Riffhard wrote on Sep 16
th, 2009 at 1:24pm:
Pdog wrote on Sep 16
th, 2009 at 6:41am:
Riffhard wrote on Sep 15
th, 2009 at 10:18pm:
What I find so incredibly disgusting here is implication by you guys, and the liberal media, that the only reason that so many people have a problem with Obama is because of the color of his skin! That is an outrageous thing to say, however, it is an easy out and it completely and convieniently ignores the truth.
It's always easy for an Upper West Side elite like Maureen Dowd, of the disgraced and nearly bankrupt NYTs to scream raicsm. I mean afterall, Joe Wilson is from the South. It all fits right into her Northeastern liberal mindset. Her slanderous article doesn't offer any kind of proof for her malicious claim. Just the implication of racism is enough for her, and her readers. She just plays the card that she was dealt by an angry Southern white senator. We all know what card that was. It's easy to make the claim, but there is not one scintilla of evidence to suggest that Wilson is a racist at all. He has no history of racism in his past. None. The implication alone will do for Dowd though. She knows that her readers will make the only obvious conclusion, and smuggly nod their heads in agreement at her spot on assesment of Wilson's
redneck racist inner voice over their lattes. No proof mind you. Just a liberal
hunch.
I guess it would only be fair for me to ask of Maureen Dowd why did she so vehemently oppose Clarence Thomas for the Supreme Court? I think it's because she hates successful black men that don't tow the liberal line. In fact I think that she considers them Uncle Toms. I have no proof that Dowd is a cross burning racist intent on "keeping the man down", but I think her objection of Thomas is proof enough. Don't you?
Here, read an article from a newspaper that still has plenty of subscribers and makes money. This guy destroys the rupugnant Maureen Dowd.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100009567/maureen-dowds-disgust...It boggles my mind that liberals are being so dismissive of the tens of millions of Americans who are getting more politicallly invloved because of Obama's
policies. People are rallying because of the blatant attempt by Obama and the Democrats in congress to remake our nation into one that our grandparents would never recognize. The spending is insane! We are robbing our children and grandchildren blind and none of you want to address that insanity. It's easy to just ridicule the voices of dissent when they are not coming from the liberal "group think" bubble. If you folks want to continue to believe the race of the president is the driving force of this political counter revolution than have at it. But you're being very delusional.
If you think that all of these people are a bunch of racists than you are in for a very big surprise come the mid terms.
Riffy
So does this mean you're not going to stop calling me unporovked names, or reply to my post about how you made huge claims that were false, especially since you just demanded I do so, in order to get an apology... Which btw , don't want or need and I'm asking rhetorically, b/c you're still going to be the racist, homophobic yelling jerk you've always been. The same troll who thinks they know it all, treats everyone who diagrees like a piece of dirt and pretends they get hurt feelings from one comment, while making hundreds of nasty direct and indirect put dwns using curses and insults. Your authoritarian style and your neo-con hateful ways are dying, maybe they will come back, maybe they will still have so fight, but you in particular, are seeing yourself, how people here don't want it... You're pretty much the only left, and the only one still being a dick. Where;s Maxy, Fiji, Glancar, Telecaster? All of the did the same mean hurtful I'm better than crap too. For the most part, all good guys too, but this political hate crap is why they aren't here, and it's the only thing you come back for... It's your main thing... go post Stones on a political board... Do I look bad when you call me names? No! you do, you look bad! In reall life too. You do need to know, you're a way nicer guy than Tele or Glancar, and Maxy is one of the funniest nicest guys I met online.... think about what I have written the past few days, hopefully you hear it and don't react with your vile crap one more time.
You want an olive branch? Fine. I extend my hand in friendship. I apologize for making you feel that I was no longer your friend, and acting dickish towards you. I have met you. I have had one very ass kicking weekend with you, and other ROers (including Feej, I might add). So in that respect I am sorry that a political thread has driven such a huge wedge between us, and between all Stones fans on this site. We would certainly get along great if we met up again. JC being the lone exception, mind you.
However, in the last two pages of this thread you have called me a
cheat, and in the above post you claim that I am a "racist homophobic jerk", would like to withdraw those assertions? Or would you like to just explain your rational behind making such mean spirited, and downright false claims?
