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Re: Ronnie arrested
Reply #125 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 10:37am

Given any potential dollar loss due to RONNIE, the decision will always side with turning a profit. If the STONES camp fears it will hurt revenue, this could change everything. Ronnie could be kicked out, if it's too risky to keep him. The court of public opinion has been known to judge harshly! Especially on the issues of domestic violence and cheating husbands. When the shit hits the fan, I'll be sitting on the can, when the whip comes down,

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Re: Ronnie arrested
Reply #127 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 10:38am

Pdog wrote on Dec 4^th, 2009 at 10:30am:

LadyJane wrote on Dec 4^th, 2009 at 8:57am:

A few grand???
GULP.

Time to start turning tricks cause I'll be there no matter WHAT it takes.

All I want for Xmas is to see The Stones one more time (that's going in my tagline)

Can you imagine how we will all feel to see them hit that stage again???!!!!!
No one will scream louder or cry harder than me!! And GTRM!!!! Oh and SV......etc, etc.

LJ.

If you want to go to as many shows as you did last time, you will need to be ready to throw at least 10,000 down... those $500 tix will be close to double that, and then add in per diems to travel ect... 6 plus shows, right? Like I did... double the cost easy. I'm not even considering going outside of my state... Dallas, San Antonio, Houston or Austin and that is if I even will go at all...

I cannot do what I did in the past due to my lifestyle changes ie NO MORE CREDIT CARDS.

NYC and Chicago. Those are MUST GO to cities.
And my dream of Europe.
And maybe South Florida.
and.......................

Hopeless.
LJ.

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LadyJane Rocks Off Regular Offline Stones Purist Posts: 4,929 Gender:	Re: Ronnie arrested Reply #129 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 10:40am Does my heart good to see us get excited and IN HARMONY when Tour talk starts!!!! LJ. SV..LOVE the new sig pic!!!
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LadyJane Rocks Off Regular Offline Stones Purist Posts: 4,929 Gender:	Re: Ronnie arrested Reply #130 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 10:43am SweetVirginia wrote on Dec 4^th, 2009 at 10:39am: Promise me that nobody in the ROCC will wear that dress that is in the header! I would rip it off anyone that dared to show up in that piece of trash. Word. I was stuck in an abusive relationship when I was in my early 20's. NEVER AGAIN. LJ.
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Re: Ronnie arrested
Reply #131 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 10:43am

Make no doubt about, he IS replaceable if the other members are ready to tour. There is too much money at stake and unless it's a lead singer or in some cases a lead guitarist, replacing members doesn't really affect the bottom line. Even if 10,000 people stay home solely because Ronnie isn't there, whoever replaces him will be making far less and it would offset any fan attrition.

And I have had many shows cancelled from under me in recent years or seen shows with replacement members due to visa issues. (Hanoi Rocks, Paul D'ianno, Rose Tattoo, Pete Way of UFO).

Personally I am more worried about being subjected to substandard performances such as Werchter 2007 than showing up minus a member.

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Re: Ronnie arrested
Reply #132 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 10:59am

Well I hate to kick a man when he's down, but if financial concerns could make them drop Ronnie I'll take it, musical concerns should have done that years ago, let's see...1984 maybe, when he fell off the wagon the first time with his freebasing. Nice guy, huge liability.

Thing is, who are thy going to draft in? Waddy Wachtel is a good player but looks like a creep and has had "legal issues"...the obivous replacement is...Mick Taylor of course, he'd need to lose about 80 pounds though, he'd probably go for it and he's legit, musically and historically.

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Re: Ronnie arrested
Reply #133 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 11:38am

gotdablouse wrote on Dec 4^th, 2009 at 10:59am:

Well I hate to kick a man when he's down, but if financial concerns could make them drop Ronnie I'll take it, musical concerns should have done that years ago, let's see...1984 maybe, when he fell off the wagon the first time with his freebasing. Nice guy, huge liability.

Thing is, who are thy going to draft in? Waddy Wachtel is a good player but looks like a creep and has had "legal issues"...the obivous replacement is...Mick Taylor of course, he'd need to lose about 80 pounds though, he'd probably go for it and he's legit, musically and historically.

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gotdablouse Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,002 Paris, France Gender:	Re: Ronnie arrested Reply #134 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 11:43am Not a bad idea actually, the guy is much more talented as seen on some YouTube videos than what he's shown on stage with the Stones so far. It would be less "charged" than bringing Taylor back too.
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Re: Ronnie arrested
Reply #135 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 12:47pm

BILL PERKS wrote on Dec 4^th, 2009 at 8:55am:

Gazza wrote on Dec 4^th, 2009 at 8:41am:

I wasnt just referring to solo albums. What other 'projects' has he been involved with since the last tour ended? None that I can see. So I can't see how he's doing anything that would detract from any involvement with the Stones.

The 'Charlie quitting' story has already been dismissed as garbage as well. Which it is.

There's nothing 'concrete' about a tour purely because thats the way these people do business. They dont announce anything until things are signed, sealed and delivered. However, as you well know, a tour doesnt just materialise out of nowhere around the time they do their regular publicity stunt in New York to announce it. Things kick in several months before that. And THAT isn't speculative.

