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Reply #350 - Jun 2nd, 2010 at 11:03pm
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If ya can't lift your leg and piss with the big dogs then you can you sit in a puddle with the puppies for all I care.



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Reply #351 - Jun 2nd, 2010 at 11:18pm
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2000monkey wrote on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 11:03pm:
Riffhard wrote on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 9:17pm:


If ya can't lift your leg and piss with the big dogs then you can you sit in a puddle with the puppies for all I care.



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Funny, but I didn't vote for Obummer. Who's the stupid one now? Ya can't say I didn't try and warn you.



Do you really think things are doing better now that we have had to cope with 18 months of this leftist brand of idiocy? What's better now then when Bush was POTUS?

Let's see-


Economy? Nope.

Employment? Nope.

National Security? Nope.

Transparency and honest accountability from the White House? Nope.

Hope? Nope.

Change? Well, we certainly got that, but, is it better than what we had before? Uhh, hell Nope!


Meanwhile, at least we know that Obama is gonna keep his foot on the throat of BP! Yippee! That should do wonders for the marshlands, the recreational beaches, the commercial and private fishing businesses, the estuaries, rivers, and streams, the rookeries and hatcheries, and all of the wildlife. That's leadership for you!


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Reply #352 - Jun 3rd, 2010 at 12:00am
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Ya can't say I didn't try and warn you.


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Reply #353 - Jun 3rd, 2010 at 12:46am
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Ok,rather than get into another prolonged pissing contest with somebody and coming off as the world's biggest Obama apologist. Seriously,I think the best way to handle the cleanup. BP is still responsible for the leak. But as for the oil that's already in the gulf. Let the power's that be in the gulf states call their own shot's as to what to do about the cleanup. This is their land,their property,their livelihood. They know their territory better than anyone. If they want to build sandbar's,put boon's in a certain area. Or whatever idea they have. Let them do whatever they think is necessary and send the bill to BP. This is when the Govt needs to get the fuck out the way....Unfortunately everything is ruled by politics these days....And yes I'll admit,some of the current admins decsions are more than a little influenced by thinking ahead about how these states will go when in comes to reelection time.....But any other prez would likely act the same way.
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Reply #354 - Jun 3rd, 2010 at 3:46am
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pdizzle wrote- "You do know, there's no one on this planet, to stop it..."

That's some crazy shit right there. Everyone needs to try and wrap their head around that.
Politics, wars, economy take a back seat to that shit right there.
Did I hear Christmas maybe to stop it now? You've got to be fucking kidding me?


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Reply #355 - Jun 3rd, 2010 at 4:48am
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sweetcharmedlife wrote on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 12:46am:
Ok,rather than get into another prolonged pissing contest with somebody and coming off as the world's biggest Obama apologist. Seriously,I think the best way to handle the cleanup. BP is still responsible for the leak. But as for the oil that's already in the gulf. Let the power's that be in the gulf states call their own shot's as to what to do about the cleanup. This is their land,their property,their livelihood. They know their territory better than anyone. If they want to build sandbar's,put boon's in a certain area. Or whatever idea they have. Let them do whatever they think is necessary and send the bill to BP. This is when the Govt needs to get the fuck out the way....Unfortunately everything is ruled by politics these days....And yes I'll admit,some of the current admins decsions are more than a little influenced by thinking ahead about how these states will go when in comes to reelection time.....But any other prez would likely act the same way.

Great idea.  The problem-the Govt has not allowed these states to act on their own.  There are countless roadblocks which the Govt
has placed in States way.  The Govt wants environmental impact studies on most every oil prevention effort the States have attempted.
Little does the Govt know that the very environment which they want to protect is being destroyed by this needless red tape.  This is where the Govt needs to suspend regulations & act.  Don't forget, it was the Govt who granted the licenses to BP & Trans Ocean to drill in Gov't controlled water.  They need to hold BP & Trans Ocean to the tenants of these licenses for the impact of this disaster.  Presently, the Govt is acting like it will all just go away, where it really is going to get worse. 

