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So What's The Deal With This Album? ....from Ian
Oct 18^th, 2009 at 11:13pm

*Well ....I certainly realize entirely that I am the one to bring up this subject and debate it with many of you around the time of year The Stones should be recording if they are to tour behind an album the following year...

*I suppose I gotta say why should this time be any different but do forgive me if It seems repetitive (I suppose at least I realize it...).

So here goes ....I wonder "if" they have officially started yet? In my opinion how could they as of lately? I mean, they have been busy doing all kinds of other things that are not even Stones related and have not been together as a band lately that I could assume. Unless they did alot previously why haven't they been working on it? Here it is approaching late October and they always would of started by now if they are to have an album out by next fall?

There were reports the album is already finished. If this is so when did they record it? Are they using things that were left off the last few albums such as in the vain of Tattoo You or whats going on? I didn't expect they would do a Tattoo You type affair these days if indeed that is the case? It is getting to be late October and lately they have not been spotted together but instead have been doing only separate things that I know of.

If they were not spotted publicly so much lately I'd feel safe in assuming they were at work. However, that is anything but the case. Ronnie's in one country and Mick, Keith and Charlie are all in others anymore..

I wonder what's the deal? Anybody?

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Reply #1 - Oct 19^th, 2009 at 6:08am

Ian Billen wrote on Oct 18^th, 2009 at 11:13pm:

*Well ....I certainly realize entirely that I am the one to bring up this subject and debate it with many of you around the time of year The Stones should be recording if they are to tour behind an album the following year...

*I suppose I gotta say why should this time be any different but do forgive me if It seems repetitive (I suppose at least I realize it...).

So here goes ....I wonder "if" they have officially started yet? In my opinion how could they as of lately? I mean, they have been busy doing all kinds of other things that are not even Stones related and have not been together as a band lately that I could assume. Unless they did alot previously why haven't they been working on it? Here it is approaching late October and they always would of started by now if they are to have an album out by next fall?

There were reports the album is already finished. If this is so when did they record it? Are they using things that were left off the last few albums such as in the vain of Tattoo You or whats going on? I didn't expect they would do a Tattoo You type affair these days if indeed that is the case? It is getting to be late October and lately they have not been spotted together but instead have been doing only separate things that I know of.

If they were not spotted publicly so much lately I'd feel safe in assuming they were at work. However, that is anything but the case. Ronnie's in one country and Mick, Keith and Charlie are all in others anymore..

I wonder what's the deal? Anybody?

Ian

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Reply #2 - Oct 19^th, 2009 at 7:13am

Keith said his plans are to get the band together early in 2010 to make a new album. Dont see why anyone could assume they may have 'started' yet.

Charlie's been playing pub gigs in England with his boogie woogie mates, Ronnie has the Faces reunion show this weekend so I'd imagine he's been rehearsing for that and Keith is in the US.

Nothing to excited about. They didnt record Steel Wheels or BTB until the early part or spring of the year in which those records came out and still managed to have them out in time for a tour in September. And in this day and age, they dont even need to be on the same continent as each other to make a record.

Moot point anyway whether they make a new record or not. They wont promote it.

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Reply #4 - Oct 19^th, 2009 at 7:25am

They might as well not bother then and tarnish their legacy even further!

It's perplexing to see them rush to hack something together at the last minute, like bad students, instead of recording regularly between albums and only keeping the best material and honed instrument parts, instead of some dodgy stuff with weak playing, MJ on bass anyone ?

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gimmekeef Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 5,759 Ontario Canada Gender:	Re: So What's The Deal With This Album? ....from I Reply #6 - Oct 19^th, 2009 at 8:36am I'm sure Mick has some putrid ditties tucked away and Keith has a Merle Haggard B side lined up but I have long given up hope of any real passion being put into a new album. That being said I'll be all over it the minute its confirmed if this happens.
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Reply #7 - Oct 19^th, 2009 at 9:24am

gimmekeef wrote on Oct 19^th, 2009 at 8:36am:

I'm sure Mick has some putrid ditties tucked away and Keith has a Merle Haggard B side lined up but I have long given up hope of any real passion being put into a new album. That being said I'll be all over it the minute its confirmed if this happens.

I see no way to improve on the above. Nicely done!

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Re: So What's The Deal With This Album? ....from I
Reply #15 - Oct 19^th, 2009 at 9:21pm

Lantern_High wrote on Oct 19^th, 2009 at 6:08am:

Ian Billen wrote on Oct 18^th, 2009 at 11:13pm:

*Well ....I certainly realize entirely that I am the one to bring up this subject and debate it with many of you around the time of year The Stones should be recording if they are to tour behind an album the following year...

*I suppose I gotta say why should this time be any different but do forgive me if It seems repetitive (I suppose at least I realize it...).

So here goes ....I wonder "if" they have officially started yet? In my opinion how could they as of lately? I mean, they have been busy doing all kinds of other things that are not even Stones related and have not been together as a band lately that I could assume. Unless they did alot previously why haven't they been working on it? Here it is approaching late October and they always would of started by now if they are to have an album out by next fall?

There were reports the album is already finished. If this is so when did they record it? Are they using things that were left off the last few albums such as in the vain of Tattoo You or whats going on? I didn't expect they would do a Tattoo You type affair these days if indeed that is the case? It is getting to be late October and lately they have not been spotted together but instead have been doing only separate things that I know of.

