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Reply #25 - Apr 14th, 2010 at 8:10pm
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nankerphelge wrote on Apr 14th, 2010 at 5:40pm:
The Stones lawyers might tell the Stones that it would be a tough case because (1) even if a logo is properly the subject of federal copyright law, fair use as satire might apply under First Amendment grounds or that (2) if the logo is subject to trademark protection, there is probably no likelihood of confusion as to the source of the goods since all you libs seem to understand this isn't a "real" Stones shirt and (3) given the Stones unclean hands in lifting celebrity images (original Some Girls cover) or names & events (Claudine was scuttled) and in some cases the better part of songs (Love in Vain/Stop Breakin Down), maybe it is no big deal, except to a few smarty pants libs who agree with Freedom of Speech as long as it is the "correct" speech!  



all that said.... it's a friggin anti-war song... written by two liberals...  all that shirt does is identify the wearer, like an Ed Hardy tee or those Affliction shirts... There's no cool irony, in that shirt... the irony for me, sadly, is after all people who were uptight over religion, yet this is a far worse desecration... I consider rock n' roll my religion... it is just pathetic that Riffy feels he has to keep stirring the pot...all this copyright law talk is stupid. Imagine what Mick or Kieth would think of the person wearing that shirt...
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Mick and Keith would think "cha-Ching" $$$$$$.

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Reply #27 - Apr 14th, 2010 at 9:11pm
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Pdog wrote on Apr 14th, 2010 at 8:10pm:
the irony for me, sadly, is after all people who were uptight over religion, yet this is a far worse desecration...

huh??

that was tongue in cheek, right?
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Reply #28 - Apr 14th, 2010 at 9:39pm
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How long before you doofuses ( or is it doofi, JC?) get this thread locked?

This is getting old..really old...

as old as Joey's ladyfriend in the coffin (damn, I can't find her photo..)
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Reply #29 - Apr 15th, 2010 at 1:03am
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Starbuck wrote on Apr 14th, 2010 at 9:11pm:
Pdog wrote on Apr 14th, 2010 at 8:10pm:
the irony for me, sadly, is after all people who were uptight over religion, yet this is a far worse desecration...

huh??

that was tongue in cheek, right?

The appropriation of the Stones' trademarked lips is certainly vulgar and clueless. What's next? Maybe the Tea Party cult will adopt Street Fighting Man as their mantra at their next collective hissy fit.
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Reply #30 - Apr 15th, 2010 at 1:55am
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Riffhard wrote on Apr 14th, 2010 at 3:46pm:
However, if it pisses off leonid, funman, 2000 monkey, and a pathetic little punk like you? Absofuckinglutly!


I'm loving the shirt thanks much! Glad you hate it! That was my intent!



Sooooo, you basically just admitted you were trolling. Glad you have come to terms with that. Not to mention your endless flaming and name calling. And since you are always going on and on about FACTS, here's one for you: You break the user agreement of this board in almost every single post you make, and you've been doing it for years. Any other board would have banned you a long time ago.

Not that I would ever want you banned though, you're a constant source of humor.  really?
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LadyJane wrote on Apr 14th, 2010 at 8:19pm:
Mick and Keith would think "cha-Ching" $$$$$$.





Except they would swing liberal. I do own a Stones Che' shirt, with the band wearing berets looking like leftist rebels...

I agree, Riffy is trolling,
Yuo and nanky don't ask him to tone it down, but both have given me grief for comments, not even directed at people here, genralizations, kinda odd! Read what he has writtin so far about regular posters... and that is all he is posting here, no music or Stones. That's is why I think he is more offensive than the christian bashing, this is a Stoes site, not a religous site.  So ,when people bash religion here, it is seriosu, but my religion, I call rock n' roll is a joke... maybe even the liberals here are conservative, since being different around here isn't respected that much. IMO, taking the greatest anti-war song, and making it about politcs that are polar opposite, is a desecration. Shows me that he isn't here for the same reason I am, he is here to be mean and start fights... music has become second. When I die, there will be rock n' roll coming out my ass.... (this is emoticon time) Ouch! When Riffy goes, he wil have tea bags coming out his... Retarded post
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Reply #32 - Apr 15th, 2010 at 6:20am
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PartyDoll MEG wrote on Apr 14th, 2010 at 9:39pm:
How long before you doofuses ( or is it doofi, JC?) get this thread locked?

