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Reply #75 - Mar 5th, 2010 at 8:43am
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All right; here it is. "Time Waits For No One" ... something close to it, anyway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnkbpg1jxXs
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Reply #76 - Mar 5th, 2010 at 10:50am
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Mel Belli wrote on Mar 5th, 2010 at 8:43am:
All right; here it is. "Time Waits For No One" ... something close to it, anyway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnkbpg1jxXs



Nice one Mel !!

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Reply #77 - Mar 6th, 2010 at 12:52pm
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Quick clarification: I went back for a listen, and he's not playing A Aeolian. The song modulates to the key of C ... so he's just doing the C-major scale.
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Reply #78 - Mar 10th, 2010 at 5:26pm
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This thread almost got relegated to page two. Uh oh.

Ok, here's my attempt at Dance Little Sister.
It's pretty rough, don't expect much. I had to ease up on the Bigsby because I kept going out of tune.

What an unusual guitar MT plays here. Sounds like a Tele to me. Lot's of whammy bar vibrato's. Lot's of 'em . . .
And that 'hammer on - pull off' run throughout. Very unusual. Never heard that from MT before OR after this song.
Certainly the most unusual MT solo from his years in The Rolling Stones. The distortion on his guitar is also bizarre.
Sounds like there is a connection loose at times. Very coughy sounding.

This was the first album with produced by the Glimmer Twins, right?
Pretty mediocre mixing on this track, IMO. I can imagine them with their hands on the mixing levers, ready to fade out and then back in. And at some point they turn up Taylor's guitar so that it drowns out the rhythm of the song. I also noticed that a couple of Taylor's parts are overdubbed. I can still hear one note ringing as a new note starts. Poor mixing I think.

I only get about 3 minutes of video recording, so after a few attempts that cut off before I got near the end of the song, I decided to truncate the redundant sections. I wanted to get as many of the solo notes in as possible. I missed a few, oh well . . .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnVDYOisglI
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Reply #79 - Mar 10th, 2010 at 7:29pm
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That was sweet. The tone — appropriately nasty! I've noticed a lot of patience in your playing ... you hold bends and drop in the next phrase at exactly the right beat or accent. Me, I end up slurring lines because I'm too lazy to do it note for note.

Also: is it me, or was MT doing a bit of Joe Walsh/James Gang with that lead?
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Reply #80 - Mar 10th, 2010 at 8:05pm
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Hey: how about MT's "I Could Have Stood You Up" solo? Chuck Berry-ish, but never as simple as it seems.
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Reply #81 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 12:06pm
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Mel Belli wrote on Mar 10th, 2010 at 7:29pm:
That was sweet. The tone — appropriately nasty! I've noticed a lot of patience in your playing ... you hold bends and drop in the next phrase at exactly the right beat or accent. Me, I end up slurring lines because I'm too lazy to do it note for note.

Also: is it me, or was MT doing a bit of Joe Walsh/James Gang with that lead?



Thanks Mel. I have been trying to linger on certain notes, but my ears tell me I'm failing.
Interesting that you would comment on it. I guess I get it some times . . .

I had to listen to Dance Little Sister 30 times before I could remember the sequence of the different solos.
And I don't favor the Telecaster but wanted to get the twang, so I persisted.

Now, if I could get a rehearsal with this band:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv_cV3w7xlc
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Reply #82 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 1:23pm
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Apparently, the school of rock also doubles as fat camp.

That was mean.

I take it back.
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Reply #83 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 1:25pm
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Great, great job.  You say you don't care for the Tele, but it sounds awesome!  Taylor was so talented, sometimes I wish he played more often with a crunchier tone.

Anybody heard "Going Through the Door" from Taylor and Alvin Lee's tour?  He adds a nice slide solo, not quite on par with Love In Vain, but soulful nonetheless: https://www.yousendit.com/download/THE2NU1DSWVBNkVLSkE9PQ

And I loved his work on Talk Is Cheap, but I wish he had a longer solo on CHSYU (he shoulda had the second solo, but then again, it was KEITH's record).

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Reply #84 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 2:29pm
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Mel Belli wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 1:23pm:
Apparently, the school of rock also doubles as fat camp.

That was mean.

I take it back.



You gotta admit, they're damn cute.
Pretty obscure choice of songs though, huh?
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Reply #85 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 2:35pm
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Throwaway wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 1:25pm:
Great, great job.  You say you don't care for the Tele, but it sounds awesome!  Taylor was so talented, sometimes I wish he played more often with a crunchier tone.

