitting process holds these companies
liable for spills such as this.  
The permits also are supposed to have govt officials determine
before drilling, as well as during operation if a company
is operating correctly.  
There have been many reports since this tragedy that BP, along
with Trans Ocean were operating in a substandard manner.
All I am saying is why is not more being done by the likes
of Michael Moore, who made millions of dollars going after
companies such as GM, to investigate this?  Is not what BP did more
harmful than what GM ever did?

All I am saying is there was widespread assistance to
the people in these other tragedies almost instantly.
The only one I've seen coming forward here is Kevin Costner,
and he may have an ulterior motive.

These are hard working Americans on our soil who have been
and will be financially effected for decades to come.
I find it very ironic that given the enormity of this tragedy that
there is a lack of importance placed on this by the very movie
stars who have wined & dined their way thru the Gulf Coast
for decades.  Maybe I'm missing this, maybe celebs are doing
something, sorry to take up bandwidth if I have missed this.

Tell you what-I'll fly there to do something the same day you fly there.

In the meantime, I'm calling on friends/relatives to call your senators
and congressman's to demand The White House to start acting Presidential instead of
hosting parties at the White House, or worrying about which NBA team LeBron
plays for, and act daily on this disaster.  I would ask you consider doing the same.



you're upset michael morre isn't doing anything, or other famous people... i have heard you yourself, just recently bitch about stars using their starpower... is only when you deem they should...
are these your words or did you cut and paste that response from somewhere... looks familiar?
fyi... the white house is doing what they always have done in regards to PR sports ect... do you really need the presidnet to say things to make you feel more secure, or do you just want to complain about a guy you already didn't like... i'm just saying, there's a difference... you think this is about jobs and money? it's about life and the survival of life on this planet, which is created by and sustained by oceans... without that, were dead, and then you won't need to worry about jobs!


Go ahead & Google my words & phrases to find the articles I plagiarized.
I'll save you the time as I know you are a busy man.
I was fortunate enough to formulate these words on my own.
I'm a bit flattered you would hold my thoughts in such high regard!

Jobs & money=survival.
People who rely upon fishing in the Gulf, who fish within the closed off 32%
of the Gulf due to the BP spill are now out of work, where they have not been
able to eat for several days.  Next will come a spike in the suicide rate from
this as banks & other creditors will start to bear down.
So it will have a direct correlation to survival.

If your not too busy, pleas consider a call to your Senator or Congressman & tell them to get Party Boy
Obama's little ass out of the private theater screenings (held last night, did
you know?)  & down to the Gulf to do something.  And to answer your question, yes, I and the majority
of Americans feel he is not doing enough.
New polls released today indicate 66% of the population of the US are saying the Govt is
not doing enough about BP Oil spill.  This compared to 62% at it's highest
during Katrina.



i hope that got alot of govt. cheese for those folks, because i don't think they'll be fishing for another generation or so... you're now teling me that people are going to kill themselves? And they aren't getting food... because the presibet ain't doing enough... so, you're, a conservative, is calling for the feds to give people cash... okay. problem solved...i think... oh wait no, what you're talking about isn't the problem... it's the consequences of the problem... oil leak, envoirmental catastrophes is still ongoing... that is the problem... you keep on obama, that's really going to stop the leak and save the near dead ecosystem. just a sarcastic fyi... i know you're used to reactionary politicans and leaders who have great uniformed one line solutions that have no effect, but sure get people riled up... Obama isn't one of them, he is very smart and can actually multi-task... he actaully could read a book and chew gum... he's failing on many levels, no doubt... because no one did this before, and then he very unobjective critics scrutinizing things of no consequence, like what he had for lunch... what you don't know.. is who and how much he has done... like it would matter... you view is obtuse b/c you don't like him... and that doesn't stop the leak or help the envoirment. which is important to you, i hope....


You can spin my words all you want (how did that Google search work out for ya?)
I'm saying, so it will be clear:

1.  Suspend all environmental restrictions on the Gulf so as to allow items such
     as unlimited placement of sea berm to protect the marshlands.  We do not
     need to hear that the Gov't wants to study the impact of applying berm, or using
     sand as a deterrent to oil.

2.  Use FEMA authority to assist those individuals who have been placed out of
     business to operate their business.  Send all billing to BP & Trans Ocean.
     It's not as if FEMA assistance is a new thing.