This is getting old..really old...

as old as Joey's ladyfriend in the coffin (damn, I can't find her photo..)


meg, the plural nominative ending for all second declension masculine nouns is -i. therefore it would be doofi. that being said, doofus is not derived from latin.

piglatin perhaps, but not latin.
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Reply #33 - Apr 15th, 2010 at 6:26am
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Pdog wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 5:45am:
LadyJane wrote on Apr 14th, 2010 at 8:19pm:
Mick and Keith would think "cha-Ching" $$$$$$.





Except they would swing liberal. I do own a Stones Che' shirt, with the band wearing berets looking like leftist rebels...

I agree, Riffy is trolling,
Yuo and nanky don't ask him to tone it down, but both have given me grief for comments, not even directed at people here, genralizations, kinda odd! Read what he has writtin so far about regular posters... and that is all he is posting here, no music or Stones. That's is why I think he is more offensive than the christian bashing, this is a Stoes site, not a religous site.  So ,when people bash religion here, it is seriosu, but my religion, I call rock n' roll is a joke... maybe even the liberals here are conservative, since being different around here isn't respected that much. IMO, taking the greatest anti-war song, and making it about politcs that are polar opposite, is a desecration. Shows me that he isn't here for the same reason I am, he is here to be mean and start fights... music has become second. When I die, there will be rock n' roll coming out my ass.... (this is emoticon time) Ouch! When Riffy goes, he wil have tea bags coming out his... Retarded post


in your opinion, the religion bashing is less offensive than the riffbash. to many others, however, that isn't the case. and come on....rock is your religion? you can't be offended if anyone says they think the clash suck. that ain't on par with yours and others bashings of christianity.

you are right though...riffboof does get a free pass for being inflammatory. time and time again. riffsmooch...despite howe many games of strip poker you've played with mick, your personal insults are....well they are just plain:
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Reply #34 - Apr 15th, 2010 at 6:47am
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"Except they would swing liberal."

You don't know that!! You have stated many times that the Twins have sold out to the almighty dollar. All I'm saying is that when you pray at the Altar of Cash, there is no discernment between liberal and conservative.

As for Riffy, I would hate to see him banned!

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Reply #35 - Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:04am
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Starbuck wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 6:26am:
Pdog wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 5:45am:
LadyJane wrote on Apr 14th, 2010 at 8:19pm:
Mick and Keith would think "cha-Ching" $$$$$$.





Except they would swing liberal. I do own a Stones Che' shirt, with the band wearing berets looking like leftist rebels...

I agree, Riffy is trolling,
Yuo and nanky don't ask him to tone it down, but both have given me grief for comments, not even directed at people here, genralizations, kinda odd! Read what he has writtin so far about regular posters... and that is all he is posting here, no music or Stones. That's is why I think he is more offensive than the christian bashing, this is a Stoes site, not a religous site.  So ,when people bash religion here, it is seriosu, but my religion, I call rock n' roll is a joke... maybe even the liberals here are conservative, since being different around here isn't respected that much. IMO, taking the greatest anti-war song, and making it about politcs that are polar opposite, is a desecration. Shows me that he isn't here for the same reason I am, he is here to be mean and start fights... music has become second. When I die, there will be rock n' roll coming out my ass.... (this is emoticon time) Ouch! When Riffy goes, he wil have tea bags coming out his... Retarded post


in your opinion, the religion bashing is less offensive than the riffbash. to many others, however, that isn't the case. and come on....rock is your religion? you can't be offended if anyone says they think the clash suck. that ain't on par with yours and others bashings of christianity.

