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naked pictures of Reagan    
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Hoffa's body    
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DVDs of "saved by the bell", season 3    
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JC's boss's phone number    
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bucket of chicken    
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three sticks of "secret" deoderant, labels facing out    
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"Eagles Greatest Hits" CD    
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Reply #8150 - Nov 25th, 2009 at 11:35am
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Pdog wrote on Nov 25th, 2009 at 9:37am:
Nellcote wrote on Nov 25th, 2009 at 7:42am:
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Nellcote wrote on Nov 24th, 2009 at 9:04pm:
But it's HIS iceberg now.  As Bob Dylan sang in Hurricane "just like the time before & time before that, it's just the way things go.  "  Just like when Carter left us in a mess in Iran, Reagan bailed his ass out.   It's not like he (Obama ) just discovered this, which is how he's acting.  Always ready to blame the past.  Well, he needs to put on the big boy pants & do something.  Another week to bring forward a decision on Afghanistan, what a loser.  I'd probably be arrested by now if I had a son or daughter there while he ignores & scolds the very Generals who provided him the recommendations he sent them there to report on.  All the while, the Taliban is saying "Look at the infidel Americans-they can't make a decision.  We are the answer"  They are recruiting in droves.  If he does not want to support this action, then get the hell out now.  How stupid he's going to look next week when he approves the 34K in troops, which he could've done months ago.  He's going to come out with some mamby-pamby excuse to make him look good.  Throw in another "photo op" with troops, he'll act like a hero.  All the while why brave men & women have died since he was told in August troops were needed.  What a fool he is.  

For all his "hope & change", he's living in a fantasy land.  Convene the same crowd in Grant Park that was there a year ago, and they won't be praising him now.  His whining about the past is boring & using up valuable time.   Our valuable time.  

He needs an intervention or there will be trouble he has not ever dreamed of.  

Our country has become the blame someone else Mecca.  People need to take responsibility & move on.  I see kids acting like this.  I tell them "stop your crying, it's your own fault-man up to it"  They go crying to their mommies because they are taught to blame everything on others.  What a country of self absorbed, blame everyone else putzes we've become.  Our forefathers would be ashamed.



you mean paying them off and selling drugs and all the people killed in south america... and don't you think me and millions like me, find it disgusting the media mouthpiece called fox news celebrates people like ollie nrth as heros, when in fact, he and reagan were criminals only seeking to gain power... carter may have been many things weak b/c he beleived in the good of people, but he was also obeying our laws!!! something easily dismissed when it is Reagan or Bush!!! if you commit crimes in the name of country and patriotism, you're still a criminal. This was cleared up in Nuremberg after WWII.


No, that's not what I mean, no fantasy was mentioned in my correlation, just the fact that Carter could not handle a mission such as this & left it to others.  Nice try.  Ramble on~blame on.  Staying on topic is a virtue.  Remember Icebergs?  Another military person from my state died yesterday on Obama's watch. He was told in August 40K in troops needed to be there then, now he's going to send 34K ne4xt week.  over 90 days later.  Blood on his hands-no one else.  He ran for POTUS-he knew this was not a job for the weak, yet he's partying & traveling like a drunken sailor.   He's wet behind the ears.

Speaking of Nuremberg, how come Eric Holder does not follow the same principal as was used in Nuremberg & let the Military trial go thru?  Because he has represented the terrorists & wants to make a spectacle out of this.  These people murdered thousands & he wants to bring them here?  They have no rights, were captured out of country & represent a faction who wants us dead.  Another lightweight appointment by Obama who wants to show the country it's all about him, while he needlessly puts families of the murdered people of 9/11 thru yet another horror.    



nazis captured out of country were returned to the country of germany, were most crimes were commited, conspired and took place...
back to Carter, seems you forget that right before he was president and long terrible unnnecessary war had taken place and the most corrput president ever had left in shame, to say the least... really easy to speak ill of Carter, despite that he did more for mid-east peace than any sitting american president ever has... did you forget that, remember when Israel and Egypt were at war? Peace is forgotten and he gets stuck wit Iran, a US policy failure dating back to the end of WWII... pfft! you seem ot miss a bit of historical context, but that's ok, you're good at being mad and blaming... you do not nee correct info to do that... the  less info the better actually.

