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Question: What item is most likely found in the top drawer of Riffy's dresser?

naked pictures of Reagan    
  5 (20.0%)
Barry O voodoo doll    
  3 (12.0%)
Hoffa's body    
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DVDs of "saved by the bell", season 3    
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JC's boss's phone number    
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bucket of chicken    
  5 (20.0%)
three sticks of "secret" deoderant, labels facing out    
  3 (12.0%)
"Eagles Greatest Hits" CD    
  4 (16.0%)




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Reply #8600 - Feb 3rd, 2010 at 2:50pm
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Just checkin in guys...anyone change sides yet?...hmmmmm ok on with the show!  Anyone else suspect Some Guys post as a cut and paste job????

I lifted that from Obama last week! Better seen on weed! Let's go get drunk
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Pdog wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 2:07pm:
Nothing Riffy stands for is very rock n' roll... It's the polar opposite... and the abusive language too... I liked the tone much better when you were gone.
Everyone is wrong sometimes... a man who never admits his wrongs and tells everyone else they are wrong, is a sad person, without joy. I can hear you know, yelling and screaming, trying to convince us you're happy...

I'm still unhappy about Riffy running off moonie...
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Obama averted a Depression ??????????????????
The jobs are still being lost ... 14,000,000 unemplyed ...
no telling how many of the Underclass have stopped looking ...
the Obama Era is not a depression only if you have a job ...
try finding one when you get out sourced ... it's 8 to 1 on every opening ...
Obama is a lying & cheating politican ... who works best behind closed doors ...

was this the change the US voted for??? Hell No ... when the burden of the
National Debt is killing this Nation ... Our Idiot thinks he can spend us out of it??

How in Hell did he get elected? One Hell of a fraud is how !!!
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Reply #8603 - Feb 3rd, 2010 at 3:23pm
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stupid little cunt drip?

zoinks!!!

Ouch!

perhaps moonpie might make a comeback. he and rob have been posting nude pics of mean joe greene on facebook for months.
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Reply #8604 - Feb 3rd, 2010 at 3:55pm
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Riffhard wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 12:48pm:
Let's get something straight here you stupid little cunt drip.



Your constant use of naughty euphemisms for female reproductive organs as the most insulting terms you can muster is rather telling. Why do you hate women?


Riffhard wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 12:48pm:
Obama is a socialist! He is actually more of a Marxist! He is all about wealth redistribution ie: stealing from one group to give to another group.


Ah, I see, as with your appetite for Nietzsche, you have read ALL of Marx and are probably considered quite an expert on the subject around the water cooler.


Riffhard wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 12:48pm:
In doing this he destroys the job creators, and thus the jobs that they would be creating under any other circumstance.



Is that what he's doing? He's destroying job creators? Why would he do that?



Riffhard wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 12:48pm:
This is all by design, of course.  


Oh, RIGHT, because he has everything to gain by DESTROYING AMERICA.



Riffhard wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 12:48pm:
It must be nice to live in a world where you can ignore the lessons from the past,


Hoo hoo. I'm not even going to touch that low-hanging fruit.



Riffhard wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 12:48pm:
and heap praise on an ideologue that has done more damage to our free market capitalist system than any foreign power could dare dream to do!


Hmmm...I guess you mean the President...please point me to the posts where I "heap praise" on him. I'm confused, too...if HE'S an idealogue, why did he decide NOT to investigate the Bush admin's wrongdoings, to escalate the war in Afghanistan, and all of the many other decidedly non-Marxist things he's done since taking office?

What exactly IS an idealogue...and howe are you NOT one?


Riffhard wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 12:48pm:
The Republicans are not going to call the fucker a socialist or Marxist in a public forum where he was speaking!


Oh, right.

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Riffhard wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 12:48pm:
Only the Marxist fuck himself would be so impertinent to insult another branch of the government in such a fashion, ala Obummer's slam of the SCOTUS. Remember that little stunt fuckboy?? You know where blatantly lied about the ruling from the court?!



