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Question: What item is most likely found in the top drawer of Riffy's dresser?

naked pictures of Reagan    
  5 (20.0%)
Barry O voodoo doll    
  3 (12.0%)
Hoffa's body    
  2 (8.0%)
DVDs of "saved by the bell", season 3    
  1 (4.0%)
JC's boss's phone number    
  2 (8.0%)
bucket of chicken    
  5 (20.0%)
three sticks of "secret" deoderant, labels facing out    
  3 (12.0%)
"Eagles Greatest Hits" CD    
  4 (16.0%)




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Reply #8675 - Feb 8th, 2010 at 9:51am
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Remember in Maverick when he first plays poker. That's Obamas first year.
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Reply #8676 - Feb 8th, 2010 at 11:27am
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Some Guy wrote on Feb 8th, 2010 at 9:51am:
Remember in Maverick when he first plays poker. That's Obamas first year.


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oh...um...SURE I remember...


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I thought the Maverick LOST the election?


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Maverick's are SO last year.
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Jesus Christ wrote on Feb 8th, 2010 at 11:27am:
Some Guy wrote on Feb 8th, 2010 at 9:51am:
Remember in Maverick when he first plays poker. That's Obamas first year.


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oh...um...SURE I remember...


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I thought the Maverick LOST the election?


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Maverick's are SO last year.




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Reply #8678 - Feb 9th, 2010 at 8:37am
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Some Guy wrote on Feb 9th, 2010 at 1:02am:
Jesus Christ wrote on Feb 8th, 2010 at 11:27am:
Some Guy wrote on Feb 8th, 2010 at 9:51am:
Remember in Maverick when he first plays poker. That's Obamas first year.


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oh...um...SURE I remember...


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I thought the Maverick LOST the election?


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Maverick's are SO last year.




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Oh!  Melvin Gibbon. He's my fave.

Is that the one that's all in ancient Arameic?
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Reply #8679 - Feb 9th, 2010 at 8:49am
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Jesus Christ wrote on Feb 9th, 2010 at 8:37am:
Some Guy wrote on Feb 9th, 2010 at 1:02am:
Jesus Christ wrote on Feb 8th, 2010 at 11:27am:
Some Guy wrote on Feb 8th, 2010 at 9:51am:
Remember in Maverick when he first plays poker. That's Obamas first year.


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oh...um...SURE I remember...


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I thought the Maverick LOST the election?


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Maverick's are SO last year.




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Oh!  Melvin Gibbon. He's my fave.

Is that the one that's all in ancient Arameic?



You're probably thinking of mel's jesus snuff film, which by the way was the all time biggest box office take of jesus movies.

Apparently, they wanted to see blood and extreme agony, so mel delivered.
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Reply #8680 - Feb 10th, 2010 at 9:15am
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I guess Palin was in Texas recently, campaigning for Perry.

This photo is worth a thousand werds . . .
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Reply #8681 - Feb 10th, 2010 at 9:33am
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Everyday, until I tire of it... I'm writing on my hand random stuff in the morning and throughout the day going to look at it while talking to people... I'm a dick like that...  Thank Sarah Palin for being perhaps the most intelectually devoid public personality in decades, and the hope for people who are more ignorant than a rock. you've given my life joy and happiness and being able to be silly, happy and carefree while making fun of your dumbfuck ignorant hillbilly in-bred ideas! Soundbite policy and politics is why they hate us!!!

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Reply #8682 - Feb 10th, 2010 at 3:32pm
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Just a real quick heads up.


Anthropological Global Warming is crap, and Obama still sucks with teeth. He sucks twice as much today as he did yesterday, and half as much as he will tomorrow.


That is all.



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Reply #8683 - Feb 10th, 2010 at 3:49pm
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First, it's climate change, not "global warming".  Now, when are we going to see Riffy's analysis of Barack's TelePrompTer-free ass-whuppin' of House Republicans?  Riffy?  Don't make me bring back the crickets.  "Chirp-chirp-chirp."
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Reply #8684 - Feb 10th, 2010 at 3:59pm
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Riffhard wrote on Feb 10th, 2010 at 3:32pm:
Just a real quick heads up.