Best thing each & every one of us can do=marshal an effort of our friends, neighbors, relatives to call your senator/congressman/White House to express how you feel & demand action.  This is going to effect our economy & our way of living.
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Reply #356 - Jun 3rd, 2010 at 7:32am
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Riffhard wrote on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 10:18pm:
Pdog wrote on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 9:45pm:
Riffhard wrote on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 9:17pm:
I don't think that anyone here is blaming Obummer for the leak. Or, for that matter in his inability to plug the damned thing. The blame is all about his ineptitude as a leader and a seemingly nonchalant attitude about it for the first 36 days of the leak. There seemed to be a total disconnect from the president as to the real urgency of the problem. Meanwhile, as Nellie points out, he's attending fundraisers, and waxing on about LeBron James and the NBA, in between rounds of golf.  

When he finally does come out and speak to the severity of the problem (day #36 for those keeping score) he does nothing but slam and threaten BP. His moron Interior Sec Ken Salazar says that the Administration is going to, "keep our boot on the neck of BP!" Eric Holder is touring the area and has announced his intention of pressing federal charges on BP and prosecuting "to the fullest extent of the law."

And for what?!?! We all know that BP is going to pay, and pay severely. Hell, they've already lost over $70 billion, and we're still counting. That's before all the civil, and class action suits that will certainly arise. This catastrophe may well destroy the company. We all know that. So why chase the damned ambulances now?!?!

Why is Bobby Jindal still waiting for licences to build sand berms?!?! Why has he had to wait for over a month for some goddamned booms?!?!?! Could it be that Jindal is vocally critical of Obama's agenda? Cynical perhaps, but this president has made it abundantly clear that he has zero respect, and total contempt for anyone that dosen't share his socialist vision for the country. I'm just sayin'.


There has been a severe lack of leadership on display since day one, and that anyone would try and deny that fact is pretty odd.


I wish I could say that I was surprised by his glaring incompetence, but I always knew that Barry was nothing more than a hard left community organizer with zero real world experience.



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a few of us here been talking about the leak for over a month, guess you're like Obama, since you just showed up and late too, and had nothing constructive or helpful either...  you, like him just talk alot and try to sound all important... do you say "um" alot too? When BP lied and said it wasn't that bad in the begining... and said they could fix it... i had no idea socialists were out to destroy the envoirment...
looks like fuman quit the board, does that mean you won't ever post your foul attack posts? YAY!!!



Quick and concise rebuttal if I may.


Firstly, I am not the damned president. I, posting on a message board, have zero ability to stop the leak, or lead the cleanup process anymore than the people who have been posting on this thread since day one have, or Obama has, for that matter. Obummer's handling of this mess makes Bush's handling of Katrina look down right brilliant by comparison.  


Secondly, I am not the one making any attacks. You seem to be the one that can't let go of the anger. I am only angry that we have an incompetent boob running the show. The same people who were so quick to slam Bush for everything seem to turn a blind eye to the piss poor job that Barry has done over the last 18 months. This leak is merely the latest example of his total lack of leadership, and hands off approach to handling the nation's problems.


Thirdly, your complete one sided view of funman's own attacks are pretty telling. The guy constantly slammed people of faith, and his last attack (and it was an attack), of the military was just enough to get me to call him out harshly. That I chose to kill a knat with a howitzer is of no consequence to me. I have since tuned a new leaf as I posted in an earlier post. I'd hate to see him leave (really!) but that's not a choice that I made for him.

If ya can't lift your leg and piss with the big dogs then you can you sit in a puddle with the puppies for all I care.



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you're so rude... i'm angry, but you anger towrds him was justified... show me where I went off on anyone. Who brought hostile politics tothis thread... your posting is like the oil leak, it fould up this place.
The leak exists b/c BP wasn't safe and didn't care and the people who were supposed to watchover are people appointed from the industry or end up being buddy's with them, so no oversight or safety regualtions. There's also no plan for accidents like this none. We might as well have an astroid heading towards us. Human abuse of this planet and use of oil lead to this... nothing else, it's not poltical, it's behavioral... and the only way to fix it, is for people to change, and you are not willing to change your energy use. You've made that clear before... so shut up, and enjoy the crummy dirty planet you get to have heat and AC and drive your car on... nothing there has anything to do with politics... and your ranting is just boring and not worth reading, i've read it all before... and your rudenss is just lame... you're still bitching about Fuman and he is gone... but you're not angry, it is me who is...
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Reply #357 - Jun 3rd, 2010 at 7:55am
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TRANSOCEAN... the people who brought you this epic disaster....


