I used to work for the publishing arm of an evangelical Christian organization. I've never been a Christian myself and it was definitely pod people time for me. I worked on material designed to brainwash 4 and 5 year olds about creationism and whatnot. Only Caucasians were allowed to be depicted in their kid literature. The people in this company walked around all day in a Jesus haze constantly reaffirming each others' beliefs. Places like India were regarded as "Heathen"countries. Why would I subject myself to such intellectually dishonest work? I was very young and the pay was fantastic. Jesus has deep pockets.

In what I hope to be my final post in this thread, I leave you with a quote of mine from another thread:

These days I sometimes read RO and feel we have lost touch with the real beauty of this Board. With no Stones Tour and little Stones news we fall into relentless bickering and sniping at each other. We should never forget the friendships that have been formed here; the fun we have had; the support we have given to each other; the kindred spirit we share. When the Stones stop touring those friendships will still be in place. They have to be!!

There is nothing more to gain here except aggravation and hypertension. You either LOVE Obama or HATE him. No middle ground. It's now a pissing contest.

Riffy, I echo SV's private comments to you. Not worth it. You know what I mean.

LJ.

Where do you fit in?


Liberal, adj.

1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.



Conservative, adj.

1. disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.

Riffhard wrote on Sep 27^th, 2009 at 3:48pm:


Actually it was the 2 Republicans that were trying to smuggle in young girls for prostitution. The criminal ACORN workers were only assisting them in their criminal business plan. I wouldn't have any reason to believe the framers are racist.

I wasn't trying to equate Christians and ACORN employee's as similar. I was turning around your topic to extract what I believed you were implying, why slam the entirety when most are good. You know, the baby / bathwater metaphor.

Didn't you just do that yourself ("properly exposed ACORN and their disgustingly corrupt practice's" ).
Do you believe this is an ACORN charter?

This is similar to how Fox News always claims "Voter Fraud". There is no evidence of voter fraud, although I did hear someone say that they saw Donald Duck walking near their voting place. Who knows. Maybe it was the real Donald Duck, maybe not.
There is evidence of "voter registration fraud", but not by ACORN. ACORN is the entity that exposed these fraudulent registrations, and then Fox turned it into something else. If you didn't know this, maybe you should diversify your news sources.

Your last comment is puzzling. Do you think I may be of the opinion that what the ACORN workers did was Ok? And that maybe The Bible may help me? I've seen evidence that it doesn't help everyone in this regard, and in some cases makes things worse.

I do agree with your comment regarding my lack of compassion towards believers. I do go over the top on this issue frequently. In my real life I am much more tolerant of religion. The current Christian movement doesn't square with my Catholic education, and yes I'm aware of the negative Evangelical view of Catholicism. Now it's an Us versus Them situation. Them being the ones that continually reach the same spiritual plane while worshiping their "false God". I hope that explains my skepticism . . .
I really don't hate the Christians. I approach hate towards their leaders like Hobson, Robertson, Falwell, etc . . .

Riffhard wrote on Sep 27^th, 2009 at 12:23pm:



about this christian slamming. My gripe is with all religions who say they have the only one true god... check it out, that is organized athiesm.

lotsajizz wrote on Sep 27^th, 2009 at 6:17pm:




I didn't miss shit jizzstain! ACORN is now under federal investigation in 13 seperate states for voter fraud! Oh, excuse me, voter registration fraud, as if that makes any damned difference at all! I'm sure that all of those seperate investigations are based solely on racism. I mean what other possibility is there?

Now we have two kids, and they are kids (25 and 22 years old), doing the work that the MSM used to do before The One was elected. This group, ACORN, which has long standing ties to The One, is now caught red handed trying to help smuggle kids into the country for the purposes of prostitution. Not just prostitution mind you, but underage forced sex slavery. Who do you freakish liberals go after? Why the whistle blowers of course! Oh, and we can't forget Christians. You bigots are pathetic! And you have zero excuses! It's just flat out bigotry, and jizzstain, I got that right too!

You freaks love to mention Mark Foley, Mark Sanford and the rest (hello Barney Frank!). Great! They are done politically, but go after ACORN and now you have a problem. Pathetic, the whole lot of you! You should be rejecting ACORN. You should demand that all of their taxpayer funds be severed now! Lord knows if they were a conservative group you would be out for blood. But no, they are probably really a good organization that helps the masses. We gotta ignore all that voter fraud, and sex slave crap, right? Pathetic!



Riffy

sweetcharmedlife wrote on Sep 27^th, 2009 at 7:18pm:



Not really SCL. I am very close to bagging out on this thread. I'm going to make my grand re-entrance to this thread in 2010, when I can give the big fat,"I told you so!" to everyone who is blind to the truth about Barry, and his feckless, reckless, party full of crooks. Really! However, I don't suffer fools, and this straight up bigotry is not going to go unchallenged by me.


You know one more thing that is puzzling? In my last post I mentioned three politicians. Mark Foley, Mark Sanford, and Barney Frank. Of those three which one is still embraced by his party? Of those three which one is directly responsible for halting any investigation or continued funding of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?


The double standard and hypocrisy of liberals never ceases to amaze me, but what is really stunning is that these same drone-like liberals can defend crooks like Frank with a straight face while lambasting Foley and Sanford, two guys who have been all but disowned by the Republican Party.


I suppose it shouldn't come as a shock. I mean this is same party that continues to allow Charles Rangal to chair the House, Ways, and Means committee even though he is a tax fraud. The House, Ways, and Means Committee FFS!!! LOL!