     This is not a political assessment of Obama, it's not along party lines.
Some people would like to view it this way, truth is any President would be
in trouble on this.  It's just Obama is sinking quicker than most because of the
lack of leadership he's projecting.  He promised he could handle everything, remember?
It's getting pretty near close to a majority of Americans who feel he's not up to the task of this problem,
close to the majority who elected him.  It is his problem, yet he is still providing
the impression it's ok to party with Macca, so I guess he knows best.  All I can see
it's what the country is saying, and most feel he's detached from reality.

     Again, let's not think I'm the only one in this country who is advocating such
measures.

     In summary, I'm bringing forward facts.  These are abundantly available to
anyone.  I'm not here to convince anyone, the oil & it's damage will sadly impact everyone soon
enough, including you & I.

     So good luck to you Pdog.  You can choose your learning curve on what's happening
from your sources & I'll be choosing mine.  Here's to you & I things get better sooner than
later. 

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riffsmooch, come on. you won't back out. you never do.

do you not see the negativity that you espouse? other conservatives such as nankopotomus are able to convey their complete and utter contempt for the current administration and not do it in a negative way or come off as such a condescending dink. the thing is, you are right in a great many of your opinions....but when you broadcast your opinions as clear facts, and those that don't agree with you are #@$king drone simpletons, it is more insulting than bringing a bottle of jack daniel's to an AA meeting.

cut the crap, OK? some of us would actually be interested in discussing politics, and you ruin it for everyone else.



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Reply #416 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 3:03pm
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Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 2:19pm:
Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 1:55pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 1:32pm:
Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 1:00pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:34am:
Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:20am:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 8:59am:
Where are all of the "Save The Gulf" concerts?
Where are the celebs such as Sean Penn, Spike Lee, Kanye West?
Is this not as important as the earthquake in Haiti?
Where is Michael Moore asking the hard questions about BP & their operation?
Why isn't FEMA not providing disaster relief to the fisherman who have lost
their jobs from this disaster on Federal land?



sean penn has been non-stop working on haiti releif...
why don't you organize a concert... is your job telling other people what they should be doing? you kinda sound like one of those do as i say, not as i do'er....
as much as i feel for those who are hit economically, ecologically is where all our efforts need to be focused... there is no economics if the envoirment is not the first priority, and guitars and concerts won't do too much to save animals choking on oil right now... until the leak is stopped... what are we going to do, give money to BP? Why is your anger focused on celebs... I don't know how FEMA works to get folks money quickly, of course that is a federal clusterfuck... i think the bigger question is, why isn't BP paying the fisherman working on the clean up and why is the CEO saying people who are getting sick during the clean up may just have food poisoning... you can be angry at whoever you want, but Michael Moore and Kanye West... didn't create this and don't have to fix it... what you just said, would be like going to the eye doctor and complainnig you haven't been served any food by them...


Time out.

Do not forget who granted the permits to drill to BP.
That's right, the US Govt.
The US Govt permitting process holds these companies
liable for spills such as this.  
The permits also are supposed to have govt officials determine
before drilling, as well as during operation if a company
is operating correctly.  
There have been many reports since this tragedy that BP, along
with Trans Ocean were operating in a substandard manner.
All I am saying is why is not more being done by the likes
of Michael Moore, who made millions of dollars going after
companies such as GM, to investigate this?  Is not what BP did more
harmful than what GM ever did?

All I am saying is there was widespread assistance to
the people in these other tragedies almost instantly.
The only one I've seen coming forward here is Kevin Costner,
and he may have an ulterior motive.

These are hard working Americans on our soil who have been
and will be financially effected for decades to come.
I find it very ironic that given the enormity of this tragedy that
there is a lack of importance placed on this by the very movie
stars who have wined & dined their way thru the Gulf Coast
for decades.  Maybe I'm missing this, maybe celebs are doing
something, sorry to take up bandwidth if I have missed this.

Tell you what-I'll fly there to do something the same day you fly there.

In the meantime, I'm calling on friends/relatives to call your senators
and congressman's to demand The White House to start acting Presidential instead of
hosting parties at the White House, or worrying about which NBA team LeBron
plays for, and act daily on this disaster.  I would ask you consider doing the same.



you're upset michael morre isn't doing anything, or other famous people... i have heard you yourself, just recently bitch about stars using their starpower... is only when you deem they should...
are these your words or did you cut and paste that response from somewhere... looks familiar?
fyi... the white house is doing what they always have done in regards to PR sports ect... do you really need the presidnet to say things to make you feel more secure, or do you just want to complain about a guy you already didn't like... i'm just saying, there's a difference... you think this is about jobs and money? it's about life and the survival of life on this planet, which is created by and sustained by oceans... without that, were dead, and then you won't need to worry about jobs!