If they were not spotted publicly so much lately I'd feel safe in assuming they were at work. However, that is anything but the case. Ronnie's in one country and Mick, Keith and Charlie are all in others anymore..

I wonder what's the deal? Anybody?

Ian

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No. I am not speaking in sound/production what-so-ever. I am speaking of them digging through past albums and mostly older sessions to make up most of the album because they were in such a rush.

I am simply concerned all this gallivanting around the globe for them is eating up their writing and pre-production time so I am hoping another Tattoo You affair would not be needed in where they used almost all old material. I want it mostly fresh. Not left-overs that are worked up. Mind You, no dis-credit to Tattoo You. Tattoo You is a great album ...but that scenario to that extent was a one time deal.

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Reply #16 - Oct 19^th, 2009 at 9:29pm

left shoe shuffle wrote on Oct 19^th, 2009 at 12:16pm:

*Where were these reports that the album is already finished?

"BV" from IORR has some nice inside contacts. I "beleive" (but am not certain) he stated a few months ago that the album had already been finished.

He has been spot-on in the past. For instance he knew how A Bigger Bang sounded because he heard it first. As well he was the first to know of the albums recording location in which we all found out while they were doing it. As well he knew the title of the album two weeks before the record company leaked it. He is darn credible over there.

I "think" it was he or one other credible source over there at IORR (not simply someone popping off) that claims that the album is finished already and had been for a while (don't ask me how, when or where).

I took note of the comment because the source was such.

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Reply #17 - Oct 19^th, 2009 at 9:35pm

Gazza wrote on Oct 19^th, 2009 at 7:13am:

Keith said his plans are to get the band together early in 2010 to make a new album. Dont see why anyone could assume they may have 'started' yet.

Charlie's been playing pub gigs in England with his boogie woogie mates, Ronnie has the Faces reunion show this weekend so I'd imagine he's been rehearsing for that and Keith is in the US.

Nothing to excited about. They didnt record Steel Wheels or BTB until the early part or spring of the year in which those records came out and still managed to have them out in time for a tour in September. And in this day and age, they dont even need to be on the same continent as each other to make a record.

Moot point anyway whether they make a new record or not. They wont promote it.

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What I am concerned of is the "writing" and "pre-production time". Not so much the actual recording time. By this time Mick and Keith would of been together sharing song ideas with Don Was and getting on with actually writing the material and creating the songs. This is what I mean. As far as I can see they have not been together hardly at all. Your very right about Steel Wheels and BTB but indeed they were on the rush. As well, they still would be writing the songs together by now ...or at least be working on it at the same location. It does not appear to be the case and it is approaching late October... the clock is ticking. Unless, as was reported ...some how they have stuff finished already?

As well, not for anything but Don Was is working with The Stone Temple Pilots right now. When he works with The Stones he does it exclusively (naturally). So I am not seeing him in the equation right now (who knows ....will he be in the equation at all this time round?).

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Reply #19 - Oct 19^th, 2009 at 11:26pm

Nellcote wrote on Oct 19^th, 2009 at 9:45pm:

Ian, they made the rules & will continue to do so.
In the meantime, sit back, roll a fatty & enjoy the music.

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Hah. I appreciate the obsevant response. However I am not sure I know precisely what you mean? Are you saying that if they want to, they can write, and record the album "likidy-split", all in one run, within a very short period of time if they decide to do that this time out simply because The Stones do things as they see fit and who cares about what is standard? Or are you saying they may pick and choose from older sessions and record more on top of it in recording this one. Because they are The Stones and they are constantly trying new things in certain scenarios?

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No. I am not speaking in sound/production what-so-ever. I am speaking of them digging through past albums and mostly older sessions to make up most of the album because they were in such a rush.

I am simply concerned all this gallivanting around the globe for them is eating up their writing and pre-production time so I am hoping another Tattoo You affair would not be needed in where they used almost all old material. I want it mostly fresh. Not left-overs that are worked up. Mind You, no dis-credit to Tattoo You. Tattoo You is a great album ...but that scenario to that extent was a one time deal.

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Ian, what my expectation from the Stones, Is a fresh album, not another as they had already did.
I like Tattoo You.
But we're in the new so called milleniun, and maybe we as a Stones' fans deserve to get a decent album from them.
But ..Gazza had said.. 'They wont promote it', when and who knows, the album will comes out.
He said they had did the same for ABB. All in the same year of the tour.
And there's any necessity that they are in the same continent.
Cause they are all doing other things now.

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Reply #23 - Oct 20^th, 2009 at 6:36am

Bitch wrote on Oct 20^th, 2009 at 6:20am:

I've heard chatter that the new album will be produced by Jack White, KEEF likes his talent and MICK thinks he is current and trendy enough. This could put the Stones in a new light, not Shine A Light because I think Jack's performance sucked, but add a modern twist on our old dudes same old style.

Keith dropped a hint in a recent Rolling Stone interview that he'd like to work with him, because they'd done something together a while back. Thats all. Mick hasnt been interviewed lately, so anything in that regard is speculative.

His performance when singing a Rolling Stones song at the Beacon which wasnt suited for him wouldnt have any bearing in his ability to produce a record. I'd love to see Jack White produce a Stones album, because he has something of a midas touch at the minute and would be well suited for them. The songs have to be good though - if they're not, its unfair to expect a producer to be able to polish a turd.

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