It's all about now dawg.  Harping towards the past does not get Obama off the hook. Get back to me when you can face today's issues with credible answers.  Better yet, in your defense of Holder, go to a Cantor Fitzgerald family support meeting to ask what they think of the trials being held in NYC.  You & Holder would have your head handed to you.
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of course those who support the ones who just fucked it up royally don't wish to discuss the past....howe myopic and howe typical....those who fail to learn from the past will be doomed to repeat it.....
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Reply #8152 - Nov 25th, 2009 at 12:37pm
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lotsajizz wrote on Nov 25th, 2009 at 11:58am:
of course those who support the ones who just fucked it up royally don't wish to discuss the past....howe myopic and howe typical....those who fail to learn from the past will be doomed to repeat it.....

Which is to say your definition of history is correct.  I'm not finding any public school books in high school making determinations of the past 8 years at this time.  Split along party lines does not make it right. 

The present says Obama's decision next week will be the same if he made it when his on the ground people said to make it over three months ago.  Is this hope & change or the inability to make decisions?
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Reply #8153 - Nov 25th, 2009 at 2:31pm
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Nellcote wrote on Nov 25th, 2009 at 11:35am:
Pdog wrote on Nov 25th, 2009 at 9:37am:
Nellcote wrote on Nov 25th, 2009 at 7:42am:
Pdog wrote on Nov 25th, 2009 at 6:27am:
Nellcote wrote on Nov 24th, 2009 at 9:04pm:
But it's HIS iceberg now.  As Bob Dylan sang in Hurricane "just like the time before & time before that, it's just the way things go.  "  Just like when Carter left us in a mess in Iran, Reagan bailed his ass out.   It's not like he (Obama ) just discovered this, which is how he's acting.  Always ready to blame the past.  Well, he needs to put on the big boy pants & do something.  Another week to bring forward a decision on Afghanistan, what a loser.  I'd probably be arrested by now if I had a son or daughter there while he ignores & scolds the very Generals who provided him the recommendations he sent them there to report on.  All the while, the Taliban is saying "Look at the infidel Americans-they can't make a decision.  We are the answer"  They are recruiting in droves.  If he does not want to support this action, then get the hell out now.  How stupid he's going to look next week when he approves the 34K in troops, which he could've done months ago.  He's going to come out with some mamby-pamby excuse to make him look good.  Throw in another "photo op" with troops, he'll act like a hero.  All the while why brave men & women have died since he was told in August troops were needed.  What a fool he is.  

For all his "hope & change", he's living in a fantasy land.  Convene the same crowd in Grant Park that was there a year ago, and they won't be praising him now.  His whining about the past is boring & using up valuable time.   Our valuable time.  

He needs an intervention or there will be trouble he has not ever dreamed of.  

Our country has become the blame someone else Mecca.  People need to take responsibility & move on.  I see kids acting like this.  I tell them "stop your crying, it's your own fault-man up to it"  They go crying to their mommies because they are taught to blame everything on others.  What a country of self absorbed, blame everyone else putzes we've become.  Our forefathers would be ashamed.



you mean paying them off and selling drugs and all the people killed in south america... and don't you think me and millions like me, find it disgusting the media mouthpiece called fox news celebrates people like ollie nrth as heros, when in fact, he and reagan were criminals only seeking to gain power... carter may have been many things weak b/c he beleived in the good of people, but he was also obeying our laws!!! something easily dismissed when it is Reagan or Bush!!! if you commit crimes in the name of country and patriotism, you're still a criminal. This was cleared up in Nuremberg after WWII.


No, that's not what I mean, no fantasy was mentioned in my correlation, just the fact that Carter could not handle a mission such as this & left it to others.  Nice try.  Ramble on~blame on.  Staying on topic is a virtue.  Remember Icebergs?  Another military person from my state died yesterday on Obama's watch. He was told in August 40K in troops needed to be there then, now he's going to send 34K ne4xt week.  over 90 days later.  Blood on his hands-no one else.  He ran for POTUS-he knew this was not a job for the weak, yet he's partying & traveling like a drunken sailor.   He's wet behind the ears.

