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Anything Kinks at RO .... part 6B
Apr 19th, 2010 at 9:29am
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The Kinks fekkin' rock...admit it, fer chrissakes.

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anyone seeing ray on tour? any news? the choral album good? no more strokes for dave?

uncleson, wanna tell us the story again of how mick almost killed dave with the symbol?

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Reply #1 - Apr 19th, 2010 at 9:44am
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Can't quite put my finger on it, but i have always love the song "Catch Me Now, I'm Falling"

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can't quite put my finger on it, but i love "i need you"!

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Paranoid Android wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 9:44am:
Can't quite put my finger on it, but i have always love the song "Catch Me Now, I'm Falling"

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Paranoid Android wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 9:44am:
Can't quite put my finger on it, but i have always love the song "Catch Me Now, I'm Falling"

Grin

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But it's allllllll riiiiiiiight nowww.. in fact it's a..

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Discussing the travesty of Catch Me Now I'm Falling is no way to start a Kinks love-fest. 

New subject: has any group ever so explicitly told the story -- much less such a great story -- of their relationship with their management?

Robert owes half to Grenville, who in turn gave half to Larry
Who adored my instrumentals, and so he gave half to a foreign publisher
She took half the money that was earned in some far distant land
Gave back half to Larry and I end up with half of goodness knows what
Oh can somebody explain why things go on this way
I thought they were my friends I can't believe it's me, I can't believe that I'm so green
Eyes down round and round let's all sit and watch the moneygoround
Everyone take a little bit here and a little bit there
Do they all deserve money from a song that they've never heard?
They don't know the tune and they don't know the words
But they don't give a damn
There's no end to it I'm in a pit and I'm stuck in it
The money goes round and around and around
And it comes out here when they've all taken their share
I went to see a solicitor and my story was heard and the writs were served
On the verge of a nervous breakdown I decided to fight right to the end
But if I ever get my money I'll be too old and grey to spend it
Oh, but life goes on and on and no one ever wins
And time goes quickly by just like the moneygoround
I only hope that I'll survive

Great fucking song. 

Avory threw a "symbol" at Dave?  Starbuck have you been drinking?  Or are you using cymablism?
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Avory threw a "symbol" at Dave?  Starbuck have you been drinking?  Or are you using cymablism?


very few artists that reach the level of stardom the kinks did hated each other as much....or so that's my limited understanding. from "kindakinks.net":
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Along with drummer Mick Avory and bassist Pete Quaife, Dave sails through the sixties in "X-Ray" like the ebullient. over-sexed teenager that he undoubtedly was. Always ready with a sly quip, always game for a barney, he had his head slashed with a cymbal by Avory onstage at the Capital Cinema in Cardiff one night in May 1965. Dave had taunted Avory beyond the point of endurance by kicking his drum-kit across the stage. The blood flowed accordingly. While Dave was being bandaged up and consoled, Avory was running through the Welsh streets, convinced he had committed murder.

"The incident with Dave and Mick horrified me", says Davies. "I was scared it was going to happen again. Seeing people reduced to that level and talking to the police afterwards who wanted to arrest Mick for GBH. It was a pretty horrible time." Avory was still in the band 16 years later when, at a concert in Long Island, Dave insulted him in front of the audience. The drummer walked off, flinging his sticks at the guitarist. Davies explained to the crowd with magnificent sang-froid: "I think our drummer's just had a phone call." At the Santa Monica Auditorium in March 1977, Dave spat in the face of each member of the band in turn, before walking offstage.

"Spitting isn't Dave's worst point", reflects his older brother pensively. "The funniest, and potentially most harrowing thing was when we were playing this very sedate outdoor gig in Santa Barbara. I said something about him onstage. I heard a noise, a whistling sound, and I saw a Fender Stratocaster hurtling through the air. It just missed me. I was so angry I threw my guitar at the drum kit."
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Reply #7 - Apr 19th, 2010 at 11:49am
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Zack wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 11:18am:
Discussing the travesty of Catch Me Now I'm Falling is no way to start a Kinks love-fest.  