you are right though...riffboof does get a free pass for being inflammatory. time and time again. riffsmooch...despite howe many games of strip poker you've played with mick, your personal insults are....well they are just plain:
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i never said i was offended. you're making an argument based on conjecture or perhaps your own personal feelings  and assuming I must feel this way too... i'm saying, there's no difference between what riffy is doing or someone bashing religion, both are either equally offensive or IMO, equally moot... making fun of religous myths is and using an anti-war message in opposition to anti-war liberals, is the same from my POV... Rock is my religion, it is when I say it is, that's what faith and beleifs are, not being some conformist, that has to do what everyone else is doing... it's been part of my spiritual life since I was very young.  I never had a spiritual moment in a church, but had many at concerts and while litening to music.... what's amazing, is your tome, like what I said can't possibly be true... From my POV, that you don't feel this way as well, is what is wrong!
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Reply #36 - Apr 15th, 2010 at 7:07am
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LadyJane wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 6:47am:
"Except they would swing liberal."

You don't know that!! You have stated many times that the Twins have sold out to the almighty dollar. All I'm saying is that when you pray at the Altar of Cash, there is no discernment between liberal and conservative.

As for Riffy, I would hate to see him banned!

LJ.




Then tell him to follow the rules of YaBB.... or at least respect the mods... he seems to like fanning these flames, and why are me and you even discussiing this... b/c he keeps trolling and stirring the pot... then we all go here... I was completely honest, when I said, I would rather be banned myself, if it meant that Riffy would knock off the trolling, for the good of the board....
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"Yuo and nanky don't ask him to tone it down"

He has never offended me personally, and so I have no reason to tell him anything.
Besides, there is a whole contingent here that regularly rides him for his posting and the mods have told us all to calm down, so I see no reason to add anything to that.



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"  so I see no reason to add anything to that.  "

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just a heads up, but one of the pip squeak, bushgeeks has had the gimme shelter/liberals thing in his sig for weeks now

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nankerphelge wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 9:51am:
"Yuo and nanky don't ask him to tone it down"

He has never offended me personally, and so I have no reason to tell him anything.
Besides, there is a whole contingent here that regularly rides him for his posting and the mods have told us all to calm down, so I see no reason to add anything to that.






so the criteria, of what is offensive, is only if it is personal towards you? which isn't true, b/c you have made remarks about what others have said, that had nothing to do with you in the past... maybe it is just, that you agree with him, seems more like it... you might not have the extreme views or dislikes, but you do lean his way... I know I've said harsh things and also been civil with you, and gotten various reactions... provoked and unprovoked. Are you really saying, if me or say brainbell had started this political crap again, you wouldn't have cared, especially with some of the harshness, that spewed out, for no reason? you have sidebusted before and called people out, when you weren't involved... it's a reflection on all of us... he even agreed to stop posting poltical... so bottom line, IMO, he's a liar, and a troll looking to hurt people and start fights. and  its lame... like i said last week, we had a real chance to mend and all get back to at least being amicalbe, if not even being friendly again... all we have to do, is stop political arguments, like was asked....
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dudes! New Stones!!

'Zactly You rock! Let's go get drunk Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?
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"so the criteria, of what is offensive, is only if it is personal towards you? which isn't true, b/c you have made remarks about what others have said, that had nothing to do with you in the past... maybe it is just, that you agree with him, seems more like it... you might not have the extreme views or dislikes, but you do lean his way... I know I've said harsh things and also been civil with you, and gotten various reactions... provoked and unprovoked. Are you really saying, if me or say brainbell had started this political crap again, you wouldn't have cared, especially with some of the harshness, that spewed out, for no reason? you have sidebusted before and called people out, when you weren't involved... it's a reflection on all of us... he even agreed to stop posting poltical... so bottom line, IMO, he's a liar, and a troll looking to hurt people and start fights. and  its lame... like i said last week, we had a real chance to mend and all get back to at least being amicalbe, if not even being friendly again... all we have to do, is stop political arguments, like was asked.... "

If someone says something that offends me - either a personal attack against me or an attack against my beliefs or substitutes opinion for fact, then I may respond just like anyone else.  Whether you think that is provoked or unprovoked is a matter of opinion.  I am not saying I have never been uncivil here -- I have at times, and I have apologized.

And while I generally agree with Riffy's political leanings, that doesn't mean I agree 100% with everything he says, nor does it mean I agree with the way he says them at times.  But I am not a moderator and I do not feel the need to tell someone else how to act here.  If he or you or anyone else gets out of line, the moderators have demonstrated their willingness to lock threads.  





