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Question: What item is most likely found in the top drawer of Riffy's dresser?

naked pictures of Reagan    
  5 (20.0%)
Barry O voodoo doll    
  3 (12.0%)
Hoffa's body    
  2 (8.0%)
DVDs of "saved by the bell", season 3    
  1 (4.0%)
JC's boss's phone number    
  2 (8.0%)
bucket of chicken    
  5 (20.0%)
three sticks of "secret" deoderant, labels facing out    
  3 (12.0%)
"Eagles Greatest Hits" CD    
  4 (16.0%)




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Reply #9450 - Mar 22nd, 2010 at 6:00pm
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Reply #9451 - Mar 22nd, 2010 at 6:02pm
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Here is a topic I can discuss.  Amazing weight loss, Jizzy!!  But you do not have to starve!!

Lipitor and the "statins" have their place in cholesterol control and many people cannot live without them.  The best way to control blood pressure and cholesterol without medication (or with less medication) is to cease and desist eating all animal products and "processed food." Unfortunately heredity is a cause that we can't control.  You meat lovers will poo poo me, but a diet of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and legumes (better know as beans) is the easiest way to lose weight, feel 10 years younger and full of energy,  and get your body healthier.  Add exercise to it and the benefits increase even more.

I went on this diet as a "dare" by my brother, who is a cardiologist and believes in the lifestyle, especially for those with health issues..  I told him I could do anything for 21 days.  I've never eaten so much on a "diet" in my life.  Every once in a while I miss the cheese in my salad or the chicken in my pasta.  Now it sorta makes me sick to smell it.
Within the week, I had dropped 6 pounds (probably a cleansing process, if ya know what I mean) and I was amazed as I never lose weight even if I starve myself.  How can you lose weight eating potatoes and whole grain pasta (foods I always avoided)?  My energy level increased so much that I was actually staying awake long enough to finish a chapter in a book rather than a paragraph. I actually felt good after eating, no tiredness or heartburn, etc.  My blood pressure is now lower limits of normal and my cholesterol is low normal.  Now I must convince MY physician to let me go off the medicines to see if this has indeed done the trick.

Oh and I lost 12 pounds eating like a pig.  I venture to guess if you showed some restraint, you could lose more...

anyway..enough soap box
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Reply #9452 - Mar 22nd, 2010 at 6:16pm
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Yeah well....
Nice in theory but I never met a cow I didn't like!

But moderation is always the key.
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Reply #9453 - Mar 22nd, 2010 at 6:20pm
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does the new health care plan cover medicinal weed?
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Reply #9454 - Mar 22nd, 2010 at 6:42pm
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nankerphelge wrote on Mar 22nd, 2010 at 6:16pm:
Yeah well....
Nice in theory but I never met a cow I didn't like!

But moderation is always the key.


yes but knowledge and desire are your friends also.

I would never tell someone to not fill the prescription the physician gave them.  I would challenge them to do all in their power to live a healthy life style and read up on what that means for them.  I do not want to be a 80 year old with 50 pills in one of those little plastic containers with the days on it.  I can't even remember to take the 2 I'm on now.

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Reply #9455 - Mar 22nd, 2010 at 6:53pm
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Well, I KNOW that I DESIRE beef occasionally!

So while I agree with you that your system works for you, I know I would not be able to go meatless.

But I have cut way back on portions and have switched to fish and chicken for many of my meals.
I do eat a lot of beans and rice.
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Reply #9456 - Mar 22nd, 2010 at 8:10pm
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It's time we turned the Political thread into a BIPARTISAN support group for healthy eating and living.
I have battled my weight since I was a kid. Up and down, up and down, up and down.
Throw in thyroid problems and female middle age and it's REALLY hard.

I commend all of you for what you are doing and understand the struggle!!!
You inspire me and I NEED IT!!!!!