New subject: has any group ever so explicitly told the story -- much less such a great story -- of their relationship with their management?

Robert owes half to Grenville, who in turn gave half to Larry
Who adored my instrumentals, and so he gave half to a foreign publisher
She took half the money that was earned in some far distant land
Gave back half to Larry and I end up with half of goodness knows what
Oh can somebody explain why things go on this way
I thought they were my friends I can't believe it's me, I can't believe that I'm so green
Eyes down round and round let's all sit and watch the moneygoround
Everyone take a little bit here and a little bit there
Do they all deserve money from a song that they've never heard?
They don't know the tune and they don't know the words
But they don't give a damn
There's no end to it I'm in a pit and I'm stuck in it
The money goes round and around and around
And it comes out here when they've all taken their share
I went to see a solicitor and my story was heard and the writs were served
On the verge of a nervous breakdown I decided to fight right to the end
But if I ever get my money I'll be too old and grey to spend it
Oh, but life goes on and on and no one ever wins
And time goes quickly by just like the moneygoround
I only hope that I'll survive

Great fucking song.  

Avory threw a "symbol" at Dave?  Starbuck have you been drinking?  Or are you using cymablism?



MoneyGoRound IS a great f-ing song indeed. I also like Get Back In The Line, which is about the music industry as well . . .
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Starbuck wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 11:45am:
Zack wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 11:18am:
Avory threw a "symbol" at Dave?  Starbuck have you been drinking?  Or are you using cymablism?


very few artists that reach the level of stardom the kinks did hated each other as much....or so that's my limited understanding.


from some messageboard:

"In 1977, the Kinks released a single called 'Father Christmas', just in time for the Holidays. Of course, true to Mr. Ray Davies, the song was quite cynical about Christmas and thus didn't sell very well.

Anyway, in mid-December that year, the Kinks did a special Christmas show in London. During this period, they would usually finish off the shows with 'You Really Got Me'. But, for this special show, they decided to ditch that song all together and instead do 'Father Christmas' as the final encore. Ray also came up with the brilliant idea that, in true yuletide spirit, he would dress up as Santa Claus for that one song.

So, the idea was that, before the final encore, Ray would quickly change into his Santa outfit backstage while the other guys walked on stage. Then, with everyone set, Ray would make his grand entrance as Santa Claus and the band would launch into the song.

However, Dave decided to pull a little improvised prank on his brother. As soon as Dave saw Ray enter the stage dressed up as Santa, he instead went into the familiar opening riff to 'You Really Got Me'. The band followed suite and the audience went crazy. Ray was completely dumbfounded. Here he was in full Santa Claus costume, expecting to do his his biting ode to Christmas and instead having to sing 'You Really Got Me' from under his fake beard. He had no choice but to play along. Every once in a while, Ray looked over to his brother, snarling and sneering. The audience didn't know what was going on - they probably just thought it was a seasonal gesture on Ray's part. His way of saying 'merry Christmas'.

As soon as they got off stage, Ray exploded - hurling insults and names at his brother, finishing it all off with throwing his beard at him.

As Dave writes in his autobiography, he had never 'had a Santa Claus call me a fucking cunt before'."
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MrPleasant wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 11:51am:
Starbuck wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 11:45am:
Zack wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 11:18am:
Avory threw a "symbol" at Dave?  Starbuck have you been drinking?  Or are you using cymablism?


very few artists that reach the level of stardom the kinks did hated each other as much....or so that's my limited understanding.


from some messageboard:

"In 1977, the Kinks released a single called 'Father Christmas', just in time for the Holidays. Of course, true to Mr. Ray Davies, the song was quite cynical about Christmas and thus didn't sell very well.

Anyway, in mid-December that year, the Kinks did a special Christmas show in London. During this period, they would usually finish off the shows with 'You Really Got Me'. But, for this special show, they decided to ditch that song all together and instead do 'Father Christmas' as the final encore. Ray also came up with the brilliant idea that, in true yuletide spirit, he would dress up as Santa Claus for that one song.