Go ahead & Google my words & phrases to find the articles I plagiarized.
I'll save you the time as I know you are a busy man.
I was fortunate enough to formulate these words on my own.
I'm a bit flattered you would hold my thoughts in such high regard!

Jobs & money=survival.
People who rely upon fishing in the Gulf, who fish within the closed off 32%
of the Gulf due to the BP spill are now out of work, where they have not been
able to eat for several days.  Next will come a spike in the suicide rate from
this as banks & other creditors will start to bear down.
So it will have a direct correlation to survival.

If your not too busy, pleas consider a call to your Senator or Congressman & tell them to get Party Boy
Obama's little ass out of the private theater screenings (held last night, did
you know?)  & down to the Gulf to do something.  And to answer your question, yes, I and the majority
of Americans feel he is not doing enough.
New polls released today indicate 66% of the population of the US are saying the Govt is
not doing enough about BP Oil spill.  This compared to 62% at it's highest
during Katrina.



i hope that got alot of govt. cheese for those folks, because i don't think they'll be fishing for another generation or so... you're now teling me that people are going to kill themselves? And they aren't getting food... because the presibet ain't doing enough... so, you're, a conservative, is calling for the feds to give people cash... okay. problem solved...i think... oh wait no, what you're talking about isn't the problem... it's the consequences of the problem... oil leak, envoirmental catastrophes is still ongoing... that is the problem... you keep on obama, that's really going to stop the leak and save the near dead ecosystem. just a sarcastic fyi... i know you're used to reactionary politicans and leaders who have great uniformed one line solutions that have no effect, but sure get people riled up... Obama isn't one of them, he is very smart and can actually multi-task... he actaully could read a book and chew gum... he's failing on many levels, no doubt... because no one did this before, and then he very unobjective critics scrutinizing things of no consequence, like what he had for lunch... what you don't know.. is who and how much he has done... like it would matter... you view is obtuse b/c you don't like him... and that doesn't stop the leak or help the envoirment. which is important to you, i hope....


You can spin my words all you want (how did that Google search work out for ya?)
I'm saying, so it will be clear:

1.  Suspend all environmental restrictions on the Gulf so as to allow items such
    as unlimited placement of sea berm to protect the marshlands.  We do not
    need to hear that the Gov't wants to study the impact of applying berm, or using
    sand as a deterrent to oil.

2.  Use FEMA authority to assist those individuals who have been placed out of
    business to operate their business.  Send all billing to BP & Trans Ocean.
    It's not as if FEMA assistance is a new thing.

     This is not a political assessment of Obama, it's not along party lines.
Some people would like to view it this way, truth is any President would be
in trouble on this.  It's just Obama is sinking quicker than most because of the
lack of leadership he's projecting.  He promised he could handle everything, remember?
It's getting pretty near close to a majority of Americans who feel he's not up to the task of this problem,
close to the majority who elected him.  It is his problem, yet he is still providing
the impression it's ok to party with Macca, so I guess he knows best.  All I can see
it's what the country is saying, and most feel he's detached from reality.

     Again, let's not think I'm the only one in this country who is advocating such
measures.

     In summary, I'm bringing forward facts.  These are abundantly available to
anyone.  I'm not here to convince anyone, the oil & it's damage will sadly impact everyone soon
enough, including you & I.

    So good luck to you Pdog.  You can choose your learning curve on what's happening
from your sources & I'll be choosing mine.  Here's to you & I things get better sooner than
later.  