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“What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,” he says. “All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they’re happy. There’s an enormous market for people who can’t tell one note from another.” - Keef
 
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Reply #9458 - Mar 22nd, 2010 at 8:17pm
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It appears that the historic health care victory has inspired many of us to think about our own health. I, too, have been losing weight.  I don't own a scale, but most of my trousers have a few inches of slack. I first noticed the difference a few weeks ago as I was running to catch the streetcar and realized I wasn't out of breath.  On with the show; good health to you!
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Healthcare reform we can believe in. Take care of yourself and don't rely on the government to do it for you. You have all inspired me to get healthy......Starting next week, after I get back from my mini spring break. Are you fucking serious? Let's go get drunk Fuck you Gazza, Will ya?
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Reply #9460 - Mar 22nd, 2010 at 9:40pm
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It was like sweeps week in here.
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my throat hurts, it feels like soemthing was shoved in it... I asked my docotr if posting was right for me...
He prescribed rocks off... from the people who brought you internet porn and the simulshot... posting...
side effects include, lose of work productivity, food stains on clothes, maxed out credit cards and canceled shows...
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Pdog wrote on Mar 23rd, 2010 at 6:54am:
is Limbaugh in Costa Rica?

No, but maybe Mr. Riffhard is. (Hey, who knew that he was talking about Health Care Reform when he told us "it" was coming hard & fast? Wasn't too fast, but it WAS hard...)

It's been suggested that Rush will move to Costa Rico at the same time Sean Hannity keeps his promise to be waterboarded for charity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCwQ-k7vq9Y





A new Web site--ATicketForRush.com, built overnight and put online this morning--is collecting cash to buy Limbaugh a plane ticket to the Central American country.

"First, Rush Limbaugh said on his radio show that if the Healthcare Reform Bill passed, he would go to Costa Rica. Second, the Health care Reform Bill passed. As you can imagine, this has made a number of people very excited. We are among that number," site creators Mike Rugnetta and Patrick Davison write. "We want to make sure that Rush is able to make good on his promise, and so we've made this website."

On his show earlier this month, Limbaugh threatened to leave the country. "I’ll just tell you this, if this passes and it’s five years from now and all that stuff gets implemented — I am leaving the country. I’ll go to Costa Rica," he said.

The web site is soliciting donations $1 at a time, and has promised to use the money for a first class ticket from Limbaugh's home airport of West Palm Beach, Fla., to San Jose, the capital of Costa Rica.

If Limbaugh decides not to emigrate south, Davison and Rugnetta say they'll give the money to the Planned Parenthood Action Fund.

"We thought to ourselves, well, what charity would make Rush Limbaugh the maddest if he found out that money under his name was going toward it?" Davison, a freelance digital artist, told POLITICO. "Gay rights would probably be the one that would fly in his face the most, but we thought that didn't really go with health care."



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Reply #9464 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 5:14am
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This guy nails it. If you needed any further proof that Obama/Pelosi/Reid are a three headed monster steeped in Marxism here's an article that might help some of the drones pull their heads out of their asses. Though, I'm sure that the level of dronism on this thread may not ever be overcome. Many on this thread don't concern themselves with facts. Kaitz makes Rachel Mancow look just like the moron she is.

I can't wait until November!


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Pelosi and Marx on 'Freedom'

By Ed Kaitz

Nancy Pelosi wants to give birth to a new kind of freedom in America -- the freedom from being "job-locked."


In an interview with Rachel Maddow Thursday evening, Pelosi asked Americans to "think" about a bright, new, liberating kind of utopia:


Think of an economy where people could be an artist or a photographer, a writer without worrying about keeping their day job in order to have health insurance. Or that people could start a business and be entrepreneurial and take risks, but not be job-locked because a child has a child has asthma or diabetes or someone in the family is bipolar. You name it, any condition is job-locking.


Maddow was so overwhelmed and smitten with Pelosi's remarks that she posted the interview on her website under the following title: "Finally! Pelosi frames health reform for the win. (Hint: It's about freedom.)"


The problem with Pelosi's remarks, however, is that from hindsight, they are not bright, new, or liberating. On the contrary, almost identical words were penned over a hundred years ago by another champion of economic "freedom": Karl Marx. Marx criticized the private economy because it led to the "renunciation of life and of human needs." 


