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Reply #475 - Nov 13th, 2010 at 10:17pm
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Reply #476 - Nov 13th, 2010 at 10:34pm
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Wild Bill wrote on Nov 13th, 2010 at 10:17pm:
Gazza wrote on Nov 10th, 2010 at 5:08pm:
Keith had every right to be pissed.


Don't fuck with Keith!

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The way Keith so lamely swung and made contact with that dude's head, and never fazed him or broke Keith's guitar, has generated interest from the Pittsburgh Pirates.
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Reply #477 - Nov 13th, 2010 at 11:03pm
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Wild Bill wrote on Nov 13th, 2010 at 10:17pm:
Gazza wrote on Nov 10th, 2010 at 5:08pm:
Keith had every right to be pissed.


Don't fuck with Keith!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv1bM0pp_o4



The way Keith so lamely swung and made contact with that dude's head, and never fazed him or broke Keith's guitar, has generated interest from the Pittsburgh Pirates.


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Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Nov 13th, 2010 at 3:55pm:
Best rock bio ever, now get off your lazy ass Keith and go make some music


as much as the stones are vital to keith, i agree, he should be recording music. if mick isn't around, no big deal. you can't take it with you keef... i know there's some producers out there like rubin or lanois who could squeeze shot out of keith that would probably make every living musician feel like they suck!!!


Truer words have not been spoken, personally I would love to see Rubin get a hold of Keith and do an American recordings style album. It would be a fitting swan song from one of the last elder statesmen of rock n roll, and probably the most inspired thing to come out of the Stones camp in over 20 years
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Reply #479 - Nov 14th, 2010 at 6:29pm
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Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Nov 14th, 2010 at 1:52pm:
Pdog wrote on Nov 13th, 2010 at 5:03pm:
Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Nov 13th, 2010 at 3:55pm:
Best rock bio ever, now get off your lazy ass Keith and go make some music


as much as the stones are vital to keith, i agree, he should be recording music. if mick isn't around, no big deal. you can't take it with you keef... i know there's some producers out there like rubin or lanois who could squeeze shot out of keith that would probably make every living musician feel like they suck!!!


Truer words have not been spoken, personally I would love to see Rubin get a hold of Keith and do an American recordings style album. It would be a fitting swan song from one of the last elder statesmen of rock n roll, and probably the most inspired thing to come out of the Stones camp in over 20 years


I think the reason this isn't happening, is b/c, as he describes in his book, he doesn't know how to work alone when writting. But once he gets going, he can't stop... If Mick ain't there, and the fued got the wino's going... No one is pushing him or even asking him to work... and Mick won't work with Rubin, or probably anybody besides Don Was... not that Keith cares, but maybe he hasn't been told... Dude, you're going to be gone, what do you want to be your last bit of work? Think about it...  If Rubin got him, alone for 3 to 6 months... oh many... Britania Recordings, actualy, Britmerica.... it would be aweosme, alot of covers, some self penned works, he could get anyone he asked to join in... Fuck Keef... do it, before you croak or can't work anymore...
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Reply #480 - Nov 14th, 2010 at 8:36pm
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Pdog wrote on Nov 14th, 2010 at 6:29pm:
Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Nov 14th, 2010 at 1:52pm:
Pdog wrote on Nov 13th, 2010 at 5:03pm:
Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Nov 13th, 2010 at 3:55pm:
Best rock bio ever, now get off your lazy ass Keith and go make some music


as much as the stones are vital to keith, i agree, he should be recording music. if mick isn't around, no big deal. you can't take it with you keef... i know there's some producers out there like rubin or lanois who could squeeze shot out of keith that would probably make every living musician feel like they suck!!!


Truer words have not been spoken, personally I would love to see Rubin get a hold of Keith and do an American recordings style album. It would be a fitting swan song from one of the last elder statesmen of rock n roll, and probably the most inspired thing to come out of the Stones camp in over 20 years


I think the reason this isn't happening, is b/c, as he describes in his book, he doesn't know how to work alone when writting. But once he gets going, he can't stop... If Mick ain't there, and the fued got the wino's going... No one is pushing him or even asking him to work... and Mick won't work with Rubin, or probably anybody besides Don Was... not that Keith cares, but maybe he hasn't been told... Dude, you're going to be gone, what do you want to be your last bit of work? Think about it...  If Rubin got him, alone for 3 to 6 months... oh many... Britania Recordings, actualy, Britmerica.... it would be aweosme, alot of covers, some self penned works, he could get anyone he asked to join in... Fuck Keef... do it, before you croak or can't work anymore...