Anthropological Global Warming is crap, and Obama still sucks with teeth. He sucks twice as much today as he did yesterday, and half as much as he will tomorrow.


That is all.



Riffy

No comment on your girl Sarah or the fake phony windbag Rush Limbaugh?.....Riffy,your getting soft. Nanker
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No it was "global warming" until the climate decided to prove that Algore and his bunch of lying power hungry climate "scientists" got their lunch handed to them by GOD!!! LOL! Please tell me when the climate was not changing?! No matter what you want to call it, it's a lie. The funny thing is that my side of the argument has real honest to god facts to back up the position! Your side has a bunch of so-called climatologists that make hundreds of millions in research grant money, and they have been proven to be liars again, and again, and again,....Keep on believing though, BJ. Whatever gets you through the night I guess. Just don't you dare question my intellect when I call these clowns out for what their own emails have proven them to be. Namely, liars.

Oh, and Obama's "ass whuppin'" of the Republicans has done exactly what for his poll numbers?! LOL!

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He sucks! Deal with it! Some here tried to warn you. He's a leftarded fucknut with a massive ego, and little else. He has shit for brains when it comes to the economy, national defense, health care, ad nauseum...

Let's go over this again, shall we?

John Corzine spends more money than any political candidate in history, in one of the bluest states in the nation, and he losses.

Virginia just elected a record number of Republicans to council seats, and state legislature positions, and, of course, Bob McDonnell for Gov.

In Massachusetts a seat that was considered untouchable as little as six months ago is now safely in the hands of the grownups again with Scott Brown.

John Murtha is dead. No tears from me for that bastard. Gee, does that make me mean? Who cares! This bastard called our own Marines murderers. Then when they were completely exonerated he never offered up an apology! F'em! Rot in hell you corrupt porkish slimeball! Anyway his seat is going to be lost to the Republicans!

So too is Harry Reid's seat in Nevada.

Hello, Barbara Boxer! Her seat is toast too!


Everything that I said about Barry destroying the Democrat party is happening exactly as I predicted it would!


It didn't take a Harvard degree to figure all of this out. I mean just look at this fucking moron of a president!!! He sucks!! He is the worst president in US history!

Just like I said he would be!!!!




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Climate change or global warming or whatever name you want to attach to it is not crap. It's a phenomenon that's hijacked in a political war.

So naysayers, try to visualise an almost frozen swimming pool and you get to throw a bunch of liberals in the freezing water. If you want to start with Obama and leave it at that, he'll turn blue and fight for his life. Water will remain almost frozen. Now throw in Ralph Nader, Michael Moore, the Clinton Clan, Jesse Jackson, Al Gore, the leaders of the European Union, Bono and the founding memners of Green Peace and what wil happen next? instead of all those people turning blue and shit, the water starts to warm up. This is exactly what is happening to the world right now: people and cities cause warmth. Earth can take a punch or two, but with 7 bilion people running around, cows to put burgers on the grill for all those folks and bilions of fridges to cool the beer, the place starts to warm up. Perhaps it's not a bad as a tree hugger like myself thinks it is (which I doubt), but you can't deny it's there.
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Main Entry: weath·er
Pronunciation: \ˈwe-thər\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English weder, from Old English; akin to Old High German wetar weather, Old Church Slavic vetrŭ wind
Date: before 12th century

1 : the state of the atmosphere with respect to heat or cold, wetness or dryness, calm or storm, clearness or cloudiness
2 : state or vicissitude of life or fortune
3 : disagreeable atmospheric conditions: as a : rain, storm b : cold air with dampness



Main Entry: cli·mate
Pronunciation: \ˈklī-mət\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English climat, from Middle French, from Late Latin climat-, clima, from Greek klimat-, klima inclination, latitude, climate, from klinein to lean — more at lean
Date: 14th century

1 : a region of the earth having specified climatic conditions
2 a : the average course or condition of the weather at a place usually over a period of years as exhibited by temperature, wind velocity, and precipitation b : the prevailing set of conditions (as of temperature and humidity) indoors <a climate-controlled office>
3 : the prevailing influence or environmental conditions characterizing a group or period




Climate scientists don't agree en masse so that they can get funding. That's crazy.