Accidents and incidents

[edit]Ixtoc I oil spill
Main article: Ixtoc I oil spill
On 3 June 1979, an exploratory well being drilled by the semi-submersible, Sedco 135-F on lease to Pemex, blew out in the Bahia de Campeche in the Gulf of Mexico after losing drilling mud circulation. The well ignited, and the burning platform collapsed into the sea over the wellhead causing the largest peace-time oil spill by the time it was capped on 23 March 1980.[17]
[edit]Transocean Leader accident
On March 2 2002, a Scottish man was killed in an accident aboard the drilling rig, Transocean Leader operated for BP, located about 86 miles west of Aberdeen, Scotland.[18]
[edit]Galveston Bay explosion
On June 17 2003, one worker was killed, four were hospitalized and 21 were rescued after an explosion on a Transocean gas drilling rig in Galveston Bay, Texas.[19]
[edit]Transocean Rather
On August 24 2005, the UK Health and Safety Executive issued a notice to Transocean that it had failed to maintain its “remote blow Out preventor control panel … in an efficient state, efficient working order and in good repair.” On November 21 2005, the Transocean was found to be in compliance for this matter.[20]
[edit]Bourbon Dolphin/Transocean Rather accident
On April 12 2007, the Bourbon Dolphin supply boat sank off the coast of Scotland while it was servicing the Transocean Rather drilling rig, killed eight people. The Norwegian Ministry of Justice established a Commission of Inquiry to investigate the incident, and the commission’s report found a series of "unfortunate circumstances" led to the accident “with many of them linked to Bourbon Offshore and Transocean.” [21][22]
[edit]2008 fatalities
Two of its workers were reported killed on Transocean vessels in 2008.[23]
[edit]Deepwater Horizon drilling rig explosion
Main article: Deepwater Horizon drilling rig explosion
On April 21, 2010, a fire was reported on a Transocean-owned semisubmersible drilling rig, Deepwater Horizon, made by Hyundai Heavy Industries in Ulsan, South Korea. Deepwater Horizon was a Reading & Bates Falcon RBS8D design, a firm that was acquired by Transocean in 2001. The fire broke out at 10:00 p.m. UTC-7 in US waters of Mississippi Canyon 252 in the Gulf of Mexico. The rig was 41 mi (66 km) off Louisiana coast. The US Coast Guard launched a rescue operation after the explosion, and of the 126 member crew aboard, 11 were killed and seven were critically injured.[24][25] Deepwater Horizon was completely destroyed, and subsequently sank.
As the Deepwater Horizon sank the riser pipe that connected the well-head to the rig was severed and as a result oil began to leak into the Gulf of Mexico. Estimates of the leak were in the range of 5,000 to 19,000 barrels per day.
Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal declared a state of emergency Thursday April 29, as the oil slick grew and headed toward the most important and most sensitive wetlands in North America, threatening to destroy wildlife and the livelihood of thousands of fishermen. This oil slick is considered the largest offshore spill in U.S. history. The head of BP Group told CNN's Brian Todd on April 28 that the accident could have been prevented, and focused blame on rig owner Transocean.[26] On May 14, 2010 U.S. president Barack Obama stated "...executives of BP and Transocean and Halliburton falling over each other to point the finger of blame at somebody else," when referring to the congressional hearings held during the continued flow of oil in the Gulf of Mexico resulting from an oil rig platform explosion. "The American people could not have been impressed with that display, and I certainly wasn't."
[edit]Industry reputation
Transocean was rated as a leader in its industry for many years, however, since its merger with GlobalSantaFe in 2007, its reputation has suffered considerably, according to Energy Point Research, an independent oil service industry rating firm. From 2004 to 2007, Transocean was the leader or near the top among deep-water drillers for "job quality" and "overall satisfaction." In 2008 and 2009, surveys ranked Transocean last among deep-water drillers for "job quality" and next to last in "overall satisfaction." In 2008 and 2009, the firm ranked first for in-house safety and environmental policies, and in the middle of the pack for perceived environmental and safety record. [27] The Deepwater Horizon explosion and massive oil spill starting in April 2010, has further hurt its reputation. “Transocean is dominant, but the accident has definitely tarnished its reputation for worker safety and for being able to manage and deliver on extraordinarily complex deepwater projects,” said Christopher Ruppel, an energy expert and managing director of capital markets at Execution Noble, an investment bank. Transocean spokespeople declined to comment on the firm's reputation.[4]
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Reply #358 - Jun 3rd, 2010 at 8:01am
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Transocean has also made it so ,they avoid paying their fair share of taxes, yet recieve huge amounts of money from the fed, in terms of what "we" do for them... the cost of gas, the hidden costs are huge...
ask yourself, why aren't they paying 35% tax on their earning, since they make tons of money using the federal waters for the rigs they supply? but not only that, with all the money they don't pay in taxes, they use that to hire lobbyists and hget people apointed to regulatory positions in the govt. so they help set the policies on enery and all the oversight... you want  politics... there's your politcs... and the right is concerned that some poor folks somewhere are getting free healthcare... sick people, sick envoirment and a few people destroying it for profit with no one to stop them... I think your peiorities are all screwed up...
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This was supposed to be the summer of new Stones not oil disaster.
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This was supposed to be the summer of new Stones not oil disaster.



