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Ten Thousand Motels Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 1,797 Gender:	Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated Jan 11^th, 2009 at 5:22pm Lurkers can vote but one vote
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Ten Thousand Motels Rocks Off Regular Offline Posts: 1,797 Gender:	Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated Reply #1 - Jan 11^th, 2009 at 5:24pm I'm going to go with underrated, if only because I think he has a keen sense of what tunes to cover. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoERITopmpE&feature=related
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Edith Grove Rocks Off Regular Offline Disco STILL sucks! Posts: 12,336 New Orleans Gender:	Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated Reply #2 - Jan 11^th, 2009 at 5:29pm Underrated - I think he had more to do with the Stones' creativity than most people know, and the Glimmers give him credit for.
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Sioux Rocks Off Regular Offline Brian Jones---Foundation Stone--Golden Stone Posts: 4,176 Virginia, U.S.A. Gender:	Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated Reply #3 - Jan 11^th, 2009 at 6:32pm I vote "underrated" too. He had melodic, inventive bass lines quite often.
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Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Reply #4 - Jan 11^th, 2009 at 8:24pm

I think Charlie's opinion matters most on this question, and while I can't quote him precisely, I recall that he said something to the effect that you don't really notice Bill's playing until he stops and the bottom drops out of the music. Plus, Bill came up with the riff for "Jumpin' Jack Flash," which alone justifies the underrrated rating.

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Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Reply #5 - Jan 13^th, 2009 at 8:50pm

Edith Grove wrote on Jan 11^th, 2009 at 5:29pm:

Underrated - I think he had more to do with the Stones' creativity than most people know, and the Glimmers give him credit for.

I AGREE THE SOUND HAS NEVER BEEN THE SAME. HE KNEW WHAT TO PLAY AND WHAT NOT TO PLAY, HIM AND THE DRUMMER MR CHARLIE WATTS MADE ONE OF THE BEST RYTHMN SECTIONS OF ALL TIME.

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Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Reply #6 - Jan 14^th, 2009 at 7:04am

Funny topic as I was just talking about this very subject yesterday.

While Bill Wyman isn't the most talented bass player on the planet he was indeed the best bass player for the Rolling Stones. With Daryl we lose a bit of the unpredictability factor we had with Bill. Daryl is a monster. No doubt, but you know he's good for a perfect night every night. With Bill he was more on par with Keith and company in being quirky and again, the right fit for the band.

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Bitch Rocks Off Regular Offline I always get my Rocks Off! Posts: 4,904 FL - USA Gender:	Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated Reply #7 - Jan 14^th, 2009 at 7:56am Underrated. There is something 'missing' since he left although I love Darryl, Bill had the intertwining STONES vibe down with Charlie and Keef.
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real wild child Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 213 Mexico City Gender:	Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated Reply #8 - Jan 14^th, 2009 at 2:20pm The only thing I know it´s I miss him... He was at his best in the 78-82 era,especially on tour... Comeback Bill!!!!!
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Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Reply #9 - Jan 14^th, 2009 at 7:13pm

Brainbell Jangler wrote on Jan 11^th, 2009 at 8:24pm:

I think Charlie's opinion matters most on this question, and while I can't quote him precisely, I recall that he said something to the effect that you don't really notice Bill's playing until he stops and the bottom drops out of the music. Plus, Bill came up with the riff for "Jumpin' Jack Flash," which alone justifies the underrrated rating.

that's the best explanation...
because i can't put my finger on it.
he seems to not be there, but then you're not really paying attention - because you're too wrapped up in the groove, the feel of the song....
and when you do think about it, you realize that he must be doing something right.
and it's not the same anymore - so that answers the question.

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sammy davis jr. Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 46	Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated Reply #10 - Jan 14^th, 2009 at 8:52pm WAY WAY Underrated. He's a fucking great bass player. Listen to When The Whip Comes Down for example- bouncing octaves, impeccable timing, awesome fills etc. I would love to hear how songs like Happy or Tumbling Dice would sound if Bill played on them. The rythymn hasn't been as good without him.
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Brainbell Jangler Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,331 Portland, OR Gender:	Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated Reply #11 - Jan 16^th, 2009 at 11:43pm A buddy of mine I've known since 1967 has been playing bass as long as I've known him. He has the greatest admiration for Bill's work.
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Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Reply #12 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 10:49am

Bill is way underrated, he fits The Stones (with Bass playing, along with being there from the beginning) just perfect, his 60's Bass playing inspired a lot of Bass players in rock, & I do miss him as a member of The Stones, it's too bad the flying got in the way, but he wanted to retire from The Stones anyway, he's a songwriter too, & I think he got sick from not getting credit with the Mick/Keith camp, same with Mick Taylor, he never got credit, that's the way it is with some bands, two ego manics take over.

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glencar Ex Member	Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated Reply #13 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 2:52pm 6 people actually voted "overrated"? WTF?
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Sioux Rocks Off Regular Offline Brian Jones---Foundation Stone--Golden Stone Posts: 4,176 Virginia, U.S.A. Gender:	Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated Reply #14 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 3:03pm "Ban them.....ban them nowwww.....woooooo".
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Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Reply #15 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 5:00pm

Both! When he left the Stones it was like chili without the beans. Still satisfying but something fundamental is missing. It has nothing to do with Dary,l I mean he must be great, didn't he play in Madonna's band one tour? Bill Wyman was self taught and a frustrated guitar player. He tried to emulate all the great early American Rock and Rollers but ended up playing with Keith Richards and Charlie Watts. A great mixture of frustration, influence and great musical peers. Alone who really gives a fuck? With Keith and Charlie, pick of the litter.

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Brainbell Jangler Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 1,331 Portland, OR Gender:	Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated Reply #16 - Jan 17^th, 2009 at 6:24pm Quote: 6 people actually voted "overrated"? WTF? Howe come Darryl was allowed to vote 6 times?
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Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Reply #17 - Jan 18^th, 2009 at 3:51am

72Tele wrote on Jan 17^th, 2009 at 5:00pm:

Daryl I mean he must be great, didn't he play in Madonna's band one tour?

Do I sense a hint of sarcasm here?

For me the clincher is the story from the OZ tour in 73 where he was so ill with fever he had no recollection of playing the show, but the tape reveals he was note perfect throughout. That's talent if you ask me.

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Glimmer Twin Rocks Off Regular Offline Rocks Off Rules You Bastards Posts: 274	Re: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated Reply #18 - Jan 21^st, 2009 at 8:27pm Way under rated. Billy come back to the Stones.
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Question: Bill Wyman - Underrated or Overrated
Underrated 29 (76.3%) Overrated 6 (15.8%) Don't know 3 (7.9%) Total votes: 38 « Created by: Ten Thousand Motels on: Jan 11^th, 2009 at 5:22pm »