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Pdog
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Nellcote wrote on Jun 7 th, 2010 at 3:20pm: Pdog wrote on Jun 7 th, 2010 at 3:03pm: Nellcote wrote on Jun 7 th, 2010 at 2:19pm: Pdog wrote on Jun 7 th, 2010 at 1:55pm: Nellcote wrote on Jun 7 th, 2010 at 1:32pm: Pdog wrote on Jun 7 th, 2010 at 1:00pm: Nellcote wrote on Jun 7 th, 2010 at 9:34am: Pdog wrote on Jun 7 th, 2010 at 9:20am: Nellcote wrote on Jun 7 th, 2010 at 8:59am: Where are all of the "Save The Gulf" concerts? Where are the celebs such as Sean Penn, Spike Lee, Kanye West? Is this not as important as the earthquake in Haiti? Where is Michael Moore asking the hard questions about BP & their operation? Why isn't FEMA not providing disaster relief to the fisherman who have lost their jobs from this disaster on Federal land?
sean penn has been non-stop working on haiti releif... why don't you organize a concert... is your job telling other people what they should be doing? you kinda sound like one of those do as i say, not as i do'er.... as much as i feel for those who are hit economically, ecologically is where all our efforts need to be focused... there is no economics if the envoirment is not the first priority, and guitars and concerts won't do too much to save animals choking on oil right now... until the leak is stopped... what are we going to do, give money to BP? Why is your anger focused on celebs... I don't know how FEMA works to get folks money quickly, of course that is a federal clusterfuck... i think the bigger question is, why isn't BP paying the fisherman working on the clean up and why is the CEO saying people who are getting sick during the clean up may just have food poisoning... you can be angry at whoever you want, but Michael Moore and Kanye West... didn't create this and don't have to fix it... what you just said, would be like going to the eye doctor and complainnig you haven't been served any food by them... Time out. Do not forget who granted the permits to drill to BP. That's right, the US Govt. The US Govt permitting process holds these companies liable for spills such as this. The permits also are supposed to have govt officials determine before drilling, as well as during operation if a company is operating correctly. There have been many reports since this tragedy that BP, along with Trans Ocean were operating in a substandard manner. All I am saying is why is not more being done by the likes of Michael Moore, who made millions of dollars going after companies such as GM, to investigate this? Is not what BP did more harmful than what GM ever did? All I am saying is there was widespread assistance to the people in these other tragedies almost instantly. The only one I've seen coming forward here is Kevin Costner, and he may have an ulterior motive. These are hard working Americans on our soil who have been and will be financially effected for decades to come. I find it very ironic that given the enormity of this tragedy that there is a lack of importance placed on this by the very movie stars who have wined & dined their way thru the Gulf Coast for decades. Maybe I'm missing this, maybe celebs are doing something, sorry to take up bandwidth if I have missed this. Tell you what-I'll fly there to do something the same day you fly there. In the meantime, I'm calling on friends/relatives to call your senators and congressman's to demand The White House to start acting Presidential instead of hosting parties at the White House, or worrying about which NBA team LeBron plays for, and act daily on this disaster. I would ask you consider doing the same. you're upset michael morre isn't doing anything, or other famous people... i have heard you yourself, just recently bitch about stars using their starpower... is only when you deem they should... are these your words or did you cut and paste that response from somewhere... looks familiar? fyi... the white house is doing what they always have done in regards to PR sports ect... do you really need the presidnet to say things to make you feel more secure, or do you just want to complain about a guy you already didn't like... i'm just saying, there's a difference... you think this is about jobs and money? it's about life and the survival of life on this planet, which is created by and sustained by oceans... without that, were dead, and then you won't need to worry about jobs! Go ahead & Google my words & phrases to find the articles I plagiarized. I'll save you the time as I know you are a busy man. I was fortunate enough to formulate these words on my own. I'm a bit flattered you would hold my thoughts in such high regard! Jobs & money=survival. People who rely upon fishing in the Gulf, who fish within the closed off 32% of the Gulf due to the BP spill are now out of work, where they have not been able to eat for several days. Next will come a spike in the suicide rate from this as banks & other creditors will start to bear down. So it will have a direct correlation to survival. If your not too busy, pleas consider a call to your Senator or Congressman & tell them to get Party Boy Obama's little ass out of the private theater screenings (held last night, did you know?) & down to the Gulf to do something. And to answer your question, yes, I and the majority of Americans feel he is not doing enough. New polls released today indicate 66% of the population of the US are saying the Govt is not doing enough about BP Oil spill. This compared to 62% at it's highest during Katrina. i hope that got alot of govt. cheese for those folks, because i don't think they'll be fishing for another generation or so... you're now teling me that people are going to kill themselves? And they aren't getting food... because the presibet ain't doing enough... so, you're, a conservative, is calling for the feds to give people cash... okay. problem solved...i think... oh wait no, what you're talking about isn't the problem... it's the consequences of the problem... oil leak, envoirmental