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Reply #25 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 4:26pm
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24 years gone...
RIP, Stu.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Stewart_(musician)

Does anyone know what exactly he did on UNDERCOVER??? I just got the 2009 release...and am really loving it...(I always did)...also...it states in the WIKI article he did not play on BB...why was this?!?
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Ginda wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 12:05pm:
The Loog had his head up his ass when he decided Stu didn't fit the image.  He made them better.  RIP


8 years ago I asked Andrew Loog Oldham why he fired him, this was his answer word-by-word

“Gerardo, I did not fire Stu, that was not within my power to do. I just told the Stones that I did not think the English public, because that's all we were dealing with at the time, were capable of being sold an image factor that contained six people. If the band had said, "Andrew, you can't do that" then Stu would have stayed in the band. This would have made a great difference as to what their future would have been and raises the question of whether you'd have been writing me a letter today on any issue on the Stones, had Stu stayed.

"I don't know but I was right at the time. How do I feel as a man in his mid-fifties with knowledge now about decisions that cause pain to others? Obviously different, but we were teenagers or in our early twenties, well, all except Bill, and at that age youth is invincible and does not know the meaning of hurt, except in matters of the teenage heart. It remains a good decision. If you saw a member of Supertramp or Los Lobos down on the corner I doubt you'd recognise more than one or two members. Life's got a short attention span when you work from nine to five and need to be entertained. Pop music is not a memory test, it's an escape and an entertainment. Over the years the Stones have got away with "Andrew fired Stu" - life is not as simple as they'd like that statement to be."


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Later in an interview, I think the one by Lisa Robinson he told that he was happy that way, not being a member of the Rolling Stones but being with them full time
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Teiz wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 3:05pm:
Great Header, great thread honouring a big man. RIP stu watching how stupid we are LOL


This was the first header this year, courtesy of Fabio "Hot Stuff" (Can't get enough)

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Reply #30 - Dec 13th, 2009 at 11:03pm
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Voodoo Chile in Wonderland wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 9:51pm:
Ginda wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 12:05pm:
The Loog had his head up his ass when he decided Stu didn't fit the image.  He made them better.  RIP


8 years ago I asked Andrew Loog Oldham why he fired him, this was his answer word-by-word

“Gerardo, I did not fire Stu, that was not within my power to do. I just told the Stones that I did not think the English public, because that's all we were dealing with at the time, were capable of being sold an image factor that contained six people. If the band had said, "Andrew, you can't do that" then Stu would have stayed in the band. This would have made a great difference as to what their future would have been and raises the question of whether you'd have been writing me a letter today on any issue on the Stones, had Stu stayed.

"I don't know but I was right at the time. How do I feel as a man in his mid-fifties with knowledge now about decisions that cause pain to others? Obviously different, but we were teenagers or in our early twenties, well, all except Bill, and at that age youth is invincible and does not know the meaning of hurt, except in matters of the teenage heart. It remains a good decision. If you saw a member of Supertramp or Los Lobos down on the corner I doubt you'd recognise more than one or two members. Life's got a short attention span when you work from nine to five and need to be entertained. Pop music is not a memory test, it's an escape and an entertainment. Over the years the Stones have got away with "Andrew fired Stu" - life is not as simple as they'd like that statement to be."


Shit!

Later in an interview, I think the one by Lisa Robinson he told that he was happy that way, not being a member of the Rolling Stones but being with them full time


Thanks Voodoo.  What other questions did you ask him?  I think it's interesting he still thinks it was the right call.  No way of telling now whether it was or wasn't, but I can tell you as a fan from day one that having Stu as a Stone would not have put me off at all.  That the Stones like to credit/blame ALO for "firing" Stu isn't a total surprise.
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Reply #32 - Dec 14th, 2009 at 11:50am
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Paranoid Android wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 9:03pm:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Stewart_(musician)

Does anyone know what exactly he did on UNDERCOVER??? I just got the 2009 release...and am really loving it...(I always did)...also...it states in the WIKI article he did not play on BB...why was this?!?