haha, suspend all envoirmental restrictions... that is really bad... we already know BP is ppoisoning the gulf with chemical disperments and not actually cleainng up the spill... so we give them a free pass to pollute even more... we need to suck up the spill, not more polution... worst idea ever Nellie... no irnony lost that suspending restrictions on drilling, is what go us in this mess... i do like your second idea, although, there is one problem... most of the fishing is done independently... .having been an independent contractor for a long time myseelf, you don't pay unemeployment ins. or into disabilty, unless you want to... and income fluxiates... I lost money for months and moths after september 11th... there was no business, and I didn't get a check form the govt... it was fucked, so i found another source of income and rode it out... i'm not sure how the bueacracy works on this one... it's funny seeing a conservative take the liberal throwm money at it stance... and i'm sure if or when they do, you'll complain about that as a blind spending spree and a nanny state... BP needs to cut the checks now, the assets need to be seaized and people need to be in handcuffs... in a few years, they will be filing bankruptcy and those in charge will not held accountable... and about the chemical dispersemnt going on... that is why you have people in haz mat suits on the beaches and people getting sick... the oil is bad, but these chemicals are insane... this isn't about the federal govt., this is what hasppens when you let free market and unregualted industries do what they want... you like your cheap gas? really wasn't that cheap was it... there's a secondary cost. this is why the rest of the wrold pays so much... b/c they tax the fuck out of it, conserve and don't let the industry call the shots... oh, and many decided a long toime ago, to explore alterante sources using the money from taxes... big companies, big govt... you and i are big fucked... and the envoirment, our planet is being killed...
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Reply #417 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 3:20pm
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Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 3:03pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 2:19pm:
Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 1:55pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 1:32pm:
Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 1:00pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:34am:
Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:20am:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 8:59am:
Where are all of the "Save The Gulf" concerts?
Where are the celebs such as Sean Penn, Spike Lee, Kanye West?
Is this not as important as the earthquake in Haiti?
Where is Michael Moore asking the hard questions about BP & their operation?
Why isn't FEMA not providing disaster relief to the fisherman who have lost
their jobs from this disaster on Federal land?



sean penn has been non-stop working on haiti releif...
why don't you organize a concert... is your job telling other people what they should be doing? you kinda sound like one of those do as i say, not as i do'er....
as much as i feel for those who are hit economically, ecologically is where all our efforts need to be focused... there is no economics if the envoirment is not the first priority, and guitars and concerts won't do too much to save animals choking on oil right now... until the leak is stopped... what are we going to do, give money to BP? Why is your anger focused on celebs... I don't know how FEMA works to get folks money quickly, of course that is a federal clusterfuck... i think the bigger question is, why isn't BP paying the fisherman working on the clean up and why is the CEO saying people who are getting sick during the clean up may just have food poisoning... you can be angry at whoever you want, but Michael Moore and Kanye West... didn't create this and don't have to fix it... what you just said, would be like going to the eye doctor and complainnig you haven't been served any food by them...


Time out.

Do not forget who granted the permits to drill to BP.
That's right, the US Govt.
The US Govt permitting process holds these companies
liable for spills such as this.  
The permits also are supposed to have govt officials determine
before drilling, as well as during operation if a company
is operating correctly.  
There have been many reports since this tragedy that BP, along
with Trans Ocean were operating in a substandard manner.
All I am saying is why is not more being done by the likes
of Michael Moore, who made millions of dollars going after
companies such as GM, to investigate this?  Is not what BP did more
harmful than what GM ever did?

All I am saying is there was widespread assistance to
the people in these other tragedies almost instantly.
The only one I've seen coming forward here is Kevin Costner,
and he may have an ulterior motive.

These are hard working Americans on our soil who have been
and will be financially effected for decades to come.
I find it very ironic that given the enormity of this tragedy that
there is a lack of importance placed on this by the very movie
stars who have wined & dined their way thru the Gulf Coast
for decades.  Maybe I'm missing this, maybe celebs are doing
something, sorry to take up bandwidth if I have missed this.

Tell you what-I'll fly there to do something the same day you fly there.

In the meantime, I'm calling on friends/relatives to call your senators
and congressman's to demand The White House to start acting Presidential instead of
hosting parties at the White House, or worrying about which NBA team LeBron
plays for, and act daily on this disaster.  I would ask you consider doing the same.



you're upset michael morre isn't doing anything, or other famous people... i have heard you yourself, just recently bitch about stars using their starpower... is only when you deem they should...
are these your words or did you cut and paste that response from somewhere... looks familiar?
fyi... the white house is doing what they always have done in regards to PR sports ect... do you really need the presidnet to say things to make you feel more secure, or do you just want to complain about a guy you already didn't like... i'm just saying, there's a difference... you think this is about jobs and money? it's about life and the survival of life on this planet, which is created by and sustained by oceans... without that, were dead, and then you won't need to worry about jobs!


Go ahead & Google my words & phrases to find the articles I plagiarized.
I'll save you the time as I know you are a busy man.
I was fortunate enough to formulate these words on my own.
I'm a bit flattered you would hold my thoughts in such high regard!