Faux opinion givers (and Limbaugh) agree en masse so that they can get funding (commercial revenue). That's fact.
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Reply #8689 - Feb 10th, 2010 at 4:41pm
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Teiz wrote on Feb 10th, 2010 at 4:27pm:
Climate change or global warming or whatever name you want to attach to it is not crap. It's a phenomenon that's hijacked in a political war.

So naysayers, try to visualise an almost frozen swimming pool and you get to throw a bunch of liberals in the freezing water. If you want to start with Obama and leave it at that, he'll turn blue and fight for his life. Water will remain almost frozen. Now throw in Ralph Nader, Michael Moore, the Clinton Clan, Jesse Jackson, Al Gore, the leaders of the European Union, Bono and the founding memners of Green Peace and what wil happen next? instead of all those people turning blue and shit, the water starts to warm up. This is exactly what is happening to the world right now: people and cities cause warmth. Earth can take a punch or two, but with 7 bilion people running around, cows to put burgers on the grill for all those folks and bilions of fridges to cool the beer, the place starts to warm up. Perhaps it's not a bad as a tree hugger like myself thinks it is (which I doubt), but you can't deny it's there.



Me too. I hope it's not as bad as I suspect it is.

2009 was the 2nd hottest year on record. The past 10 years were the hottest recorded decade, EVER.


This all sounds reminiscent of the "tobacco causes cancer" deniers.
Remember, the doctors just wanted grant money for their research.
And the poor tobacco farm owners, and the job losses.

Sadly, our tobacco industry just moved their death product to corrupt 3rd world countries, where they flourish these days.
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Reply #8690 - Feb 10th, 2010 at 4:42pm
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Main Entry: weath·er
Pronunciation: \ˈwe-thər\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English weder, from Old English; akin to Old High German wetar weather, Old Church Slavic vetrŭ wind
Date: before 12th century

1 : the state of the atmosphere with respect to heat or cold, wetness or dryness, calm or storm, clearness or cloudiness
2 : state or vicissitude of life or fortune
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Main Entry: cli·mate
Pronunciation: \ˈklī-mət\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English climat, from Middle French, from Late Latin climat-, clima, from Greek klimat-, klima inclination, latitude, climate, from klinein to lean — more at lean
Date: 14th century

1 : a region of the earth having specified climatic conditions
2 a : the average course or condition of the weather at a place usually over a period of years as exhibited by temperature, wind velocity, and precipitation b : the prevailing set of conditions (as of temperature and humidity) indoors <a climate-controlled office>
3 : the prevailing influence or environmental conditions characterizing a group or period




Climate scientists don't agree en masse so that they can get funding. That's crazy.

Faux opinion givers (and Limbaugh) agree en masse so that they can get funding (commercial revenue). That's fact.




Ummm, you are full of shit! You are easily the most gullible liberal that I have ever met on this board. I can give you link after link of climatologists numbering in the thousands that say straight up, "Man made climate change is horseshit!!!"



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Reply #8692 - Feb 10th, 2010 at 5:00pm
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Ok, please post that list. I would like to see it . . .

It doesn't need to be thousands of links, as you claim.
Just pick the ones you think are believable.
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Riffhard wrote on Feb 10th, 2010 at 4:53pm:
fuman wrote on Feb 10th, 2010 at 4:34pm:
Main Entry: weath·er
Pronunciation: \ˈwe-thər\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English weder, from Old English; akin to Old High German wetar weather, Old Church Slavic vetrŭ wind
Date: before 12th century

1 : the state of the atmosphere with respect to heat or cold, wetness or dryness, calm or storm, clearness or cloudiness
2 : state or vicissitude of life or fortune
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Main Entry: cli·mate
Pronunciation: \ˈklī-mət\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English climat, from Middle French, from Late Latin climat-, clima, from Greek klimat-, klima inclination, latitude, climate, from klinein to lean — more at lean
Date: 14th century

1 : a region of the earth having specified climatic conditions
2 a : the average course or condition of the weather at a place usually over a period of years as exhibited by temperature, wind velocity, and precipitation b : the prevailing set of conditions (as of temperature and humidity) indoors <a climate-controlled office>
3 : the prevailing influence or environmental conditions characterizing a group or period




Climate scientists don't agree en masse so that they can get funding. That's crazy.