Anybody heard "Going Through the Door" from Taylor and Alvin Lee's tour?  He adds a nice slide solo, not quite on par with Love In Vain, but soulful nonetheless: https://www.yousendit.com/download/THE2NU1DSWVBNkVLSkE9PQ

And I loved his work on Talk Is Cheap, but I wish he had a longer solo on CHSYU (he shoulda had the second solo, but then again, it was KEITH's record).



Agreed, Taylor was so far beyond his peers. His ability to implant a second melody is second to none.

I really like the MT solo on Alvin Lee's "Can't Stop" in 1981. Very kind of Alvin to give that solo to Mick.

And for Talk Is Cheap, I would have liked to hear Taylor's take on "Locked Away", although Keith does a fine job himself . . .

By the way, I thought of another Taylor whammy bar vibrato solo.
Dylan's 1984 tour, the Greg Sutton version of Imagination (Got To Use My).
If you get a chance, check out the Hamburg version. Stunning !!
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Reply #86 - Mar 11th, 2010 at 3:35pm
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fuman wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 2:35pm:
Throwaway wrote on Mar 11th, 2010 at 1:25pm:
Great, great job.  You say you don't care for the Tele, but it sounds awesome!  Taylor was so talented, sometimes I wish he played more often with a crunchier tone.

Anybody heard "Going Through the Door" from Taylor and Alvin Lee's tour?  He adds a nice slide solo, not quite on par with Love In Vain, but soulful nonetheless: https://www.yousendit.com/download/THE2NU1DSWVBNkVLSkE9PQ

And I loved his work on Talk Is Cheap, but I wish he had a longer solo on CHSYU (he shoulda had the second solo, but then again, it was KEITH's record).



Agreed, Taylor was so far beyond his peers. His ability to implant a second melody is second to none.

I really like the MT solo on Alvin Lee's "Can't Stop" in 1981. Very kind of Alvin to give that solo to Mick.

And for Talk Is Cheap, I would have liked to hear Taylor's take on "Locked Away", although Keith does a fine job himself . . .

By the way, I thought of another Taylor whammy bar vibrato solo.
Dylan's 1984 tour, the Greg Sutton version of Imagination (Got To Use My).
If you get a chance, check out the Hamburg version. Stunning !!


Seems to me he was in the same boat as Jeff Beck: couldn't pull off the Clapton two-step of singing and fronting a band as well as being a "virtuoso." MT's first solo album tried for the Beck-ian, muffled-snare fusion sound of the '70s, but I think it arrived far too late to be successful on those terms. Add to that the drug problems. Like Beck, too, MT wasn't heard from, recording-wise, for long stretches. But his chops are nowhere in the same shape as Beck's are today ... That guy seems to have reached a second peak.
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Reply #87 - Mar 15th, 2010 at 1:51pm
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I uploaded a vid of the ICHSYU solo, if for nothing else than to keep this thread alive. But the damn thing won't show up!
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Reply #88 - Mar 15th, 2010 at 3:13pm
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Okay, it's up now. Had to change something in the tags, it seems.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iL05GeyXZg
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Reply #89 - Mar 15th, 2010 at 3:16pm
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Mel Belli wrote on Mar 15th, 2010 at 1:51pm:
I uploaded a vid of the ICHSYU solo, if for nothing else than to keep this thread alive. But the damn thing won't show up!



It's there now. Nice one !! Crunchy !!!

I think it's probably in E flat due to Johnny Johnson's piano.
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Reply #90 - Mar 15th, 2010 at 3:52pm
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fuman wrote on Mar 15th, 2010 at 3:16pm:
Mel Belli wrote on Mar 15th, 2010 at 1:51pm:
I uploaded a vid of the ICHSYU solo, if for nothing else than to keep this thread alive. But the damn thing won't show up!



It's there now. Nice one !! Crunchy !!!

I think it's probably in E flat due to Johnny Johnson's piano.


Good point. Hadn't considered that. Chuck often played in sharps and flats, didn't he?
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Reply #91 - Mar 15th, 2010 at 3:58pm
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Mel Belli wrote on Mar 15th, 2010 at 3:52pm:
fuman wrote on Mar 15th, 2010 at 3:16pm:
Mel Belli wrote on Mar 15th, 2010 at 1:51pm:
I uploaded a vid of the ICHSYU solo, if for nothing else than to keep this thread alive. But the damn thing won't show up!



It's there now. Nice one !! Crunchy !!!

I think it's probably in E flat due to Johnny Johnson's piano.


Good point. Hadn't considered that. Chuck often played in sharps and flats, didn't he?