Riffy

Riffhard wrote on Sep 27^th, 2009 at 7:05pm:



It's a huge difference. To not recognize this is naive. The workers were out trying to get people to register, and thought "hey, why don't we just write down names from the telephone book and get stoned this afternoon". No malice, just laziness. Do you have another perspective?

I was stunned to see the ACORN worker(s) try to assist the Republicans with this illegal and totally immoral scheme. They should be investigated. And if guilty (and it looks like they are) they should have the penalty applied to them. Although I disagree with most of what you write, I would never assume you would support this activity from someone or some organization you support.
ACORN needs to be looked at in my view, but ACORN has done nothing wrong. You just don't like them.

Marines have been convicted of killing innocent Iraqi's. Should we stop funding the military? I mean seriously. At least admit that you don't like ACORN so you want the entire organization to fail. That you can write ACORN and sex slavery and "voter fraud" shows us you don't know the charges. You know what Rush says.

Tom Delay supported prostitution slavery and forced abortion. Marianas Islands. He should have gone to trial. They let him resign.

The anti-G20 rioters in Pittsburg were wrong. They do play the destruction angle whenever they surface. They shouldn't have destroyed the property. They have a good reason to be pissed, but the destruction was wrong. At least they know what they are mad about. The tea baggers were peaceful, but they don't know what the protest was about. They were lost sheep with 50 different causes.

"Hitler"? That's a sad commentary on the education of these people. Very sad.
"Keep Government hand off of my MediCare"? C'mon. I should care about these positions?
"Mexicans go home"? They want to eat and send money home so their families can eat.
Not saying it's right, but I understand their plight. Was that poetry?

So to sum up, NO, let's pursue voter fraud when evidence is available.
And let's lock up those that sell sex slaves or any slaves for that matter.

Did you really think anybody here was against this?

Starbuck wrote on Sep 27^th, 2009 at 8:24pm:



Too true Buckster, but the Republicans don't seem to so openly embrace their idiots the way that the Democrats do. Republicans tend to cut their losses. Democrats circle the wagons and go after the people bringing the charges. Much like the way liberals are going the two 20something year olds that exposed ACORN. I'll be waiting to hear Obama, Reid, and Pelosi call for a halt of all federal funding to that organization of crooks. Care to hold your breath with me, Bucky? LOL!



Riffy

fuman wrote on Sep 27^th, 2009 at 8:38pm:




His gay former roommate ran a gay prostitution ring out of his DC condo, which Frank was still a resident of. No charges filed, but let's imagine what would have happened had he been a Republican, shall we? Not to mention his Fannie and Freddie shenanigans. Again, had he been a Republican there would have been a congressional investigation and a forced resignation.


Riffy

Pdog wrote on Sep 27^th, 2009 at 9:23pm:




Remind me again why Democrats, and liberals in particular, loved to drag Foley's name through the mud? I made mention of Frank's gayness merely to point out, again, the obnoxious double standard and hypocrisy of the left.



Riffy

the defense of idiots like riffy only call into question whether his defenders share his hatred, bigotry, and ignorance.....

leonid wrote on Sep 28^th, 2009 at 3:53am:




LOL! Nice way to misrepresent this entire thread you silly little man child. Obama sucks. He always has sucked. He always will suck. Anyone that used any due diligence would have known that this guy was a radical far left Marxist. But I guess the cult of personality was too hard for some to resist. I have zero doubt that I knew, and continue to know, more about who Barack Obama really is than 99.999% of those that were foolish enough to vote for him. He was the only logical choice between himself and McCain?!?!?! ROTFLMMFAO!! Michael Vick was a more obvious choice for people that knew who the fuck this asshole was!! LOL!

Me playing the victim?!?! Again, I gotta laugh at your idiotic bias. Look pal, I'm not the one here that is being a bigot towards those who follow the Christian faith. You might want to look at the vile shit that some here have spewed about those of us who do practice our faith. Victim?! My ass! I just haven't a problem standing up to bigots! That you won't be honest about what some here are perpetrating is disgusting.

I may well call you, and those like you, libs, leftists, or whatever else that comes to mind. But the fact remains, you were stupid enough to vote for the most radical president in this nation's history. His election can be laid directly at the feet of those who were so foolish that they didn't know what they were voting for when they punched that ticket. Well he is now trying to fundamentally change the very fabric of the country, and millions of people are rightfully pissed and scared about it. I knew that he would do what he is now doing. In fact I've got 300 pages here to prove it. You, on the other, are still trying to defend the worst president in US history.


With this post I am done on this thread. I will be back though. In 2010 I am going to come back to this thread and I'm going to relish in the midterm Republican wins. I am going to laugh heartily at all those that supported this man for president. Watching Barry become a lame duck in only three years of his disastrous presidency will be a lot of fun, but what will really be fun is watching this clown get his leftist ass booted out of office in 2012, and to have his horrible legacy forever shadow the rest of his life.

If I have offended anyone on this thread, so be it. I have been offended by many of you as well. However, I have never been one to hold a grudge, and should any of us meet up for a Stones' show I will be more than happy to forgive and forget if you would be too. This is politics. It gets ugly. The old adage is true. Friends should never discuss politics or religion. We chose to ignore that age old wisdom. Having done so I would like to think that many of us can remain friends anyway. To a very small select group of posters that have gone out of their way to be nasty for nasty's sake. You can kiss my ass for eternity. To the rest of you, I hope that one day we can laugh about this thread over a cold pint.


See you in 2010! Or on another thread! LOL!




Riffy-out