 
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"so the criteria, of what is offensive, is only if it is personal towards you? which isn't true, b/c you have made remarks about what others have said, that had nothing to do with you in the past... maybe it is just, that you agree with him, seems more like it... you might not have the extreme views or dislikes, but you do lean his way... I know I've said harsh things and also been civil with you, and gotten various reactions... provoked and unprovoked. Are you really saying, if me or say brainbell had started this political crap again, you wouldn't have cared, especially with some of the harshness, that spewed out, for no reason? you have sidebusted before and called people out, when you weren't involved... it's a reflection on all of us... he even agreed to stop posting poltical... so bottom line, IMO, he's a liar, and a troll looking to hurt people and start fights. and  its lame... like i said last week, we had a real chance to mend and all get back to at least being amicalbe, if not even being friendly again... all we have to do, is stop political arguments, like was asked.... "

If someone says something that offends me - either a personal attack against me or an attack against my beliefs or substitutes opinion for fact, then I may respond just like anyone else.  Whether you think that is provoked or unprovoked is a matter of opinion.  I am not saying I have never been uncivil here -- I have at times, and I have apologized.

And while I generally agree with Riffy's political leanings, that doesn't mean I agree 100% with everything he says, nor does it mean I agree with the way he says them at times.  But I am not a moderator and I do not feel the need to tell someone else how to act here.  If he or you or anyone else gets out of line, the moderators have demonstrated their willingness to lock threads.  





 


The moderators do enough, how often do they lock threads?, how often have they asked us to cill out? Asking us to chill, as they did, and even Riffy agreed, should've been enough.
You make a good point... I think the Stones tongue, is a horrible reprenstation of what the song represents, and ironically, the lyrics are what many might call vulgar... I got shit for saying "eat my fuck"... gimme shelter is about, war, rape, murder and drug use... so what is considered offensive is completely subjective. I use the term, desecration, to describe the logo and words... and then I get ridiculed b/c i say rock n' roll is my religion. now that, is more offensive... but did i lash out, no... it seems to many here are quick to lash out, when they find some kinda faux offense on them, when in truth, they like you, ignore it when it is done to others.... me like you, we all have our moments... so who is going to step up, and end the political shit... when you think about it, what we are doing right now, should be as bad as a disagreemnt here gets... why not... otherwise, the moderators have to shiut down all kinds of shit b/c people act like assholes over every precieved slight and what they deem is offensive. I might be the only one, who has said rock n' roll is my religion... but shouldn't i get the same respect as those who are pissed off if organized religion is brought up negatively? I think we are all big enough to step it up, and man the fuck up... and when we cross the line, we pull each other up too... otherwise, this site, will die, b/c we will not attract new people.... and that is important, b/c it is the essence of rock n' roll... otherwise we wouldn't have done the things we've done together!!!!
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names & events (Claudine was scuttled)


That's a damn shame. I love ER but that would've made it even better.
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Oh for fucks sake! Enough already! I jokingly posted a photo of a shirt that I purchased. I thought it was pretty funny, plus it had the added attraction of having some actual Stones' content. It was very tongue in cheek (no pun intended), and to anyone that had a brain that was obvious. I immediately was set upon by some jerk that I don't even know. This leonid prick has apparently been cyber stalking quite a few of our former regulars here for months now. He has managed to troll other boards that some of the greatest former RO'ers like to post on, and then he has come back here and tried to act all coy with this information. As if anyone gives two flying fucks what he says. Hey, leonid, here's a clue-you are laughed at routinely and you don't even know it.


It's very obvious that what Pdog is trying to get others to denounce me as a poster because I have zero problem telling people to go fuck themselves. I have watched as some of the best posters this site has ever seen disappear because they did not want to take the crap from a select band of posters that constantly harassed them because of their political views. Now these former posters are strong enough to come back here and destroy these intellectual lightweights with sound arguments, but they chose to leave instead. It's the board's loss.