So, the idea was that, before the final encore, Ray would quickly change into his Santa outfit backstage while the other guys walked on stage. Then, with everyone set, Ray would make his grand entrance as Santa Claus and the band would launch into the song.

However, Dave decided to pull a little improvised prank on his brother. As soon as Dave saw Ray enter the stage dressed up as Santa, he instead went into the familiar opening riff to 'You Really Got Me'. The band followed suite and the audience went crazy. Ray was completely dumbfounded. Here he was in full Santa Claus costume, expecting to do his his biting ode to Christmas and instead having to sing 'You Really Got Me' from under his fake beard. He had no choice but to play along. Every once in a while, Ray looked over to his brother, snarling and sneering. The audience didn't know what was going on - they probably just thought it was a seasonal gesture on Ray's part. His way of saying 'merry Christmas'.

As soon as they got off stage, Ray exploded - hurling insults and names at his brother, finishing it all off with throwing his beard at him.

As Dave writes in his autobiography, he had never 'had a Santa Claus call me a fucking cunt before'."



Great story !!

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anyone know where i could get some good kinks posters? or stones posters for that matter? like the kind you used to buy in record stores...for $8 or so. allposters.com ain't got no kinks!
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Reply #11 - Apr 19th, 2010 at 3:53pm
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This early Kinks B-side is wonderful.

A little bit of trivia: Shel Talmy didn't rate Mick Avory in the early days and thus we have ace session drummer Bobby Graham on the sticks. In fact, he performed on most of their 64-65 recordings, apparently.


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Reply #12 - Apr 20th, 2010 at 4:30pm
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Zack wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 11:18am:
Discussing the travesty of Catch Me Now I'm Falling is no way to start a Kinks love-fest.  

New subject: has any group ever so explicitly told the story -- much less such a great story -- of their relationship with their management?

Robert owes half to Grenville, who in turn gave half to Larry
Who adored my instrumentals, and so he gave half to a foreign publisher
She took half the money that was earned in some far distant land
Gave back half to Larry and I end up with half of goodness knows what
Oh can somebody explain why things go on this way
I thought they were my friends I can't believe it's me, I can't believe that I'm so green
Eyes down round and round let's all sit and watch the moneygoround
Everyone take a little bit here and a little bit there
Do they all deserve money from a song that they've never heard?
They don't know the tune and they don't know the words
But they don't give a damn
There's no end to it I'm in a pit and I'm stuck in it
The money goes round and around and around
And it comes out here when they've all taken their share
I went to see a solicitor and my story was heard and the writs were served
On the verge of a nervous breakdown I decided to fight right to the end
But if I ever get my money I'll be too old and grey to spend it
Oh, but life goes on and on and no one ever wins
And time goes quickly by just like the moneygoround
I only hope that I'll survive

Great fucking song.  

Avory threw a "symbol" at Dave?  Starbuck have you been drinking?  Or are you using cymablism?


The album, Lola vs Powerman and the Moneygoround has some great material on it that you'll love: Powerman, Lola, Top Of The Pops, This Time Tomorrow, Long Way From Home, Rats, Strangers, Apeman, Denmark Street...and of course The Moneygoround.

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Lola vs. Powerman, Muswell Hillbillies, Arthur, Village Green Preservation Society and Something Else are all essential.  Those five and Greatest Hits for the early stuff is a good foundation.  I also like Celluloid Heroes.  Ray Davies is an extraordinary songwriter.
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Let's also give props to Dave Davies, who wrote some real gems like Love Me Till The Sun Shines, Death of a Clown, Strangers, and his magnum opus, Livin' on a Thin Line.

He's also the guy who, at age 17, sang "I want a lot out of life but I know my limitations."

Let's also remember how flamboyant a kid he was, dressing in thigh-high boots and wearing a sword and buckler into bars.  Not to mention this extraordinary hat, which just so goes with his Gibson Flying V.