Like Pelosi, Marx was deeply troubled by an economic system that left most people job-locked and unable to satisfy their "human need" to become more authentic. In other words, the more you have to work, said Marx, "the less you eat, drink, buy books, go to the theater or to balls, or to the public house, and the less you think, love, theorize, sing, paint, fence, etc."


Marx chastised the middle class in England for being "so incurably debased by self-interest" and thirsty for a "quick profit" that they were incapable of recognizing the alienation from their true selves. Communist society, then, was the cure that could liberate us from our false selves and usher in a new kind of creativity and authenticity.  Says Marx:


[C]ommunist society ... regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticize after dinner, as the spirit moves me ..."


This kind of sheer lunacy could have been hatched only by an unemployed academic and journalist like Marx, who, by the way, was supported financially in his authentically job-liberated struggle against capitalism by his wealthy colleague Friedrich Engels. What's most disturbing is the number of wild-eyed crusaders, both then and now, who have fallen for Marx's creative definition of "freedom."


As for that nagging issue of just how "communist society" will "regulate the general production" after the socialist revolution, Engels had this to say:


The community will have to calculate what it can produce with the means at its disposal; and in accordance with the relationship of this productive power to the mass of consumers it will determine how far it has to raise or lower production.


In other words, leave it to the "community" (government) to worry about levels of production and consumption in order for the newly liberated and formerly "job-locked" citizens to pursue their lifelong dreams of being artists, writers, or photographers.


Friedrich Hayek wrote about this subtle shift in the word "freedom" over sixty years ago. He argued that as socialists began coming under fire for promoting servitude and control, they made the creative decision to harness to their "cart the strongest of all political motives -- the craving for freedom." For Hayek,


The subtle change in meaning to which the word ‘freedom' was subjected in order that this argument sound plausible is important.  To the great apostles of political freedom the word had meant freedom from coercion, freedom from the arbitrary power of other men, release from the ties which left the individual no choice but obedience to the orders of a superior to whom he was attached.


For the socialists, however, "before man could be truly free, the 'despotism of physical want' had to be broken, the ‘restraints of the economic system' relaxed." For Hayek, this new definition of freedom was simply "another name for the old demand for an equal distribution of wealth."


Hayek asks a fascinating question that each and every American needs to consider before deciding whether to return any Obamacare-supporting politician to power this fall:


Who can seriously doubt ... that the power which a multi-millionaire, who may be my neighbor and perhaps my employer, has over me is very much less than that which the smallest [bureaucrat] possess who wields the coercive power of the state and on whose discretion it depends whether and how I am to be allowed to live or to work?


Nancy Pelosi's theory of "economic freedom," you see, requires legions of new bureaucrats wielding the power of the state so that you can be liberated from your inauthentic, job-locked selves. If we take freedom in its true meaning -- as freedom from coercion -- we see instantly, however, that indeed, I am less coerced by a neighboring millionaire than by the tiniest government bureaucrat deciding where and when I can see a doctor, go to school, or become job-locked.


Years ago, before he died, I asked my father what he liked most about working in the home-building industry. After having been "job-locked" in the housing industry for over twenty years, he told me the following: "For me, the best thing of all is seeing a new family move into one of our homes."


My father wasn't a writer or an artist, but he was a kind, decent, hardworking man who loved his job and his family. Rather than struggle against the system and neglect his children like Marx did, my father felt it was part of his job, not the government's, to take care of his family -- including our health care.


Sounds pretty authentic to me.

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Reply #9465 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 7:20am
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I liked the health topic better than the health CARE topic!
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Here's another great article. This is what Obama and the Democrats just shoved down an unwilling public's throat. Now bear in mind, we can rest assured that our health care system will no doubt be much more managable than the UK's. I mean we only have 300 million plus to "take care of". Here's what socialized medicine looks like folks. Have a good look, but be careful what you wish for.