Faux opinion givers (and Limbaugh) agree en masse so that they can get funding (commercial revenue). That's fact.




Ummm, you are full of shit! You are easily the most gullible liberal that I have ever met on this board. I can give you link after link of climatologists numbering in the thousands that say straight up, "Man made climate change is horseshit!!!"



Riffy


please link the one you loved to use, from the guy who took money from big oil companies to do science, he was the best... and you bitch about grants... haha... you're like the dip shit on fox yesterday who mentioned the blizzard when discussiing this issue... weather, climate, it's just a bunch of intelectual science stuff... you don't beleive in that, you read books, right?
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Reply #8694 - Feb 10th, 2010 at 11:22pm
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Do I read?!?!?! LOL! I promise you one thing Pdog. I read a whole hell of a lot more than you do on this subject!!! That much I can guarantee you!!!



Here you go you gullible fools. Here's one link, however, there are many links that follow that might interest you as well. Funny, most climatologists are now downplaying man-made, or anthropological climate change all together. I guess you guys are still too busy reading shit from HuffPo and the DailyKook to actually keep up with the facts. Boy hard left Obama types must see you guys coming from a mile away! Gullible! Just the way they like 'em in leftardsville!


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Testimony of John Coleman
before the
Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests and Public Lands
of the
Committee on Natural Resources
of the United States Congress


April 7, 2009

Thank you to the Committee for the invitation to appear here today. And to any who listen to my remarks or read them later, thank you for your consideration of my testimony.
I come before this Subcommittee with no allusions or expectations. I am aware that for the majority of the Committee and most involved government officials my conclusions will run counter to your interests and agenda and will be ignored. None-the-less, I have made the effort to be here today because I feel what I have to contribute should at least be in the record.
Here is what I know as scientific fact: There is no significant man-made global warming or climate change at this time, there has not been any in the past and there is little reason to fear any in the future.

I did not say that the activities of man do not alter the weather and climate, because it is clear they do. What I said there is no significant man-made climate change and none should be reasonably expected to occur in the future.

I have visited most of the National Parks in the United States and love them. I have enormous appreciation for the efforts to protect our environment and provide places and ways for the citizens to enjoy the amazing beauty and powerful natural forces at work around us and interact with the thousands of species that live in those parks and related natural areas. Clearly, it is a huge task to balance between access and protection. I honor that.

But here is crux of what I can contribute to the issue before us. The science behind this current global warming, man-made climate change commotion, has failed to verify. The hypothesis that our carbon footprints produced by our use of fossil fuels is producing a significant greenhouse effect that will lead to climate calamity has failed to verify. So I repeat, there is no significant man-made global climate change.

I have studied the research papers of the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and examined the science presented by Al Gore in his books, his movie and his power point. I have traced the history of the development of the concept of carbon dioxide in the exhaust from our cars, power plants and industrial plants entering the atmosphere and interacting with the primary greenhouse gas, water vapor, to magnify warming. It all collapses into a failed theory when examined with scientific care. I am not alone in reaching this conclusion. In the past year, 34 thousand scientists, 10 thousand with PhDs, have signed a statement debunking global warming.

There is solid scientific evidence that by burning fossil fuels our civilization increases the amount of carbon dioxide, CO2, in the atmosphere. However, even after 150 years of burning fossil fuels, CO2 remains a tiny trace gas. To be precise only 380 molecules out of every one million are CO2. Scientists with an anti-fossil fuel agenda developed a theory of radiative forcing to explain how this trace gas could create runaway greenhouse warming. They put that theory into general circulation computer models. Their models then projected a continuous rapid rise in global temperatures year after year. In the 1980s and 1990's the models seemed on track as temperatures climbed. But in 1998 the warming stopped. By 2002 a rapid cooling had begun. That cooling continues today. The computer proof has failed. It has become clear the warming in the 80s and 90s was at the peak of a solar cycle and now that the sun has gone very quiet, cooling has gripped the planet. Yet the models continue to predict warming that is not happening. There is no significant warming from CO2.