Speaking of Nuremberg, how come Eric Holder does not follow the same principal as was used in Nuremberg & let the Military trial go thru?  Because he has represented the terrorists & wants to make a spectacle out of this.  These people murdered thousands & he wants to bring them here?  They have no rights, were captured out of country & represent a faction who wants us dead.  Another lightweight appointment by Obama who wants to show the country it's all about him, while he needlessly puts families of the murdered people of 9/11 thru yet another horror.    



nazis captured out of country were returned to the country of germany, were most crimes were commited, conspired and took place...
back to Carter, seems you forget that right before he was president and long terrible unnnecessary war had taken place and the most corrput president ever had left in shame, to say the least... really easy to speak ill of Carter, despite that he did more for mid-east peace than any sitting american president ever has... did you forget that, remember when Israel and Egypt were at war? Peace is forgotten and he gets stuck wit Iran, a US policy failure dating back to the end of WWII... pfft! you seem ot miss a bit of historical context, but that's ok, you're good at being mad and blaming... you do not nee correct info to do that... the  less info the better actually.

It's all about now dawg.  Harping towards the past does not get Obama off the hook. Get back to me when you can face today's issues with credible answers.  Better yet, in your defense of Holder, go to a Cantor Fitzgerald family support meeting to ask what they think of the trials being held in NYC.  You & Holder would have your head handed to you.  



you change the rules of engagement to suit your needs, huh? you specifically said, when bush was president, that all he was doing would make a difference later, and we would see.... well... how are the two wars working out? How well did his economic, climate, education policies ect... work out? you've been blaming shit on Obama even before the election was over, and since day one... where's your patience now? you called the man a failure an 1/8 inot his term. Yet you never once thought to see that the worst attack ever, that had incredible warning happened b/c Bush was on vacation, ignoring his job and failing miserably... but let's not let historical facts get in the way... would we even be in two wars if he did his job? probably not!!! Like I said, Carter proved mid-east peace policy, is possible, if you do the hard work... you decide to call him a failure b/c Reagans criminal activity got hostage released? How did iran turnout as a result of that? that's what i thought!!!
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Can any of you Left Wing Wackos explain why it is OK to escalate the war in Afghanistan while at the same time providing a propoganda platform in NY and prosecuting the SEALs that busted the lip of a notorious terrorist?


Back to the economy:

Obama: Too many fear end of American dream
President, GOP single out U.S. service members in Thanksgiving messages
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WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama and a top House Republican acknowledged in holiday messages Thursday the economic struggles facing Americans this Thanksgiving but offered starkly different recipes for relief.

Obama and Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind., singled out U.S. service members at home and abroad for special thanks before saying what they think should be done to fix the economy.

"As much as we all have to be thankful for, we also know that this year millions of Americans are facing very difficult economic times," Obama said in his weekly radio and Internet address. "Many have lost jobs in this recession — the worst in generations. Many more are struggling to afford health care premiums and house payments, let alone to save for an education or retirement. Too many are wondering if the dream of a middle-class life — that American dream — is slipping away."

Obama said his administration has acted by cutting taxes for nearly all working men and women and for small businesses and by extending unemployment benefits and health coverage for millions out of work. He trumpeted other administration initiatives, including the health care overhaul, before saying more needs to be done, particularly for those without jobs.

Obama said he will meet next week with business owners, labor leaders and nonprofit officials to talk about additional efforts to spur job creation.

"It is my fervent hope — and my heartfelt expectation — that next Thanksgiving we will be able to celebrate the fact that many of those who have lost their jobs are back at work and that as a nation we will have come through these difficult storms stronger and wiser and grateful to have reached a brighter day," he said.

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Pence, the chairman of the House Republican Conference, said in the GOP's weekly address that Obama had promised that the $787 billion economic stimulus package would keep unemployment, now at 10.2 percent, below 8 percent. Yet, Pence said, the administration insists the stimulus plan is working.

"In the city and on the farm, as millions of American families struggle to balance their checkbooks this holiday season, they watch in astonishment as Washington spends billions of dollars it doesn't have," he said.


"And what is the White House's answer to our struggles? Another meeting next week. A 'jobs summit,' and most likely another proposal to grow government, raise taxes and place more debt on the shoulders of our children and grandchildren."