Jobs & money=survival.
People who rely upon fishing in the Gulf, who fish within the closed off 32%
of the Gulf due to the BP spill are now out of work, where they have not been
able to eat for several days.  Next will come a spike in the suicide rate from
this as banks & other creditors will start to bear down.
So it will have a direct correlation to survival.

If your not too busy, pleas consider a call to your Senator or Congressman & tell them to get Party Boy
Obama's little ass out of the private theater screenings (held last night, did
you know?)  & down to the Gulf to do something.  And to answer your question, yes, I and the majority
of Americans feel he is not doing enough.
New polls released today indicate 66% of the population of the US are saying the Govt is
not doing enough about BP Oil spill.  This compared to 62% at it's highest
during Katrina.



i hope that got alot of govt. cheese for those folks, because i don't think they'll be fishing for another generation or so... you're now teling me that people are going to kill themselves? And they aren't getting food... because the presibet ain't doing enough... so, you're, a conservative, is calling for the feds to give people cash... okay. problem solved...i think... oh wait no, what you're talking about isn't the problem... it's the consequences of the problem... oil leak, envoirmental catastrophes is still ongoing... that is the problem... you keep on obama, that's really going to stop the leak and save the near dead ecosystem. just a sarcastic fyi... i know you're used to reactionary politicans and leaders who have great uniformed one line solutions that have no effect, but sure get people riled up... Obama isn't one of them, he is very smart and can actually multi-task... he actaully could read a book and chew gum... he's failing on many levels, no doubt... because no one did this before, and then he very unobjective critics scrutinizing things of no consequence, like what he had for lunch... what you don't know.. is who and how much he has done... like it would matter... you view is obtuse b/c you don't like him... and that doesn't stop the leak or help the envoirment. which is important to you, i hope....


You can spin my words all you want (how did that Google search work out for ya?)
I'm saying, so it will be clear:

1.  Suspend all environmental restrictions on the Gulf so as to allow items such
    as unlimited placement of sea berm to protect the marshlands.  We do not
    need to hear that the Gov't wants to study the impact of applying berm, or using
    sand as a deterrent to oil.

2.  Use FEMA authority to assist those individuals who have been placed out of
    business to operate their business.  Send all billing to BP & Trans Ocean.
    It's not as if FEMA assistance is a new thing.

     This is not a political assessment of Obama, it's not along party lines.
Some people would like to view it this way, truth is any President would be
in trouble on this.  It's just Obama is sinking quicker than most because of the
lack of leadership he's projecting.  He promised he could handle everything, remember?
It's getting pretty near close to a majority of Americans who feel he's not up to the task of this problem,
close to the majority who elected him.  It is his problem, yet he is still providing
the impression it's ok to party with Macca, so I guess he knows best.  All I can see
it's what the country is saying, and most feel he's detached from reality.

     Again, let's not think I'm the only one in this country who is advocating such
measures.

     In summary, I'm bringing forward facts.  These are abundantly available to
anyone.  I'm not here to convince anyone, the oil & it's damage will sadly impact everyone soon
enough, including you & I.

    So good luck to you Pdog.  You can choose your learning curve on what's happening
from your sources & I'll be choosing mine.  Here's to you & I things get better sooner than
later.  




haha, suspend all envoirmental restrictions... that is really bad... we already know BP is ppoisoning the gulf with chemical disperments and not actually cleainng up the spill... so we give them a free pass to pollute even more... we need to suck up the spill, not more polution... worst idea ever Nellie... no irnony lost that suspending restrictions on drilling, is what go us in this mess... i do like your second idea, although, there is one problem... most of the fishing is done independently... .having been an independent contractor for a long time myseelf, you don't pay unemeployment ins. or into disabilty, unless you want to... and income fluxiates... I lost money for months and moths after september 11th... there was no business, and I didn't get a check form the govt... it was fucked, so i found another source of income and rode it out... i'm not sure how the bueacracy works on this one... it's funny seeing a conservative take the liberal throwm money at it stance... and i'm sure if or when they do, you'll complain about that as a blind spending spree and a nanny state... BP needs to cut the checks now, the assets need to be seaized and people need to be in handcuffs... in a few years, they will be filing bankruptcy and those in charge will not held accountable... and about the chemical dispersemnt going on... that is why you have people in haz mat suits on the beaches and people getting sick... the oil is bad, but these chemicals are insane... this isn't about the federal govt., this is what hasppens when you let free market and unregualted industries do what they want... you like your cheap gas? really wasn't that cheap was it... there's a secondary cost. this is why the rest of the wrold pays so much... b/c they tax the fuck out of it, conserve and don't let the industry call the shots... oh, and many decided a long toime ago, to explore alterante sources using the money from taxes... big companies, big govt... you and i are big fucked... and the envoirment, our planet is being killed...