I am painfully aware that global warming has become a political issue. I deeply regret that. The latest Gallup Poll documents the wide divide on the issue: 66 percent of Republicans are of the opinion that the claims of global warming are exaggerated; only 22
percent of Democrats are of that position. I want to make very clear my conclusion is in no way politically based.
I was a science reporter for ABC News in the 1970's when there was a similar flurry of excitement about a coming Ice Age. Thankfully our government and political parties didn't get involved so when the science got things straightened out, the frenzy faded away. Unfortunately, this time people with the anti fossil fuel agenda had jumped on the global warming bandwagon and just won't let go. They have calmed the rhetoric to climate change, but they are still all wrapped up in cap and trade to tax our use of fossil fuels. This will do great harm to our economy but do nothing of consequence to protect the environment.

My advice to the National Park Service and the Subcommittee is: Do nothing to mitigate man-made global warming or climate change, because there is none. Reject the extremist agendas and concentrate on your wonderful work protecting our natural resources and making natural experiences available to us citizens of today and generations to follow.

To any who have an interest in pursuing the sources behind my scientific conclusions I provide a list of internet links with my written testimony.

Again, thank you for allowing me to present my testimony and place it into the record.



Two Palm Springs TV stations were there. Their coverage also accepted the dominate line of the day, but both did include me in their reports. LInks to their video are below:
KESQ CHANNEL 3:
http://www.kesq.com/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?ClipID1=3630037&h1=Delega...
KPSP CHANNEL 2
http://www.kpsplocal2.com/Global/story.asp?S=10147556
Links referenced in John Coleman’s remarks

http://icecap.us
The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
http://www.ipcc.ch/
The Al Gore movie, "An Inconvenient Truth
http://www.climatecrisis.net/
An online article about the word "deniers" used to describe Global Warming skeptics
http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/1782/
United Nations IPCC Chapter 9, the key chapter on CO2 Forcing
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-chapter9.pdf
Natural Resources Defense Council Global Warming report
http://www.nrdc.org/globalWarming/fcons.asp
Michael Mann and the Hockey Stick Chart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Mann_(scientist)
Stephen McIntyre and Ross McKitrick’s Paper refuting the Hockey Stick Chart
http://www.climateaudit.org/pdf/mcintyre.grl.2005.pdf
Stephen McIntyre’s website
http://www.climateaudit.org
Ross McKitrick’s website
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/ross.html
NASA web pages on average annual temperatures
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/earth_warm.html
Dr. Mayhay Khandekar and Joseph D’Aleo’s post on the problems with the NASA average temperature calculations
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/PITFALLS.pdf
Dr. Roger Pielke Sr;’s post on problems with calculation average global temperatures:
http://climatesci.org/2008/02/08/an-error-in-the-construction-of-a-single-global...
Ross McKitrick and Pat Michaels paper detailing how observation points change over time influences global average temperatures
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/MM.JGRDec07.pdf