Pence said Obama and the Democratic Congress have taken the economy "from bad to worse with their failed economic agenda and big government plans" and now want the government to take over the nation's health care system.

"The way to stimulate this economy and help working families is to let Americans keep more of their hard-earned money, not taking more from their wallets," he said. "Republicans have proposals to get our economy moving again, to achieve energy independence and lower the cost of health care."

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Reply #8156 - Nov 28th, 2009 at 7:30am
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Jack it can't be explained, either can Bush/Cheney farming out the job of getting top AQ in Tora Bora to a bunch of drug dealing mercenaries, then ignoring it altogether to go after Saddam and Iraq... it is laughable you call people whackos too, when a few us asked these questions years ago in 2002, and were given justifacation that have been proven to be lies, misleading and yet, you seem to act like it never happened, and called us whackos then for asking... some even called me unpatriiotic and stupid. from 2002 to 2008 Bush/Cheney ignored Afghanistan and supported the wrong powers in Pakistan... You probably still think all that  money and wasted military efort was worth it in Iraq... maybe you're the whacko... Are you deluded in the belief, that in 9 months Obama made this problem?  Bush was leading since sept. of 2001... almost two full terms and the worlds strongest miltary at his hands to kill/capture AQ. And they "bowed" to drug lords and tribal armies who fight for money, no loyalty. The worlds largest producer of heroin and the worst place for women and children, and they did nothing to even destroy the taliban, let along AQ. Bravo on your patience, and being able to wait all these years to have a president in office you hate, so you can finally hold them accountable for this mess!!! I wish I could be that callous and souless when it came to the suffering of humans for all these years... how do you do it? Do you just suspend accountabilitly and reason from your mind...
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Maybe this can help you understand.  5 times the deficit in exchange 10+% unemployment.  This is before a second stimulus and more political payoffs to pass the health care mess.

Face it, Obama is f###ing clueless.

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Jumping Jack wrote on Nov 28th, 2009 at 4:50pm:
Maybe this can help you understand.  5 times the deficit in exchange 10+% unemployment.  This is before a second stimulus and more political payoffs to pass the health care mess.

Face it, Obama is f###ing clueless.

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so the solution would've been do nothing? do you know what would've happened? depression, not a few lost jobs and a little inflation... we're talking 3rd world shit... these numbers are not unlike numbers seen under other presidents of both species... this current just picked up two wars and an opposition that thinks sarah palin is a smart person... it's ok... we know it hurts losing.
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they whine and they whine....
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they don't just whine, they are passive agressive cowards posting crap in threads about dead rock stars you'd bring back and tiger woods' thread... real cowards, pulling that chicken shit crap. totally their nature to start fights and leave them to real people to fight ie: Iraq!
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Are you guys still arguing in here? I don't want any more of the guys going over to Iraq anymore to find bombs. We need them here to find bombs!

Besides nobody wants to go over there anymore. they are all spreading out all over the globe and trying to ruin free countries by infiltration.  I am sure this immigration has been pushed by extremist religions in response to the fundamentalists going all over the world to Spread the Word as they have been for years and years. (ruining other cultures to convert them to christianity) Its just a backlash.
But they use murder and fear tactics.  We must use international stealth and intelligence and spying and deadly force to wear them down.  I don't see how invading the entire country is going to stem the tide b/c they are all over the globe making a nuisance of themselves.
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Chuck Norris has called for the right wingers to overthrow Obama and form resistance cells ---  maybe they can all take shelter in glencar's basement ----  treasonous UnAmerican scum who disgrace the vision of this once great Nation


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real cowards, pulling that chicken shit crap. totally their nature to start fights and leave them to real people to fight ie: Iraq! 
   

Oh really? And when did you serve, Mr. Patriot? You think posting about war-mongering is serving your country? Where's the CHANGE man?
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real cowards, pulling that chicken shit crap. totally their nature to start fights and leave them to real people to fight ie: Iraq!  
   

Oh really? And when did you serve, Mr. Patriot? You think posting about war-mongering is serving your country? Where's the CHANGE man?