The Stones will be touring in 2010. I've no doubt about that. This time next year I'm sure your wallet will be a few grand lighter once again and you'll be quite happy about it! Wink

I ACTUALLY THINK I'M GONNA SIT THIS LAST CASH COW OUT AND KEEP MY MONEY..THE GOOD PERFORMANCES ARE BECOMING FEWER AND FARTHER BETWEEN..MY LAST SHOW WAS ATLANTIC CITY 2006 AND I THINK THATS MY LAST..I'D MUCH PREFER AN NEW ALBUM BUT I KNOW I'M IN THE MINORITY THERE.. THE FACT THAT 2 MEMBERS OF THE BAND ABSOLUTLEY SUCK AT WHAT THEY DO HAS WORN ME DOWN...THEY CAN'T REPLACE RONNIE CUZ KEITH WOULD MAKE IT TOO DIFFICULT FOR THAT PERSON TO FIT IN AND ACTUALLY PLAY THEIR INSTRUMENT..

That would be a perfect show to call your last too...IT WAS AMAZING!!!

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Joey Rocks Off Regular Online Posts: 20,652 Omaha , NE Gender:	Re: Ronnie arrested Reply #137 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 1:24pm " ...Mick Taylor of course, he'd need to lose about 80 pounds though " 80 ... ?! EIGHTY * ( 80 ) * .. ?! .... !!!!!! * WTF ?! * " Hit Me Ronnie " Joey Wood ! ™
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steel driving hammer Ex Member	Re: Ronnie arrested Reply #138 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 2:13pm There goes my baby w/ someone new, She sure looks happy, I sure am blue. I'm a-through with romance, I'm through with love. I'm through with-a countin', The stars above. And here's reason, that I'm so free, My lovin' baby, is a through with me. Bye Bye Love... Hello Rolling Stones...
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Re: Ronnie arrested
Reply #141 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 5:30pm

gotdablouse wrote on Dec 4^th, 2009 at 10:59am:

Well I hate to kick a man when he's down, but if financial concerns could make them drop Ronnie I'll take it, musical concerns should have done that years ago, let's see...1984 maybe, when he fell off the wagon the first time with his freebasing. Nice guy, huge liability.

Thing is, who are thy going to draft in? Waddy Wachtel is a good player but looks like a creep and has had "legal issues"...the obivous replacement is...Mick Taylor of course, he'd need to lose about 80 pounds though, he'd probably go for it and he's legit, musically and historically.

IMO if they replace Wood it would have to be either Taylor or another high profile, well respected "God" like Clapton or Beck. And they'd have to make him a Stone and include him in all the promos for it to go over well with the casual fans, their main audience. There are plenty of people good enough for the part, but people will be disappointed if they don't recognize him.

I know I'm gonna get flamed for this but I would love to see Slash with the Stones as well. He's got the swagger and the "God" status. And he's a sloppy blues player much like Woody and Keith. Also Izzy's rhythm guitar style is very similar to Keith's so he has a lot of practice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVX0a_Xipyw

I wanna keep Ronnie though.

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left shoe shuffle Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 4,141	Re: Ronnie arrested Reply #142 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 5:46pm Disagree with the premise that if Ronnie is replaced it has to be with a name or a "God". And the SS Taylor sailed 35 years ago... A lesser known guy with serious chops could bring some real fire to the band, and more importantly, not run the risk of showing up Keef.
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Teiz Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 573 Almere, Amsterdams ugly twin Gender:	Re: Ronnie arrested Reply #143 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 6:08pm Taylor is the only option. It would be ridiculous if they pick up a fresh face. Clapton or Beck would probably mean some cool shows, but it wouldn't be the Stones anymore for me. I'd probably check it out though.
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gotdablouse Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,002 Paris, France Gender:	Re: Ronnie arrested Reply #144 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 6:13pm And Taylor means "Time waits for no one" ! That setup would work for me and Blondie can step up his playing a bit and switch to electric to supplement Keith who certainly won't be playing any better than the last time.
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Re: Ronnie arrested
Reply #145 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 6:14pm

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gotdablouse wrote on Dec 4^th, 2009 at 10:59am:

Well I hate to kick a man when he's down, but if financial concerns could make them drop Ronnie I'll take it, musical concerns should have done that years ago, let's see...1984 maybe, when he fell off the wagon the first time with his freebasing. Nice guy, huge liability.

Thing is, who are thy going to draft in? Waddy Wachtel is a good player but looks like a creep and has had "legal issues"...the obivous replacement is...Mick Taylor of course, he'd need to lose about 80 pounds though, he'd probably go for it and he's legit, musically and historically.

IMO if they replace Wood it would have to be either Taylor or another high profile, well respected "God" like Clapton or Beck. And they'd have to make him a Stone and include him in all the promos for it to go over well with the casual fans, their main audience. There are plenty of people good enough for the part, but people will be disappointed if they don't recognize him.

This guy I know who manages tribute acts as well as promoting the occassional retro packages with a backing band and the singer with the few hits coming up and singing thier song then making way for the next one hit wonder once told me "The people are coming to hear the songs, they don't care who is playing them." I would have to say he is right. He would be missed by the die-hards but the masses would shrug as they are enjoying the hits they came to hear.

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Re: Ronnie arrested
Reply #146 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 6:19pm

How would MT feel about playing material recorded during the Ronnie years? Or,what about a new album. Highly doubtful Taylor would play on that. As much as I love the Taylor era.It ain't gonna happen. Let's face it. It's gonna be Ronnie on the next tour. He'll get the stern warnings,from the Stones stern warning dept. He'll dump Kat. Their will be little or no legal repercussions. The scary part for Ronnie will be after the next tour ends.

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gotdablouse Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,002 Paris, France Gender:	Re: Ronnie arrested Reply #148 - Dec 4^th, 2009 at 6:26pm Besides Ronnie has played very little guitar on the new albums since...Undercover maybe, that was just before he fell off the wagon for the first time...wait Dirty Work, not sure he plays that much really, it was said at the time that Keith gave him the credits to help him recover.
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