If he "blatantly lied", then so did the four dissenting justices. They said that the decision "...afford[s] the same protection to multinational corporations controlled by foreigners as to individual Americans...."

You should really back-pedal to your initial response to this case - that you like it just because it pisses off democrats. Because support of "activist justices legislating from the bench" is usually not something your side does. Your subsequent statement that it's "brilliant" is obviously just you regurgitating Mark Levin's loathsome bile. 


I could understand you getting all huffy about corporations having the same rights as individuals if you were an industrialist. But you're not. Believe me, the corporations have plenty of support ($$$$) for their viewpoint without you.



Riffhard wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 12:48pm:
Take a look at Democrat poll numbers these days you moron. Where did all the independents go? They woke up out of their drone-like trance. You are too ideologically invested in the worst president in US history to ever imagine questioning his un-American Marxist leanings, but pity you, America is waking up.


I'm not "idealogically invested" in any politician. YOU, however, have made it your raison d'etre to be The Guy Who Won't Shut Up About Obama, to the disgraceful extent of wishing your country and fellow countrymen ill. 

Riffhard wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 12:48pm:
Oh, and as always, go fuck yourself pussy!


Why you be hatin' on the pussy, Riffbiff?

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Riffhard wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 12:48pm:
PS-Our Founding Fathers would have strung this fucker up a long time ago for treason to state!!!


As touching as your imagery of the Founding Fathers as a lynch mob hanging America's first black president is, I think their problem with him would probably just be that some of them believed blacks to be inferior mentally, and not worthy of voting rights, let alone holding office.

We've come a long way, Riffy!
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Reply #8605 - Feb 3rd, 2010 at 3:58pm
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gimmekeef wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 2:46pm:
Just checkin in guys...anyone change sides yet?...hmmmmm ok on with the show!  Anyone else suspect Some Guys post as a cut and paste job????

I lifted that from Obama last week! Better seen on weed! Let's go get drunk


lol   I knew that was way too much typing for you!
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Riffhard wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 3:36pm:
Pdog wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 2:07pm:
Nothing Riffy stands for is very rock n' roll... It's the polar opposite... and the abusive language too... I liked the tone much better when you were gone.
Everyone is wrong sometimes... a man who never admits his wrongs and tells everyone else they are wrong, is a sad person, without joy. I can hear you know, yelling and screaming, trying to convince us you're happy...




LOL! Oh I see. You're questioning my "rock and roll" credentials now? How very adult of you. My R&R cred is just fine thank you very much. However, I suppose you could always contact my employer and put the question to them. That seems like a rock and roll thing to do.

As for me having my priorities askew. Well, you're wrong. Simple as that. My priorities with regards to the war on terror is simple. Kill them. Kill them by the bucket load. Don't grant them shit for US Constitutional rights. And if need be, water board the fuck out of them until they give up info. As was the case for three radical Islamic fucks that Obama has now bestowed constitutional rights on. I'm kind of like Patton in that regard.

I always admit it when I'm wrong. Always! I will not admit to shit about Obama because I have posted for well over a year on this thread, and almost every warning about this man that I sounded was ignored and written off some "right wing smear". Now a year later I have been proven 100% correct, and only a few former drones have had the nerve (and class) to PM and tell me just that. The rest of you are either full blow lemmings, or hard core true ultra leftists that openly embrace the ever expanding role of the federal government, and shrinking role of idividual liberty. Either way, I find it disgusting, and dare I say it, completely un-American. Why? Because it is!!! Obama's vision of America is polarly opposite of the vision that our Founding Fathers had.