Yes, almost all . . .
I believe I heard Keith say most of Chuck's songs were actually Johnny Johnson's piano riffs (Hail Hail Rock and Roll?).
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Reply #92 - Mar 15th, 2010 at 4:01pm
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fuman wrote on Mar 15th, 2010 at 3:58pm:
Mel Belli wrote on Mar 15th, 2010 at 3:52pm:
fuman wrote on Mar 15th, 2010 at 3:16pm:
Mel Belli wrote on Mar 15th, 2010 at 1:51pm:
I uploaded a vid of the ICHSYU solo, if for nothing else than to keep this thread alive. But the damn thing won't show up!



It's there now. Nice one !! Crunchy !!!

I think it's probably in E flat due to Johnny Johnson's piano.


Good point. Hadn't considered that. Chuck often played in sharps and flats, didn't he?


Yes, almost all . . .
I believe I heard Keith say most of Chuck's songs were actually Johnny Johnson's piano riffs (Hail Hail Rock and Roll?).


Keith's boosting of Johnnie's reputation — and his apparent encouragement of that lawsuit against Chuck — has not sat well with Chuck, I don't think Smiley
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Reply #93 - Mar 15th, 2010 at 4:24pm
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thanks for theses vids ...most enjoyable....
two quick idea...
I hear some similarity in MT's playing and that of Danny Kirwan from Fleetwood mac....especially when MT uses his faster vibrato..both have an innocent quality to my ears..
then, I would point out with no disrespect to Johnny Johnson that Lafayette Leak, n Otis Spann play on many of those records.....
again BIG THANKS for the vids.
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Reply #94 - Mar 15th, 2010 at 4:44pm
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Happy to do it — as well as watch others doing same ... I'm thinking about introducing some piano vids. It's not my strong suit, but I can fairly well get through some Nicky Hopkins riffs, like the "Loving Cup" intro and bits of "Let It Loose."

Any ideas, guitar or otherwise?
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Reply #95 - Mar 16th, 2010 at 11:06am
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I know many ROers don't share the love for Short and Curlies, but if you're doing a piano session, you gotta include that one!  Always thought this tune shoulda been played ilve, if for nothing else it would only consume < 3 minutes of concert time! 

I been away over the weekend, but looks like you did well on CHSYU - an interesting era for Taylor, but he definitely seemed to try to play like KEITH on that one (check out Keith's Black Limo solo from Stripped, going from major to minor blues scales).
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Reply #96 - Mar 16th, 2010 at 11:33am
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Problem is, I don't have a tripod. I just recorded the right hand of the "Loving Cup" intro (the right hand, at least) with my Droid phone, but I can't get doubleTwist to talk to YouTube. I looked into converting the video file and downloaded Handbreak, but I can't seem to get that software to find any of my media files!
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Reply #97 - Mar 16th, 2010 at 2:37pm
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Fortunately for all here, I do not have the ability to film myself misplaying this stuff...I think the first MT solo I got straight was Hide your love and then I dug through ya yas because...well because I needed to know how all that stuff was played...Ya yas along with the Muddy Waters blue sky lps were what drove me to play guitar.....How do they do that kinda thing.
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Reply #98 - Mar 17th, 2010 at 2:21am
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Fantastic stuff

Mel Belli wrote on Mar 15th, 2010 at 4:44pm:
Any ideas, guitar or otherwise?


Snowy Wood (the Beano's Boys version?)
Gimme Shelter live
Shine A Light

Of course, whatever you add would be greatly appreciated.

By the way, who do you think is playing the main rhythm on Star Star?  One channel has a prominent boogie rhythm, the other has a secondary version of this rhythm and the multi-stop "lead" that starts in the other channel and pans to this channel.  (The lead break is mono as far as I recall and is not what I'm referring to.)  

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Reply #99 - Mar 17th, 2010 at 6:03am
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smokeydusky wrote on Mar 17th, 2010 at 2:21am:
Fantastic stuff

Mel Belli wrote on Mar 15th, 2010 at 4:44pm:
Any ideas, guitar or otherwise?


Snowy Wood (the Beano's Boys version?)
Gimme Shelter live
Shine A Light

Of course, whatever you add would be greatly appreciated.

By the way, who do you think is playing the main rhythm on Star Star?  One channel has a prominent boogie rhythm, the other has a secondary version of this rhythm and the multi-stop "lead" that starts in the other channel and pans to this channel.  (The lead break is mono as far as I recall and is not what I'm referring to.)  



Pretty sure it's MJ on rhythm, Keith lead, and MT on bass.
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