And some of his guitar work, like the solo on House in the Country when he was still 19, or the bridge of the Hard Way, or the spectacular bombast of the opening of Celluloid Heroes on the 1980 live album.

Not to mention his interest in extraterrestrials and neo-buddhist metaphysical intelligences.  One cosmic dude!
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Zack wrote on Apr 21st, 2010 at 7:34am:
Let's also give props to Dave Davies, who wrote some real gems like Love Me Till The Sun Shines, Death of a Clown, Strangers, and his magnum opus, Livin' on a Thin Line.

He's also the guy who, at age 17, sang "I want a lot out of life but I know my limitations."

Let's also remember how flamboyant a kid he was, dressing in thigh-high boots and wearing a sword and buckler into bars.  Not to mention this extraordinary hat, which just so goes with his Gibson Flying V.

And some of his guitar work, like the solo on House in the Country when he was still 19, or the bridge of the Hard Way, or the spectacular bombast of the opening of Celluloid Heroes on the 1980 live album.

Not to mention his interest in extraterrestrials and neo-buddhist metaphysical intelligences.  One cosmic dude!

Don't forget Trust Your Heart froim Misfits. Love the way Dave screams that one out.
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Zack wrote on Apr 21st, 2010 at 7:34am:
Let's also give props to Dave Davies, who wrote some real gems like Love Me Till The Sun Shines, Death of a Clown, Strangers, and his magnum opus, Livin' on a Thin Line.

He's also the guy who, at age 17, sang "I want a lot out of life but I know my limitations."

Let's also remember how flamboyant a kid he was, dressing in thigh-high boots and wearing a sword and buckler into bars.  Not to mention this extraordinary hat, which just so goes with his Gibson Flying V.

And some of his guitar work, like the solo on House in the Country when he was still 19, or the bridge of the Hard Way, or the spectacular bombast of the opening of Celluloid Heroes on the 1980 live album.

Not to mention his interest in extraterrestrials and neo-buddhist metaphysical intelligences.  One cosmic dude!

Don't forget Trust Your Heart froim Misfits. Love the Dave screams that one out.


and susannah's still alive. the most garbledest song in rock history is a gem!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUJ5A2932B4&feature=related
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Also forgot Mindless Child of Motherhood.  Another great one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dzbk-BPTHpE

Also, This Man He Weeps Tonight

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soundtrack to percy?

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Starbuck wrote on Apr 19th, 2010 at 3:11pm:
anyone know where i could get some good kinks posters? or stones posters for that matter? like the kind you used to buy in record stores...for $8 or so. allposters.com ain't got no kinks!

Target has Stones magnetic grocery shopping lists and tongue magnets. Thanks
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I'm still hoping for the long rumored reunion tour.


It's not going to happen. Perhaps a one-off show at best (RAH is favoured).
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me and Mick Avory from a couple of weeks ago....great bloke, great drummer.

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he plays drums in The Kast-Off Kinks, who play on a regular basis at my local Rhythm & Blues Club.

Fellow Kast-Off Kinks members are:- Ian Gibbons, keyboards (Kinks) Jim Rodford, bass (Swinging Blues Jeans, Argent, Kinks) and Dave Clarke, guitar, vocals (Noel Redding Band)

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Let's also give props to Dave Davies, who wrote some real gems like Love Me Till The Sun Shines, Death of a Clown, Strangers, and his magnum opus, Livin' on a Thin Line.

He's also the guy who, at age 17, sang "I want a lot out of life but I know my limitations."

Let's also remember how flamboyant a kid he was, dressing in thigh-high boots and wearing a sword and buckler into bars.  Not to mention this extraordinary hat, which just so goes with his Gibson Flying V.

And some of his guitar work, like the solo on House in the Country when he was still 19, or the bridge of the Hard Way, or the spectacular bombast of the opening of Celluloid Heroes on the 1980 live album.

Not to mention his interest in extraterrestrials and neo-buddhist metaphysical intelligences.  One cosmic dude!