As for my language. Pdog you seem to have very selective memory. I know this may come as a shock to you, but I know for a fact that JC is Jon. Formerly FPM C-10. I met the man. I drank with the man. I befriended the man. What did that get me? It got my a face full of paw (thank you Bob Dylan). He slammed me, and everyone that thought like I did. He said some of the nastiest things that anyone could ever say to another person, especially a person that you have broken bread with. I was never once nasty towards the guy, but now I am never going to me anything but nasty towards him because he has not had the balls to just apologize for being an asshole. As for any nastiness directed towards anyone else? Well when a guy like funman says that Obama averted a depression?!?!?! I mean, what the hell am I supposed to say to that?! It's laughable! I would never call funman the names that I call JC, nor have I called you those names. However JC? He will always be a little piece of pussified shit to me. He's a little smug elitist punk who won't even cop to his real identity. So fuck him.


I said that I would come back to this thread when 2010 rolled around so that I could bask in the glory of being proven right. Well, first New Jersey, and Virginia happened. Then Scott Brown was elected in Massachusetts, and now is time for me to do exactly what I said I would. I told you so!



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you curse at everyone, in front of everyone... nice job bringing up the past too. I'm above and beyond your pettiness... if that piece of crap, you are defending is such a standup guy, then you should join him and leave RocksOff... You're vile tone is all you have here... Cred... haha, that's funny... it's not what you've done, it's what you're doing... and what you're doing is not very rock n' roll... there's no right or wrong or facts needed, it's truth... Go yelling you're bullshit dead idealogy and beleifs at a copy of exile on main st... that would be kinda rock n' roll...
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indeed...those who use 'pussy' or 'cunt' as a put-down clearly never see any....
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Obama averted a Depression ??????????????????
The jobs are still being lost ... 14,000,000 unemplyed ...
no telling how many of the Underclass have stopped looking ...
the Obama Era is not a depression only if you have a job ...
try finding one when you get out sourced ... it's 8 to 1 on every opening ...
Obama is a lying & cheating politican ... who works best behind closed doors ...

was this the change the US voted for??? Hell No ... when the burden of the
National Debt is killing this Nation ... Our Idiot thinks he can spend us out of it??

How in Hell did he get elected? One Hell of a fraud is how !!!




Yes, we averted a depression. How do you think America got to this state? Dems?

I agree, the job losses are terrible. Most of our manufacturing is now overseas. I don't have the answer, but I support
the idea of printing money to stop the bleeding. Hate to think of families living out of their car, but it's happening.

I don't believe Mr "Fundamentals of our economy are fine" would be in a different situation now, had he been elected.

Fraud was the 2000 election, and a very questionable 2004 as well.

Just gotta hang in there and help others as much as possible.
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Reply #8609 - Feb 3rd, 2010 at 4:19pm
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ENOUGH OF THIS PISSING CONTEST ALREADY!!! WHAT THE FUCK ARE ANY OF YOU GAINING?  Oh no! not you again

NO ONE HAS CHANGED THEIR MIND.
NO ONE IS GOING TO CHANGE THEIR MIND.

I KNOW. HOW ABOUT TAKING A COLLECTIVE BREATH AND CHANNELING SOME OF THIS HOT AIR TO A GOOD CAUSE.
IT CAN BE FOUND IN THIS THREAD:

http://rocksoff.org/messageboard/YaBB.pl?num=1264287833/0

LET'S SUPPORT A FELLOW RO'ER WHO DETESTS THIS POLITICAL BICKERING. CAN YA DO IT???

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[/quote]
I'm still unhappy about Riffy running off moonie... [/quote]

Fear not, Some Guy.  The man has not yet been born that could run the mighty moonie off.  No...that fine gentleman is just busy elsewhere.


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I'm still unhappy about Riffy running off moonie... [/quote]

Fear not, Some Guy.  The man has not yet been born that could run the mighty moonie off.  No...that fine gentlemen is just busy elsewhere.


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you curse at everyone, in front of everyone... nice job bringing up the past too. I'm above and beyond your pettiness... if that piece of crap, you are defending is such a standup guy, then you should join him and leave RocksOff... You're vile tone is all you have here... Cred... haha, that's funny... it's not what you've done, it's what you're doing... and what you're doing is not very rock n' roll... there's no right or wrong or facts needed, it's truth... Go yelling you're bullshit dead idealogy and beleifs at a copy of exile on main st... that would be kinda rock n' roll...