I know this topics the 400 lb gorilla in the room, but I often wonder to what extent his lack of creative output over the past 10 years has been due to his arthritic condition. Have you noticed his hands in any of the recent interviews he's done? They're totally deformed, looks like he's got ET fingers. He should wear gloves in public. I don't know how he manages to do all the concerts. I think I've heard he takes shots, but I would think that his condition has got to be a major factor in his being able to function as a musician
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Reply #481 - Nov 14th, 2010 at 9:25pm
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Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Nov 14th, 2010 at 8:36pm:
Pdog wrote on Nov 14th, 2010 at 6:29pm:
Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Nov 14th, 2010 at 1:52pm:
Pdog wrote on Nov 13th, 2010 at 5:03pm:
Mr. Sex Drugs Rock n Roll wrote on Nov 13th, 2010 at 3:55pm:
Best rock bio ever, now get off your lazy ass Keith and go make some music


as much as the stones are vital to keith, i agree, he should be recording music. if mick isn't around, no big deal. you can't take it with you keef... i know there's some producers out there like rubin or lanois who could squeeze shot out of keith that would probably make every living musician feel like they suck!!!


Truer words have not been spoken, personally I would love to see Rubin get a hold of Keith and do an American recordings style album. It would be a fitting swan song from one of the last elder statesmen of rock n roll, and probably the most inspired thing to come out of the Stones camp in over 20 years


I think the reason this isn't happening, is b/c, as he describes in his book, he doesn't know how to work alone when writting. But once he gets going, he can't stop... If Mick ain't there, and the fued got the wino's going... No one is pushing him or even asking him to work... and Mick won't work with Rubin, or probably anybody besides Don Was... not that Keith cares, but maybe he hasn't been told... Dude, you're going to be gone, what do you want to be your last bit of work? Think about it...  If Rubin got him, alone for 3 to 6 months... oh many... Britania Recordings, actualy, Britmerica.... it would be aweosme, alot of covers, some self penned works, he could get anyone he asked to join in... Fuck Keef... do it, before you croak or can't work anymore...


I know this topics the 400 lb gorilla in the room, but I often wonder to what extent his lack of creative output over the past 10 years has been due to his arthritic condition. Have you noticed his hands in any of the recent interviews he's done? They're totally deformed, looks like he's got ET fingers. He should wear gloves in public. I don't know how he manages to do all the concerts. I think I've heard he takes shots, but I would think that his condition has got to be a major factor in his being able to function as a musician



not mentioned at all in the book... he looks fine when he plays. his skills that have diminished, seemed sparodic too. There's time when his playing has been amazing, while other times he's messing up. booze, ages, not feeling it... one thing is obvious, his hands look weird, and something is going on with them... for some reason, if it was a problem, i tend think he would talk about it, but who knows... his ego may not allow for that... what he's lost as far as ability, seems to be far less than when he just doesn't seem to click... and after reading the book, he's hurt himself a bunch, and it seems that it damaged his psyche and in that sense, getting older is a factor. you just don't bounce back, and it takes a toll emotionally... and that's what i think Keith needs, is something to stir him... actually I think he's been stirred, the book was part of it... what he needs is a partner... and Jagger is just so bent on business and show, that he forgot about the art and the passion... if Jagger just went into writing without giving a fuck about what the tour will be like and what he is going to wear, I think Keith would respond much better and the songs would show it... like Keith said, they are a long way from being thrown into that kitchen and told to write a song... then again, if they had the balls to put themsleves in a situation, with a rpoducer who put them to task, the results could be amazing... and the irony is, they want to be amazing, without forcing it... simple, but not easy!
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Reply #482 - Nov 15th, 2010 at 4:48am
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Keith was today's CNN 'Connector Of The Day'.
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Having my experience with drugs, i am amazed that keith never mainlined or smoked cocine or injected it.... he was still very much addicted, and by all his actions, he is an addict/alcoholic... yet he is one amazing example of someone who somehow exerted more willpower than most, in order to not go over the edge at crucial times in his life... the only explanation, is probably his relationship with rastas, and having some sort of connection to a spiritual life, and that he wasn't completely selfish and self absorbed....
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I find it interesting that Keith has been a lot more conciliatory towards Mick in these recent interviews. He almost seems like he's going out of the way to compliment Mick, although not obviously.
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I find it interesting that Keith has been a lot more conciliatory towards Mick in these recent interviews. He almost seems like he's going out of the way to compliment Mick, although not obviously.