Dave's great guitar work on No More Looking Back, and his solo songs which include Love Gets You,  Imaginations Real, and Unfinished Business, as well as the exceptional album BUG.
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Great thread! Small Faces and The Kinks are some of my top rated British bands of the 60s

I'm listening right now "Everybody's in show Biz" according to Stephen Thomas Erlewinet from All Music "The the drunkest album ever made"

Muswell Hillbillies is probably the one I like the most (hard to say which one)
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The Kinks fekkin' rock...admit it, fer chrissakes.



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Let's talk about Preservation,  the first Kink Koncept album, a socio-political minidrama over six sides of music.  Act 1, a single album, was released in November 1973, and Act 2, a double, in May 1974.  

I obtained Act I long before Act 2, in college in the early 80s.  Despite being a little baffled about the chanted opening Morning Song, I always thought  it's a fantastic album through to the finish, even though it really just introduced the characters and didn't advance any plot too much.  I later learned that Sweet Lady Genevive was written specifically about Ray's wife Rasa, who had just dumped him and taken their two daughters with her, it seems in a very middle-of-the-night-and-don't-try-to-find-us way.  In any case, all the proceedings are tuneful, catchy and interesting that built an interesting little conceit about which of these two guys, or systems, Flash or Black, is the more viable political option.  Arrangements incorporate full brass and chorus and other cool sounds (eg the de-tuned guitar on Daylight) but don't overwhelm the songs, and Dave gets to let rip on more than one occasion.  It's been a go-to album since I got it.

So, I graduate school and move to the Washington area, but I'm not finding Act 2 in any of the many record shops, so it's becoming a bit of a holy grail, to see how this thing goes.  Four more sides of what promised to be vintage Ray had me drooling.  So one day I'm at a record convention (Silver Spring Armory for all you Marylanders) and I finally threw up my hands and said "Doesn't ANYBODY have Preservation Act 2 by the bloody Kinks?" and one guy said, "sure I do, just not with me."  I handed him $15 cash and gave him my address, so it was a little like Calvin and the propeller beanie waiting.   A few weeks later, a bit to my surprise since I never took the name of the record vendor, it arrives in the mail.  Very cool back cover, all the Kinks in hilarious costumes and the backup singers all slutted up.  I'm psyched as I spin side 1 . . .  

WTF?  It starts with a bugle fanfare and a news announcer saying something dumb like "unconfirmed reports suggest this is definitely attempt to overthrow the current government."  I listen, flip, listen, flip, and listen.  I'm just dumbfounded.  Not one tune that's really catchy, more like some rock and roll threepenny opera, or maybe Rocky Horror Picture Show, and more of those momentum-killing announcements.   All the songs are like one-liners; there's no depth, no warmth, and in the end the message seems to be:  capitalism is evil, but so is authoritarian socialism.  There's even a silly new national anthem for the new oppressive state to close things.  There are a few funny moments like the "breasts that are bare and pubic hair" bits and the dream sequence, but for the most part Ray's magic is wholly absent.

I am just astonished how a project that started so well went so awry.  (Maybe the divorce.)  Even the single from Act 2, Mirror of Love, has no appeal to me.  Cutting out the announcements on my iTunes helps a bit, but Preservation Act 2 is surely the most disappointing Kinks album of all for me.  When I met Ray during the Storyteller tour in 1996 I had him sign my old vinyl copy of Act 1.  

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Looking Back: The Kinks Underrated Classic Release, "Something Else"

In 1968, The Kinks were three years into a four-year ban from performing in the United States. According to band leader Ray Davies the group's manager did not pay their membership fees to the American Federation of Musicians.

As a result, the band was issued a devastating penalty by the federation - a four-year outright ban from performing concerts in the United States.

While many rock critics believe the ban prevented The Kinks from being one of the biggest U.K. rock bands of the mid-to-late 1960s (as were fellow British Invasion groups The Who, The Rolling Stones and The Beatles), the group created most of the best music they ever made, and some of the most memorable songs in rock history.
In 1968, when psychedelic rock was the center of the rock universe worldwide, The Kinks released their sixth studio album titled Something Else.

