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Reply #100 - Mar 17th, 2010 at 10:38am
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I vote for MT rhythm, KR lead.

It's a very smooth & playful rhythm, I doubt Jagger has that ability on guitar.
Interested in other insights or perspectives . . .
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Reply #101 - Mar 17th, 2010 at 11:34am
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Yeah, just listened to it: it's MT.

I don't know why I thought otherwise. Maybe it's because I've always assumed MJ wrote the song and, as with latter-day Stones, when that's the case, he usually plays rhythm. Back then, not so much.
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Reply #102 - Mar 19th, 2010 at 2:45pm
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Okay, keeping the Mick Taylor Appreciation Society alive!

Here's a perhaps not-so-well-known solo—"Never Fall in Love Again":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olgt10Vk8HQ
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Reply #103 - Mar 19th, 2010 at 5:44pm
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Mel Belli wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 2:45pm:
Okay, keeping the Mick Taylor Appreciation Society alive!

Here's a perhaps not-so-well-known solo—"Never Fall in Love Again":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olgt10Vk8HQ




Nice job! Love this song.

I followed my heart, now I'm walking on stony ground . . .
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Reply #104 - Mar 19th, 2010 at 6:27pm
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fuman wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 5:44pm:
Mel Belli wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 2:45pm:
Okay, keeping the Mick Taylor Appreciation Society alive!

Here's a perhaps not-so-well-known solo—"Never Fall in Love Again":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olgt10Vk8HQ




Nice job! Love this song.

I followed my heart, now I'm walking on stony ground . . .


You need to spend more time in here, Fuman, rather than the Obama thread. I just took a peek in there—it's a damn hornet's nest! Trust me; I live "inside the Beltway" ... stuff is bad for your health, no pun intended Smiley

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Reply #105 - Mar 19th, 2010 at 8:06pm
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Mel Belli wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 6:27pm:
fuman wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 5:44pm:
Mel Belli wrote on Mar 19th, 2010 at 2:45pm:
Okay, keeping the Mick Taylor Appreciation Society alive!

Here's a perhaps not-so-well-known solo—"Never Fall in Love Again":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olgt10Vk8HQ




Nice job! Love this song.

I followed my heart, now I'm walking on stony ground . . .


You need to spend more time in here, Fuman, rather than the Obama thread. I just took a peek in there—it's a damn hornet's nest! Trust me; I live "inside the Beltway" ... stuff is bad for your health, no pun intended Smiley




Thanks Mel, that's good advice. The politics in America has taken years off of my life, I'm sure.
But I can't just let it go. I would rather age prematurely than let it go down the toilet without a peep from me.
Anyway, I appreciate your comment, and that you posted it in here away from that noise . . .

A close friend of mine in San Francisco gets pretty frustrated with my new (4 year's now?) highly political personality. He shuts me down when I start to go there, which is fine. He's heard all of my ranting. "What's new in Rolling Stones news" is his method.
Speaking of Grady (that's my SF friend), I was telling him about your Stones riff thread and more specifically, the song choices that you have made. He was very impressed (and I am too). I mean, "Oh Virginia"? That is a fantastic choice for a Taylor solo. Very obscure too. And Could Have Stood You Up is as well. Then you select Never Fall In Love! I told him about this new thread a while ago, when you had just put up Angie. He mentioned If You Really Want To Be My Friend as a similar soaring solo, so that's where I got the idea to post that one.

He has been taping Mick Taylor shows in the San Francisco area since 1984, when he bought his first portable deck. Had a nice collection when I met him in 2001. Lot's of tape trading I guess. He isn't online yet !!

Ok, time for dinner . . .
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Reply #106 - Mar 20th, 2010 at 7:43am
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I'm just glad I'm not the only MT obsessive around here. It's possible there are ... dozens of us! Smiley

This thread has been great practice, if nothing else. When I put up the first video, I was sort of like, "Here's how it goes, you can figure out the details." Then you put up "Sympathy" and "Angie." I said, "Oh, crap! He actually knows them note for note!"