in the book keith seemed to compliment jagger alot... he pointed out stuff, that as a fan i could see. like how jagger craved stardom, at the expense of being an artist and creative, and was willing to burn his bandmates and his legacy... and how you have the many faces of jagger, and you never know if it is mick jagger or mick trying to be mick jagger... keith also pointed out the thing about jagger that has always pissed me off. how in interviews, he is so defensive and evasive, sometimes it works, but alot of the time it is really disssapointing, like he can't be bothered. there's no reason for it. for as vain as mick is, as much as he likes to entertain, it's weird how he goes out of his way to do this sort of sabotage. i can remember being excited for a jager interview, only to be wondering why her's acting like this music thing is his second job, and waiting for him to suddenly say something like, i am really doing this other thing, that's why i am not into talking about my music and band...and, i don't forget, it was Mick who didn't want to tour in the 80's and went behind peoples backs to go solo... keith didn't hold back his feelings then or now... and i was glad when jaggers attempt failed, it was lame... and it says alot that keith put together to very good albums and tours without jagger... and unlike jagger, he wasn't covering the stones... without keith richard, mick jagger is a very successful english business person. keith was going to be a musician his entire life, no matter what...
i love jagger, think he is great, as a young kid, i worshipped him, wanted to be like him... but now... he's not even my 2nd favorite memeber of the band... he's held them back from touring in the 80's, and up until exile re-issue, is a big reason why we haven't seen more vault releases... if anything, i think keith's book was a call to mick to remember, the rolling stones should come first, and as much as you can, it's the old stuff that still drives them today... and you can still be creative and maintain the legacy... what happens next, will be Jaggers real rsponse...
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Pdog.....wish it was true but I have a feeling there's a greater chance of Mick inviting Lady Do Do into the studio before he grinds out some classic new Stones with Keith
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Keith interview translated from FrankfurterRundschau:

"If I meet the devil, God help him"


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Pdog.....wish it was true but I have a feeling there's a greater chance of Mick inviting Lady Do Do into the studio before he grinds out some classic new Stones with Keith



they both need to be locked in a kitchen, somewhere in the winter, with very little heat and told by a producer, give me some work if you want food, otherwise enjoy sitting in there...
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Book Review Podcast: Keith Richards


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This week: A conversation with Keith Richards about the Rolling Stones and his new memoir, “Life”


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A not-so-complimentary view of Keith and one of the darker episodes mentioned in Life:  

Gimme Shelter: Keith Richards Still Raging Over Scott Cantrell Suicide


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(Dec. 1) -- Keith Richards' autobiography, "Life," is an international best seller and, as David Fricke of Rolling Stone calls it, "one of the greatest rock memoirs ever."

As a Stones junkie since the age of 11, I was eager to read the book, and in a lot of ways I think it's very good. But something jumped out at me -- sickeningly -- on pages 419 and 420.

In the passage, the 66-year-old rock legend recounts the apparent suicide that took place at his South Salem, N.Y., home in 1979. While he and the band were in Europe, 17-year-old Scott Cantrell shot himself in the head while allegedly playing Russian roulette in bed with Anita Pallenberg, Keith's infamous paramour and mother of several of his children.

It was shocking news then, and reading Keith's account years later, I can't believe how brutally unkind he is toward the poor kid.

I grew up in the South Salem area, and I remember meeting Cantrell, not long before his death. I'm sure it's easy to rage against a guy who slept with your wife. But it's years later, and Keith wasn't exactly known as Mr. Fidelity.

Indeed, "Life" doesn't deal with death very well.

At the time, according to the book, Keith and Anita were rich and powerful enough to get as high as they needed while remaining safe and sound within their protective rock 'n' roll womb. And though they had two young kids, parenthood did little to stem the nearly endless tide of shady characters, needles, pills and powders.

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This is the former Richards residence in South Salem, N.Y., where the suicide took place.


"Things went beyond the point of return with Anita when her young boyfriend blew his brains out in our house. ... The boy had shot himself in the face, playing Russian roulette, the story goes," Keith writes.

"I had met him. He was this crazy little kid, aged seventeen, Anita's boyfriend. I said to her, listen, baby, I'm leaving, we're over, we're finished, but this is not the guy for you. And he proved it. The reason she went with this guy, who was an absolute prick, was, I think, to piss me off."

Keith and Anita's son, Marlon, adds a brutal childhood memory of Scott, and remembers as a 9-year-old sneaking a peek of the "brain matter all over the walls" in the hours after the fatal shooting.

"He kept telling me -- a really nasty kid -- he kept saying he was going to shoot Keith, and that upset me, so I was kind of relieved when he shot himself," Marlon is quoted as saying.

"I don't think he intended to shoot himself, really, just an idiot of seventeen who was stoned, angry, playing with a pistol."

Let's just remember that we're talking about a minor, a local teenager who Keith and Anita brought into their home and allowed to become wrapped up in their bleak, addiction-laden web. I have no idea what the relationship was, but given what is documented in "Life," it's hard to imagine this kid being nearly as dangerous as the many bottom-feeders and vampires the Richards household regularly seemed to attract.

Just how bad an element could this suburban teen have been within the tawdry Richards bunker?

Pretty bad, according to the Richards men. A "prick." An "idiot." Gave a 9-year-old "relief" by killing himself.