The album has only in more recent decades received the recognition it deserved nearly 40 years ago, with the exception of the album's biggest hit, "Waterloo Sunset," which music mogul and founder of Geffen Records, David Geffen has said is one of the best pop songs ever written. If you are a Kinks fan, and even if you are not, chances have heard "Waterloo Sunset."

But the album itself can today safely be called one of the band's seminal classics. In addition to "Waterloo Sunset" the album also features the Euro-rock football anthem "David Watts", the fun, catchy genius of "Death of A Clown" (written and sung by guitarist Dave Davies), and the hazy, slow melancholy "No Return", later covered by Bebel Gilberto.

The recent reissue of the original Something Else includes unique bonus songs, including poppy songs like "Wonderboy", "Act Nice And Gentle" and "Autumn Almanac", as well as the surprising previously unreleased tracks, "Lincoln County" and "There's No Life Without Love".

If you are a Kinks fan, or admire great music, Something Else should be part of your music collection. In the past decade, The Kinks have enjoyed a resurgence of popularity. Many critics and fans have realized by the music world as one the greatest bands ever, and Ray Davies one of the best songwriters of his time (trivia fact: In New Orleans, in 2004, Davies was shot in the leg by a man he pursued after the thief snatched Davies' girlfriend's purse).


Aside from many of their early classics being featured in commercials, TV shows and movies during the past decade, many people don't know that The Kinks were one of the first rock groups to be inducted in to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, Ohio.

While the most radio played rock bands of 1968 were selling out shows across the world, The Kinks were making music that will continue to be discovered by music enthusiasts for years to come. Something Else is one of the band's 40-something albums that will stand out forever, and clearly one of the most under-rated releases of the year, if not the decade.




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Today is Ray Davies' Sixty-sixth birthday.

Happy Birthday Ray!!!   Let's go get drunk
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Happy Birthday Ray! The Kinks are high on my favorites.
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Happy birthday Ray. Here's a great old number from Sleepwalker I've always liked. Mr Big Man http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcEIBwf7ZwY
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Zack wrote on Apr 21st, 2010 at 7:34am:
Let's also give props to Dave Davies, who wrote some real gems like Love Me Till The Sun Shines, Death of a Clown, Strangers, and his magnum opus, Livin' on a Thin Line.

He's also the guy who, at age 17, sang "I want a lot out of life but I know my limitations."

Let's also remember how flamboyant a kid he was, dressing in thigh-high boots and wearing a sword and buckler into bars.  Not to mention this extraordinary hat, which just so goes with his Gibson Flying V.

And some of his guitar work, like the solo on House in the Country when he was still 19, or the bridge of the Hard Way, or the spectacular bombast of the opening of Celluloid Heroes on the 1980 live album.

Not to mention his interest in extraterrestrials and neo-buddhist metaphysical intelligences.  One cosmic dude!

And Dave's  Who's Fooling Who, Nothing More To Lose, Rock N Roll Cities, and When You Were A Child.
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Pete Quaife has died.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/culture-obituaries/music-obituaries/7...

Pete Quaife, who died on June 24 aged 66, was a founder member of The Kinks and played bass guitar on their biggest hits, including You Really Got Me, All Day and All of the Night and Dedicated Follower of Fashion; in the early 1970s he abandoned the music scene to make his living as a graphic artist.

Peter Alexander Greenlaw Quaife was born on December 31 1943 at Tavistock, Devon, and was brought up at Muswell Hill in north London, where he attended William Grimshaw School. A fellow pupil was Ray Davies, and together they formed The Kinks, also recruiting Ray's brother Dave. They played their first gig at a school dance, covering songs by the Ventures, the Shadows and Duane Eddy, then appeared at various venues around London before landing a record contract in 1963.