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The Fix Is In


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Why Britain’s National Health Service spends so much and does so little


22 March 2010

Americans would do well to ponder a recent admission by a former British minister in the Blair government. On March 2, the Guardian reported that the ex-minister, now Lord Warner, said that while spending on Britain’s National Health Service had increased by 60 percent under the Labour government, its output had decreased by 4 percent. No doubt the spending of a Soviet-style organization like the NHS is more easily measurable than its output, but the former minister’s remark certainly accords with the experiences of many citizens, who see no dramatic improvement in the service as a result of such vastly increased outlays. On the contrary, while the service has taken on 400,000 new staff members—that is to say, one-fifth of all new jobs created in Britain during the period—continuity of medical care has been all but extinguished. Nobody now expects to see the same doctor on successive occasions, in the hospital or anywhere else.

The ex-minister admitted that most of the extra money—which by now must equal a decent proportion of the total national debt—had been simply wasted. (The same might be said, of course, of the increased outlays put toward state education.) But his explanation for this state of affairs was superficial and self-exculpating, to say the least: he said that the NHS received more money than it knew what to do with because of managerial inexperience. “It was like giving a starving man foie gras and caviar,” he said.

As it happens, the NHS knew exactly what to do with the money: give it to its staff, new and old. British doctors, for example, are now the second-highest-paid in the world, though not necessarily the happiest. They have accepted the money on condition that they also accept—as quietly as mice—increasing government interference in their work. When you go to a family doctor in Britain, he is more likely to do what the government thinks he ought to do and will pay him a bonus for doing than what he thinks is right. This is sinister, even when what the government thinks is right happens to be right.

There is a possible explanation other than managerial inexperience for the waste, namely that the waste was intended and desired: indeed, that it was the principal object of the spending. Experience has long shown that further spending by state-monopoly suppliers of services (if services is quite the word I seek) benefits not the consumers but the providers. And they—ever more numerous—naturally vote for their own providers, the politicians. Thus the NHS has become an enormously expensive method of ballot-stuffing. Personally, I would rather have outright electoral fraud. It would be less expensive and slightly more honest.

Just before the last election, the chief executive of one of the hospitals in which I once worked was overheard saying, “My job is to make sure that the government is reelected.” (The government’s job, in turn, was to make sure that she remained chief executive.) She also explained that the hospital could expect no increase in its government funding, unlike other hospitals—because it was located in an area in which most people voted for the government anyway.
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Here's another great article. This is what Obama and the Democrats just shoved down an unwilling public's throat. Now bear in mind, we can rest assured that our health care system will no doubt be much more managable than the UK's. I mean we only have 300 million plus to "take care of". Here's what socialized medicine looks like folks. Have a good look, but be careful what you wish for.


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The Fix Is In


Theodore Dalrymple

Why Britain’s National Health Service spends so much and does so little


22 March 2010

Americans would do well to ponder a recent admission by a former British minister in the Blair government. On March 2, the Guardian reported that the ex-minister, now Lord Warner, said that while spending on Britain’s National Health Service had increased by 60 percent under the Labour government, its output had decreased by 4 percent. No doubt the spending of a Soviet-style organization like the NHS is more easily measurable than its output, but the former minister’s remark certainly accords with the experiences of many citizens, who see no dramatic improvement in the service as a result of such vastly increased outlays. On the contrary, while the service has taken on 400,000 new staff members—that is to say, one-fifth of all new jobs created in Britain during the period—continuity of medical care has been all but extinguished. Nobody now expects to see the same doctor on successive occasions, in the hospital or anywhere else.

The ex-minister admitted that most of the extra money—which by now must equal a decent proportion of the total national debt—had been simply wasted. (The same might be said, of course, of the increased outlays put toward state education.) But his explanation for this state of affairs was superficial and self-exculpating, to say the least: he said that the NHS received more money than it knew what to do with because of managerial inexperience. “It was like giving a starving man foie gras and caviar,” he said.