As I pointed out on the first post of this page. The claim of racism is an easy out. It immediately puts the accused on the defensive. In that respect liberals, like Maureen Dowd, love to throw it out there. It distracts from the argument, and it has people pointing at nonsense proof of said racism. Funman's assertion that Wilson tried to protect the former sate flag of South Carolina, for example. That's a crap argument that anyone from the South can attest to. Wilson's support of the "Confederate" flag had nothing whatsoever to do with race! It's a cultural thing that non-Southerners will never understand I guess. Gee, see how the accusation of racism distracts!
You say I'm a racist. Yet there is no evidence that I am, and, btw, I am far, far, far from a racist! You make the claim that I am a homophobe, but again, there is zero evidence of that accusation. It too is totally false. You say I'm a jerk. Guilty as charged, but only sometimes. I would point out that I am but one person here being forced to defend myself against a whole slew of backslapping liberals that never even consider any kind of civil discourse. What I'm saying here is that the assholes are on both sides of this argument, and you only see me as an asshole because we are on opposite sides of the debate. Take a look at some of 2000monkey's posts. How about Jizzy's? Can't forget leonid's either. Perhaps BJ's blatantly smug elitest posts are another example of jerk-like behaviour? Don't even get me started abiout JC/Flea! Yet, to you, I am the jerk! The fact that you find common political ground with the others certainly wouldn't color your perspective, would it?
This will probably get right under funman's skin, but I'm going to post it anyway.
Matthew 7: 1-5
Jesus said to his disciples: "Stop judging, that you may not be judged. For as you judge, so will you be judged, and the measure with which you measure will be measured out to you. Why do you notice the splinter in your brother's eye, but do not perceive the wooden beam in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me remove that splinter from your eye,' while the wooden beam is in your eye? You hypocrite, remove the wooden beam from your eye first; then you will see clearly to remove the splinter from your brother's eye."We could all take something from that reading, don't you think?
Riffy
Quote from Riffhard on 10/08/08 at 2:20pm:
ANYONE THAT VOTES FOR BARRACK OBAMA WHILE KNOWING ALL OF THESE THINGS IS BEYOND AN IDIOT. THEY ARE PATHETICLY STUPID!!!!
Riffy
Quote from Riffhard on 10/14/08 at 8:57am:
Anyone that votes for Barrack Obama with a full knowledge of who he really is is an asshole and is dumber than fuck!
Riffy
Quote from Riffhard on 09/02/08 at 9:17am:
Only a complete idiot would vote for Obama. I don't give two fucks who this offends!
Riffy
Quote from Riffhard on 10/14/08 at 7:54pm:
Meg you may not believe this but with me this not so much a personal attack against you, or any other Obama supporter.
Quote from Riffhard on 10/14/08 at 4:57pm:
I have always prefaced the "idiot" remark with the words "those who know the truth about Barry and still vote for him are idiots." I fully stand by that. I don't think that those peple are idiots. I know that those people are idiots.
Riffhard wrote on Oct 17
th, 2008 at 10:13am:
Quote:Good news is that every poll is showing a dramatic turn around with regards to the poll numbers. I have stated all along that McCain will win this thing. I still think that he will, but I pray for it every night all the same!
Riffy
Did you even bother to read the evidence that I gave you?! Yopu just won't be bothered with the fucking overwhelming evidence! It is flat out stunning that you are being so pigheaded aboyutthis Pdog! Fucking read! Holy shit you're stubborn! Read!
It matters not what the guy believes in, huh? He's YOUR guy guilty as sin or not. Strange.
Riffy [/quote]
I like this one, b/c I did read what you had presented, and told you this:
"Riffy... you need to get over yourself, and stop telling me I'm stupid, ignorant and misinformed, your sources of information take allegations and very vague if not totally false statements and innuendos and blow them into huge loud lies. You're are the very thing, you put down about far left radical and conspirists."
Riffhard wrote on Oct 17
th, 2008 at 11:00pm:
PartyDoll MEG wrote on Oct 17
th, 2008 at 10:32pm:
See Meg, I'm passionate about this because I do know what Barry is all about. I am not nearly as close to the "deep end" as you think btw. I have faith that the majority of Americans will see through this fraud well before the first week of November. The polls are already confirming this fact. That you, and others here haven't bothered to open your eyes to the reality of this moron is of no genuine concern to me.
Riffy
So, is this a Riffy olive branch the above post?