Right after the death, People magazine covered the story and interviewed Cantrell's family.

"Anita did not bother to call the Cantrells the night of Scott's death, though [Scott's brother] Jim lives only minutes away, and his brother was alive for almost two hours after the shooting. Nor has Anita tried since to explain what happened. ...

"The Cantrells can muster little sympathy for Anita's problems. They are convinced that if Scott hadn't met her he would be alive today. 'People fail to understand that this was a 37-year-old woman and a 17-year-old child,' says Jim."

People also quoted from a then new book written by Keith's former aide Tony Sanchez. "Corruption of innocents became one of Keith and Anita's favorite pastimes," he writes.

Whatever happened, a teenager still shot himself in the head, leaving behind friends and loved ones. The attitude of Keith and Marlon Richards in "Life" seems brutally callous -- kicking the dead in the teeth.

Had I not met Scott myself, I probably would not have reacted as strongly to the passage. But I did, and without knowing about the darkness surrounding that house back then, my friends and I were thrilled to have a Rolling Stone in the neighborhood.

In this excerpt from my recent book, "Hello, It's Me: Dispatches From a Pop Culture Junkie," I write about that day we met Scott. To us, he just seemed like an easygoing guy who had struck gold -- a live-in opportunity with a Stone. But be careful what you wish for.


"Keith Richards" (Excerpt from "Hello, It's Me")

A kid in my high school sat a few of us down in the cafeteria with some highly top-secret news. A friend of his mother, a realtor, had just leased a house in nearby South Salem to none other than Keith Richards. For the next two years, we'd stake out the house on an almost weekly basis.

The house sat right near the road and we 17-year-old Stones freaks had it under surveillance constantly. When People magazine featured Mick and Keith on the cover, inside was a picture of Keith and his son Marlon on a tire swing that was right by the driveway. We snuck up and looked inside a greenhouse window that had been turned into a photo developing room -- incredibly, there were pictures of Jagger there on the front lawn of the house.

We'd dream up excuses to go to the door -- for instance, the day after the band's 1978 SNL appearance we thought he might be there, so we went hawking my little sister's candy bars for school. A nanny answered, called Marlon over to order a dozen or so bars and paid (inside, a huge portrait of Keith hung over a fireplace).

"Keith home?" I meekly asked.

"Sorry," she smiled sweetly. "He's in the city."

Cars with tinted windows came and went as we spent nights in our cars outside the house. We crept onto his lawn one night and swiped an axe -- not a guitar-but a real hatchet. But he was too elusive for us.

By 1979, we were graduating high school, moving on -- but we made one last stand at the Keith house that summer to see if he was there. The ruse that day was that our car was out of water and overheating. A buddy and I knocked on the door, and a young guy -- maybe a year older than us -- wearing a frock and holding a sheep-herding staff came around the house. He kindly gave us water, knowing (I think) what we were up to.

"Keith's not here, guys," he said. "He's in Europe."

Foiled again.

Not long after this odd meeting, in July, something terrible happened at the house. As papers around the world reported, a 17-year-old boy named Scott Cantrell shot himself in the head in actress Anita Pallenberg's bed with a gun owned by Keith Richards. According to reports, Cantrell had been employed as a part-time groundskeeper at the estate and was rumored to be involved with Pallenberg in an intimate relationship.

At the time of the shooting, Richards was in Paris recording with the Rolling Stones, but his son with Pallenberg, Marlon, was actually in the home when the tragedy occurred. Pallenberg was arrested, but Cantrell's death was ruled as a suicide in 1980, despite ongoing rumors that Pallenberg and Cantrell had been playing a game of Russian roulette with the gun. Fortunately for Pallenberg, the police investigation confirmed that she was not in the room or on the same floor of the home when the fatal shot was fired.

The kid who gave us water that day was Scott Cantrell, an oft-forgotten Stones casualty who got too close to the fire.

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Yep.  That villainous, calculating seventeen year old really had it coming, didn't he?  That is sad.  I find it even sadder that Marlon views it in the same way as Keith.
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I just finished reading KEEF's book. It's good, and I enjoyed it for the most part, but I was offended every time he said something bad about MICK. It's just because I always loved MICK more and always will. KEEF should have had more respect for MICK when writing the book. KEEF is a selfish deliberate prick IMO. No matter, I still admire KEEF anyway. Everyone is entitled to write their life story. I dont like KEEF very much now. He may be great at guitar playing, but he sucks as a person. IMO.
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I'm sorry Keith, aside from the pages about your childhood in Dartford, I don't think your book is very good.  Sad

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Reply #498 - Dec 6th, 2010 at 8:18pm
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Marlon is thankful that the kid who was saying he would shoot his father shot himself instead, right?
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Reply #499 - Dec 6th, 2010 at 9:17pm
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This is just wrong in so many ways....
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