As it happens, the NHS knew exactly what to do with the money: give it to its staff, new and old. British doctors, for example, are now the second-highest-paid in the world, though not necessarily the happiest. They have accepted the money on condition that they also accept—as quietly as mice—increasing government interference in their work. When you go to a family doctor in Britain, he is more likely to do what the government thinks he ought to do and will pay him a bonus for doing than what he thinks is right. This is sinister, even when what the government thinks is right happens to be right.

There is a possible explanation other than managerial inexperience for the waste, namely that the waste was intended and desired: indeed, that it was the principal object of the spending. Experience has long shown that further spending by state-monopoly suppliers of services (if services is quite the word I seek) benefits not the consumers but the providers. And they—ever more numerous—naturally vote for their own providers, the politicians. Thus the NHS has become an enormously expensive method of ballot-stuffing. Personally, I would rather have outright electoral fraud. It would be less expensive and slightly more honest.

Just before the last election, the chief executive of one of the hospitals in which I once worked was overheard saying, “My job is to make sure that the government is reelected.” (The government’s job, in turn, was to make sure that she remained chief executive.) She also explained that the hospital could expect no increase in its government funding, unlike other hospitals—because it was located in an area in which most people voted for the government anyway.

So much for the good will we had on here for a day. Shut the fuck up now
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two opinion based articles are considered facts.... haha...

Riify, if think we are a communist country, with commie leaders, than it is you who is a drone, with your head up your ass, like you call others. and yes, that means your a moron. and if you think Maddow is a Cow, then stop chewing the cud, b/c you're standing in a field going moo motherfucker!
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two opinion based articles are considered facts.... haha...

Riify, if think we are a communist country, with commie leaders, than it is you who is a drone, with your head up your ass, like you call others. and yes, that means your a moron. and if you think Maddow is a Cow, then stop chewing the cud, b/c you're standing in a field going moo motherfucker!


You have to give him credit though - calling her that stupid, junior-high name allows him to disrepect her on the basis of her gender, her sexual preference, and her politics all in one fell swoop.  It's ergonomic hate-speech, baby!


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Picked this up along the superhighway......

So we just passed a health care plan written by a committee whose chairman says he didn't understand it, passed by a Congress that exempts themselves from it, signed by a president who smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes, all to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke?
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Reply #9472 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 1:53pm
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Pdog wrote on Mar 24th, 2010 at 9:31am:
two opinion based articles are considered facts.... haha...

Riify, if think we are a communist country, with commie leaders, than it is you who is a drone, with your head up your ass, like you call others. and yes, that means your a moron. and if you think Maddow is a Cow, then stop chewing the cud, b/c you're standing in a field going moo motherfucker!



Opinion based articles?!?! Excuse me? Both those articles offer clear evidence based on actual facts and everything, Pdog! Why not go back and read them again, and then explain to me how they opinion based? I mean what the hell is it going to take for you to realize that, once again, you have been duped?! Are you suggesting that Lord Warner had some kind of "right wing" agenda in mind? The guy was a member of Labour (read-liberal) for his entire life!


Just because you don't like the facts to be openly discussed, doesn't mean that they are any less valid!



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Re:  Obama elected President
Reply #9473 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 1:55pm
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Jesus Christ wrote on Mar 24th, 2010 at 12:14pm:
Pdog wrote on Mar 24th, 2010 at 9:31am:
two opinion based articles are considered facts.... haha...

Riify, if think we are a communist country, with commie leaders, than it is you who is a drone, with your head up your ass, like you call others. and yes, that means your a moron. and if you think Maddow is a Cow, then stop chewing the cud, b/c you're standing in a field going moo motherfucker!


You have to give him credit though - calling her that stupid, junior-high name allows him to disrepect her on the basis of her gender, her sexual preference, and her politics all in one fell swoop.  It's ergonomic hate-speech, baby!


By the way, Comrade PDog,
welcome to the Brave New
World!  

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Reply #9474 - Mar 24th, 2010 at 1:55pm
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Lots of violence going on out there in USA Inc.

Can we start building the high speed rail to FEMA internment camps already . . . .
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