That got me motivated to hit the woodshed, so to speak.

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Reply #107 - Mar 21st, 2010 at 12:38pm
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I feel ashamed - I didn't even recognize "Never Fall In Love Again"!  I'll have to go back and listen to Stones Throw..it's been a while.  I don't know much about his time in JM's Bluesbreakers...did he have any ripping solos on their albums?
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Reply #108 - Mar 21st, 2010 at 4:46pm
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All right ... here's a little surprise for a beautiful Sunday afternoon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK0Ivdwnwxs
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Reply #109 - Mar 21st, 2010 at 5:45pm
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That's awesome Mel!  Didn't know you played.   It sounded sweet!  I bet you enjoy playing Love In Vain on that bad boy. 

If you're into the NM Allstars, Squirrel Nut Zippers, or Alvin YB Hart, you should check out the South Memphis String Band - they'll be in Alexandria in a few weeks (I'm seeing them in Philly) - and they play only acoustic instruments, with a mandolin on just about every song (Luther and Alvin both play).
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Reply #110 - Mar 21st, 2010 at 6:28pm
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Throwaway wrote on Mar 21st, 2010 at 5:45pm:
That's awesome Mel!  Didn't know you played.   It sounded sweet!  I bet you enjoy playing Love In Vain on that bad boy.  

If you're into the NM Allstars, Squirrel Nut Zippers, or Alvin YB Hart, you should check out the South Memphis String Band - they'll be in Alexandria in a few weeks (I'm seeing them in Philly) - and they play only acoustic instruments, with a mandolin on just about every song (Luther and Alvin both play).


Thanks! ... First heard of Alvin through the "Paint It Blue" project years ago, but haven't kept up since. I'll take a gander at the SMSB. Thanks for the tout!
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Reply #111 - Mar 23rd, 2010 at 8:17pm
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My pleasure.  Their album is on iTunes.

I've been working on the slide, but I kinda suck at it.  I know it ain't MT, but have you tried playing Ry's part on "Sister Morphine?"  I know it lasts the whole song, but he's got a few signature licks on there that he repeats.  Anyone know if he's in standard?  I really am a slide noob...I usually stick to the G and occasionally B strings.
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Reply #112 - Mar 23rd, 2010 at 9:26pm
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I just snooped around Google ... consensus out there seems to be that Cooder used open-D for "Sister." I've actually never tried it before. I'll check it out soon! In the meantime, those who Know—feel free to enlighten us.
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Reply #113 - Mar 23rd, 2010 at 10:59pm
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Mel

Thanks for all the work you've uploaded to YouTube! It's great to see someone with a better ear play those tunes. With respect to your Winter video...can you show me (us) the first two chords you are using for the rhythm part...i find it hard to see from the video.

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Reply #114 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 7:38am
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Sure thing! Mick Jagger's part seems to start with (low to high) this D chord: x-0-4-2-3-0 or maybe x-x-0-2-5-0 and then to an A — x-0-2-2-2-0. My ears tell me that MT, whose rhythm fill is at the other end of the neck, is around the seventh and ninth frets and the third, fourth, and fifth strings. Hope that's helpful!
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Reply #115 - Apr 6th, 2010 at 11:27am
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Selfishly, I refuse to let this die!

Here's a cool E Dorian lick that MT used on "Slow Blues":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8CK8wgExRI
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Reply #116 - Apr 6th, 2010 at 4:11pm
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Cool video, always been a fan of "Slow Blues" (and "Blues in the Morning").  I don't know too much about scales, but I'll definitely play around with this one on some blues, it seems like a signature MT scale. 

Any tips on amp settings to get the MT sound?  (bass, mid, treble, drive)  His solo-record sounds were a mix between twang/blues.
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Reply #117 - Apr 6th, 2010 at 4:35pm
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Mel Belli wrote on Apr 6th, 2010 at 11:27am:
Selfishly, I refuse to let this die!