I didn't see Pdog denouncing the constant non-stop harassment of them. Did you? I haven't seen Pdog denounce the constant put down of religion, and of people's personal faith by the friends on his side. Did you? I didn't see anyone on that side denounce all of the lies told about Feej. Did any of you? I didn't see any denunciation of the constant Bush Geeks horseshit. Did you?

It's almost as if the only people that Pdog wants denounced are those that he disagrees with. Which is quite funny considering that that is exactly what he is accusing Nanky of doing.


It's obvious to me that politics can no longer be discussed in a civil manner on this board. If they ever have been? I am as guilty as anyone for that. I take full responsibility for it. Hell, I would even admit to being worse than many in that regard. What can I say? I refuse to take shit from anyone, period! I'm certainly no worse than many though. I'm outnumbered so I tend to use a larger caliber retort. However, I don't want to appear as a person that can't put politics aside for the betterment of the board. So I will no longer discuss the subject on this board period.

It matters not to me. As I said in a post last week. Real life events on the ground are proving that I was right all along Barry anyway. So for my parting, and final, shot-Barack Obama is the single most dangerous, and least qualified president in world history, and he is going to fuck this nation up for years to come, and only like minded far leftists, and brain dead tools can't see that FACT.


LOL!

I'm out!


See you on the Stones' threads!



Riffy
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Reply #49 - Apr 15th, 2010 at 2:16pm
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Riffhard wrote on Apr 15th, 2010 at 1:35pm:
Oh for fucks sake! Enough already! I jokingly posted a photo of a shirt that I purchased. I thought it was pretty funny, plus it had the added attraction of having some actual Stones' content. It was very tongue in cheek (no pun intended), and to anyone that had a brain that was obvious. I immediately was set upon by some jerk that I don't even know. This leonid prick has apparently been cyber stalking quite a few of our former regulars here for months now. He has managed to troll other boards that some of the greatest former RO'ers like to post on, and then he has come back here and tried to act all coy with this information. As if anyone gives two flying fucks what he says. Hey, leonid, here's a clue-you are laughed at routinely and you don't even know it.


It's very obvious that what Pdog is trying to get others to denounce me as a poster because I have zero problem telling people to go fuck themselves. I have watched as some of the best posters this site has ever seen disappear because they did not want to take the crap from a select band of posters that constantly harassed them because of their political views. Now these former posters are strong enough to come back here and destroy these intellectual lightweights with sound arguments, but they chose to leave instead. It's the board's loss.

I didn't see Pdog denouncing the constant non-stop harassment of them. Did you? I haven't seen Pdog denounce the constant put down of religion, and of people's personal faith by the friends on his side. Did you? I didn't see anyone on that side denounce all of the lies told about Feej. Did any of you? I didn't see any denunciation of the constant Bush Geeks horseshit. Did you?

It's almost as if the only people that Pdog wants denounced are those that he disagrees with. Which is quite funny considering that that is exactly what he is accusing Nanky of doing.


It's obvious to me that politics can no longer be discussed in a civil manner on this board. If they ever have been? I am as guilty as anyone for that. I take full responsibility for it. Hell, I would even admit to being worse than many in that regard. What can I say? I refuse to take shit from anyone, period! I'm certainly no worse than many though. I'm outnumbered so I tend to use a larger caliber retort. However, I don't want to appear as a person that can't put politics aside for the betterment of the board. So I will no longer discuss the subject on this board period.

It matters not to me. As I said in a post last week. Real life events on the ground are proving that I was right all along Barry anyway. So for my parting, and final, shot-Barack Obama is the single most dangerous, and least qualified president in world history, and he is going to fuck this nation up for years to come, and only like minded far leftists, and brain dead tools can't see that FACT.


LOL!

I'm out!


See you on the Stones' threads!



Riffy



Hey bud, I'm getting the last word on this one. our beloved, She Rat, left b/c of you, don't beleive just ask her, it's no secret... Denounce that, while you act like only people you agree with left or that I somehow didn't defend certain people or whatever your alleging in your delusional authoritarian personality disorder. Leonid is stalking you and others on other boards... are you for real. JC is flebit. Paranoid is one thing, add it with your foul mouth and finger pointing, trolling ect... i hope you do post about some Stones regualrly, b/c politcs doesn't suit you.
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