No Pdog you've got it wrong. I'm not defending Blue. He is strong enough to do that on his own I would wager. I'm just pointing out your blatant hypocrisy. You accuse me of having no "rock and roll credibility", whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. Yet you did the most un-rock and roll thing in this history of this board as far as I'm concerned. I'm not being petty. I'm just responding to your attack by offering up a different view of what constitutes "rock and roll credibility". So please spare me the lecture. Glass houses, and all that. I shan't mention that episode again, and I hope that the nastiness can be toned down as well. I'll work at it on my end, but I'll grant JC no quarter because he deserves none.



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Pdog wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 4:02pm:
[quote author=Riffhard link=1223104028/8600#8604 date=1265232992]
you curse at everyone, in front of everyone... nice job bringing up the past too. I'm above and beyond your pettiness... if that piece of crap, you are defending is such a standup guy, then you should join him and leave RocksOff... You're vile tone is all you have here... Cred... haha, that's funny... it's not what you've done, it's what you're doing... and what you're doing is not very rock n' roll... there's no right or wrong or facts needed, it's truth... Go yelling you're bullshit dead idealogy and beleifs at a copy of exile on main st... that would be kinda rock n' roll...




No Pdog you've got it wrong. I'm not defending Blue. He is strong enough to do that on his own I would wager. I'm just pointing out your blatant hypocrisy. You accuse me of having no "rock and roll credibility", whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. Yet you did the most un-rock and roll thing in this history of this board as far as I'm concerned. I'm not being petty. I'm just responding to your attack by offering up a different view of what constitutes "rock and roll credibility". So please spare me the lecture. Glass houses, and all that. I shan't mention that episode again, and I hope that the nastiness can be toned down as well. I'll work at it on my end, but I'll grant JC no quarter because he deserves none.



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Really dude... Mods have asked this to be dropped, and you bring it up and i bit. I never said, you have no rock n' roll credibility... This is what i wrote...
"Nothing Riffy stands for is very rock n' roll... It's the polar opposite... and the abusive language too... I liked the tone much better when you were gone.
Everyone is wrong sometimes... a man who never admits his wrongs and tells everyone else they are wrong, is a sad person, without joy. I can hear you know, yelling and screaming, trying to convince us you're happy..."

READ IT... and dude, if you threaten my kids, I would call your employer... you don't like it... get offline!!! It's the internet, people are going to be fucked up, I reserve the right to be fucked up, and also reserve the right to do what I think is right for myself... As far as I can tell, I'm here and he isn't, and i don't say the vile stuff you and him say... go figure!
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Riffys a good old Atlanta boy, he ain't that bad. I bet he knew ole rod and tod norton.
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Reply #8615 - Feb 3rd, 2010 at 6:11pm
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LadyJane wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 4:19pm:
ENOUGH OF THIS PISSING CONTEST ALREADY!!! WHAT THE FUCK ARE ANY OF YOU GAINING?  Oh no! not you again

NO ONE HAS CHANGED THEIR MIND.
NO ONE IS GOING TO CHANGE THEIR MIND.

I KNOW. HOW ABOUT TAKING A COLLECTIVE BREATH AND CHANNELING SOME OF THIS HOT AIR TO A GOOD CAUSE.
IT CAN BE FOUND IN THIS THREAD:

http://rocksoff.org/messageboard/YaBB.pl?num=1264287833/0

LET'S SUPPORT A FELLOW RO'ER WHO DETESTS THIS POLITICAL BICKERING. CAN YA DO IT???

LJ.