Anthony Watts discovers serious site problems with many official weather observation stations in the United States and conducts a national effort to survey every location
http://surfacestations.org/
Dr. Ben Herman investigates questionable exaggerations in maximum temperatures at locations where certain types of new temperature sensors have been installed.
http://climatesci.org/2008/01/21/guest-weblog-by-professor-ben-herman-of-the-uni...
The controversy about the influence of urban heat islands on global temperatures is covered in the Wikipedia article at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_heat_island
Long term climate changes on Earth, resulting from natural causes, primarily variations in the radiation received from the Sun are detailed by D. Bruce Merrifield
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/07/global_warming_and_solar_radia_1.html
I write about the solar influence on climate variations on Earth in my brief The Force behind Climate Change
http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Comments+on+Global+Warming.pdf
Roger Revelle, the Grandfather of Global Warming and the man who inspired Al Gore, cautioned against alarmism from the carbon dioxide build-up
http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemanscorner/40867912.html
Carbon Dioxide characterized as a pollutant, the force behind global warming
http://worldcoolers.org/co2map/
Typical newspaper article decrying carbon dioxide build-up in the atmosphere
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003716817_carbon22.html
Union of Concerned Scientists page on carbon dioxide
http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_vehicles/vehicles_health/cars-and-trucks-and-global-...
The key Paper by Arthur B. Robinson, Noah E. Robinson and Willie Soon that explains that Carbon Dioxide Forcing is not valid
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/other/Robinson_Soon.pdf
Another excellent Paper by Allan M.R, MacRae showing that Carbon Dioxide is not the primary force in climate change
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/CO2vsTMacRae.pdf
Dr. David Evans Paper showing that Carbon Dioxide does not cause Global Warming
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/Evans-CO2DoesNotCauseGW.pdf


Alan Cheetham details the history of the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change)
http://www.appinsys.com/GlobalWarming/GW_History.htm
Dr. John McLean details the lack of significant peer review of the IPCC documents
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/mclean/mclean_...
Dr. Vincent Gray writes about his experience as a member of the IPCC
http://nzclimatescience.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=155&Itemid...
The report on the over 700 scientists who have spoken out in opposition to global warming
http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentReco...
The website of the global warming debunkers petition with over 31 thousand signatures:
http://www.petitionproject.org/
My webpage which contains numerous other documents and links:
http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemanscorner
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Climate change or global warming or whatever name you want to attach to it is not crap. It's a phenomenon that's hijacked in a political war.

So naysayers, try to visualise an almost frozen swimming pool and you get to throw a bunch of liberals in the freezing water. If you want to start with Obama and leave it at that, he'll turn blue and fight for his life. Water will remain almost frozen. Now throw in Ralph Nader, Michael Moore, the Clinton Clan, Jesse Jackson, Al Gore, the leaders of the European Union, Bono and the founding memners of Green Peace and what wil happen next? instead of all those people turning blue and shit, the water starts to warm up. This is exactly what is happening to the world right now: people and cities cause warmth. Earth can take a punch or two, but with 7 bilion people running around, cows to put burgers on the grill for all those folks and bilions of fridges to cool the beer, the place starts to warm up. Perhaps it's not a bad as a tree hugger like myself thinks it is (which I doubt), but you can't deny it's there.


teiz...dude...you hit the nail on the head.

global warming...climate change...whether the specifics of the argument are right or wrong, riffboof, you can't deny that 7 billion people driving around in subarus are going to have a negative effect on the planet.

fossil fuels are cancer. people are killing the planet.
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"whether the specifics of the argument are right or wrong, riffboof, you can't deny that 7 billion people driving around in subarus are going to have a negative effect on the planet."

It has been pretty well exposed, time and again, that the "specifics of the argument" are wrong if you believe either the UN or Al Gore.  And by jettisoning the specifics of the argument in favor of a wildly broad "7 billion people driving around in Subarus are going to have a negative effect on the planet" - yeah, I think everyone can agree on that.

In fact, in driving around in the blizzard here in DC, I saw a bunch of those lame ass subarus stuck in the ditch, clogging up the path for me and my SUV!  Wish people would trade that crap in for a real truck....   

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Do I read?!?!?! LOL! I promise you one thing Pdog. I read a whole hell of a lot more than you do on this subject!!! That much I can guarantee you!!!



Here you go you gullible fools. Here's one link, however, there are many links that follow that might interest you as well. Funny, most climatologists are now downplaying man-made, or anthropological climate change all together. I guess you guys are still too busy reading shit from HuffPo and the DailyKook to actually keep up with the facts. Boy hard left Obama types must see you guys coming from a mile away! Gullible! Just the way they like 'em in leftardsville!