23 posts and an admiited alias and you want answers of my past life... good luck with that. In other words, you and your kind, aren't worth the time. I'll spend my time congratualting the Seattle PD on a good shot.
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"23 posts and an admiited alias and you want answers of my past life... good luck with that."

When did I "admit an alias"?  And really, I don't give a shit about you or your past. Keep sucking that teet, I'm sure your'e worthy.
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So do you think he will have his Nobel Peace Prize on his desk as he signs the letters to the dead soldiers' families from his escalation of the war?

Hypocrite!

The country is run by drug dealers and war lords.  Why are we going to arm them?  So they can kill us next year?  If they are truly a threat just nuke them or get the hell out.
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So do you think he will have his Nobel Peace Prize on his desk as he signs the letters to the dead soldiers' families from his escalation of the war?

Hypocrite!

The country is run by drug dealers and war lords.  Why are we going to arm them?  So they can kill us next year?  If they are truly a threat just nuke them or get the hell out.


I'll grant him partial credit for manning up.  Had it been in April, after his March speech, needless American soldier deaths would not have occured, he would've got more support & credit.  Now, let's see him stick to the July '11 timeframe.  As I've said in the past months, he's the POTUS, he deserves support.  He just has to place the car in drive more often than idiling at the stop light.
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Jumping Jack wrote on Dec 2nd, 2009 at 6:54am:
So do you think he will have his Nobel Peace Prize on his desk as he signs the letters to the dead soldiers' families from his escalation of the war?

Hypocrite!

The country is run by drug dealers and war lords.  Why are we going to arm them?  So they can kill us next year?  If they are truly a threat just nuke them or get the hell out.


I'll grant him partial credit for manning up.  Had it been in April, after his March speech, needless American soldier deaths would not have occured, he would've got more support & credit.  Now, let's see him stick to the July '11 timeframe.  As I've said in the past months, he's the POTUS, he deserves support.  He just has to place the car in drive more often than idiling at the stop light.


Well stated Nelly.

I support him and am SHOCKED to see so many liberal pundits throwing him under the bus (Huffington, Chris Matthews, Thomas Friedman, etc). He CAMPAIGNED on the promise to focus efforts on Afghanistan; to stop al-Qaeda and the resurgance of The Taliban. What do these people want???

I thought his speech was one of the weakest he has ever given, however, and I don't like the idea of announcing a timetable as it sends a message to the enemy that they can "wait it out".

Just my two cents.

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Jumping Jack wrote on Dec 2nd, 2009 at 6:54am:
So do you think he will have his Nobel Peace Prize on his desk as he signs the letters to the dead soldiers' families from his escalation of the war?

Hypocrite!

The country is run by drug dealers and war lords.  Why are we going to arm them?  So they can kill us next year?  If they are truly a threat just nuke them or get the hell out.



you're putting that award in the context that he wanted it, worked or petitioned for it... on that premise you know it is unfair to hold it up as if he must know earn it, when he didn't try to get it. He did however run and win the election for president, and didn't start this war. It's funny when I said that this action being taken should've been done in 2003, you and others said Iraq was more important... Afghanitan was all but ignored by Bush/Cheney and not only that, they fucked up the mission from the start. Let's blame and pressure Obama now, that makes sense.
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good speech...



It seemed a lot like a George W. Bush speech exceptin' that he pronounced nukuler wrong.
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Reply #8172 - Dec 2nd, 2009 at 5:55pm
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Jesus Christ wrote on Dec 2nd, 2009 at 1:02pm:
Some Guy wrote on Dec 2nd, 2009 at 8:27am:
good speech...



It seemed a lot like a George W. Bush speech exceptin' that he pronounced nukuler wrong.


Sarah Palin was Bush with tits. Obama is Bush with a tan.
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Reply #8173 - Dec 3rd, 2009 at 2:40pm
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What kind of tips can Tiger share that Obama hasn't already learned from Bill Clinton?

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Reply #8174 - Dec 4th, 2009 at 6:31am
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if you haven't realized yet, how horrible Ronnie Wood is, the worst guitar player ever, than you get what you deserve. He is going to ruin rock and roll and make ticket prices even higher!!! It's coming, and you can't even see it. It's going to be hard and fast, and in 2010 I will be back here to tell you how wrong and stupid you are.
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