Fame arrived with their third single, the hard-driving, proto-heavy metal track You Really Got Me, which was released in 1964 and went to No 1 in Britain and No 7 in the United States.
In 1966, after being seriously injured in a car accident, Quaife was briefly replaced on bass by John Dalton. But he can be heard on albums such as Something Else By The Kinks and The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society ("the high point of my career", Quaife later said), and he contributed to some of the material on Arthur (Or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire). He also sang vocals on the single Waterloo Sunset (1967), which reached No 2 in the British charts.

In April 1969 Quaife left the band for good, to be replaced by Dalton. "The band was fighting all the time and I was getting sick of it," Quaife said in 1998. "I wanted to run as fast as I could in the other direction. I just couldn't take the constant brawling amongst everybody any more."

He added: "I remember, early on, that the Stones and us were about of equal popularity. I knew one of us would emerge as number two behind the Beatles. There was no way either us or the Stones were going to surpass the Beatles. The Kinks knew that. But we did have a chance to surpass the Stones if we worked as a collaborative unit and cut out the b******* and fighting... Mick [Avory, the drummer] and I felt like session men most of the time. Like it could have been anybody in the studio there playing bass and drums."

After leaving The Kinks, Quaife formed his own country/rock group, Maple Oak. Their first single, Son of a Gun, made little impact on its release in 1970, and Quaife gave up his musical career and moved to Denmark. By 1980 he was living at Belleville, in Ontario, Canada, where he worked as an airbrush artist and as the political cartoonist for a weekly newspaper. In Belleville he adopted the surname Kinnes to avoid being traced in the telephone directory by fans. He also took up classical guitar and played bass with a local church group.

His only subsequent performance with The Kinks was at a concert in Toronto in 1981, although he later made occasional appearances with The Kast Off Kinks, most of whose members had been members of the band in its various incarnations.

After being treated for kidney failure in the late 1990s, Quaife published a book of cartoons entitled The Lighter Side of Dialysis. In 2005 he returned to live in Denmark.

Pete Quaife was twice married, and had one daughter.
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Pete Quaife has died.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/culture-obituaries/music-obituaries/7...

Pete Quaife, who died on June 24 aged 66, was a founder member of The Kinks and played bass guitar on their biggest hits, including You Really Got Me, All Day and All of the Night and Dedicated Follower of Fashion; in the early 1970s he abandoned the music scene to make his living as a graphic artist.

Peter Alexander Greenlaw Quaife was born on December 31 1943 at Tavistock, Devon, and was brought up at Muswell Hill in north London, where he attended William Grimshaw School. A fellow pupil was Ray Davies, and together they formed The Kinks, also recruiting Ray's brother Dave. They played their first gig at a school dance, covering songs by the Ventures, the Shadows and Duane Eddy, then appeared at various venues around London before landing a record contract in 1963.

Fame arrived with their third single, the hard-driving, proto-heavy metal track You Really Got Me, which was released in 1964 and went to No 1 in Britain and No 7 in the United States.
In 1966, after being seriously injured in a car accident, Quaife was briefly replaced on bass by John Dalton. But he can be heard on albums such as Something Else By The Kinks and The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society ("the high point of my career", Quaife later said), and he contributed to some of the material on Arthur (Or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire). He also sang vocals on the single Waterloo Sunset (1967), which reached No 2 in the British charts.

In April 1969 Quaife left the band for good, to be replaced by Dalton. "The band was fighting all the time and I was getting sick of it," Quaife said in 1998. "I wanted to run as fast as I could in the other direction. I just couldn't take the constant brawling amongst everybody any more."

He added: "I remember, early on, that the Stones and us were about of equal popularity. I knew one of us would emerge as number two behind the Beatles. There was no way either us or the Stones were going to surpass the Beatles. The Kinks knew that. But we did have a chance to surpass the Stones if we worked as a collaborative unit and cut out the b******* and fighting... Mick [Avory, the drummer] and I felt like session men most of the time. Like it could have been anybody in the studio there playing bass and drums."