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Testimony of John Coleman
before the
Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests and Public Lands
of the
Committee on Natural Resources
of the United States Congress


April 7, 2009

Thank you to the Committee for the invitation to appear here today. And to any who listen to my remarks or read them later, thank you for your consideration of my testimony.
I come before this Subcommittee with no allusions or expectations. I am aware that for the majority of the Committee and most involved government officials my conclusions will run counter to your interests and agenda and will be ignored. None-the-less, I have made the effort to be here today because I feel what I have to contribute should at least be in the record.
Here is what I know as scientific fact: There is no significant man-made global warming or climate change at this time, there has not been any in the past and there is little reason to fear any in the future.

I did not say that the activities of man do not alter the weather and climate, because it is clear they do. What I said there is no significant man-made climate change and none should be reasonably expected to occur in the future.

I have visited most of the National Parks in the United States and love them. I have enormous appreciation for the efforts to protect our environment and provide places and ways for the citizens to enjoy the amazing beauty and powerful natural forces at work around us and interact with the thousands of species that live in those parks and related natural areas. Clearly, it is a huge task to balance between access and protection. I honor that.

But here is crux of what I can contribute to the issue before us. The science behind this current global warming, man-made climate change commotion, has failed to verify. The hypothesis that our carbon footprints produced by our use of fossil fuels is producing a significant greenhouse effect that will lead to climate calamity has failed to verify. So I repeat, there is no significant man-made global climate change.

I have studied the research papers of the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and examined the science presented by Al Gore in his books, his movie and his power point. I have traced the history of the development of the concept of carbon dioxide in the exhaust from our cars, power plants and industrial plants entering the atmosphere and interacting with the primary greenhouse gas, water vapor, to magnify warming. It all collapses into a failed theory when examined with scientific care. I am not alone in reaching this conclusion. In the past year, 34 thousand scientists, 10 thousand with PhDs, have signed a statement debunking global warming.

There is solid scientific evidence that by burning fossil fuels our civilization increases the amount of carbon dioxide, CO2, in the atmosphere. However, even after 150 years of burning fossil fuels, CO2 remains a tiny trace gas. To be precise only 380 molecules out of every one million are CO2. Scientists with an anti-fossil fuel agenda developed a theory of radiative forcing to explain how this trace gas could create runaway greenhouse warming. They put that theory into general circulation computer models. Their models then projected a continuous rapid rise in global temperatures year after year. In the 1980s and 1990's the models seemed on track as temperatures climbed. But in 1998 the warming stopped. By 2002 a rapid cooling had begun. That cooling continues today. The computer proof has failed. It has become clear the warming in the 80s and 90s was at the peak of a solar cycle and now that the sun has gone very quiet, cooling has gripped the planet. Yet the models continue to predict warming that is not happening. There is no significant warming from CO2.

I am painfully aware that global warming has become a political issue. I deeply regret that. The latest Gallup Poll documents the wide divide on the issue: 66 percent of Republicans are of the opinion that the claims of global warming are exaggerated; only 22
percent of Democrats are of that position. I want to make very clear my conclusion is in no way politically based.
I was a science reporter for ABC News in the 1970's when there was a similar flurry of excitement about a coming Ice Age. Thankfully our government and political parties didn't get involved so when the science got things straightened out, the frenzy faded away. Unfortunately, this time people with the anti fossil fuel agenda had jumped on the global warming bandwagon and just won't let go. They have calmed the rhetoric to climate change, but they are still all wrapped up in cap and trade to tax our use of fossil fuels. This will do great harm to our economy but do nothing of consequence to protect the environment.

My advice to the National Park Service and the Subcommittee is: Do nothing to mitigate man-made global warming or climate change, because there is none. Reject the extremist agendas and concentrate on your wonderful work protecting our natural resources and making natural experiences available to us citizens of today and generations to follow.

To any who have an interest in pursuing the sources behind my scientific conclusions I provide a list of internet links with my written testimony.

Again, thank you for allowing me to present my testimony and place it into the record.