All the interviews with the mayors of the Parishes in Louisiana cited
the inability to work with the government towards approval of the various
oil prevention tactics they wanted to employ.  They knew how to handle
the incoming oil, had the manpower to do so in unemployed fisherman,but were faced with
Government impact studies to do so.  Sadly for these folks most of the marshes
they were looking to protect are ruined forever due to the stupid, arcane
Gov't impact studies.  This is fact.  This did not have to be this way.
So yes, for the good of what's left, assign a gov't overseer & give the
parishes what they want. 
The ironic item is some of the tactics BP has been using for chemical treatment
could be more harmful than if the berm was approved.

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Reply #418 - Jun 7th, 2010 at 3:33pm
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Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 3:20pm:
Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 3:03pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 2:19pm:
Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 1:55pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 1:32pm:
Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 1:00pm:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:34am:
Pdog wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 9:20am:
Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 8:59am:
Where are all of the "Save The Gulf" concerts?
Where are the celebs such as Sean Penn, Spike Lee, Kanye West?
Is this not as important as the earthquake in Haiti?
Where is Michael Moore asking the hard questions about BP & their operation?
Why isn't FEMA not providing disaster relief to the fisherman who have lost
their jobs from this disaster on Federal land?



sean penn has been non-stop working on haiti releif...
why don't you organize a concert... is your job telling other people what they should be doing? you kinda sound like one of those do as i say, not as i do'er....
as much as i feel for those who are hit economically, ecologically is where all our efforts need to be focused... there is no economics if the envoirment is not the first priority, and guitars and concerts won't do too much to save animals choking on oil right now... until the leak is stopped... what are we going to do, give money to BP? Why is your anger focused on celebs... I don't know how FEMA works to get folks money quickly, of course that is a federal clusterfuck... i think the bigger question is, why isn't BP paying the fisherman working on the clean up and why is the CEO saying people who are getting sick during the clean up may just have food poisoning... you can be angry at whoever you want, but Michael Moore and Kanye West... didn't create this and don't have to fix it... what you just said, would be like going to the eye doctor and complainnig you haven't been served any food by them...


Time out.

Do not forget who granted the permits to drill to BP.
That's right, the US Govt.
The US Govt permitting process holds these companies
liable for spills such as this.  
The permits also are supposed to have govt officials determine
before drilling, as well as during operation if a company
is operating correctly.  
There have been many reports since this tragedy that BP, along
with Trans Ocean were operating in a substandard manner.
All I am saying is why is not more being done by the likes
of Michael Moore, who made millions of dollars going after
companies such as GM, to investigate this?  Is not what BP did more
harmful than what GM ever did?

All I am saying is there was widespread assistance to
the people in these other tragedies almost instantly.
The only one I've seen coming forward here is Kevin Costner,
and he may have an ulterior motive.

These are hard working Americans on our soil who have been
and will be financially effected for decades to come.
I find it very ironic that given the enormity of this tragedy that
there is a lack of importance placed on this by the very movie
stars who have wined & dined their way thru the Gulf Coast
for decades.  Maybe I'm missing this, maybe celebs are doing
something, sorry to take up bandwidth if I have missed this.

Tell you what-I'll fly there to do something the same day you fly there.

In the meantime, I'm calling on friends/relatives to call your senators
and congressman's to demand The White House to start acting Presidential instead of
hosting parties at the White House, or worrying about which NBA team LeBron
plays for, and act daily on this disaster.  I would ask you consider doing the same.



you're upset michael morre isn't doing anything, or other famous people... i have heard you yourself, just recently bitch about stars using their starpower... is only when you deem they should...
are these your words or did you cut and paste that response from somewhere... looks familiar?
fyi... the white house is doing what they always have done in regards to PR sports ect... do you really need the presidnet to say things to make you feel more secure, or do you just want to complain about a guy you already didn't like... i'm just saying, there's a difference... you think this is about jobs and money? it's about life and the survival of life on this planet, which is created by and sustained by oceans... without that, were dead, and then you won't need to worry about jobs!