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This was supposed to be the summer of new Stones not oil disaster.



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Some Guy wrote on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 8:11am:
This was supposed to be the summer of new Stones not oil disaster.



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not bad...


I just heard the cut worked and a cap may get put on?
BP also needs to pay these, fisherman they hired to do clean up people, NOW...
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Another heartbreaking consequence of this disaster:




Donated pet food on way to help oil spill-impacted coastal Louisiana residents care for their animals
By The Times-Picayune
June 03, 2010, 3:18PM

A truck loaded with donated dog and cat food is scheduled to arrive in Belle Chasse this afternoon to help coastal Louisiana pet owners struggling with economic hardship due to the Gulf oil spill, the Humane Society of the United States said.

The animal group coordinated the donation of 12 tons of dog and cat food from Mars Petcare U.S. and a third of a ton of dog food from The Humane Choice Company, the news release said.

The food will be turned over to Plaquemines Parish's Department of Health and Animal Control, where staff members and volunteers will distrbute it to residents in areas of coastal Louisiana affected by the BP spill.

"The Humane Society of the United States was saddened to hear that animals inland from the shoreline are also suffering from this disaster," said Julia Breaux, the Humane Society's Louisiana director. She said the donated food would help pet owners continue caring for their animals rather than have to give them up.

Breaux said she got word from Susan Sampey of the Plaquemines Parish Animal Welfare Society that there had been an increase of owners giving their animals to area shelters because of economic hardship related to the oil spill.

In the news release, Plaquemines Parish President Billy Nungesser said the donation would be a big help to area residents suffering economic hardship due to the oil spill.

http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/06/donated_pet_food_on_wa...
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Donated pet food on way to help oil spill-impacted coastal Louisiana residents care for their animals
By The Times-Picayune
June 03, 2010, 3:18PM

A truck loaded with donated dog and cat food is scheduled to arrive in Belle Chasse this afternoon to help coastal Louisiana pet owners struggling with economic hardship due to the Gulf oil spill, the Humane Society of the United States said.

The animal group coordinated the donation of 12 tons of dog and cat food from Mars Petcare U.S. and a third of a ton of dog food from The Humane Choice Company, the news release said.

The food will be turned over to Plaquemines Parish's Department of Health and Animal Control, where staff members and volunteers will distrbute it to residents in areas of coastal Louisiana affected by the BP spill.

"The Humane Society of the United States was saddened to hear that animals inland from the shoreline are also suffering from this disaster," said Julia Breaux, the Humane Society's Louisiana director. She said the donated food would help pet owners continue caring for their animals rather than have to give them up.

Breaux said she got word from Susan Sampey of the Plaquemines Parish Animal Welfare Society that there had been an increase of owners giving their animals to area shelters because of economic hardship related to the oil spill.

