Lets face it folks ... the Stones are History ...  

there will never be a time to release the Valuts ...  

it is well beyond that point today!!  

Yes and after burning through Bill German's book I have even less respect for what they've been up to since 1989...what I thought started in 1999 with their first tour with zero album and made worse by the 2002 tour in fact started 10 years before. It's just that they stopped bothering in 1999 and got away with it...The result is that today no one outside die hards gives a toss for their music anymore, they behaved like an oldies band, that's what they are now.

What biography of Keith is that, Lantern?

Whilst he's maybe somewhat burnt out creatively (which happens to most creative artists after some time), he still comes across pretty well as a human being in any biography I've read of him.

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Out of all of this, the only one I'm interested in is the DVD, I can't understand why they also have a C.D. disc of the same thing, Klein is dead, but who ever is taking over is keeping his money grabbing method, I'm not really interested in the B.B. King/Ike & Tina Turner disc, & I already have Ya Yas, so the only disc for me that stands out is the DVD, which will probably be only so many minutes (as long as the 5 songs are) & if it's the same "Satisfaction" as on Gimme Shelter DVD, it's a complete rip-off, what's the old saying-they dangle a carrot in front of you for just these few songs, I got real second thoughts about buying this when it comes out.

I'll have to get ya's ya's because i want the re-mastered album. The suppport acts dont interest me. The dvd - meh, ok. But a whole cd for 5 tracks????

I just have a question about the BB KIng and Turner tracks...are the Stones covering those tracks or is it BB King and Tuner performing it themselves?

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GAZZA you should seriously apply for the job of managing the Stones music catalog!! I am 100% certain you would do it more justice than the Stones themselves! You probably know more or as much about it as the Stones do! Put a resume together and a nice cover letter and mail it to KEEF ~ his address is___________ but you probably already know it, right?

Its our fault really. Buying tickets at insane prices and fan club memberships have enabled the band. Why be creative when we can sell half a billion bucks worth of tickets with oldies and a few lame newbies. Anyone really put ONNYA in their top 100?. Ever think that maybe the vaults have been picked clean by the bootleggers and there aint anything commercially viable left?

Paying 50 to 60 dollars for an album I already own with added discs doesn't really pique my interest now.  If I had more disposable income, I would have bought this on pre-order immediately. Now I have to look for the five tracks on the second disc through iTunes or another download site if the songs are available.

Trey Krimsin wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2009 at 8:55pm:

Ebay

SweetVirginia wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2009 at 9:04pm:



I've been busy, SV. I've got a lot to deal with here. However, I will do my best to frequent this board more.

Too bad I can't reply to those bastards of ABKCO, the user name is abkcomg

Expanded Rolling Stones album revisits '60s heyday

ABKCO Music & Records is putting out a pair of multi-disc CD and DVD configurations of "Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out," a 1970 album frequently heralded as one of the band's best releases.
Friday, October 2, 2009
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The label that controls the rights to the 1960s recordings by the Rolling Stones has cracked open its extensive vaults to reissue a live album that captured the band during its youthful glory.

ABKCO Music & Records is putting out a pair of multi-disc CD and DVD configurations of "Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out," a 1970 album frequently heralded as one of the band's best releases as well as one of the most vibrant live recordings by any group.

The album consists of songs mainly recorded during a two-night stand at New York's Madison Square Garden in November 1969, when icons such as Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin and Chuck Berry lined up to pay homage to the band backstage.

The band's winter trek, its first U.S. tour in three years, was viewed as a comeback of sorts following a series of drug busts and the death of ousted co-founder Brian Jones four months earlier. The group, with new virtuoso guitarist Mick Taylor on board, unveiled such future classics as the nine-minute "Midnight Rambler" to mesmerizing effect.

"If you were there, you can relive it. And if it's your first time listening to it, you get a sense of what was going on in music at that time -- how it was exploding, how it was so exciting," ABKCO CEO Jody Klein told Reuters.

The "deluxe" package, coming out on November 3, includes a remastered version of the album, sourced from the original vinyl; a disc featuring opening acts B.B. King and Ike & Tina Turner; a five-track disc boasting previously unreleased live Stones tracks; a DVD with 27 minutes of footage; and a 56-page booklet.

A "super deluxe version," due out two weeks later, also includes vinyl versions of the three audio discs.

INNOCENCE LOST

"You look at the DVD and you see how the fans are right up on stage," Klein said. "Mick Jagger is sitting right in front of them. What concert have you been to in the last 20 years that has that anymore?"

Make that 40 years. Those innocent days ended forever a week after the New York shows, when the Stones played a free concert at the Altamont speedway near San Francisco. A Hell's Angels member stabbed a gun-toting fan to death in front of the stage, as seen in the concert documentary "Gimme Shelter."

The "Ya-Ya's" project marks ABKCO's first major release since Klein's father, company founder Allen Klein, died in July. The company is family-controlled, but frequently receives buyout overtures from "venture capitalists or multi-billionaires or record labels or publishing companies," Klein said. He declined to go into specifics.

The ABKCO roster also includes recordings by the likes of Sam Cooke, the Animals and the Kinks. The lucrative publishing division boasts more than 2,000 copyrights for compositions written by the likes of Pete Townshend of the Who and Ray Davies of the Kinks.

Allen Klein, an accountant who cut his teeth extracting unpaid royalties for the likes of Bobby Darin and Sam Cooke, briefly managed the Rolling Stones in the late 1960s, and was also a key player in the bitter break-up of the Beatles.

The Stones fired him, but paid a heavy price. Klein ended up with all their master recordings through the "Ya-Ya's" album, and the copyrights for a few years beyond that.

Relations between the two camps were strained for years, and ABKCO further annoyed the Stones by releasing compilations. But the differences were patched over in 1989, and they have worked together on projects since.

The detente is not exactly great news for Stones fans, as Klein shares Jagger's reluctance to put out archival material such as unreleased demos, outtakes and live recordings.

"There's a time and a place for those things, and the time has not come yet," Klein said. "The Rolling Stones are still making records."

The paucity of rarities in the new "Ya-Ya's" package raised some fans' eyebrows. The five previously unreleased audio tracks are the blues tunes "Prodigal Son" and "You Gotta Move," "Under My Thumb," "I'm Free" and "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction." Different versions of the same tracks appear on the DVD, which also includes amusing behind-the-scenes footage. So why not fill the audio disc with more curios?

"What you have on the EP is the best versions of those performances," Klein said. "I'm not flying in stuff from the BBC (vaults) and adding it just because there is extra space on the CD. It just doesn't make sense."