gotdablouse wrote on Feb 18
th, 2010 at 11:45am:
Gazza wrote on Feb 18
th, 2010 at 9:26am:
gotdablouse wrote on Feb 18
th, 2010 at 9:01am:
Scarlet...that rings a few bells, from the top of my head it was supposedly recorded with Jimmy Page, I had Montreux 1975 in mind, not 74 or 76, but it certainly has never been bootlegged.
Strange that "Potted Shrimp" should have been determined to be from the GHS sessions, I suppose the fact that these three instrumentals (Aladin Story, Potted Shrimp, Dancing in the Light) all came out on one boot (Trident Demos ?) and said to have been recorded at Elektra in 1972 doesn't mean they were recorded at the same time.
Elektra, Hollywood late 1972 was what they were originally announced as when first bootlegged, but that wasnt the case. Not even sure they ever DID that session.
They're all on the 'Trident Mixes' tape which got leaked around that time. However, Aladdin Story and Potted Shrimp BOTH come from the same session in October 1970. Maybe Potted Shrimp got redone/finished for GHS and thats why it wasnt shortlisted? Very odd. Dancing in The Light comes from around 1970 as well.
You're right, I'd leant Elektra some credit since that's where they recorded/mixed Exile, but that was in November 1971 not November 1972.
I'd need to listen to them again but going by memory, I wonder if Potted Shrimp/Save Me don't have some similarities, hence the qualification as a GHS track.
But they why would they include Scarlet a song that Keith himself said was recorded with Jimmy Page at a later date. Incidentally I just found out that Scarlet is the name of Jimmy Page's daugter! There must some hard evidence for Nico to date the session precisely at 15/10/1974.
'Exile' was finished at Sunset Sound in Hollywood. When I started collecting studio sessions (in the early 80s), there was this 5-song tape of instrumentals which were supposedly from Elektra in Hollywood from around October-November 1972, ie just a few weeks before they went to Jamaica to record GHS. The tracks were Aladdin Story, Dancing In The Light, Potted Shrimp, Leather Jacket and an Untitled instrumental. They were also (I think) on the Trident Mixes/Trident Demos bootlegs, which was a bit confusing, as that included stuff from 1968-69 as well. They were also sometimes known as 'Bell Sound Demos'.
However, those songs were later attributed to other, earlier sessions, and the Stones dont appear to have recorded at Elektra other than doing some 'Let It Bleed' overdubs and mixes just before the '69 US Tour.
Felix Aeppli's Ultimate Guide explains the whole Trident/Bellsound/Elektra thing thus :
LATE 1972 TRIDENT MIXES, COMPILED BY THE ROLLING STONES (ABKCO / BELL
SOUND ACETATE , ALTERNATIVE TO MORE HOT ROCKS), Arrangement Jimmy Miller
A1 Jiving Sister Fanny
A2 I’m Going Down (Jagger, Richards, Taylor)
A3 I Don’t Know Why (Wonder, Riser, Hunter, Hardaway)
A4 Give Me A Hamburger To Go
A5 Downtown Suzie (Wyman)
A6 Blood Red Wine
B1 Travelling Man (Jagger, Richards, Taylor)
B2 Family
B3 Still A Fool (Morganfield)
C1 Family (Retake)
C2 Leather Jacket (Taylor)
C3 Dancing In The Light
C4 Potted Shrimps
D1 Aladdin Story
D2 And I Was A Country Boy
D3 Who Am I?
D4 Untitled
Cuts A1, A3: Recorded at Olympic Sound Studios, London, June 10-July 2, 1969.
Cuts A2, C2, D3: Recorded at Olympic Sound Studios, London, June 16--July 27, 1970.
Cuts A4, A6, B2, B3: Recorded at Olympic Sound Studios, London, May 13-21, 1968.
Cuts A5, D2: Recorded at Olympic Sound Studios, London, April 23, 1969.
Cuts B1, C4, D1: Recorded with RSM, Stargroves, Newbury and/or at Olympic Sound Studios, London,
October 21 onwards and November, 1970.
Cut C1: Recorded at Olympic Sound Studios, London, June 24 or 28, 1968.
Cuts C3, D4: Recorded with RSM, Stargroves, Newbury, and/or at Olympic Sound Studios, London,
March-May, 1970.
NOTES: Circulated on a number of Bell Sound acetates; - A possible album that didn’t make
it into the shops, most likely due to the fact that too many titles assembled here were
semi-finished songs or rough tracks (apparently to be finished at Trident Studios,
London). The Rolling Stones’ TRIDENT MIXES thus would be not much more than a
fore-runner of the METAMORPHOSIS album, much in the style of Andrew L. Oldham’s
NECROPHILIA (see Entry 0.224A above) or Bill Wyman’s THE BLACK BOX (see
Entry 0.263). Fortunately, this fascinating compilation did see the light of day a couple of
years later, albeit in unofficial form. One of the few pressings of the rare 1972 Bell
Sound acetate got lost in the mail and amazingly turned up at a postal auction of lost
and unclaimed packages. And the lucky person who bought this unmarked lot had
bootleg connections. The rest, as they say, is history: THE TRIDENT MIXES bootleg
double album (K & S 072), following the exact track listing of the original acetate,
became an instant classic among collectors; -
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