Go ahead & Google my words & phrases to find the articles I plagiarized.
I'll save you the time as I know you are a busy man.
I was fortunate enough to formulate these words on my own.
I'm a bit flattered you would hold my thoughts in such high regard!

Jobs & money=survival.
People who rely upon fishing in the Gulf, who fish within the closed off 32%
of the Gulf due to the BP spill are now out of work, where they have not been
able to eat for several days.  Next will come a spike in the suicide rate from
this as banks & other creditors will start to bear down.
So it will have a direct correlation to survival.

If your not too busy, pleas consider a call to your Senator or Congressman & tell them to get Party Boy
Obama's little ass out of the private theater screenings (held last night, did
you know?)  & down to the Gulf to do something.  And to answer your question, yes, I and the majority
of Americans feel he is not doing enough.
New polls released today indicate 66% of the population of the US are saying the Govt is
not doing enough about BP Oil spill.  This compared to 62% at it's highest
during Katrina.



i hope that got alot of govt. cheese for those folks, because i don't think they'll be fishing for another generation or so... you're now teling me that people are going to kill themselves? And they aren't getting food... because the presibet ain't doing enough... so, you're, a conservative, is calling for the feds to give people cash... okay. problem solved...i think... oh wait no, what you're talking about isn't the problem... it's the consequences of the problem... oil leak, envoirmental catastrophes is still ongoing... that is the problem... you keep on obama, that's really going to stop the leak and save the near dead ecosystem. just a sarcastic fyi... i know you're used to reactionary politicans and leaders who have great uniformed one line solutions that have no effect, but sure get people riled up... Obama isn't one of them, he is very smart and can actually multi-task... he actaully could read a book and chew gum... he's failing on many levels, no doubt... because no one did this before, and then he very unobjective critics scrutinizing things of no consequence, like what he had for lunch... what you don't know.. is who and how much he has done... like it would matter... you view is obtuse b/c you don't like him... and that doesn't stop the leak or help the envoirment. which is important to you, i hope....


You can spin my words all you want (how did that Google search work out for ya?)
I'm saying, so it will be clear:

1.  Suspend all environmental restrictions on the Gulf so as to allow items such
    as unlimited placement of sea berm to protect the marshlands.  We do not
    need to hear that the Gov't wants to study the impact of applying berm, or using
    sand as a deterrent to oil.

2.  Use FEMA authority to assist those individuals who have been placed out of
    business to operate their business.  Send all billing to BP & Trans Ocean.
    It's not as if FEMA assistance is a new thing.

     This is not a political assessment of Obama, it's not along party lines.
Some people would like to view it this way, truth is any President would be
in trouble on this.  It's just Obama is sinking quicker than most because of the
lack of leadership he's projecting.  He promised he could handle everything, remember?
It's getting pretty near close to a majority of Americans who feel he's not up to the task of this problem,
close to the majority who elected him.  It is his problem, yet he is still providing
the impression it's ok to party with Macca, so I guess he knows best.  All I can see
it's what the country is saying, and most feel he's detached from reality.

     Again, let's not think I'm the only one in this country who is advocating such
measures.

     In summary, I'm bringing forward facts.  These are abundantly available to
anyone.  I'm not here to convince anyone, the oil & it's damage will sadly impact everyone soon
enough, including you & I.

    So good luck to you Pdog.  You can choose your learning curve on what's happening
from your sources & I'll be choosing mine.  Here's to you & I things get better sooner than
later.  




haha, suspend all envoirmental restrictions... that is really bad... we already know BP is ppoisoning the gulf with chemical disperments and not actually cleainng up the spill... so we give them a free pass to pollute even more... we need to suck up the spill, not more polution... worst idea ever Nellie... no irnony lost that suspending restrictions on drilling, is what go us in this mess... i do like your second idea, although, there is one problem... most of the fishing is done independently... .having been an independent contractor for a long time myseelf, you don't pay unemeployment ins. or into disabilty, unless you want to... and income fluxiates... I lost money for months and moths after september 11th... there was no business, and I didn't get a check form the govt... it was fucked, so i found another source of income and rode it out... i'm not sure how the bueacracy works on this one... it's funny seeing a conservative take the liberal throwm money at it stance... and i'm sure if or when they do, you'll complain about that as a blind spending spree and a nanny state... BP needs to cut the checks now, the assets need to be seaized and people need to be in handcuffs... in a few years, they will be filing bankruptcy and those in charge will not held accountable... and about the chemical dispersemnt going on... that is why you have people in haz mat suits on the beaches and people getting sick... the oil is bad, but these chemicals are insane... this isn't about the federal govt., this is what hasppens when you let free market and unregualted industries do what they want... you like your cheap gas? really wasn't that cheap was it... there's a secondary cost. this is why the rest of the wrold pays so much... b/c they tax the fuck out of it, conserve and don't let the industry call the shots... oh, and many decided a long toime ago, to explore alterante sources using the money from taxes... big companies, big govt... you and i are big fucked... and the envoirment, our planet is being killed...