catastrophes is still ongoing... that is the problem... you keep on obama, that's really going to stop the leak and save the near dead ecosystem. just a sarcastic fyi... i know you're used to reactionary politicans and leaders who have great uniformed one line solutions that have no effect, but sure get people riled up... Obama isn't one of them, he is very smart and can actually multi-task... he actaully could read a book and chew gum... he's failing on many levels, no doubt... because no one did this before, and then he very unobjective critics scrutinizing things of no consequence, like what he had for lunch... what you don't know.. is who and how much he has done... like it would matter... you view is obtuse b/c you don't like him... and that doesn't stop the leak or help the envoirment. which is important to you, i hope.... You can spin my words all you want (how did that Google search work out for ya?) I'm saying, so it will be clear: 1. Suspend all environmental restrictions on the Gulf so as to allow items such as unlimited placement of sea berm to protect the marshlands. We do not need to hear that the Gov't wants to study the impact of applying berm, or using sand as a deterrent to oil. 2. Use FEMA authority to assist those individuals who have been placed out of business to operate their business. Send all billing to BP & Trans Ocean. It's not as if FEMA assistance is a new thing. This is not a political assessment of Obama, it's not along party lines. Some people would like to view it this way, truth is any President would be in trouble on this. It's just Obama is sinking quicker than most because of the lack of leadership he's projecting. He promised he could handle everything, remember? It's getting pretty near close to a majority of Americans who feel he's not up to the task of this problem, close to the majority who elected him. It is his problem, yet he is still providing the impression it's ok to party with Macca, so I guess he knows best. All I can see it's what the country is saying, and most feel he's detached from reality. Again, let's not think I'm the only one in this country who is advocating such measures. In summary, I'm bringing forward facts. These are abundantly available to anyone. I'm not here to convince anyone, the oil & it's damage will sadly impact everyone soon enough, including you & I. So good luck to you Pdog. You can choose your learning curve on what's happening from your sources & I'll be choosing mine. Here's to you & I things get better sooner than later. haha, suspend all envoirmental restrictions... that is really bad... we already know BP is ppoisoning the gulf with chemical disperments and not actually cleainng up the spill... so we give them a free pass to pollute even more... we need to suck up the spill, not more polution... worst idea ever Nellie... no irnony lost that suspending restrictions on drilling, is what go us in this mess... i do like your second idea, although, there is one problem... most of the fishing is done independently... .having been an independent contractor for a long time myseelf, you don't pay unemeployment ins. or into disabilty, unless you want to... and income fluxiates... I lost money for months and moths after september 11th... there was no business, and I didn't get a check form the govt... it was fucked, so i found another source of income and rode it out... i'm not sure how the bueacracy works on this one... it's funny seeing a conservative take the liberal throwm money at it stance... and i'm sure if or when they do, you'll complain about that as a blind spending spree and a nanny state... BP needs to cut the checks now, the assets need to be seaized and people need to be in handcuffs... in a few years, they will be filing bankruptcy and those in charge will not held accountable... and about the chemical dispersemnt going on... that is why you have people in haz mat suits on the beaches and people getting sick... the oil is bad, but these chemicals are insane... this isn't about the federal govt., this is what hasppens when you let free market and unregualted industries do what they want... you like your cheap gas? really wasn't that cheap was it... there's a secondary cost. this is why the rest of the wrold pays so much... b/c they tax the fuck out of it, conserve and don't let the industry call the shots... oh, and many decided a long toime ago, to explore alterante sources using the money from taxes... big companies, big govt... you and i are big fucked... and the envoirment, our planet is being killed... All the interviews with the mayors of the Parishes in Louisiana cited the inability to work with the government towards approval of the various oil prevention tactics they wanted to employ. They knew how to handle the incoming oil, had the manpower to do so in unemployed fisherman,but were faced with Government impact studies to do so. Sadly for these folks most of the marshes they were looking to protect are ruined forever due to the stupid, arcane Gov't impact studies. This is fact. This did not have to be this way. So yes, for the good of what's left, assign a gov't overseer & give the parishes what they want. The ironic item is some of the tactics BP has been using for chemical treatment could be more harmful than if the berm was approved. the mayors knew what to do? right... and the marshes are ruined because BP fucked up... you really want to beleive the consequences are someones fault besides the actual cause... there aren't may aspects of this, that anyone knows what to do... the only thing, i know can be done, is have tankers sucking up oil off the surface... that would mean diverting oil trade.... oh look, there an pink elephant in the room with an 800 lb gorrila... how about BP suspend its ad campaing and just pay the fishermen, and not have the govt. do it, and wait to get paid back? BP isn't even paying for the work being done, that you just mentioned... they are already trying to avoid that...
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