After leaving The Kinks, Quaife formed his own country/rock group, Maple Oak. Their first single, Son of a Gun, made little impact on its release in 1970, and Quaife gave up his musical career and moved to Denmark. By 1980 he was living at Belleville, in Ontario, Canada, where he worked as an airbrush artist and as the political cartoonist for a weekly newspaper. In Belleville he adopted the surname Kinnes to avoid being traced in the telephone directory by fans. He also took up classical guitar and played bass with a local church group.

His only subsequent performance with The Kinks was at a concert in Toronto in 1981, although he later made occasional appearances with The Kast Off Kinks, most of whose members had been members of the band in its various incarnations.

After being treated for kidney failure in the late 1990s, Quaife published a book of cartoons entitled The Lighter Side of Dialysis. In 2005 he returned to live in Denmark.

Pete Quaife was twice married, and had one daughter.


Very sad news, I'll always remember The Kinks as they were, & he was a big part of it.
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Pete Quaife has died.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/culture-obituaries/music-obituaries/7...

Pete Quaife, who died on June 24 aged 66, was a founder member of The Kinks and played bass guitar on their biggest hits, including You Really Got Me, All Day and All of the Night and Dedicated Follower of Fashion; in the early 1970s he abandoned the music scene to make his living as a graphic artist.

Peter Alexander Greenlaw Quaife was born on December 31 1943 at Tavistock, Devon, and was brought up at Muswell Hill in north London, where he attended William Grimshaw School. A fellow pupil was Ray Davies, and together they formed The Kinks, also recruiting Ray's brother Dave. They played their first gig at a school dance, covering songs by the Ventures, the Shadows and Duane Eddy, then appeared at various venues around London before landing a record contract in 1963.

Fame arrived with their third single, the hard-driving, proto-heavy metal track You Really Got Me, which was released in 1964 and went to No 1 in Britain and No 7 in the United States.
In 1966, after being seriously injured in a car accident, Quaife was briefly replaced on bass by John Dalton. But he can be heard on albums such as Something Else By The Kinks and The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society ("the high point of my career", Quaife later said), and he contributed to some of the material on Arthur (Or the Decline and Fall of the British Empire). He also sang vocals on the single Waterloo Sunset (1967), which reached No 2 in the British charts.

In April 1969 Quaife left the band for good, to be replaced by Dalton. "The band was fighting all the time and I was getting sick of it," Quaife said in 1998. "I wanted to run as fast as I could in the other direction. I just couldn't take the constant brawling amongst everybody any more."

He added: "I remember, early on, that the Stones and us were about of equal popularity. I knew one of us would emerge as number two behind the Beatles. There was no way either us or the Stones were going to surpass the Beatles. The Kinks knew that. But we did have a chance to surpass the Stones if we worked as a collaborative unit and cut out the b******* and fighting... Mick [Avory, the drummer] and I felt like session men most of the time. Like it could have been anybody in the studio there playing bass and drums."

After leaving The Kinks, Quaife formed his own country/rock group, Maple Oak. Their first single, Son of a Gun, made little impact on its release in 1970, and Quaife gave up his musical career and moved to Denmark. By 1980 he was living at Belleville, in Ontario, Canada, where he worked as an airbrush artist and as the political cartoonist for a weekly newspaper. In Belleville he adopted the surname Kinnes to avoid being traced in the telephone directory by fans. He also took up classical guitar and played bass with a local church group.

His only subsequent performance with The Kinks was at a concert in Toronto in 1981, although he later made occasional appearances with The Kast Off Kinks, most of whose members had been members of the band in its various incarnations.

After being treated for kidney failure in the late 1990s, Quaife published a book of cartoons entitled The Lighter Side of Dialysis. In 2005 he returned to live in Denmark.

Pete Quaife was twice married, and had one daughter.






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Stunning news.  Though Pete hasnt played bass with the band since 1969, to me he has always been the bassist.

Pete was also a gifted artist and his drawings made during his treatments are both artistically excellent, but also quite humorous.

God bless you Pete, and thank you.
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Sad news, like the end of an era. Apparently Konk studios is for sale:

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