Here's a cool E Dorian lick that MT used on "Slow Blues":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8CK8wgExRI



Cool! That's the lick of the entire album, IMO. Didn't know it's called an E Dorian scale/sequence, thanks . . .


And I bet you two sticks, and a home, and a dog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkbDEWI90bc
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Reply #118 - Apr 6th, 2010 at 4:38pm
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cool stuff guys...making lurking here good fun. thanks.
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Reply #119 - Apr 6th, 2010 at 5:08pm
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fuman wrote on Apr 6th, 2010 at 4:35pm:
Mel Belli wrote on Apr 6th, 2010 at 11:27am:
Selfishly, I refuse to let this die!

Here's a cool E Dorian lick that MT used on "Slow Blues":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8CK8wgExRI



Cool! That's the lick of the entire album, IMO. Didn't know it's called an E Dorian scale/sequence, thanks . . .


And I bet you two sticks, and a home, and a dog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkbDEWI90bc


I never had any idea what that line was! Had to do a double-take. Really sweet playing there ... Just when you think MT was finished with a phrase, he was already in the middle of the next one. He's like a chess player, always thinking a couple moves ahead...
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Reply #120 - Apr 6th, 2010 at 5:15pm
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I noticed on the header video of Mick Taylor, that he's not using a pick, just his fingers, Jeff Beck is another one that does this, not a lot of Rock guitarist's use their fingers.
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Reply #121 - Apr 6th, 2010 at 5:19pm
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Heart Of Stone wrote on Apr 6th, 2010 at 5:15pm:
I noticed on the header video of Mick Taylor, that he's not using a pick, just his fingers, Jeff Beck is another one that does this, not a lot of Rock guitarist's use their fingers.


Goes so far as to use thumb and finger picks here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-Bk6namUxg&playnext_from=TL&videos=fzZlB0HTaqo&f...

I could never really get into those. They're too long and get in the way. Plus, you get better tone with actual skin.
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Reply #122 - Apr 6th, 2010 at 5:27pm
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Fuman!  Great song choice, you got a real good sense of timing in your playing on this one.  Tone sounds real sweet too - what amp/settings you using?
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Reply #123 - Apr 6th, 2010 at 6:55pm
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Throwaway wrote on Apr 6th, 2010 at 4:11pm:
Cool video, always been a fan of "Slow Blues" (and "Blues in the Morning").  I don't know too much about scales, but I'll definitely play around with this one on some blues, it seems like a signature MT scale.  

Any tips on amp settings to get the MT sound?  (bass, mid, treble, drive)  His solo-record sounds were a mix between twang/blues.


I've got a January '09 issue of Guitar Techniques magazine. A little featurette on MT has suggested amp settings of Gain at 5; Bass, 6; Middle, 6; Treble, 5; and Reverb, 2.

Along with this note:
"Mick's best known as a Les Paul man, although he's used SGs, Teles and Strats and still sounds like himself, so basically use whatever you have. The trick is to go easy on the gain and learn to use the guitar's controls; it's retro-style power valve overdrive we're after rather than pre-amp distortion. A good quality medium-sized valve combo with a fairly neutral EQ setting, turned up loud with either a low-gain overdrive channel selected or one of the more blues-style overdrives out there in front, again still hovering around the lower gain settings, should get you in the right ballpark."

Seems pretty reasonable to me...
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Reply #124 - Apr 6th, 2010 at 8:44pm
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I have a Peavey Classic 30, which I always set clean. Just a little volume.

A friend recommended the Ibanez Tube King, which doesn't really break up too much for distortion, but provides EQ via 3 tone gain knobs.  On these 3 knobs I use 5 for bass, 7 for mid, and 5 for treble. I do use the reverb in the Classic 30 but that's all.

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The YouTube sound is completely different than the sound in the room. Probably cheap mics of my old digital camera?
I'm limited to 3 minutes, so it's always a challenge to choreograph the parts. I'm already bothered by what I left out. Damn.


Mel's Factory Girl was fun, eh? I never bought a mandolin, but I wanted one and was very close on numerous occasions.
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