Riffhard wrote on Oct 20
th, 2008 at 12:32pm:
Oh yeah, and one more thing. The massive money grab hoax known as Global Warming is complete and utter bullshit too! Only uneducated boobs believe it at this point! That won't stop The Marxist One from implementing huge global warming taxes on all of us should he win!! Did you hear that he know plans on calling carbon dioxide a greenhouse gas!!! ROTFLMMFAO!!! How fucking stupid to you have to be to buy into this horseshit?!?! I will personally tell every Obama supporter I see to fuck off if he wins, because he will tax all of through the ass, and to deny that is too fucking stupid to comment on. Should he win I hope all of you Obama supporters enjoy the new United Socialist States. Thank you so much for completely turning your back on the US Constitution. Fuck capitalism! Isn't that the new cool Obamaidiot way of looking at things?
http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2008/10/20/lorne-gu...Riffy
This is Riffy Being nice!!! Really...
Follow this one....
Riffhard wrote on Oct 20
th, 2008 at 4:29pm:
[quote author=Pdog link=1223104028/425#436 date=1224536730]"I would never vote for a Republican if he had the kind of radical associations that Barrack has or if they had hard right veiws. Never! I wouldn't even consider it in fact."
And what is a far right view? When did religion and the right wing, not become extreme?
You supported a policy that denied basic human rights, to Americans, based on religous views and that their behavior is said to go against god... Basic human rights!!! That's fucking extreme, and what the big issue in 2004!!! IMO, it is obscene that we even live in a country with this ass backwards policy, not to mention it is based on extremism, fear and religoin!
You have just proven to me that you are not very schooled on the origins of this nation. Not at all. You probably believe that their is a clause in the Constitution that forbids talk of religion in the public square because of "separation of church and state." Wrong! What basic human rights are you fucking talking about anyway?!
So, I'm not schooled.... Here is Riffy telling me, I'm stupid, and then saying I said something i didn't say about people talking about religon, when I was clear in my post... we had policy based on religion (christians) denying human rights (gays). But I'm stupid and somehow I said people can't discuss religion....
I love going through the archives...
If anyone wants to take the time, just go back to the start of this thread, and see how mean Riffy is....
Maybe you should Riffy... How about you do the thing you tell me to do... Go read, look at the links I've provided, see the facts... I don't want an olive branch, you keep hitting me with it!!!
It's really funny... cause after my post about seperation of church and state, you copied all these quotes of founding fathers, discussiing the bible and how it "influenced" and "guided" their principals....
"If the citizens neglect their duty and place unprincipled men in office, the government will soon be corrupted . . . If our government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect the Divine commands, and elect bad men to make and administer the laws. [Noah Webster, The History of the United States (New Haven: Durrie and Peck, 1832), pp. 336-337, 49] "
You quoted this.... So where do you think this guy would stand on healthcare....
(remember, you posted this, not me!!!)
"where Jesus is Lord, and everything is free!"
America, land of the free or land of free stuff????
But anyway, what part of the bible is this? I ask this, because after you posted this stuff, and got called on it, you changed the topic... it's in this thread, go read it... it's all chronological too...
Here's a Riffy quote!!!
Riffhard wrote on Oct 21
st, 2008 at 11:21am:
Some of you guys are tilting at windmills here. I never once said that Barrack was a terrorist, a Stalinist (I said that his father had some Stalinist tendancies-that's true), I never said that Saul Alinsky was out to destroy the USA. Likewise I never said that Obama was out to destroy the country either.
I have made it abundantly clear over the course of this 19 page thread that Obama is a socialist. He is. He doesn't want to destroy America. He wants to totally change the class structure of the USA by implementing "spread the wealth around" socialist ideology. Saul Alinsky was not the devil, I never said he was. I said that the man was an avowed socialist with strong Marxist leanings (he was). I never called him a communist in the Soviet sense of the word. He hated free market capitalist economics. So too does Obama. That is the polar opposite of the ideas that this nation was founded on. Those facts can't be argued with. They are what they are. Facts.
If this election is all about the economy, and it certainly is, then the idea of handing the entire government over to the most spend happy Democrat run congress ever with a socialist at the helm is just too stupid to contemplate. Think the economy sucks now? Wait until Obama gets in office! The guy does not believe in drilling for oil, he doesn't believe in nuclear power, he has a very tough time with clean coal technology despite what he claims, and he wants to spread the wealth around. He also has zero foriegn policy experience, and has stated that he would sit down with the terrorists in Iran, North Korea, and the hard left Ameirca hating Hugo Chavez.
Quit trying to imply that I said the man child was a terrorist or a communist. I never said any such thing! Idiot? Yes. Absolutly.