Two Palm Springs TV stations were there. Their coverage also accepted the dominate line of the day, but both did include me in their reports. LInks to their video are below:
KESQ CHANNEL 3:
http://www.kesq.com/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?ClipID1=3630037&h1=Delega...
KPSP CHANNEL 2
http://www.kpsplocal2.com/Global/story.asp?S=10147556
Links referenced in John Coleman’s remarks

http://icecap.us
The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
http://www.ipcc.ch/
The Al Gore movie, "An Inconvenient Truth
http://www.climatecrisis.net/
An online article about the word "deniers" used to describe Global Warming skeptics
http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/1782/
United Nations IPCC Chapter 9, the key chapter on CO2 Forcing
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-chapter9.pdf
Natural Resources Defense Council Global Warming report
http://www.nrdc.org/globalWarming/fcons.asp
Michael Mann and the Hockey Stick Chart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Mann_(scientist)
Stephen McIntyre and Ross McKitrick’s Paper refuting the Hockey Stick Chart
http://www.climateaudit.org/pdf/mcintyre.grl.2005.pdf
Stephen McIntyre’s website
http://www.climateaudit.org
Ross McKitrick’s website
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/ross.html
NASA web pages on average annual temperatures
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/earth_warm.html
Dr. Mayhay Khandekar and Joseph D’Aleo’s post on the problems with the NASA average temperature calculations
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/PITFALLS.pdf
Dr. Roger Pielke Sr;’s post on problems with calculation average global temperatures:
http://climatesci.org/2008/02/08/an-error-in-the-construction-of-a-single-global...
Ross McKitrick and Pat Michaels paper detailing how observation points change over time influences global average temperatures
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/MM.JGRDec07.pdf

Anthony Watts discovers serious site problems with many official weather observation stations in the United States and conducts a national effort to survey every location
http://surfacestations.org/
Dr. Ben Herman investigates questionable exaggerations in maximum temperatures at locations where certain types of new temperature sensors have been installed.
http://climatesci.org/2008/01/21/guest-weblog-by-professor-ben-herman-of-the-uni...
The controversy about the influence of urban heat islands on global temperatures is covered in the Wikipedia article at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_heat_island
Long term climate changes on Earth, resulting from natural causes, primarily variations in the radiation received from the Sun are detailed by D. Bruce Merrifield
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/07/global_warming_and_solar_radia_1.html
I write about the solar influence on climate variations on Earth in my brief The Force behind Climate Change
http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Comments+on+Global+Warming.pdf
Roger Revelle, the Grandfather of Global Warming and the man who inspired Al Gore, cautioned against alarmism from the carbon dioxide build-up
http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemanscorner/40867912.html
Carbon Dioxide characterized as a pollutant, the force behind global warming
http://worldcoolers.org/co2map/
Typical newspaper article decrying carbon dioxide build-up in the atmosphere
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003716817_carbon22.html
Union of Concerned Scientists page on carbon dioxide
http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_vehicles/vehicles_health/cars-and-trucks-and-global-...
The key Paper by Arthur B. Robinson, Noah E. Robinson and Willie Soon that explains that Carbon Dioxide Forcing is not valid
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/other/Robinson_Soon.pdf
Another excellent Paper by Allan M.R, MacRae showing that Carbon Dioxide is not the primary force in climate change
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/CO2vsTMacRae.pdf
Dr. David Evans Paper showing that Carbon Dioxide does not cause Global Warming
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/Evans-CO2DoesNotCauseGW.pdf


Alan Cheetham details the history of the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change)
http://www.appinsys.com/GlobalWarming/GW_History.htm
Dr. John McLean details the lack of significant peer review of the IPCC documents
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/mclean/mclean_...
Dr. Vincent Gray writes about his experience as a member of the IPCC
http://nzclimatescience.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=155&Itemid...
The report on the over 700 scientists who have spoken out in opposition to global warming
http://www.epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentReco...
The website of the global warming debunkers petition with over 31 thousand signatures:
http://www.petitionproject.org/
My webpage which contains numerous other documents and links:
http://www.kusi.com/weather/colemanscorner



Thanks for the links.


How can you "promise" that you read more? You can "guarantee" it?


Pdog, you better get your home scanned for bugs.
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