LJ,
Have you watched Barack's smackdown of the House Republicans last week in Baltimore?  It's Must See TV.  It might even change your mind.
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Okay Pdog, truce. I will delete the post that you find offensive. I would ask you to do the same. My problem is with this president, and to a lesser extent JC, not you. The reasons for my outright hatred of JC is well known, so I won't go over it again. However, let be known that anyone here that thinks that that prick has any class is deluding themselves, or they are simply aligning with him for purely political ideological reasons. Anyone here that has ever met me knows me, and what I'm all about. I don't stab people in the back that I have met, and sure as fuck don't call them Nazis or "of another species" That guy is a piece of shit. Had the bastard just manned up and apologized, and admitted that he acted like a little douche bag things would be different, but he has the ball sack the size of a sand flea's so it's hard for him to man up about anything.


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Okay Pdog, truce. I will delete the post that you find offensive. I would ask you to do the same. My problem is with this president, and to a lesser extent JC, not you. The reasons for my outright hatred of JC is well known, so I won't go over it again. However, let be known that anyone here that thinks that that prick has any class is deluding themselves, or they are simply aligning with him for purely political ideological reasons. Anyone here that has ever met me knows me, and what I'm all about. I don't stab people in the back that I have met, and sure as fuck don't call them Nazis or "of another species" That guy is a piece of shit. Had the bastard just manned up and apologized, and admitted that he acted like a little douche bag things would be different, but he has the ball sack the size of a sand flea's so it's hard for him to man up about anything.


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All your anger towards him, makes it really hard for me to read your posts... there's so much anger in-between your points, it blocks your message... if any reason, I would suggest toning it down, is so me and others can actually see your points.

and I'm not offended... if anything, it's the opposite, you take some really great curse words and put-downs lose the umpf! A good curse word and put down is most effective when timed and not overplayed... and in the case of politcs, this makes more sense, b/c it's hot button stuff... so it is good we notch it down... no truce needed... I know where we stand, and if  I didn't care, i would ignore you, so obviously there's something worth preserving.
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Reply #8621 - Feb 3rd, 2010 at 9:43pm
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Would certain people actually speak to others in person the way they speak to people via the Internet?

And who is threatening someones children? The FBI and INTERPOL might be interested in that...

Why does every music message board need one of these threads or forums?
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Reply #8622 - Feb 3rd, 2010 at 10:24pm
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This shit is getting nasty....too bad it seems to be based on a romantic weekend gone wrong.
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Reply #8623 - Feb 3rd, 2010 at 11:52pm
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Blank Frigging Staresweetcharmedlife wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 9:14pm:
Gettin Fugly in here. Maybe it's time for this thread to go  So long sucker So long sucker

This thread is Too Big to Fail.
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Reply #8624 - Feb 4th, 2010 at 6:43am
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Brainbell Jangler wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 6:11pm:
LadyJane wrote on Feb 3rd, 2010 at 4:19pm:
ENOUGH OF THIS PISSING CONTEST ALREADY!!! WHAT THE FUCK ARE ANY OF YOU GAINING?  Oh no! not you again

NO ONE HAS CHANGED THEIR MIND.
NO ONE IS GOING TO CHANGE THEIR MIND.

I KNOW. HOW ABOUT TAKING A COLLECTIVE BREATH AND CHANNELING SOME OF THIS HOT AIR TO A GOOD CAUSE.
IT CAN BE FOUND IN THIS THREAD:

http://rocksoff.org/messageboard/YaBB.pl?num=1264287833/0

LET'S SUPPORT A FELLOW RO'ER WHO DETESTS THIS POLITICAL BICKERING. CAN YA DO IT???

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LJ,
Have you watched Barack's smackdown of the House Republicans last week in Baltimore?  It's Must See TV.  It might even change your mind.
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I saw it, but I missed his visti to the Dems, I hope he smacked them around too... He's doing stuff not done in a long time, and people don't like that shit... oh they'll praise when he's dead, and call him a great man... all great men are despised by many in their time alive.... let's not fool ourselves... somehow we think there's some mystique to it, like with rock stars... not fun to be around when they are doing their lives work and being ambitoius... tpiises people off... then it's a movie of the wekk, we get all sentimental, wish we had known them and done something to help... it's easy to do nothing and criticize... off the soapbox...
I know there's a few humble folks here who do alot... god bless you for your service.
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