In the news release, Plaquemines Parish President Billy Nungesser said the donation would be a big help to area residents suffering economic hardship due to the oil spill.

http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/06/donated_pet_food_on_wa...



as far as I know, these animals have never worked or paid taxes, and just expect free food... sometimes these aimals will return affection to humans, so they are more like 4 legged hookers... whores looking for handouts!!!
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Reply #366 - Jun 3rd, 2010 at 9:28pm
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Edith Grove wrote on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 4:59pm:
Another heartbreaking consequence of this disaster:




Donated pet food on way to help oil spill-impacted coastal Louisiana residents care for their animals
By The Times-Picayune
June 03, 2010, 3:18PM

A truck loaded with donated dog and cat food is scheduled to arrive in Belle Chasse this afternoon to help coastal Louisiana pet owners struggling with economic hardship due to the Gulf oil spill, the Humane Society of the United States said.

The animal group coordinated the donation of 12 tons of dog and cat food from Mars Petcare U.S. and a third of a ton of dog food from The Humane Choice Company, the news release said.

The food will be turned over to Plaquemines Parish's Department of Health and Animal Control, where staff members and volunteers will distrbute it to residents in areas of coastal Louisiana affected by the BP spill.

"The Humane Society of the United States was saddened to hear that animals inland from the shoreline are also suffering from this disaster," said Julia Breaux, the Humane Society's Louisiana director. She said the donated food would help pet owners continue caring for their animals rather than have to give them up.

Breaux said she got word from Susan Sampey of the Plaquemines Parish Animal Welfare Society that there had been an increase of owners giving their animals to area shelters because of economic hardship related to the oil spill.

In the news release, Plaquemines Parish President Billy Nungesser said the donation would be a big help to area residents suffering economic hardship due to the oil spill.

http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2010/06/donated_pet_food_on_wa...



as far as I know, these animals have never worked or paid taxes, and just expect free food... sometimes these aimals will return affection to humans, so they are more like 4 legged hookers... whores looking for handouts!!!

I agree with you RiffDog taylor made smile
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Who's the stupid one now?
 
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Riffy,

Thanks for asking.

It is stupid to believe that a pragmatic, accomodationist moderate progressive like Barack Obama is a doctrinaire socialist.

It is stupid to believe that human-caused global warming is a myth created to generate research funds.

It is stupid to believe that Sarah Palin is qualified to be President; or even a shaky, septuagenarian heartbeat away.

It is stupid to believe that Mark Levin is a constitutional scholar.

Drill, baby, drill?  Stupid.

It is stupid to believe that Big Oil should be trusted to drill a mile below the surface.

It is stupid to blame Barack for Cheney's Petro-Katrina.

It is stupid to call people stupid names like "drone" (and all the worse ones) because we don't always agree with you.  Intelligent people can disagree without being disagreeable.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Looking for a learning curve,

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Reply #368 - Jun 3rd, 2010 at 11:07pm
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Riffhard wrote on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 11:18pm:
Who's the stupid one now?
 
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Riffy,

Thanks for asking.

It is stupid to believe that a pragmatic, accomodationist moderate progressive like Barack Obama is a doctrinaire socialist.

It is stupid to believe that human-caused global warming is a myth created to generate research funds.

It is stupid to believe that Sarah Palin is qualified to be President; or even a shaky, septuagenarian heartbeat away.

It is stupid to believe that Mark Levin is a constitutional scholar.

Drill, baby, drill?  Stupid.

It is stupid to believe that Big Oil should be trusted to drill a mile below the surface.

It is stupid to blame Barack for Cheney's Petro-Katrina.

It is stupid to call people stupid names like "drone" (and all the worse ones) because we don't always agree with you.  Intelligent people can disagree without being disagreeable.

Stupid is as stupid does.

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that is brilliant and gave me the best little (should I say smug) giggle I have had in sometime... best part, is disagreeing, without being disagreeable... this is how you can respond, without being foul or attacking... my hat is off to you brainy.
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Starbuck wrote on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 11:01pm:
you make less sense with each passing post.



You used to be funny. Now all you do is stir shit. Why, Why, Why, why.............
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Pdog wrote on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 9:45pm:

looks like fuman quit the board, does that mean you won't ever post your foul attack posts? YAY!!!




I hope Fuman didn't quit. Though if he did I would understand.  You can only deal with so much white trash before you realize it's all in vain. . really?
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Reply #371 - Jun 4th, 2010 at 10:28am
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Now this is some funny twisted logic and warped blame... I am so glad this person isn't a politician anymore... I really like the end, where she forgot who once employed her husband, must've not noted on her hand...

