nankerphelge wrote on Apr 15
th, 2010 at 11:34am:
"so the criteria, of what is offensive, is only if it is personal towards you? which isn't true, b/c you have made remarks about what others have said, that had nothing to do with you in the past... maybe it is just, that you agree with him, seems more like it... you might not have the extreme views or dislikes, but you do lean his way... I know I've said harsh things and also been civil with you, and gotten various reactions... provoked and unprovoked. Are you really saying, if me or say brainbell had started this political crap again, you wouldn't have cared, especially with some of the harshness, that spewed out, for no reason? you have sidebusted before and called people out, when you weren't involved... it's a reflection on all of us... he even agreed to stop posting poltical... so bottom line, IMO, he's a liar, and a troll looking to hurt people and start fights. and its lame... like i said last week, we had a real chance to mend and all get back to at least being amicalbe, if not even being friendly again... all we have to do, is stop political arguments, like was asked.... "
If someone says something that offends me - either a personal attack against me or an attack against my beliefs or substitutes opinion for fact, then I may respond just like anyone else. Whether you think that is provoked or unprovoked is a matter of opinion. I am not saying I have never been uncivil here -- I have at times, and I have apologized.
And while I generally agree with Riffy's political leanings, that doesn't mean I agree 100% with everything he says, nor does it mean I agree with the way he says them at times. But I am not a moderator and I do not feel the need to tell someone else how to act here. If he or you or anyone else gets out of line, the moderators have demonstrated their willingness to lock threads.
The moderators do enough, how often do they lock threads?, how often have they asked us to cill out? Asking us to chill, as they did, and even Riffy agreed, should've been enough.
You make a good point... I think the Stones tongue, is a horrible reprenstation of what the song represents, and ironically, the lyrics are what many might call vulgar... I got shit for saying "eat my fuck"... gimme shelter is about, war, rape, murder and drug use... so what is considered offensive is completely subjective. I use the term, desecration, to describe the logo and words... and then I get ridiculed b/c i say rock n' roll is my religion. now that, is more offensive... but did i lash out, no... it seems to many here are quick to lash out, when they find some kinda faux offense on them, when in truth, they like you, ignore it when it is done to others.... me like you, we all have our moments... so who is going to step up, and end the political shit... when you think about it, what we are doing right now, should be as bad as a disagreemnt here gets... why not... otherwise, the moderators have to shiut down all kinds of shit b/c people act like assholes over every precieved slight and what they deem is offensive. I might be the only one, who has said rock n' roll is my religion... but shouldn't i get the same respect as those who are pissed off if organized religion is brought up negatively? I think we are all big enough to step it up, and man the fuck up... and when we cross the line, we pull each other up too... otherwise, this site, will die, b/c we will not attract new people.... and that is important, b/c it is the essence of rock n' roll... otherwise we wouldn't have done the things we've done together!!!!