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What's up with Jim Carroll and Keith in today's header?  Does a recording exist of whatever is going down onstage in the photo? 

Was unaware these two had a relationship of any kind.  Pretty interesting.  Always liked Carroll's first LP.
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Reply #1 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 8:33am Alert Board Moderator about this Post! 
Nasty Habits wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 8:16am:
What's up with Jim Carroll and Keith in today's header?  Does a recording exist of whatever is going down onstage in the photo?  

Was unaware these two had a relationship of any kind.  Pretty interesting.  Always liked Carroll's first LP.





I was given a copy of Catholic Boy by a friend who told me, Keith discovered this guy... I don't know if that is true, but I do know JC is cool as fuck, and his spoken word on Rancids Junkie Man is chilling, and was totally done on the fly, the guy is an incredible poet!
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Nasty Habits wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 8:16am:
What's up with Jim Carroll and Keith in today's header?  Does a recording exist of whatever is going down onstage in the photo?  

Was unaware these two had a relationship of any kind.  Pretty interesting.  Always liked Carroll's first LP.





I was given a copy of Catholic Boy by a friend who told me, Keith discovered this guy... I don't know if that is true, but I do know JC is cool as fuck, and his spoken word on Rancids Junkie Man is chilling, and was totally done on the fly, the guy is an incredible poet!


Yeah, a little googlation is leading me to something like this conclusion, too.   I always just assumed Carroll was your basic New York tail end CBGB new wave label scoop up.  Would love to get a more coherent story.  Keith lead guitar on People Who Died would take that song into the stratosphere.

And Out Come the Wolves.  What an album.
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Nasty Habits wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 8:59am:
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Nasty Habits wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 8:16am:
What's up with Jim Carroll and Keith in today's header?  Does a recording exist of whatever is going down onstage in the photo?  

Was unaware these two had a relationship of any kind.  Pretty interesting.  Always liked Carroll's first LP.





I was given a copy of Catholic Boy by a friend who told me, Keith discovered this guy... I don't know if that is true, but I do know JC is cool as fuck, and his spoken word on Rancids Junkie Man is chilling, and was totally done on the fly, the guy is an incredible poet!


Yeah, a little googlation is leading me to something like this conclusion, too.   I always just assumed Carroll was your basic New York tail end CBGB new wave label scoop up.  Would love to get a more coherent story.  Keith lead guitar on People Who Died would take that song into the stratosphere.

And Out Come the Wolves.  What an album.



It is right behind Exile and London Calling on my fave list...
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Nasty Habits wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 8:16am:
What's up with Jim Carroll and Keith in today's header?  Does a recording exist of whatever is going down onstage in the photo?  

Was unaware these two had a relationship of any kind.  Pretty interesting.  Always liked Carroll's first LP.





I was given a copy of Catholic Boy by a friend who told me, Keith discovered this guy... I don't know if that is true, but I do know JC is cool as fuck, and his spoken word on Rancids Junkie Man is chilling, and was totally done on the fly, the guy is an incredible poet!


Yeah, a little googlation is leading me to something like this conclusion, too.   I always just assumed Carroll was your basic New York tail end CBGB new wave label scoop up.  Would love to get a more coherent story.  Keith lead guitar on People Who Died would take that song into the stratosphere.

And Out Come the Wolves.  What an album.



It is right behind Exile and London Calling on my fave list...


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Making it by math the greatest single LP in the Skunxiverse!
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I was lucky enough to see the Jim Carrol band sometime in the summer or fall of 1980. It was at Buffalo State college. After the show my buddy crashed his car about 100 yards from the venue. We were lucky enough to have a friend that went to college across town so we decided to hike over and spend the night and deal with the car in the morning. On our way we walked down the Elmwood strip and who do we see getting out of a van but the band. No Jim Carroll though, so we get talking and tell them our story and they were nice enough to give us a ride across town. first thing I asked when we got in the car was, what was it like to play with Keith?. The picture was in random notes in rolling stone so I knew even though it was pre-internet.  They had nothing but good things to say about Keith and you could tell they were thrilled to grace the same stage. 

Jim Carroll for those that dont know was a author first and foremost. He wrote the great book "Basketball Diaries" and I believe he won a Pulitzer prize for it. He may have been the youngest winner ever, he was only 14 when he wrote it.He went on to write books of poetry.

Catholic Boy is a great record that I still listen to today. Why he never really did any thing else in rock and roll wise is beyond me.

There is a great story in the Brockis written Keith bio about the day of this show. The two of them doing blow and taking methadone etc etc.

Was so happy to see that header. Thanks
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Nasty Habits wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 8:16am:
What's up with Jim Carroll and Keith in today's header?  Does a recording exist of whatever is going down onstage in the photo?  





As far as I recall, yes it does. Keith joined him onstage for one song - "people Who Died", I think.
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Good god, Keith looks wasted for even Keith!
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The KR/JC connection is mentioned in Victor Bockris' Keith bio.