Riffy
Let's switch up... remember when Nanky posted this article and I responded to it directly.... ????
Pdog wrote on Oct 21
st, 2008 at 1:12pm:
nankerphelge wrote on Oct 21
st, 2008 at 1:03pm:
Oh boy, the spelling police are out again!
Here's a beauty - ain't it the truth!
'Change' Can Lead to Catastrophe
Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:33 PM
By: Thomas Sowell
Telling a friend that the love of his life is a phony and dangerous is not likely to get him to change his mind. But it may cost you a friend.
It is much the same story with true believers in Barack Obama. They have made up their minds and not only don't want to be confused by the facts, they resent being told the facts.
An e-mail from a reader mentioned trying to tell his sister why he was voting against Obama but, when he tried to argue some facts, she cut him short: "You don't like him and I do!" she said. End of discussion.
When one thinks of all the men who have put their lives on the line in battle to defend and preserve this country, it is especially painful to think that there are people living in the safety and comfort of civilian life who cannot be bothered to find out the facts about candidates before voting to put the fate of this nation, and of generations yet to come, in the hands of someone chosen because they like his words or style.
Of the four people running for president and vice president on the Republican and Democratic tickets, the one we know the least about is the one leading in the polls — Barack Obama.
Some of Sen. Obama's most fervent supporters could not tell you what he has actually done on such issues as crime, education, or financial institutions like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, much less what he plans to do to stop Iran from becoming a nuclear nation supplying nuclear weapons to the international terrorist networks that it has supplied with other weapons.
The magic word "change" makes specifics unnecessary. If things are going bad, some think that what is needed is blank-check "change." But history shows any number of countries in crises worse than ours, where "change" turned problems into catastrophes.
In czarist Russia, for example, the economy was worse than ours is today and World War I was going far worse for the Russians than anything we have faced in Iraq. Moreover, Russians had nothing like the rights of Americans today. So they went for "change."
That "change" brought on a totalitarian regime that made the czars' despotism look like child's play. The communists killed more people in one year than the czars killed in more than 90 years, not counting the millions who died in a government-created famine in the 1930s.
Other despotic regimes in China, Cuba, and Iran were similarly replaced by people who promised "change" that turned out to be even worse than what went before.
Yet, many today seem to assume that if things are bad, "change" will make them better. Specifics don't interest them nearly as much as inspiring rhetoric and a confident style. But many 20th century leaders with inspiring rhetoric and great self-confidence led their followers or their countries into utter disasters.
These ranged from Jim Jones who led hundreds to their deaths in Jonestown to Hitler and Mao who led millions to their deaths.
What specifics do we know about Barack Obama's track record that might give us some clue as to what kinds of "changes" to expect if he is elected?
We know that he opposed the practice of putting violent young felons on trial as adults. We know that he was against a law forbidding physicians to kill a baby that was born alive despite an attempt to abort it.
We know that Obama opposed attempts to put stricter regulations on Fannie Mae — and that he was the second largest recipient of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae. We know that this very year his campaign sought the advice of disgraced former Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines.
Fannie Mae and Raines were at the heart of "the mess in Washington" that Barack Obama claims he is going to clean up under the banner of "change."
The public has been told very little about what this man with the wonderful rhetoric has actually done. What we know is enough to make us wonder about what we don't know. Or it ought to. For the true believers — which includes many in the media — it is just a question of whether you like him or not
Commies, mass suicides... can you come up with more fear? 8 years of Bush, and all you got is fear! Smoking weed and being a Republican makes you really paranoid!
OMG!! look what i wrote?
Nanky said!!!!
"I think you just made the man's point.
You don't like what you hear so you come after me?
You are treading dangerously close to the FPM line.
Don't push it! "
I said what???? Really!!! I never even said it was him... Did I... and this has gone on and on... His next post said i took a cheap shot at him... Did I?
Look at how much you post your attacks Riffy... have you read this far? Nanky is all hurt b/c I made a veiled comment, and you insult directly...
This is the tone you set... unless you tell me, you're going to change your tone, your aologies mean shit, you keep calling me and others names... so fuck the olive branch... see how Nanky got all pissed at me, for a really vague sarcastic comment, not unlike this bet thing??? Yet look at all the mean shit you spew!!!
Waste a time... I will know you're sorry when you decide to change the debate tone to les insulting, less name calling, less mean spirited shit... you justify b/c Flea or insert whoevers name did it first!!!
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