ENJOY, Idiots Rule!!!

n her latest note on Facebook, Sarah Palin is blaming "extreme 'environmentalists'" for causing the gulf oil disaster that has been unfolding for over a month. Her logic is that because environmentalists push for tougher drilling regulations onshore in places like the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (also known as ANWR) it forces oil companies to explore deeper offshore drilling which has more risks.

Palin writes:

With [environmentalists'] nonsensical efforts to lock up safer drilling areas, all you're doing is outsourcing energy development, which makes us more controlled by foreign countries, less safe, and less prosperous on a dirtier planet. Your hypocrisy is showing. You're not preventing environmental hazards; you're outsourcing them and making drilling more dangerous.
Extreme deep water drilling is not the preferred choice to meet our country's energy needs, but your protests and lawsuits and lies about onshore and shallow water drilling have locked up safer areas. It's catching up with you. The tragic, unprecedented deep water Gulf oil spill proves it.

You can read her full note on Facebook here. http://www.facebook.com/notes/sarah-palin/extreme-enviros-drill-baby-drill-in-an...


This is one of several comments about the oil spill Palin has made that has caused a stir, including a tweet in which she said we said we shouldn't trust BP because it is a foreign oil company. Palin's husband Todd worked for BP for 18 years.
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Reply #372 - Jun 4th, 2010 at 10:50am
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2000monkey wrote on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 12:00am:
Riffhard wrote on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 11:18pm:
Ya can't say I didn't try and warn you.


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That's great. Is that Riffy behind her? Kiss
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2000monkey wrote on Jun 3rd, 2010 at 12:00am:
Riffhard wrote on Jun 2nd, 2010 at 11:18pm:
Ya can't say I didn't try and warn you.


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That's great. Is that Riffy behind her? Kiss



Louisiana isn't the only place that has shrimp, said BP Rep Randy Prescott. His office number is (713) 323-4093 and his email is [email protected]. Call him or email him.
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Reply #374 - Jun 4th, 2010 at 11:34am
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The Justice Department considers criminal prosecutions related to the Gulf oil spill
By Saulius Mikalonis
June 02, 2010, 10:27AM
"If there were no bad people there would be no good lawyers."  - Charles Dickens

On June 1, 2010, the United States Attorney General Eric Holder announced that the Justice Department would begin a criminal investigation relating to the ongoing release of hundreds of thousands of gallons of oil in the Gulf of Mexico.  This should come as no surprise, given the conflicting reports about how this accident occurred.  In fact, one BP employee has reportedly invoked his constitutional right against self-recrimination under the Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution during testimony before a federal panel investigating the environmental disaster unfolding in our southern waters.

While the most pressing matter for the United States Government and BP is to stem the flow of oil into the Gulf, numerous private lawsuits have already been filed against BP and others.  Enterprising attorneys have set up informational websites concerning the oil spill, like this one or this one, perhaps hoping to direct potential plaintiffs to their law firms.  It is not out of the realm of possibility that BP may be facing public and private liability in the tens of billions of dollars.

According to the Justice Department, its lawyers are looking at a variety of statutes to determine if criminal suits against those responsible for the explosion at the Deepwater Horizon rig and subsequent continuing release of oil are appropriate.  The most obvious potential criminal prosecutions would be based on the criminal provisions of the Clean Water Act and the Oil Pollution Act of 1990.   Under the Clean Water Act (and the Oil Pollution Act), criminal penalties for negligent violations bring $2,500 to $25,000 per day fines and imprisonment of up to one year.  "Knowing" violations of the Act can expose a defendant to $5,000 to $50,000 per day fines and up to three years of prison.  In addition, the Clean Water Act has significant penalties for "knowing endangerment", that is placing a person in imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury, which carries with it fines up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to 15 years.

Federal prosecutors will also look at statutes that protect wildlife for potential criminal charges, like the Migratory Bird Treaty Act and the Endangered Species Act.  Also, while environmental statutes will likely be the basis of any future criminal enforcement efforts, recall that eleven workers on the rig died when it exploded on April 20.  There are federal criminal penalties for negligent and reckless homicide that may also apply to these set of facts.

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