Keef was being, er, um, Keef...

http://tinyurl.com/65ydxu
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Reply #10 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 7:29pm Alert Board Moderator about this Post! 
that is funny lss - my search showed up the previous page.

link

but i think you can scroll up and down and read the surrounding info...


btw - wasnt that hs known for spitting out screwed up good players at that time..? i think chris mullin went there, and that that was where he has said his bozzing issues began...

i would love to hear a recording of that gig, though...

and fwiw - i thought the bockris book was the best of the bunch about keef...
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GREAT header pic. I remember this night. I was supposed to be there but from what I recall couldn't drag my ass uptown. I've seen Jim a bunch of times though. Great poet, and one of the few people who can actually read their own stuff in public and make it magic. A shame he's predominantly known for "People Who Died," because the rest of "Catholic Boy" is a first-class album. "I Want The Angel" and "City Drops Into The Night" are just tremendous and evoke very specific memories for me. There's not a clam on the record, and his other offerings - musical and written - are well worth exploring.
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sammy davis jr. wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 6:50pm:
Good god, Keith looks wasted for even Keith!


apparently Jim had a large phial of methadone which Keith  was happy to share with him

anybody seen the Basketball Diaries movie?? - while i'm no great fan of DiCaprio he was (imho) quite a good choice fo the role of Jim - more than a passing resemblance looks wise tho a little shorter - I thought the movie was good

i haven't read the book tho - has any one?
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stonedinaustralia wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 8:10pm:
sammy davis jr. wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 6:50pm:
Good god, Keith looks wasted for even Keith!


apparently Jim had a large phial of methadone which Keith  was happy to share with him

anybody seen the Basketball Diaries movie?? - while i'm no great fan of DiCaprio he was (imho) quite a good choice fo the role of Jim - more than a passing resemblance looks wise tho a little shorter - I thought the movie was good

i haven't read the book tho - has any one?



Definitely worth reading, SIA, though I prefer "Forced Entries," a book of short stories.
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GTRM is just me or have both your posts in this thread come up blank (quotes aside)
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stonedinaustralia wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 8:45pm:
GTRM is just me or have both your posts in this thread come up blank (quotes aside)


Depends on which template you're using to view the forum.
Check your settings.

"Default" works for me...
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GotToRollMe wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 8:12pm:
stonedinaustralia wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 8:10pm:
sammy davis jr. wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 6:50pm:
Good god, Keith looks wasted for even Keith!


apparently Jim had a large phial of methadone which Keith  was happy to share with him

anybody seen the Basketball Diaries movie?? - while i'm no great fan of DiCaprio he was (imho) quite a good choice fo the role of Jim - more than a passing resemblance looks wise tho a little shorter - I thought the movie was good

i haven't read the book tho - has any one?



Definitely worth reading, SIA, though I prefer "Forced Entries," a book of short stories.





thanks

i can read 'em when i hit th e quote button - you are colouring your text GTRM and I , for one, can't read em
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Reply #17 - Dec 3rd, 2008 at 8:54pm Alert Board Moderator about this Post! 
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stonedinaustralia wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 8:45pm:
GTRM is just me or have both your posts in this thread come up blank (quotes aside)


Depends on which template you're using to view the forum.
Check your settings.

"Default" works for me...


Thanks, Lefty, that's news to me too.
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stonedinaustralia wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 8:45pm:
GTRM is just me or have both your posts in this thread come up blank (quotes aside)


Depends on which template you're using to view the forum.
Check your settings.

"Default" works for me...


thenks Lefty

and Nasty I must say I am surprised you were unaware of Keith JC's connection - you know just about everything else worth knowing  Wink You rock!
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stonedinaustralia wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 8:52pm:
GotToRollMe wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 8:12pm:
stonedinaustralia wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 8:10pm:
sammy davis jr. wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 6:50pm:
Good god, Keith looks wasted for even Keith!


apparently Jim had a large phial of methadone which Keith  was happy to share with him

anybody seen the Basketball Diaries movie?? - while i'm no great fan of DiCaprio he was (imho) quite a good choice fo the role of Jim - more than a passing resemblance looks wise tho a little shorter - I thought the movie was good

i haven't read the book tho - has any one?



Definitely worth reading, SIA, though I prefer "Forced Entries," a book of short stories.





thanks

i can read 'em when i hit th e quote button - you are colouring your text GTRM and I , for one, can't read em


That's because I color it black, SIA. I use the default template - the other templates are too hard on my eyes.
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ok GTRM - got that last one - funny i've only noticed this with your posts in the last day or two

couldn't have not being able to read YOUR posts  Wink
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Thanks for the link, Left Shoe - I feel like I'm back to speed.  Never bothered to read the Bockris bio, but if it's as tasty as those passages I may have to.
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Such a great post!
Two pure myths for me! together! playing People Who Died! fantastic!
I just had read that Keith was completely DRUNK on stage and he played very bad... You rock!
And there was MICK at the club, and he was particularly helpful with JIM...
Jim Carrol was really a underground poet,  I was goig mad listened CATHOLIC BOY and DRY DREAMS, two masterpiece for me.
i did at the time a comic story too, drawing the song THREE SISTERS, one of my first comic work for  a rock-magazine...
great time: listening JIM Carroll, the Blasters, Thorogood, the Dr. Feelgood, The Inmates, smokin' joints and hunting girls... ahh, good times!

I have Basketball Diary in .avi, but it's in german!!
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GotToRollMe wrote on Dec 3rd, 2008 at 7:35pm:
GREAT header pic. I remember this night. I was supposed to be there but from what I recall couldn't drag my ass uptown. I've seen Jim a bunch of times though. Great poet, and one of the few people who can actually read their own stuff in public and make it magic. A shame he's predominantly known for "People Who Died," because the rest of "Catholic Boy" is a first-class album. "I Want The Angel" and "City Drops Into The Night" are just tremendous and evoke very specific memories for me. There's not a clam on the record, and his other offerings - musical and written - are well worth exploring.


This show would have been just a few hours after the Stones had their party/press launch for "Emotional Rescue" at Danceteria.
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