Undercover album credits by nzentgraf.de

Line-up ‘Undercover’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr)/RW (gtr)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)/
                               Chuck Leavell (keyb)/Sly Dunbar (perc)
                 Line-up ‘She Was Hot’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr)/RW (gtr)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)/
                               STU (p)/Chuck Leavell (p)
 
                Line-up ‘Tie You Up’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr, bvoc)/RW (gtr, bass, bvoc)/CW
                               (dr)/Chuck Leavell (p)
                 Line-up ‘Wanna Hold You’: KR (voc, gtr)/RW (gtr, bass, bvoc)/CW (dr)
                 Line-up ‘Feel On Baby’: MJ (voc, harm)/KR (gtr, voc)/ RW (gtr)/CW (dr)/
                               Chuck Leavell (keyb)/Robbie Shakespeare (bass)/Sly Dunbar (perc)
                 Line-up ‘Too Much Blood’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr)/RW (gtr)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)/
                                Chuck Leavell (keyb)/Jim Barber (gtr)/The Sugarhill Horn Section
                                CHOPS (horns)/Sly Dunbar (perc)
                 Line-up ‘Pretty Beat Up’: MJ (voc, gtr)/KR (bass, bvoc)/RW (gtr, bvoc)/BW
                               (p)/CW (dr)/STU (org)/David Sanborn (sax)/The Sugarhill Horn
                                Section CHOPS (horns)

                 Line-up ‘Too Tough’: MJ (voc, gtr)/KR (gtr)/RW (gtr)/BW (bass)/CW (dr)/
                               Chuck Leavell (p)
                 Line-up: ‘All The Way Down’: MJ (voc, gtr)/KR (gtr, bvoc)/ RW (gtr, bvoc)/
                                BW (bass)/CW (dr)/Chuck Leavell (el p)
                 Line-up ‘It Must Be Hell’: MJ (voc)/KR (gtr, bvoc)/RW (gtr, bvoc)/BW
                               (bass)/CW (dr)/Chuck Leavell (p)
                 Note: Lots of percussion was played on the album by BW, STU, Moustapha
                           Cisse, Brahms Coundoul, Martin Ditcham and Sly Dunbar.


Nicky Hopkins plays all of the piano parts on 'Beggars Banquet'. Why not Stu? Probably more to do with different styles than anything. Hopkins played most of the piano parts for the years he worked with the Stones as he was technically more versatile I suppose. Stu was more of a boogie-woogie type of player. He plays piano on tracks such as 'Jumpin Jack Flash', 'Let It Bleed' , 'Brown Sugar', 'Dead Flowers', 'Honky Tonk Women', 'Shake Your Hips', 'Stop Breaking Down', 'Silver Train' and 'Starfucker', 'IORR' and 'Dance Little Sister' from that 1968-74 era but thats about it as far as the studio releases go.
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Reply #33 - Dec 14th, 2009 at 12:29pm
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Stu's appearance didn't fit in with the other Stones.   [/quote]


And it didn’t: in hindsight, it may seem cruel, but teenage girls were not going to be drawn to a guy who looked old fashioned and out of place. He wore polo shirts and sported a quiff. He became their roadie and was appreciated greatly by all. Andrew made the right call.

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gone but never forgotten - you are much missed Mr Stewart.
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Stu's appearance didn't fit in with the other Stones.  



And it didn’t: in hindsight, it may seem cruel, but teenage girls were not going to be drawn to a guy who looked old fashioned and out of place. He wore polo shirts and sported a quiff. He became their roadie and was appreciated greatly by all. Andrew made the right call.

RIP Stu.
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I pretty much agree with everything you said.  He looked more like a someones dad then a member of a pop group and that's a shame it mattered but it did.  What's a quiff?

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What's a quiff?


A hairstyle...

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StPeteStone wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 6:15pm:
What's a quiff?


A hairstyle...

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And WHAT a hairstyle.  Thank you kindly.
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Honky Tonk Man wrote on Dec 14th, 2009 at 12:29pm:
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Stu's appearance didn't fit in with the other Stones.  



And it didn’t: in hindsight, it may seem cruel, but teenage girls were not going to be drawn to a guy who looked old fashioned and out of place. He wore polo shirts and sported a quiff. He became their roadie and was appreciated greatly by all. Andrew made the right call.

RIP Stu.


I pretty much agree with everything you said.  He looked more like a someones dad then a member of a pop group and that's a shame it mattered but it did.  What's a quiff?

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Maybe he did (or he and the other Stones) made the right call.  My point was that I've always had eyes for the Mickster, so Stu wouldn't have influenced me one way or the other.  Water under the bridge now.
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Other header, as you can see Stu could have had a better look, even as an early punk

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Ginda wrote on Dec 13th, 2009 at 11:03pm:
Thanks Voodoo.  What other questions did you ask him?  I think it's interesting he still thinks it was the right call.  No way of telling now whether it was or wasn't, but I can tell you as a fan from day one that having Stu as a Stone would not have put me off at all.  That the Stones like to credit/blame ALO for "firing" Stu isn't a total surprise.


It was back in 2001, dotmusic made something like a "interview by the fans" that was the only I made and the one he selected as the very first in the final document and the one with more details and exlpanations.

He can't sleep because of that LOL

stu watching how stupid we are LOL stu-smiling
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