All the interviews with the mayors of the Parishes in Louisiana cited
the inability to work with the government towards approval of the various
oil prevention tactics they wanted to employ.  They knew how to handle
the incoming oil, had the manpower to do so in unemployed fisherman,but were faced with
Government impact studies to do so.  Sadly for these folks most of the marshes
they were looking to protect are ruined forever due to the stupid, arcane
Gov't impact studies.  This is fact.  This did not have to be this way.
So yes, for the good of what's left, assign a gov't overseer & give the
parishes what they want.  
The ironic item is some of the tactics BP has been using for chemical treatment
could be more harmful than if the berm was approved.



the mayors knew what to do? right... and the marshes are ruined because BP fucked up... you really want to beleive the consequences are someones fault besides the actual cause... there aren't may aspects of this, that anyone knows what to do... the only thing, i know can be done, is have tankers sucking up oil off the surface... that would mean diverting oil trade.... oh look, there an pink elephant in the room with an 800 lb gorrila... how about BP suspend its ad campaing and just pay the fishermen, and not have the govt. do it, and wait to get paid back? BP isn't even paying for the work being done, that you just mentioned... they are already trying to avoid that...
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Dog, there are countless videos & interviews
with these folks on all Cable networks showing these
mayors pleading for this assistance.  Documenting these very denials
by the govt.  This is all fact, this has happened.
It's all there for the eyes to see.
This is what James Carville, Obama's leading cheerleader
before this happened has also said.
This is not some fiction story.
Scientists have proven more needed to be done & fast.
I'm going away now, as there really is no furthering this
topic with you.
Good luck.



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Nellcote wrote on Jun 7th, 2010 at 3:44pm:
Dog, there are countless videos & interviews
with these folks on all Cable networks showing these
mayors pleading for this assistance.  Documenting these very denials
by the govt.  This is all fact, this has happened.
It's all there for the eyes to see.
This is what James Carville, Obama's leading cheerleader
before this happened has also said.
This is not some fiction story.
Scientists have proven more needed to be done & fast.
I'm going away now, as there really is no furthering this
topic with you.
Good luck.






allo ver the news, like how they covered the benefit concert, you wanted but didn't know about... from the getgo, i said... no one knows what to do, and everyone is gooing to be retro-experts as we learn what is actually happening...
bottom line is, our oil consumption and desire for cheap oil, came squarely into conflict with the oil industries greed and haste at getting to the oil... the billions they make monthly, and they weren't prepared for something like this... think about how much oil has hit the coast, and how long it has been coming out... and when it came ashore...  i understand you're worried about fishing jobs and some beaches... these areas are going to be gone, and the fish may never return  for generations... not only do i think your focus is in the wrong place, i don't think you really understand how bad this is... what's sad, is your gripe is that the president isn't micro managing the consequences of the worst thing to ever happen to this planet in modern human history.
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You think he slammed Obama, have you heard his views on BP and Trans Ocean? His gripe is Obama hasn't gone after them and shut them down... let's not lose focus and who caused this... this is wholesale murder they are getting away with... imagine if you went to the grocery store and they sent a a team to blow up your house... you think they'd be free and still doing business, or would they be in jail? Can the president even do anything to them besides some words, these guys are like the mafia... untouchable????
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i wake up everyday, sick to my stomach over this catastrophe... i get the same sad feeling seeing this, as i do seeing holocaust images or when the wtc was attacked... Obama should be holding a magaphone screaming we're going to get those who did this, and then we should shut down Cheveron!!! People seem so lost... no one is driving less or talking about energy alternatives...  I bet right now, people are trying to figure out how to salvage the oil leaked out and refine it and sell it... there's no solution oriented discussions... just talk of ineefective federal govt??? when were they ever effective to begin with?
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